Defense, Leadership, Legacy: Seth Brewer’s Juniata Story

This week on the Juniata Men’s Basketball Podcast, Tom Frank, Biz, and Coach Curley sit down with one of the program’s most decorated alumni — 2018 grad, four-year starter, and the only Landmark Conference Defensive Player of the Year in school history, Seth Brewer.

From helping the Eagles earn their first-ever national ranking and a regular-season title, to setting the school record for wins in a season, Seth shares the stories, lessons, and behind-the-scenes moments that made his class “The Standard.” The guys talk about leadership, accountability, and why buying in 100% is the only way to turn a season around. Plus, hear Seth’s take on the toughest opponents he faced, his “Mount Juniata” starting five, and what life looks like now as “Uncle Seth” and a high school business teacher.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

I'm Tom Frank. I'm Biz. I'm the head coach Greg Curly. And this is your Junior Adam Men's Basketball show. Welcome, listeners. I'm Tom Frank, and I'm joined each and every week by Drew Beskett, aka Biz, and your head basketball coach here at Junior Add at Greg Curly as we talk all things Junior Adamans College Basketball. It's been a little bit of time since we've all been on here. I'm feeling a little rusty. I went out and played a great though. I went out and played a little golf for the first time in a long time. You probably played better than I did. My like kind of lower neck hurts a little bit right now. You always did swing hard. I like the swing.

SPEAKER_04 0:42

I was gonna say that doesn't sound like a natural swing then.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

If you'll tell you what we're hurting there, I hit the ball far. Not always accurate, but very far. Yeah? This is true. Yeah. So what's going on? What's the latest? What's happening at Juniata?

SPEAKER_04 0:58

Well, school starts here uh, I think two and a half weeks. We just finished day camp last week. So uh we had really good camp seasons. We had a very successful team camp. Pretty much all our returners are back and in one first year guy, and then this past week we had five of our incoming guys work day camp. We had uh really good turnout, really good week of camp. Thought the guys did a good job, so we're kind of ready to go. Guys only have I was looking at it before we got on here, two weeks left in our uh summer program. Then they take a week off and then they'll be on campus. When do we do the lift? I think move in is August 23rd.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Yeah, when are we gonna do the lift competition?

SPEAKER_04 1:36

Well the mile mile test is uh on uh August 27th, based.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

I mean a mile test? Yeah, what's the time we gotta get? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:44

So uh 545 for our post players and uh 530 for our guards.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Five? As in minutes? Yeah. Not hours. Son of a bitch. All right. I'm out. So those are the coaches have to run. Yeah, do you have to run it?

SPEAKER_04 2:01

I've I've made my mile time in the past. I've always made my mileage.

SPEAKER_03 2:04

Well, you in the past, but how about in the present?

SPEAKER_04 2:07

What is your mile time? I don't have a mile time now. I think at my best, I was trying to think about it, it was either 507 or 512. I can't remember. I always did pretty well. Dude, I'm lucky if I can break 11. I don't know if I buy that. What? 507? Well, I think 507 was Mike Hauser, who's actually uh assistant coach at State College, but um he was a 6'8 uh uh post player, but he was thin. He was he could run. Yeah, so I'm talking about back my day, but I I mean I haven't run run away. Run is too hard on the joints, man.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

Yeah, I don't think you could do sub seven minutes.

SPEAKER_04 2:45

Oh, now I I don't know. I mean it's it's not honestly the mile time is not actually uh very accurate uh uh at judging or tracking um conditioning overall. It's more a kind of a mental toughness uh accountability metric that you know guys are gonna go do it. Because I mean sprint endurance in basketball is a little bit different than that. I even played with some guys that would just show up and run it. Now that's not what we're hoping these guys did, but they are in such good shape or they are nuts enough they could just go run it, pay the price afterwards, and and make their time. So it's a little bit of a mix. That that's why we just think where we sit right now we needed to do that. We thought coming out of last year, one of the things which I'm sure uh our guests could talk about is you know, a lot of our freshmen just don't understand the conditioning level, and you know, they're not big enough, strong enough, they're not where they need to be. And I thought that really hurt us a lot last year. We just weren't in enough shape.

SPEAKER_03 3:39

So what are there hills involved with this mile? Is this a flat mile? Is it a around a track? Is it yeah?

SPEAKER_04 3:46

So the the mile time is on the track, but our our conditioning days consist of hills. We do um we're big into hills, some 120s, some splits on the track. We do something we call two-mile runs, so we'll rotate those things through. And uh we've done it at different times. We've adjusted based on where we think our group is and what we needed to do, but we thought right now this needed to be a major emphasis. So now what if they make the time?

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:12

So they cut immediately? No, no. So the the 27th, uh, this is all with a strength coach, so it's legal. We can't be with them, but uh they'll run the mile on the 27th. If they make the mile, they've made it. Uh, and then they'll just continue the conditioning. As long as they hit some basics, uh uh we'll be fine. Uh then we'll test actually October 1st, which will be our first practice, and that'll be with us as coaches because we can be with them. And uh if they don't make it, then they'll keep running it uh until we think they're in shape. Uh so we'll run each basically we'll practice four days in a row because these are the eight days we're allowed out of the season. So the first we'll practice, then we'll come back and practice. Uh I think like the eighth, they'll run the mile. Then if they didn't make it, then the 15th is the first official day of practice, they'll run the mile. Then if they didn't make it, uh so it's just how many times do you want to run it? And how hard do you want to run it? And do you want to run it? You gotta make it the first time. Tell me. Those first days of practice have to the guys that have made the time, they'll be in the gym doing skill workouts, and the guys that didn't will be down on the track running. So I mean it's a pretty easy choice. And you know, some guys, it's harder than others. I mean, that's why it's not a fair measure. I mean, we have some guys that this fits, and we got to be careful. One of the reasons we we didn't do it for a number of years is, you know, we had some guys, you know, the mile times don't equate to who plays and who can win games. I mean, it's a component, but it's it's a small percentage piece, you know. Uh that we're not running track uh until guys we're also not, you know, we're we're not Andrew Biffle here in the strongman competition. Uh we got to be a better basketball team, and I think that's obviously what we have to improve at. And um and honestly, with kind of the skill world now and the work guys put in, getting them connected with the fact that the whole idea is we put it together to be a better basketball team. And these are elements of that that need to be done to be successful can be a challenge. But you know, this is just one of those metrics and an accountability metric along the way to help us get where we need to be so that we're ready to play our best and improve throughout the season. I think I think he needs to pull from the movie Miracle.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

And just again. They don't get it again, right after. Just you gotta keep running. All day if you have to.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

Yeah, I think you measure the third mile, not the first mile. That's true. That's my take on it.

