Expanding Sunday
Current events, end time prophecies, conspiracies, and the bible. How does it all tie together? We walk through it all and dive deeper into what the bible really says versus what we were taught.
Expanding Sunday
Aliens Are Here!!
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Are aliens real? What about all the sightings? We cover fallen angels and Noah and the flood in this episode and try to tie all of it together.
Alright, on this episode of Expanding Sunday, we're gonna be talking UFOs and aliens. We're gonna be talking about some government disclosure. We've got Roswell, Phoenix Lights. Uh, we got aliens over DC and Noah and the Flood.
SPEAKER_02Because if you were taught like we were in church, you probably never heard the full story of the fallen angels in Nephilim.
SPEAKER_01So stick around as we attempt to tie UFOs and the Flood story together.
SPEAKER_04Welcome to this episode of Expanding Sunday.
SPEAKER_00Oh, wait, where's the button at? Yeah. Alright, we're gonna kick things off talking about UFOs. Ambrook is over there just dying laughing. What's what why? What's so funny about that? We had a get an applause going. It's the first episode.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, after Nick said, woohoo! Then you were the only one. You were the only one who had any excitement. Because all of it were just awkward, and we were like, hmm.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's a good thing we got the sound pad to at least cheer for us. Um all right, so anyways, let's we're gonna kick things off with our first uh UFO case. And uh this probably isn't the first UFO case, but it's the first, I guess, national news uh in the US uh UFO case, which would be in July of 1947 when a rancher named I have no idea what his name was, it's WW WW Brazzle. Well, Nick, what do you think the WW stands for? William Wyward. Is that from is that Squidward? That made me think of SpongeBob. Um the the uh William Fancy Son. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so in 1947, we got a rancher named WW Brazzell who found uh a bunch of strange debris on his ranch near Roswell. Of course, anytime you look up anything with UFOs, usually Roswell, New Mexico is going to be the first thing you find information on. So he contacted authorities, uh, and the authorities said that it was a flying disc. And literally within 24 hours, they of course changed what they said. They said it wasn't a flying disc, and they said it was a weather balloon, which is hilarious that you've got government officials that said that it was a flying disc, and they immediately changed their story to say that it's a weather balloon, um, mainly because they probably didn't want to cause mass panic with a UFO. So uh yeah, he contacted authorities and they said it was a flying disc, and then they later changed it to uh just being a weather balloon. So there was an officer named Jesse Marcel that posed with the debris, and then decades later, uh Marcel himself said that the debris that was in the photo wasn't what he actually recovered, and some people also said that there were bodies that were discovered with that uh with that UFO crash. So not only were bodies supposedly discovered, you've got this uh all this strange material that the people that found it said that it had all kinds of strange markings. Uh they said that the the foil from it that they thought it was a weather balloon, the people that actually said that seen it said that it didn't crease, like the metal didn't bend and wouldn't crease in any kind of way like you would think that a weather balloon foil um would do. So that's kind of crazy. So who knows what it actually was. Then in the 90s, uh the US Air Force said that it was actually part of Project Mogul, which was a top secret balloon program meant to detect Soviet nuclear tests, and that the bodies that people said they found, uh they later explained it as test dummies from high-altitude experiments. Which why would you wait almost 40 years to change that and say, oh, they were t high alt high altitude test dummies? That's just seems like a cover-up to me. But at that point, why even cover it up if it's 30 to 40 years later? That's just kind of weird. Yeah. So that's uh the first UFO crash site in the US that was um, I guess made national news was of course Roswell. And then in 1969, we've got Project Blue Book. Uh, do either of you remember what that was? Um something with the Air Force. Yes, it was with the Air Force.
