Sean McElwee and Sean Couevas, both stars of A & E's groundbreaking show "Born This Way", share their close and unique friendship. In this episode you will hear how they met, and funny stories that will help you get to know them. Sean McElwee owns Seanese, a t-shirt company, stars in his own YouTube show, "The Sean Show", and is a keynote speaker. Sean McElwee has Down syndrome. Sean Couevas is his best friend. He does not have a disability.
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Sean McElwee and Sean Couevas, both stars of A & E's groundbreaking show "Born This Way", share their close and unique friendship. In this episode you will hear how they met, and funny stories that will help you get to know them. Sean McElwee owns Seanese, a t-shirt company, stars in his own YouTube show, "The Sean Show", and is a keynote speaker. Sean McElwee has Down syndrome. Sean Couevas is his best friend. He does not have a disability.
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Hello, My name is Greta Harrison. Welcome to Born Fabulous Podcast Episode eight of Season two The theme of this season is Changing the world one friendship at a time. You will hear interviews with best friends. One person happens to have a disability and the other does not. This episode is the first of my interview with Sean Mackel. Wheat and his best friend, Sean Querulous. Both Shawn's are famous for being on Annie's groundbreaking show. Born This Way, Sean McElwee was one of the main stars and Sean Cuevas was featured often as his best friend. Many of Sean Cuevas is Life. Milestones include Sean Mac, Aly and her on film is part of the show. Sean McElwee owns Shaw Nees, a T shirt company. He stars in this Sean show on YouTube and is also a keynote speaker, is 25 loves his independence and loves life in a quirky and fun way that isn't that he is now known for. Sean McElwee has Down Syndrome. Sean Cuevas is the proud father of a son named Told in whose three he is also an outside sales rep and all around great guy Sean Cuevas is 36. and does not have a disability. Both Shawn's have a deep, fun and interesting friendship. This episode will give you a taste of that as well is letting you get to know them. Please enjoy the short clip of Love Is a Potion, the Lyrics or by Melissa Regio, who was the focus of episodes one through four in Season one. And the music and voice are by Rachel Fuller. Hello, We're so lucky today to speak to Sean McElwee and Sean Quay Vos in today's episode of Born Fabulous Podcast. Hi, my name is Greta Harrison, and I welcome both Shawn's, who will be referred to a Sean M. And Sean See today to the show. How are you guys are
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doing? Also don't know, Please, for having us.
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Thank you for taking the time. We really appreciate it. We wantto delve into your special friendship in your special bond, But before we do that, let's catch up on where you are because both of you are famous because of born this way. And so since the last episode of Born This Way was shown. Now this is being recorded before the Christmas special, and I'm not sure if it'll be aired right around then or after. But let's catch everybody up on what you've been up to. So let's start with Sean M. What have you been up to since you last film born this way?
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Uh um, I start heading out, like head up with my girlfriend. I can't do Girlfriend is April talk. I really left a lot and simmers a lot to me. A part of nanny. Oh, it is a grim and Facebook and YouTube.
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Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because Sean McElwee has a strong presence on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube, and we'll be talking about YouTube a little bit more. And, ah, what else have you been doing? How is, uh how's your T shirt business been doing? Sean, Mac away.
spk_1: 3:55
Oh, is good right now. Right now is crazy.
spk_0: 3:59
It's crazy. Tell us the new, exciting things that have happened.
spk_1: 4:03
Um, I got me a journey coming out as a car. Or is it like, um I like it. It's been like, um, store, Yeah, story. Yeah. And And somebody like a store. And I got a body well hit about us. I can don't Celebrities. They get there are gonna be, they'll does he make your body work.
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So okay, let's say you just talked about two things. Let's talk about the store. Let's explain once you've explained everybody your store, because it's my understanding that's been one of your dreams in my correct Yes,
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that's true.