SPEAKER_04 6:28

Just thought. Honestly, we we tested uh the guys tested before they went home in the spring, and uh uh uh a lot of our returners, there's a couple pretty natural guys there. So I don't I think we're on track and I don't think we'll have too many problems. As long as guys are putting the work in at the level that you need to put it in. But conditioning is a huge thing in terms of learning. A preseason practice, if you're out of shape, you're tired all the time. If you're tired, you can't learn. If you can't learn in the preseason, we're already we're beat before we even start. And so that's something we've always emphasized here. You have to be in shape to learn to be able to pay attention. Um and we have to make sure we follow the plan we have. So we're, you know, this isn't about just getting the mile. If you do it the wrong way, well, you increase chances of injury and doing things the wrong way. So we want to do it to decrease chance of industry or of injury and to maximize our ability to focus and concentrate and learn. So that that's obviously going to be really, really important for us. You know, again, I think the experience our guys have now coming in from last year, uh I think they're all on board with understanding how important this is, that the weight room has been very important for us. Conditioning level is very important for us, but it's only as good as we put it together uh in terms of playing basketball.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

That explains my grades in college. I was never in shape, so no wonder I didn't learn anything. Bes, biz. Be in shape to learn biz.

SPEAKER_04 7:40

I think a few of the behaviors were probably counterproductive to your physical conditioning.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Bez.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

But look at you now, Biz. You made it through, didn't you, buddy? Perseverance, tough, natural intelligence, season that just natural intelligence. I grew up in Lamont. Street smarts, baby.

SPEAKER_03 7:58

Street smarts. Oh yeah. Good old Lamont. All right. I think we should just get it right into our guest. Yeah, why not? All right. I got a good intro for him. Wrote this somewhat myself. I got a little help from Curly. So we got a very special guest with us today. Someone who left a serious mark on the program and continues to rep the blue and gold with pride. Please help us welcome Seth Brewer. Junior at a basketball class of 2018. Seth's a Lancaster guy. Is that how you say it? Manheim Town? Is Manheim where What's in Manheim? Why do I know Manheim? Is that where uh Spooky Nook is?

unknown 8:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

It's very close.

SPEAKER_04 8:35

It's also where Seth Brewer's from. That's probably.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

But I mean, when you go to Spooky Nook, it says Mannheim and and and Seth Brewer there. So I do I do know that place. He was a he was a four-year starter at point guard for the Eagles during his time here. The team racked up 64 wins, earned its first ever national ranking, won a regular season title, and set the school record for wins in the season with 23. Not bad. That was a great time. Not bad. Not bad. As a senior, Seth earned first team All Conference honors and was named Landmark Conference Defensive Player of the Year, the only player in Junior Adam's basketball history to bring home that award. Over his career, he put up some incredibly efficient numbers, just under 50% from the field, 38% from deep, 81% from the line, and he did it all while dishing out three assists per game and snagging at least a steal a game. Steady, smart, and competitive through and through. Since graduating, Seth started his career in the insurance world, but recently made the move into education. I think this is correct. This could have been another Seth Brewer. Um now is heading into his second year teaching accounting and marketing at Palmyra Area High School. And as of January. Palmyra. Palmyra? I never heard of it. We're gonna talk about that school. And as of January, he's a proud new uncle. So please welcome the one and only Seth Brewer.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

Welcome.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Uncle Seth.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03 9:54

That's an impressive resume right there.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

I appreciate that. You did a good job with that write-up.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

That might be one of the most impressive ones that we've had.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Really?

SPEAKER_03 10:04

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Yeah. A lot of bullet points on that one. That was good. I want to bullet points.

SPEAKER_04 10:09

It is pretty tough to top. You know, one of the ways we Seth knows it, right? I sat you down, said the way we measured success for guards in our program is how many games he wins. So it's pretty hard to walk away and say he didn't do as good a job as he could do.

SPEAKER_03 10:20

So thank you. Thank you. Yeah. All right, we got to rewind here. I want to go to the beginning. All right. Why in the world did you choose? This is always a great question. I don't mean it in a bad way. I mean in a positive way. Right. Why Junietta?

SPEAKER_01 10:39

I didn't hear of Junietta before I got recruited. And I was down to five schools. They were all Division III schools. And Junietta actually came in with the lowest offer. So it was the most affordable school. That's that's kind of really that's yeah, that's what really pushed me there. I was surprised too. It's because I'm from like the Lidditz area, so the Gibbs are family friends, and they gave me a nice little scholarship. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

Nibble with Gibbs, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Yeah, you can't hate on that.

SPEAKER_03 11:10

No, you can Can we ask what the other schools were? I'm just out of curiosity. Who did we beat out?

SPEAKER_01 11:15

It was Misericordia, Merrywood was up there. Penn State Harrisburg was probably the biggest competitor because I thought that was going to be the cheapest school. And yeah, those were really the main four. It was between Penn State Harrisburg and Junietta then. Those were the final two. Yeah. And you made it to Junietta.

SPEAKER_03 11:33

Now, where did Coach where did Coach play a role here? Did he sway you? Did he maybe him and Hager?

unknown 11:39

Hager?

SPEAKER_03 11:40

So Hager recruited you?