SPEAKER_04Like a task force or something?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, kind of. Uh so Project Blue Book was the U.S. Air Force's official program to investigate UFO sightings from 1952 to 1969. And their goal was to determine if uh UFOs were a threat to national security, and then of course they were gonna analyze the UFO uh data scientifically. So over the years from 52 to 69, they collected 12,618 reports, and most of it was explained. Um they were able to debunk a lot of it from like birds or just aircraft or weather balloons, things like that. However, out of the 12,000 cases, 701 of them are officially unexplained. And to me, that's a lot. That's yeah, seven, I mean, I don't know. That's if you told me there's 700 unexplained cases, that's I don't know how much more proof I would need that there's some kind of extraterrestrial UFOs or something flying around. And Nick, here we go. This is uh I have a note here that says Nick ask about the scientist.
SPEAKER_01Um they actually hired a scientist named Jay Allen Heinek. And he was originally a skeptic, and that was the whole reason why they hired him. And and the uh more he looked into these cases, the more he started to believe. Um eventually he opened what was called the Center for UFO Studies in 1973.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so we have a skeptic that they hired, and he even opened up a research program for these UFO cases because they were so there was so much overwhelming data that they were legit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The more he looked into it, the more he started to believe, hey, this might be real. All right, well, that was 19 uh 52 to 1969. So also in 1952, because I skipped over this one here, and this which is funny because I thought this one to me was the most interesting, uh, was the aliens over Washington, D.C. Uh, have you ever heard about that, David? I have not. Uh me neither until I started looking into this, and this one to me was pretty nuts. Um, so the national, there was a national airport, the Washington National Airport, and Andrews Air Force Base tracked multiple UFOs. And there were multiple pilots, there were just grounds people, people on the ground, uh, that absorbed, observed, and reported the lights uh and seeing this aircraft. And it was reported as just having rapid speed and of course all kinds of crazy movement, which most of the time when you hear about UFOs, they always talk about how uh they move in crazy directions, how they can instantly switch speed and just change direction, which aircraft shouldn't be able to do. Um, but all these like air traffic controller people, as in towers, it blipped on their radars. So they I mean there was multiple confirmations that there were uh unidentified craft on the radars. So they um they blipped on the radars too. So like they would see them on the radar, they would disappear, and then they would come back, which they try to say like it was weather inversions and just glitches in the system. But for multiple people to have the same thing happening, you wouldn't think everything is malfunctioning or being glitched all at the same time, which that just seems crazy to me that that many people saw UFO UFOs over DC and they still try to write that off. Um, not only that, uh, since they thought it was a threat, DC scrambled jets to go intercept the UFOs. So you know it's got to be something serious if we're scrambling jets to go chase these things down. Um and the even crazier part is once the jets showed up, they the UFOs disappeared. And after the jets were flying around or they had to go refuel and they left, what happens? The UFOs came right back. What? So I I don't know, it's crazy. So there's a thing I I kind of thought about from the Bible that tied into that. Uh Nick, what did you have for Ezekiel? I think it was. Um, the very first chapter of Ezekiel.
SPEAKER_01Um, it talks about whenever God came to Ezekiel and it's like the glory of God, and it came with his accompanied angels. Um verse four, it says that there is a great whirlwind and a great cloud with fire flashing back and forth and brilliant light all around it. And in verse 14, it says the creatures were darting back and forth like flashes of lightning.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's what I was wondering if that could be. Oh, UFOs, because everyone always reports seeing bright lights and things, and of course the erratic movement and stuff from these UFOs, which we'll get into if we think um UFOs are actually spiritual beings or not. We'll we'll give our opinion here in just a little bit. So we've got um that was in 1952 over Washington, DC. And my next favorite one uh was the Phoenix Lights. And that one, what year was the Phoenix Lights? It was like 1990 something, I think it was. Um, let me see, let me see, let me see. All right, so that was uh it was 1997, was the Phoenix Lights. Also, this is another topic I had never heard about until I started researching this for myself. Uh David, have you heard about the Phoenix Lights? I have not. Which is crazy because it is one of the biggest mass UFO sightings in US history. And you would think uh 