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It could happen, right? Yes. And so tell us about your store where it iss how it works. Can you tell us where it iss?
spk_1: 5:00
Kelly says. Uh and, uh, don't market area like, uh, next for us and Dale and and the other fun of chores and Sawyer for is my stories
spk_0: 5:18
is your store. Correct me if I'm wrong, but your store is in a what's the name of the mall that it's in?
spk_1: 5:25
We get his mo Yeah,
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yeah, Logan, it looking Laguna Hills Mall For everybody who doesn't know they're in California. I'm in Virginia, the stores in Laguna Hills Mall, but it is in a place that used to be Macy's. Correct? Yeah, and they've turned it into a kind of unique concept. Were a lot of different businesses like you could be in there and you can have your merchandise, but there's one check out so you don't have to be present all the time that it's open. Is that correct?
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Yes. Get up. There's a lot of cool stuff in there. So
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how often do you get to go out to that store, Sean? And
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like, a couple of times like my dad, Like, 11 to 12 under any large stuff like that.
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So you go check on it a few times a week.
spk_1: 6:21
Yeah, but not too much, because I'm not always telling girls dog organized things I've got. I know that a lot of work, but, uh, my multi me on Christmas and it's gonna end right there.
spk_0: 6:38
Oh, so you're gonna end it after Christmas? Yeah. Okay. Well, a lot of stores do that there. They almost call them, sometimes pop up shop. So you're doing it a good time in the year. Well, now and let's go on to that. You mentioned buddy walks, right? And you're gonna see Zach from the peanut butter falcon and some other people that upcoming buddy walk? Yes. Hey, And when is that? Is that going to be in California or somewhere else in California in L. A. Okay. All the famous people, huh?
spk_1: 7:11
Yeah. Okay. You guys do now. It's gonna be video. His name, my sack. But his real name is next for me. Well, w w e. Okay, Thank you there, but yes. Yes, but are there really are no casual must deny this on. I cast my most are doing completely. Let's just say it should be quite the turnout.
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And then there's more news because correct me if I'm wrong, but there's going to be a Sean show on YouTube. Yes,
spk_1: 7:51
yes. To dust does true.
spk_0: 7:54
And that's maybe possibly in January of 2020 approximately around there. Is that true? Yes. And it could possibly have both of you. Shawn's. Is that true?
spk_1: 8:07
I'll definitely be making an appearance. I like that. Oh, I got up the outcast. I'm no YouTube. So Well, gosh is well on my friends, Uh, in addition on my YouTube. So interesting. Interesting Was you about caste,
spk_0: 8:33
Sean? Sean. See, uh, tell me this with Sean. Ems YouTube show. You're gonna be more than just an appearance, aren't you? I think you'll be a really
spk_1: 8:45
good Yeah, Quite a few appearances.
spk_0: 8:48
And like other top
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American Idol, so you'll
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be a friend of the show, right?
spk_1: 8:54
Exactly. Exactly.
spk_0: 8:55
Is that how Hollywood puts it like Is that what your title wasn't born this way?
spk_1: 9:00
Yeah, friends and friends and family is with the official Castrol or whatever. They titled it
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OK And Sean. See, let's talk about you because your life was well portrayed and documented on Born This Way, people saw everything from Sean Mackel. We trying to go after your then girlfriend, which we will talk about to your wedding. Your your shower before your wedding. You're baby shower after your wedding that was called a man shower. So you've had You mean you've had your life on TV? So let's let's hear what's happened with your life Since then,
spk_1: 9:50
Pretty much my life is ruled by a 2.5 year old menace. He's, uh, pretty much, you know, my life consists of 100% will work and being a dad, and he's very busy and very happy, funny little guy, and it's got quite the relationship with Sean. You've got a pretty cool relationship from everywhere. Sean goes on his trips and stuff. He always comes back with a present for holding, and, uh, it's pretty cool to see, but that's pretty much what I'm doing right now. It's enjoying every moment that I have with my son and working
spk_0: 10:26
well. We should bring up that your marriage was well documented, but unfortunately you're not. You're not married anymore. Uh, but but it wasn't a mistake, because you have this beautiful song and holding.
spk_1: 10:39
Exactly. And we're we have a good relation co parenting relationship. So Holden doesn't see any of negativity. We separated early enough to see where he really doesn't know any difference. He's He's a happy, funny little guy.
spk_0: 10:54
Okay, well, we're glad to glad to catch up with that. And what do you do for work, Sean? See,
spk_1: 11:00
I'm in sales. I work for an electronic components distributor. I do field sales. So I me with all the businesses and Southern Cup, Well, as many as I can really to try to sell them or products my territory Southern California.
spk_0: 11:14
And before that, you've got quite the history.