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Yeah, so that's when I took my visit there, Hager showed me around, and then I stayed with Jake Close and Trevor. So Trevor Clun was a Yeah, Trevor Clun. And then Dennis Fisher and Braden Becker were big parts of that visit as well. So they showed me the ropes a little bit. And when I got on campus, I loved it. I thought it was a beautiful campus. Never heard of Huntingdon, Pennsylvania before going there.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

But you weren't that far away though. I mean it wasn't that well, it's not that far. It's far enough. Two and a half PA.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Because I didn't have a reason to go to Central PA. I've always had AAU tournaments in the Philly area or down in Baltimore. So those were kind of the directions I was going mainly. But yeah, and then Curly obviously had a significant impact on me ultimately choosing to go there and playing. He just preached that, hey, we work really hard. We're going to play man-to-man defense, which I always loved, monoimano. Um, and then I would also have a chance to play right away because coming in my freshman year, there were no seniors on the team. Um so that that role, yeah, that job was up for the up for grabs basically. Wait a minute now, we gotta talk about that for a second.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

So you the year you came in, how many guys because you came in with a pretty big class, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Yeah, we had we started with almost a dozen, I think, and then it slowly just dwindled. Dwindled. As it always does. Yeah. Because people think it's oh, I can play Division III hoops, it's not gonna be that big a deal. But no, it's ultra competitive and it's a time commitment. It's like a part-time second job, basically, on top of your studies. So a lot of guys can't handle that commitment. So they they teeter out early. Why were there no seniors? That's a great question. I think it was because of the class before them. That was Shaley and Hayes and all those guys. Luke, Pat, it's the same cycle.

SPEAKER_04 13:40

He was and so it's very similar to our group that's arising sophomore group right now. I mean, his freshman year, they had uh a few more pieces with them uh and were a little bit more successful, obviously, but very similar in terms of uh we've had this open class ever since I got here. When I got here, um my second year, we had no seniors, we had an empty class when I when I came here, and it's been very hard to work out of that because you're always having to get a lot of guys to fill those gaps. And you get to those years and now you have three classes, so that fourth class, it's harder to recruit guys because there's not they don't see a lot of opportunity. If you're open and honest with guys, you say, hey, listen, like when Brewer was a senior, it was like, hey, you know, we got six guys that are playing. I I I mean, unless you're uh like uh all American when you walk on campus, which does not happen, has not happened here, it's gonna be hard to play a lot. You're gonna have to be patient, and and that's that's not what guys want to hear. I mean, if we had said that to Seth, I don't know that we're as far down um or or as far up on his list because he he knew he could play and he wanted an opportunity to play right away. So it's just kind of working through that. Um and and it's kind of stuck with us in that cycle every time. It's part of why we have to build, but it's also the opportunity because you can get a group group and a young group together and get them to play and work through it together. And that's why I think in the end you can be even better. And that's how they had the senior year they did. So where are you in that cycle right now? You said you said it they just kind of got through it. Yeah, we just got through it. That's why when we had the eight seniors to recruit to replace all those guys, we kind of had to work through that stuff, but it it sort of keeps happening. So, like if you look at our senior class this year, we only have two seniors. And so the empty class that the three last year. Well, that empty class in there is what hurts you. Um and it, you know, you want to have strong, you need to be strong through the upper class. It's not just seniors, you need juniors and seniors and to work through that. And that's how they, I mean, they were consistently good. I mean, we've had these just classes like his where there's four or five starters the whole way through, the glass, the the eight guys we did. I'm not sure I'd change it. I think it's again the high end, it's made us better, right? Because we've had so much cohesion and so much opportunity. But in in an ideal world, right, you'd want to play like two seniors, two freshmen, two sophomores, two juniors, you know, and have eight guys playing and just keep rolling them through. I don't think that's how it usually hits for us. Part of it is again, no scholarships. You can't just target the position you want or what the guy looks like or what you want at that position. So a lot of times it's it's get as many guys that fit what we're trying to do and the direction we're trying to go, be open with them about their opportunities and then let's let things fall where they may. And that's why it's kind of when like Seth said, it's often feels like a whittling away process, but that's not intentional. It's just the realities of competition and kind of scholarship, right? So if we have scholarship for an NIL school, we're bringing in eight or nine guys, that's who we're paying, and they're playing, and that's the way it is. So it's different at our level.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

So you came in as a freshman, you play right away. How many of the other guys, how many that freshman team, how many freshmen started?

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Or was it just you? No, Marcus came in with Nathan. Yeah, he started from the jump. Um that's a good one. And then me.

unknown 16:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Yeah. And I I started the first half of the year, and then we wanted to go a little bit more, I guess, experienced the second half, so I came off as like six man. I still finished every game, which I always thought was way more important than starting the game, so I didn't mind that. Totally. Um and I can't complain about playing time my freshman year. But as Curly was mentioning before you guys introduced me, I wasn't physically ready, I don't think. I was in shape and I worked really hard, but I wasn't big and strong. I probably weighed 160 pounds at 6'2, so it was tough for me to put on weight. I wish I would have hit the weight room a little bit more, then I could have played, I think, longer stretches my freshman year and really helped us more. But ultimately, I think it was a great experience for me, and I once again can't complain about the playing time I got.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

So wait, now run down your class. So it's you and Marcus.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

And Damon and Will. That's who we Damon and Will. Okay. Wow, yeah, that's who we finished with. We had some other guys that contributed a little bit when we came in as freshmen, but they all ended up either transferring out or just went away. Yeah. Just kind of fell off. That's can happen.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

Yeah. Wow, that's a good class now. 64 wins as a class. And that that's the most is that any no nobody else has done that. Carly?

SPEAKER_04 18:23

I didn't I I didn't add that up. I'm pretty sure that's up there. That's got it. I think at the time he graduated it was up there, but I I don't. Raymond's class was pretty close. We've had a couple that are close. Yeah. But it's it's gonna be top two or three, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_03 18:38

First national ranking. How many how many national rankings in the history of Geniada have we? In basketball? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:46

That was it. That's the only thing. That's it. Just down one time.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

There was no team since then that has been nationally ranked?

SPEAKER_04 18:52

No. I mean, and and honestly, I mean, that's what, six years ago, seven years ago? It's not it's relatively recent when you think about the other 110 years before that. But uh no. Um and it was short-lived, right?

SPEAKER_03 19:05

Of course we lost the next game after. Did you really? You lost the next game, and then that was it. So it was a blip. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_04 19:13

I mean, we we started that season, we won 12 straight games. Uh that's a cool record. Uh matter of fact, we did not we did not trail in a half, in a half for 12 straight games. So we we led we won every half for uh 12 straight games, which is that that's tells you how good that team was. We should have been ranked earlier. We should have been ranked longer. I think the way we finished the season and the way we handled the league says where we were. But again, if you haven't ever been ranked, do you get ranked, right? So it's very, very hard to break through in those situations. I think we've had a couple other teams that were playing at that level as well uh that probably warranted that kind of uh consideration. But those are the things you kind of fight when you're at a place like this. I think it says even more that they accomplished that um and then finish the season. I mean, the biggest thing that year is we won the the one and only regular season championship in the history of the school, which we can talk about conference playoffs and championships. I'm sure we will. Those are one thing, the two-game shot, but doing that winning a regular season is by far the hardest thing to do.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

See, that's why I think that should be the criteria to get it.

SPEAKER_03 20:18

Yeah, I'm still all about the tournament. You get the position and you get in with the regular season, and then you gotta make it happen.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Yeah, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 20:29

The conference championship that year, then.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

That was our only home loss that year. That was heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

In the championship game.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

In the championship game.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Only home loss.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 20:40

That's right. We led probably the majority of that game. We led probably until about five minutes left. One of the major factors in that, in that, and and I think our next guest we're gonna have on the next podcast, Brandon Martin as he played on that team, but he played, he had a a hand injury, I believe it was his thumb, was injured. And he when we played Moravian, he pressed and did those things all the time. When we when we played him with Brandon, Brandon was like a one-man, like if you tried to press him, he was gonna score on you every time. Every time. And he was probably I mean, he just couldn't be effective offensively. He still had a decent night, but it really, really kind of hurt us. We still had the lead, uh, and they were a good team, but uh yeah, we we came up short. They pressed and ran the entire game. Uh, we were probably one guy short there, and that was probably the injury we had. Seth's team wasn't particularly deep. We probably played like seven guys when it got late in the season. And and for that one matchup, that may not have been the best circumstance, but really only because Brandon was injured. If Brandon's healthy, we're fine. But you know, that's why you need depth, and that's that's all the things that happened. That it sounds like an excuse, but it's it's what happened, and and they're they're really good. I mean Moravian's really good. What was the final score?

SPEAKER_03 21:51

You I mean, I'm sure you guys remember. Was it a close? Did it come down to a bucket, or does it did they pull away at the end?

SPEAKER_04 21:59

Uh no, it It came down to the last um two minutes. I mean we we honestly turned the ball over with a minute left. Um that kind of sealed the game. Uh I think that put 'em up six um because uh it was like a pick six lay it in thing. And uh I I think we had a little momentum. I think we needed to just go down and score and it's probably a different game, but uh that's what they did and we didn't handle it. So uh probably all coaching in the end.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Still what a season though. What a way to go out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:31

I will say Seth had a hell of a game that night, sort of like yeah. I mean, uh I don't know the numbers, but I know Seth it wasn't Seth's problem.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

Just only a couple more buckets down the stretch. That's what we needed.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

So looking back at it, what was the what were some of the biggest wins? Was it that year or were they from other years?

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Probably that year. One game that I didn't play particularly well in was the Randolph Macon game. And that's really what solidified us, I think, getting ranked ultimately. Played them at home, and they were a pretty good team. I think their was it was their guard ended up being player of the year? Indeed, he was a freshman.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

Yeah, their freshman guard wound up uh they won a national championship and him as point guard, and he wound up being the national player of the year.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Oh but they came into our place and we handled them pretty well. They were not expecting that. I think Brandon had a great game, so it was it was just one of those years. I mean, I can't think of the biggest wins other than I think of it in just moments of the season where we had sustainability, we were just clicking on all cylinders and kind of just dealing teams. We had our way, and it was really teams did not want to play against us because they knew it was gonna be a fight and they were gonna get beat up, screened constantly, they weren't gonna get an easy basket, someone was always gonna be in the right position to help. Those are kind of the things I remember more than just specific games that we we won, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

And you were with a talented uh you had some talented teammates. Who are the guys that really pushed you? Who are the guys that like you think you became a better player having played with?

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Obviously, Marcus, he's right up there. Will and Damon too, of course. And then just in practice, when I got to compete against Brandon and Paul Martello, that was always fun because we weren't really taking any prisoners. I mean, we battled one-on-ones. It wasn't like, okay, just take two dribbles to the right and shoot a jumper. No, we were trying to beat each other day in, day out. Which was annoying because if you got caught in any of those drills, you were just going constantly.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

But it made us better in the end.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Iron sharpens iron, Tom. So you've told us that, Dis. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

So what was uh there's a lot of young guys now, obviously, from year one to year two. What was your biggest takeaway? What was the biggest thing that you took from year one to propel you into year two to really, you know, take hold? Like, what are these guys? What what should they be looking for? What advice would you give them between one and two?