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Yes. Before I worked in electron ICS, I worked in television that was a development producer. I basically would try to come up with new show ideas, scout locations, cast them, and then you put them together in a complete package to picture the networks. So it was quite, ah, career change. But I picked an industry that was a little bit more stable for to raise a family, basically.
spk_0: 11:43
And then you were also in radio. Correct?
spk_1: 11:46
No, Before that, I worked in the music business.
spk_0: 11:48
The music business. I'm sorry. That's right. The music business. Yeah. And then before that,
spk_1: 11:54
before that, I was in the military. I was in the air for years. I've done a lot of different things. I got out of the Air Force and worked in the music business and actually started my own little independent record label. And then when the economy went south, I decided to go back to school and got a degree in film. And that's when I started working in television.
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Okay, well, I also want to tell this audience with a special young man. You are a Sean, see, because you decided to enlist after 9 11 And so it's been 18 years since you did that, and you served our country and the Air Force for six years, So I thank you for your service, and I think it's wonderful and you're quite amazing, young man. So that's that's amazing. So, Sean M and Sean see, Let's talk about how you met. When did you meet?
spk_1: 12:51
I don't know such stuff to you. It's because I really took that huge Christianity. And I know that, Justin and I don't know, sir. I'm not a knife because him it seems like, huh? Yeah. And a lot of cool things together. You never did like to go out, do coffee. All 18 holes. Stuff like that. Yeah, that like, No. And they're like Dan. Ah did so so very far. Carriage house. I just does this. Go now.
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Now we're gonna trust me. We're going to touch on that. But talking about how you met it feels like you've known him your whole life. But the truth is, you have not known in your whole life the the truth iss that you've known each other. How long, Sean? See,
spk_1: 13:43
about five years.
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But you had heard about Sean M. Correct?
spk_1: 13:48
Yes. I had some friends that worked in the after school program at Topeka Hills, and they would always talk about this kid who was fearless and, uh, was just so funny. and they would they would talk about like they would turn their heads and he would be climbing up trees and stuff. But you're going to get down. He would always have the funniest responses. And, uh, they just, uh So I heard stories about him for years, and then I was fortunate enough to meet him, and, uh, we bonded instantly. Brickell? Yeah, Every day. Oh, he time he did. He got me a burrito. The first time I hung out with them, I took him to Taco Bell and I went to the bathroom and I came back. He had ordered 20 burritos,
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20 parade of
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cheese burritos.
spk_0: 14:39
Did you cancel the order or did you take up?
spk_1: 14:42
We canceled the order. He just got, too. But then he went back and tried to order some more. After that, the first time, that is too much for him. I could handle.
spk_0: 14:58
That's funny. That's that's very, very funny. So you met five years ago and Sean M. Mentioned a program called Refuge. I'd like each of you to tell me about that program because I think that's gonna be of some interest to our audience. Sean. See, let's start with you and then I'll have Shawn M chime in and tell me what? Maybe you Miss Chauncey talked a little bit about refuge. What does it look like? What is it?
spk_1: 15:25
Yeah, refuges. A weekly like activities club. And also do a ah, like I met like a sermon. It's almost like a church service as well with them, some special needs to young adults and, ah, mix of typical people, too. It's a lot of activities. There is music, and there's a message. Every week it's It's a lot of fun. Oh, it's our champion is in a real chairs. Yeah, there's some people in wheelchairs,
spk_0: 15:53
but it's all different kinds of disabilities. And and the people who do not have disabilities are they mostly young, like you, Sean. See, you're in. You're just of audience knows you're in your mid thirties, and Sean M. Is in his mid twenties. Is it about that age range, or is it all ages?