SPEAKER_01 25:15

I would say stick with and trust the process, get in the weight room, be conditioned, but then once you get on the court, work as a unit. Like just know that if you do your job right, the guy next to you also is gonna do his job right. And once you feel confident with that and you can trust your teammates, then really the sky's the limit. Then it all just works together. And it's seamless. It's not even like you're really trying anymore. It's kind of just habits are built and you're just always in the right position, always just in kind of lockstep with your teammates.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

And we'll be right back, ready to launch your podcast. Merit Studios offers comprehensive services from concept development and seamless production to strategic marketing and monetization. Let your story take the mic. Visit MeritCreative.com slash studios and let's get to work. And now back to our show. If you had to sum it all up though, like in your your your your group, because remember, we've we've kind of been naming these different groups some different things. What's your group? What are we calling them? What's my group? Oh, that's a good question. Right? This is the team that has has went the only in-season champs.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

The only ranked team.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

The only ranked team.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

I don't know. Curly, can can you help me out at all? What would we call how are you I don't I'm not the label guy who's the grade eight? No, I'm not a bearing.

SPEAKER_02 26:45

Fearsome foursome. Fearsome foursome. The OGs. The guys.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

I like that.

SPEAKER_04 26:52

I mean, they also set the school record for wins. I mean, that that's uh I mean the standard bears, right? They're the standard. Maybe they're the standard.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

The standard. I kind of like the standard. The story is standard, as one great Pittsburgh Steeler coach once said.

SPEAKER_04 27:07

The story I actually tell I tell our team this every year. I tell it about Seth and Marcus going into their senior year, and I don't know if Seth remembers this, but the year before we went to the ECACs and we went to Westminster. Remember this, Seth? And the lights went out. And uh we we were quite frankly a better team and uh did not play very well and didn't win the game. And a lot of the things that bother us ball screen defense, which is a big deal these days. Um I remember in the offseason going through every option in the world, and I remember talking, particularly to Marcus, but you know, what do you want to do? And and and these guys basically looked at me and said, Coach, we're not changing anything. What we did is fine, we have to go do it. And the level of accountability those two took for how we were gonna do things, and it was like very clear to them in the offseason we changed nothing. Like we were whatever, 14, 13, or right in there somewhere. Um, we are gonna take a step because we're gonna do what we do better. And they weren't looking for excuses, they didn't want outs, they just wanted to do better. And I always say the very first drill we did the next year in practice was ball screen coverage, and it was the best, it's the best drill I've ever been a part of. And it was Seth and Marcus. And from that every time we did those drills the entire season, the level of intensity, the level of focus, and the demand for execution was as high as I've ever been a part of as a coach. And that right there set the tone for the entire season, the entire team that there were no excuses. They didn't want bells and whistles, they didn't want like trick stuff to beat teams. Matter of fact, they were adamant about they hated any of that stuff. They didn't want they didn't want us to trick or do anything. It was like coach, uh, we're a kick. We're gonna do our thing, we're running motion man-to-man. I mean, Seth talked about it. Their group was a start. We didn't have a zone for five years, six years, and a part of it is they didn't want anything to do with it. They wanted to just go out and play and the detail and the execution, and they demanded that of each other. But when you have um, you know, a guy that can score like Marcus and brings what he does, and you got a great point guard that manages a team. I mean, one of the things that amazed to me, he was defensive player of the year in the league, and he only averaged a steal a game. That's crazy. Like guys that guards that are defensive players of the year usually average three or four steals a game. Uh, but Seth was just so dominant in terms of taking guys out of anything he wanted to take them out of. And we were the best defensive team in the league by a long shot. And he's the best defensive player, and that's how you get the the defensive player of the year. And there was nothing fancy we did, right? I mean, you anybody could tell you what we were gonna do and where we would be, but our ability to do it consistently over and over again, but that was set by the attitude of particularly Seth and Marcus, that this is the way we're gonna do it, and we're gonna set the tone from day one. And that was kind of the standard they had. And they didn't care who we played, they didn't care what the situation was, and they were always accountable to that stuff, and I've always appreciated, I still tell that story now. Hopefully, the young guys we have now are listening because we we have a long way to go in that area. Sitting here watching a lot of tape, as much tape as I ever watched this summer. There's a lot of things we do well, but we we are, like he said, always being in the right place, being in position, being there. Like we we have so far to go in that area, it's not funny. And that consistency and focus and the appreciation of detail, they both got what details meant. And that that's not what all players get. And they they were okay with that. And then inside that they had an extreme, you know, Seth and Mark, their their level of confidence in themselves is earned, number one, but they they never got into the that stuff. They didn't care, they believed themselves and they knew they were playing good players, good teams. They they knew, you know, part of it is both of them have been around really good players their whole life and um had seen it you always know like the best Division III guy then the best division one guy doesn't even think he exists. You know, you can't worry about that stuff. You but if you play, like you've seen the TBT or something like that, there's some pretty darn good players at all levels. Um and I thought that kind of like you know, soft spoken confidence and and belief. But then they understood the work you needed to put in and how you need to do it. Easiest group to coach ever, because you just had to tell them what to do and put them in it and rep and do that stuff. So that that was you know just a credit to these guys. So that was and that's still the only defensive player of the year you've ever had, right? It's the only player of the year of any kind. So offensive player of the year, conference player of the year in the history of Junietta basketball. So he's the only player of the year.

SPEAKER_03 31:25

How close was Marcus that year as offensive player of the year? Was he close or not?

SPEAKER_04 31:31

Yeah, player of the year. Well, yeah, that was Jay Howard that won. Is that right, Seth?

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

That Catholic. Um and that again goes with recognition. I think we've had that happen twice. I think Brian Cannon's senior year. Brian Cannon didn't get it his senior year. I I I forget, and I thought that was like probably name recognition a little bit. But you know, coaches vote for that, so I I can't get into that. That's that's how coaches see it. I think part of it's probably our style of play, how we do things. I've always said like our numbers, because of number, like I was just looking at stuff like total fouls for a season and stuff, and I had to realize that like we don't have as many possessions all the time, so the numbers get skewed. And if you're just looking at numbers-based things, you know, it it doesn't stand out. But if you look a little deeper and you understand how and why those things happen. Yeah, or did O'Neill Holder get it, or was it uh it was Jay Howard? Or who was it? I think it was Jay Howard. Yeah, he just put up such big numbers, but yeah, who did he play for?

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Catholic?

SPEAKER_04 32:26

Yeah, but they finished third in the league. I mean, I yeah, I I Yeah, we smoked them and at that time they played a style where they ran everything through him. Everything. And so he was average, he was like fifth in the country in scoring. Um uh, but we beat him, I think, two of the three times. And uh honestly, Marcus, particularly the playoffs here, but you know, you do the voting before the playoffs, not not after playoffs. I think it's a bit of the circumstance, but and those guys are great players. I mean, it's not taking anything away from those guys. Jay Howard was phenomenal. Why are we doing it before the playoffs?

SPEAKER_02 33:01

That's always that way, though. I mean, that's where I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 33:03

I like it. I can see it before the NCAA tournament, but not during the conference. The conference.

SPEAKER_04 33:11

Yeah, I I just think with coach, I mean, you always take the regular season.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

Talk to Katie about it.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

I think we need to uh get the media involved in this vote.

SPEAKER_03 33:19

Yeah, and I don't understand why coaches are doing it. Yeah, they should be more than coaches.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

It should be coaches are biased.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

We have media credentials. We are media. Yeah. I think we should have a brawl in this next year.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Hey, speaking of totally off the subject, but speaking of the uh TBT, didn't I see that uh a team of Division III guys beat Syracuse's uh TBT team?

SPEAKER_04 33:40

Uh they be they beat them multiple teams. They went to the uh, I think the Final Four, uh we are the Sarred Three. About that. I think the only guy I recognize on the rock, uh Christian Parker played for Mount Union. We played a few years ago. If you guys remember, we played at the Baron con in the Barron tournament. Oh yeah. And and I always ask the graduating guys who's the best player you've played or whatever. Bunch of those guys. Actually, Tyler and Mason, when I talked to them, mentioned him that they thought he was probably the best player they played for Mount Union. He was he's a legit player. Good decent. Yeah, all those guys are yeah, all those guys are overplaying. They're they're all overseas guys. And yeah, I mean, it just goes to show the level of play and how good players are for this day and age.

unknown 34:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

All right, so we got to talk a little bit about post-college.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Post-college.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

He's Uncle Seth.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

You're Uncle Seth, you're you're now a teacher.

SPEAKER_03 34:30

What are you doing? What are you teaching?

SPEAKER_01 34:32

I teach business education at Palmyra Area High School. So it's in Lebanon County. It's a small, well, I guess they were foray in sports. Relatively big. Probably graduates with like 200 a class. Uh actually, maybe even less than that, 150. But it was my first year. Uh specifically accounting and sports entertainment and marketing. Oh. Yeah, which you would think would be a fun class to teach, but we have blocks, it's 70 minute periods. So keeping people engaged in a marketing class for 70 minutes can be kind of difficult. And it runs from freshmen to seniors also. Alright. So that that can be a struggle because the seniors at that point know kind of how to study and how to manage their time and do their work. So they finish things quicker than the freshmen do, but I still have to give the freshmen the adequate time to complete their assignments. So that was kind of a a struggle. But accounting was pretty easy. Just out of a workbook. I'm up front showing them assets equals, liabilities, plus owners equity, all that good stuff.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

That sounds great.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:47

That was not a great class for the old biz. Now, are you dabbling into any coaching at the ice coaching?

SPEAKER_01 35:53

No, no, not yet. So do you want to have to? Possibly. I don't know if I would want to there because it's from where I live right now, it's a half hour away. So that's kind of would be annoying having to travel a half hour for Saturday practices and game nights and stuff. If it was more local, maybe I would get into it. But I'm taking classes to get my teaching certificate. So right now I'm emergency certified. So I didn't want to jump into my first year teaching and career change while I'm taking classes and put coaching on top of that. I thought that would just be a lot to take on at once. But probably in the future, I'll definitely end up coaching at some point. I don't know what level yet or anything like that, but I'll for sure want to get into coaching.

unknown 36:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

And why don't we get an AAU team and he can be our coach?

SPEAKER_03 36:48

Yeah, and then and then it's a feeder program for junior.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Feeder program. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:52

Oh. All right.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_03 36:54

Yeah, like a an all-star state of Pennsylvania type team.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

Yeah, have Marcus move back, Damon, get Damon on the next staff, too.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

Actually, is there an age limit with the AU? Let's just have them play. Yeah, do that.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Dude, we dominate. That'd be awesome. We would dominate. Close have you stayed with the junior ad program? Do you get to see a lot of the games? Do you get back for I know you come back for alumni weekend?

SPEAKER_01 37:19

I come back for alumni weekend. I follow kind of how they're doing throughout the season. I don't catch too many games. I want to catch the E Town game when they play out here this year. Last year I wasn't able to do so. So it's it's not really every game I'm sitting down and watching, but I'm tracking them, seeing what they're doing. It's also tough because I don't I don't know these guys very well. Like it was really easy after my senior year because I played with the guys that were coming up through. So I had a little bit more, I guess, buy-in to it at that point. Now it's a little bit tougher because I don't know the guys he's bringing in as well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

What was your take on last year? We gotta figure out how to what we gotta do next year.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

It was it was a tough season, I know, obviously. Uh I thought they really battled during the alumni game. That was awesome. I wish they could have come back. That was a fun atmosphere. That was a function. It was a great atmosphere. That was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun, high energy, and they played pretty well. It just came down to the end. Damn, we needed that win. That would have been but they they still ended up getting that win because Curly says the two hardest things to do are go completely defeated or undefeated.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

You tried to make a run at it last year.

SPEAKER_04 38:42

Yeah, we let's give the other one a shot, huh? Yeah, let's go the other one. We tried that with you guys. If you guys remember, one of the sounding boards after that night was Mr. Brewer and uh trying to keep us on track, and uh he had a lot of words where you could see his leadership come through there and how we need to approach and what we needed to do. But I I keep saying that night was a huge turning point for these younger guys. I've experienced being around these guys and understanding. I think the support and they can feel what this thing means to a lot of people, and uh I thought that really helped us play a lot better basketball late in the year.