spk_1: 16:12
There's, um, people in high school in their twenties, and there's some even ordered, that there's a couple in their thirties, and I think, uh, hat was in his early forties. He was hanging up every week. So if they're all ages, Really, which is pretty cool. I mean, there was Ah, we're good mix of people,
spk_0: 16:31
okay? And go. And you would meet weekly and correct me if I'm wrong. But you have music. Didn't you say something? Tell me
spk_1: 16:39
who's there was music. Music was a big part of it. They would have, Um you know, they would place, um, worship, music and some pop music. And everybody was welcome to come up on stage and play instruments. And, uh, Sean would always go up with his acoustic guitar and rock out for every song. And, uh, that's actually when I first noticed it because he was rocking out harder than everyone else. I was like, We'll be friends of that day.
spk_0: 17:06
You could personality from the very beginning,
spk_1: 17:08
huh? Well, yeah. Action. I try to talk to me. Kind of brushed me off the first time he he was He was already a star.
spk_0: 17:16
Oh, really? Like that. But that was even before born this way.
spk_1: 17:20
Yeah, for more this way. So he was really and he was made to be a star loan before born is Were you had the persona.
spk_0: 17:29
That's That's funny. So, Sean M What? What? What is your description of refuge?
spk_1: 17:35
Refuge? It's like, uh, like you things. Like, What's up, t Just stuff like that, huh? I don't think you were prey and it into music. And Jimmy, like, hanging out and, you know, new people and stuff like that.
spk_0: 17:56
So you pray you listen to music, you hang out. What was the first thing that you said? And
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there he's is about Jesus.
spk_0: 18:04
You learn about Jesus. Well, of course that's Yeah, that's very cool. Okay, so that's how you met. And now, five years later, you're very close. And how often do you get to see each other? And what do you do when you see each
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other? I get, like enough that afternoon because I no see him and not yet. You cast on me, have text, but not too much. Oh, uh, I don't know what's going on with him and everything because he's my buddy, because ah, no, no, no. Everything. Because he knows everything because his friend says forever. Yeah, we, uh we tried. We tried toe hang out as much as possible, but you get pretty busy, but it's usually every few week, every two or three weeks when we hang out, place each other. Yes, actually, Yeah. And just like, but both. Pretty busy.
spk_0: 19:07
Well, Shawn has Sean m has three jobs. And Sean see, you're busy, Dad, and you have your job, so we understand that. But you stay in touch via text and phone as well. Correct?
spk_1: 19:18
Yeah, I get a lot of, ah, Shaun sends videos of himself singing, and and it's ah, they're really alone. But he'll send me a video. That's, you know, 10 toe, 12 minutes long training. There have been some really long ones. Yeah, and, uh, they're great Plume. That's all I could say. Great. But they would get my better if they were shortened. Maybe like a minute tops.
spk_0: 19:52
So you're sitting. You want him to edit, Correct.
spk_1: 19:56
Yeah, he got yet. I don't know if he wants to keep it full age.
spk_0: 20:00
Well, but But you're gonna have your YouTube show, so you're gonna have to be learning about editing.
spk_1: 20:05
Yeah, I don't do that because my mom do that.
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Well, you and your mom will. I know your mom does that, but she will include you in that and trust me, the whole point is you will learn that editing is important. Yeah, but I think that's cool. That's cool that you saw on those those videos, and I think that's really me. Thank you for listening to Born Fabulous Podcasts. Eighth episode of Season two I hope you enjoyed it and want to hear more. If you would like to see this episode, it is available on YouTube and on Born fabulous podcast dot com. The friendship between both Shawn's is a joy to see as well as here. In Episode nine, both Shawn's will share more stories and talk about how their friendship makes them a family. To see more photos and videos off both Shawn's or to sign up for email list, please go to www dot born fabulous podcast dot com. Please like us on Facebook. Follow us on Instagram and Twitter and subscribe to our YouTube channel. We're also on Pinterest. I'd be honored if you would leave a review. An Apple Podcasts. Now please enjoy this clip of love is a potion, The lyrics or by Melissa Regio, who was the focus of episodes one through four in Season one. Theme music and voice are by Rachel Fuller,
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doesn't