SPEAKER_03 39:15

So, what do you think? What's your advice to these guys going into this year? Like, how do they turn this thing around?

SPEAKER_01 39:21

You gotta just completely buy in 100%. There can't be one foot out the door, you gotta go fully into it and trust the process, as always. I know it's a common saying, but it's really true. You don't just half-ass stuff, you go 100% all the time, and you set the tone immediately. You definitely need to have leaders um setting that tone specifically. Hopefully, it's your better players, the guys that are getting the minutes and games, because then that just falls down the line. You lead by example, know your assignments, know what you have to accomplish, and just go full bore at it. I said. Are you hooping anymore? You playing it or I'm not this summer. Yeah, I I'm gonna play in the fall, but um not this summer because I've had I played last year, but I was really only at the first half games because I had vacations going on. My girlfriend's family has a beach house, which is really nice. And now that I'm a teacher.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

So you have different priorities, is what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

All right. Priorities to lay at the beach, try and get some sun. It's alright. Hey curls, there's courts down at the beach, man. We we ran we ran on vacation.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Oh, I did that, I did that in the past for sure when I was in high school.

SPEAKER_04 40:44

He's playing stuff didn't mean. Yeah, he didn't miss too many. But I think now you just drive by and say, Remember when we played there?

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

A little courts of Ocean City, Maryland will never be the same.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

That's right. All right, I got some rapid fire questions here. Alright, let's do it. All right, I got I got a couple of them. Number one, toughest landmark opponent during your time. A guy that you faced that was your toughest, one player.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Probably Bryson Fonville. I would say he was the toughest. And then uh Steve's his last name. Steve W from Stephen Widlick from Susquehanna. But one guy, Bryson Fonville, ended up playing overseas. I think he he was in the G League for a little bit. Huh. Yeah, he was tough. That was a difficult cover.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

Did you have any uh like when you were done, did you have any interest or was there any interest for you overseas or no?

SPEAKER_01 41:42

No, I mean I got one of those standard packets I feel like everybody gets where you can go like try out, do like an open kind of run in New York or something like that, but I didn't really think about it too too much. Alright, question number two.

SPEAKER_03 41:57

Best craziest locker room. We're not road trip or road trip to fire away.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Or road trip. Or road trip. I'll give you a lot of. I would say the craziest locker room moment was after we knew we clinched the regular season title. That was wild because curly's energy came out there. We were dancing, having a great time. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Was he dancing? He danced a couple times.

SPEAKER_03 42:25

Let's see it. Come on, what do you got? How many games from the end of the season did you guys clinch? Was it the last game or was it multiple? It was a games before. I think it was the last game, right? It was the last game.

SPEAKER_01 42:35

We had two, we won, and then I think we had needed like Catholic to beat whoever they were playing. I don't know if it was Moravian. We needed like another team to lose, and then we found out that it all aligns in our favor. So that was Drew, right?

SPEAKER_04 42:50

We beat Drew, we beat Drew that day, and then uh and then found out You had to wait for somebody else to happen.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:56

We might have known going in, uh, because I think like we played at four and there might have been a two o'clock game, but I don't know. I mean, it was uh that was a fun one.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

That was a blast. That's my favorite memory there. Biggest clutch shot you ever hit. Biggest clutch shot I've hit. That one's a tough one. I don't know. I feel like I was always assisting on some clutch shots that Marcus hit. Well, that's fair. More so than me getting one up. Because there were moments where we just had possessions and then we would get like a layup. So we would have clutch possessions more so than like me kind of breaking down a guy and scoring.

SPEAKER_00 43:33

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 43:35

I got the last question for you. I mean, you gotta give us your Mount Juniata. You know the drill. I mean, you know the drill. I want your perspective on this because this is gonna be an interesting one. So is that four or five? We make it five. We make it a starting season. Of all time.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Of all time. Yes. I gotta go, Marcus, of course. I'll put shawls. Up there because he was our assistant coach. Um put the Hall of Famer Hayes in there.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

Gotta put myself in there. Yeah, why not?

SPEAKER_03 44:12

Is he the first man? He might be the first person to put himself in, and I appreciate you doing that. I knew Tom would love to meet.

SPEAKER_04 44:20

That's why that's why these guys won some games too.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

Let's put it there. I told you. But I will say that Depoy Award was our team award. We were the best defensive team by far. And I was just happened to be the head of that snake. So that was all in the team. It wasn't just me there. And then who do I want at the three? The big one. This is a big one. We got one more, right? Yeah, one more. Well, it's gotta be. So Cannon was up for player of the year, right? Yeah. Yeah. So Canon.

unknown 44:53

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

That's a strong five. That is a strong five. No offense to the other point guards out there, other guards out there for putting me in there.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

Because I'm willing to say right now, I'll take that five, and you can have the rest of Juni out of history. Wow. In the alumni game next week. And there next year.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Those five. Well, Canonics. I'll take those five. You got four.

SPEAKER_03 45:15

Alright, so I have to substitute somebody for Canon.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Shali needs to come. Yeah, that's right. Because Shali's never played.

SPEAKER_02 45:21

He can't play the high school, like his high school. He can get away by one Saturday. He's a coach. He can get hurt.

SPEAKER_03 45:30

Yeah, what if they're what if he has a game? Well, we got a schedule better. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Maybe we'll do a summer version. Maybe it's like a like a Rocky. We're going to a playground.

SPEAKER_04 45:45

The alumni game's going to be late this year. It's going to be in February because we have no January home Saturday games.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

Oh really?

SPEAKER_04 45:51

Whoa, so we got to do we do we have an announcement yet on when the date is? I have to check with uh Coach Hager and see exactly what date we've landed on. But uh we just had that conversation last week.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Well, let's Valentine's Day. How sweet would that be?

SPEAKER_04 46:06

Actually, I it it might be if I remember, but I can't. I don't know, Biz.

SPEAKER_03 46:10

Not official yet. Not official. When are we gonna break down the schedule? When do we when is the official schedule penciled done? Well it's got to be the great before the season, right?

SPEAKER_04 46:19

The schedule is done. I can I can get it to the show. It is done, but I think yeah, I think we have one more uh alumni guest lined up, right, for our next one at the end of the month here, and then I would assume that's the transition into the and then we unsailed it uh very early ro review of the schedule.

SPEAKER_03 46:37

It's gonna be some of the returners on it.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

What's one nugget you can give us? Let's do the schedule?

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Yeah, yeah. Is there like a team that we're we don't expect to be playing that we're gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 46:46

Are you starting with those dudes that we play every year?

SPEAKER_04 46:49

Our first, yes, our first three league games, I believe, are Drew and or Susquehanna Catholic and Drew. He's talking about yeah, what's the non-league team? Our opener, I think our opener is Friday, November 7th against Man Iowa Wishes at home game. So that's not who we normally play.

SPEAKER_03 47:04

It's the it's the team with the A. What are they? That you played back-to-back Albert game.

SPEAKER_04 47:10

No, no, we we we've changed up a little bit of the off uh non-league in Man Iowa Wishes AMCC. So Penn State Altoon is not on the schedule, but it's Penn State Altoona. Well, we flipped them out, and Man Iowa Wishes isn't really any farther away. It just when by the time we started working through the dates, now we need to lay things out. It's set up a little bit different.

SPEAKER_03 47:30

Now, did you did you grab Hager and shake him a little bit and say, because I remember at the beginning of last year, the schedule, you predicted it, came in, you said it's this is a tough schedule. Coming in out. You kind of shake him a little bit and say, hey, listen, let's let's let's change our schedule here a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 47:45

Yeah, we we might have had a few conversations and uh we we talked about how we have to adjust our our approach to scheduling based on where we are. So yeah, we but he listened Nick works very hard at that. And we're I mean see this, scheduling's not as easy as you think. There's a lot of work. And uh he really he really did a good job this year, I thought, probably getting our schedule where we needed to be. Hey, do we have any Pittsburgh games? Anything coming my way? Uh well we play uh I believe we're out at Westminster, is probably the closest to you. All right, I'm there. Which is another new yeah, and you're north, so it's that's another new team on the schedule.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna rally the troops down here. We're gonna come, we're caravan and so Tom. I'm gonna do an on-site, we'll we'll have a little uh pregame party.

SPEAKER_04 48:30

Yeah, we've kind of shuffled through the non-league. You're gonna see a bunch of different teams.

SPEAKER_03 48:34

Well, I like it. I like new teams. I was getting I was getting bored with those old teams.

SPEAKER_04 48:37

But to be truthful, the year before it was on the head coach because we honored the contracts we had and returned the games that we should have, and honestly, probably should have stepped out of a few of those based on where we were gonna be. But again, now, hey, listen, the Hayes and the barn on those, we've had those experiences now. Seth knows that a lot of it is now you know what it looks like, period. And that's the level you're gonna work to. And there's a lot of context for practices, and when we're watching tape now and we're putting together our our offseason clips to prepare for the season, and it's this is what it looks like. And if you can execute against these guys in this way, you're gonna have this level of success. I mean, it's pretty simple. So a lot of times that's a faster way to get there instead of kind of kidding yourself and um going that way. But we're gonna certainly test that theory out now and we've got to get going. So hopefully we're in shape. Hopefully we learn some lessons from that. Like Seth said, I think coming back and you know, when guys come back, you're this next year, you know, you and you're out, right? Like the the year of do I want to do this or not? Now what are you gonna do? And part of, you know, if you're running all those hills and doing all that stuff, it's a little harder to give up, right? A little harder to not be all in. Why are we doing this if we're not gonna go do it? And it becomes more about others than yourself because you put so much work. It's kind of ironic how it works that way, but the more you put in, the more it becomes about, hey, we gotta have some success here as a team instead of the other stuff.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

Well, Seth, we appreciate you coming on. I we're gonna see you at the alumni game, right?

SPEAKER_01 50:04

Absolutely. Absolutely. Making a point. Thanks for having me on, guys. This was fun.

SPEAKER_03 50:09

Yes, absolutely. Hey, and anytime, anytime the season, you want to jump on and give us your two cents? Yeah, we'll do.

SPEAKER_02 50:17

We need we need it.

SPEAKER_03 50:17

We need it.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

We do an invite we do have an analyst spot available, so you know.

SPEAKER_03 50:23

Oh yeah. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. All right, fellas, we got some exciting news coming. I'm not gonna give it all to you yet, but Junietta Men's basketball podcast, which is part of the Merrick Studio Network. Yeah. We got a lot of good things coming up very, very, very, very, very soon. So we are getting Bradley Cooper? We are getting some big guests that are across the network of shows. We're gonna come out hard in this fall. We got a whole new lineup of shows. I can give you a couple quick hints. Number one, I got I got a uh I got a guest coming on on Glossy, one of our one of our other shows, who's a four-time Super Bowl player. I have another guest coming on that was both an Olympian and an NBA champion. Oh, we got some big guests. We got some big guests coming to Unglossy. So you can stay tuned. All right. It's all gonna it's all gonna benefit all of Merrick Studios. That's fabulous. Which we are a big part of. Yes, we are. That's right. I'd say we've got the linchpin of Merrick Studios. I think we are the linchpin. I would say so. Follow the show on Instagram at Junietta Basketball Show. Subscribe to the Junietta Men's Basketball Show on Apple, Spotify. Wherever you listen to the podcast, leave us a comment on Instagram. Until next time, I'm Tom Frank.

SPEAKER_04 51:36

I'm the head coach Greg Curly.

SPEAKER_01 51:43

That was good.

SPEAKER_04 51:45

Are you at the beach right now?

SPEAKER_01 51:47

No, this is my basement. I don't really have a good spot to do these kind of podcasts.