1997, to me, that doesn't feel like it's that long ago. Uh, but of course, the younger generation is gonna be like, yeah, that was the 90s, that was forever ago. But so in 19, it was uh March 13th of 1997, there were thousands of people uh that saw these bright lights across Arizona and Nevada. It was over spanned over 300 miles. So you've got uh just normal people, just civilians, uh, you've got the police, you've got pilots, all kinds of people reporting, seeing these uh these lights that were in uh kind of like a V shape in the sky. And uh the the governor of Arizona, uh, I don't I have no idea how to say this dude's name. I think it's Fife uh Symington. That's what we're gonna go with. If not, it's a long time ago. So uh but he he was mocking the event, like he was making fun of people saying it's that it's not UFOs, which if you're a government official, you're you don't want to cause panic. I guess that would make sense that you would uh you would kind of try to downplay what's actually happening so you don't cause a mass panic.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um so that was in '97. And then later, oh yeah. So later, the that same governor that was mocking people that thought it was aliens, uh, later he admitted, though, that he saw something enormous in the sky, unlike anything he'd ever seen before. So it sounds like one of those things when you're in office and they tell you to keep quiet, that you're gonna downplay something. But once you're out of office, uh you can kind of speak a little bit more freely about things. And of course, you don't want to be the governor that's got the crazy, suspected, crazy uh alien theories going on. Alright, so that was in '97. So then we get into the 2000s. Um, so there was another big one that was uh reported in the 2000s was the tic-tac formation. Let me guess. Y'all haven't heard of that one either, have you? Nope. That one was uh reported by the Navy, and it was uh they just called it the Tic Tac Formation, just these things that the UFOs that appeared on radar, um, that they just couldn't explain what it was, and they thought that was UFOs as well. So that's just a few brief UFO sightings, and it's not like it's one or two people reporting. You've got thousands and thousands and thousands of people, and uh that Project Blue Book had 12,000 something cases. Uh, so I mean it's just it's endless unexplained flying objects throughout. So then we get to what I like to call uh we had all so we have all these sightings of UFOs, and now it seems like we're getting the disclosure side of it. So now you've got uh in the early in 2020s, uh, you've got the Navy authenticating uh their UFO videos. So you know they're not fake. They confirmed they're not uh AI videos that they they authenticated and said that these are actual videos that our pilots caught on their cameras, on their uh their jets and things. So they authenticated it. Anything that we saw was supposedly real, is what they're saying. Uh now, granted, some of them you can't really tell what we're looking at. Um, some of them they try to explain as like birds or flares or um satellites, things like that. But there's a lot of them out there that they they just can't explain. And of course, now we've got um literally the government disclosures. I think it's like what aliens.gov or something. You you can literally just go through the archives, archives, and just um find all these videos for this. Um the other cool one too was in uh 2021, I think it's June of 2021, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence uh released its preliminary UAP report to Congress. So, I mean, they're literally taking UFO cases to Congress, which is why would you do that if it will if they weren't legit? Like there's there's got to be something to that, obviously. So um they reviewed 144 uh reported incidents from 2004 to 2021, so that's only from 04 to 21. Like that's not even counting all the things you all the years prior to that. So they had one that was identified with high confidence that it was just a large deflating balloon, which is kind of funny. So that's the one, the other 143 remained unexplained because there wasn't enough data to classify any of it, which that's crazy to me. You've still got out of 144, they explained one, the other 143. They they're they can't explain it. So if you've got uh only one that you could explain out of the 144, though, that's just that's crazy to me. And then what's even nuts, more nuts than that, is that 80 of those 144, uh, they tracked them on multiple sensors. So they got it on radar, they got it on infrared, and of course, it was visual um that you know all the pilots were able to see it. And of course, like usual, uh 18 of the incidents showed a lot of crazy movement, um, like them hovering against wind. Of course, there's the crazy abrupt maneuvers, uh, super fast speeds, which is kind of the typical thing with all UFO sightings, it seems like they there's none that you never hear someone talking about a UFO and say, Oh yeah, it flew like a normal drone or a jet or something, of course. Um, and then you've got 11 cases of those were near misses with military aircraft. So I don't know if I'm on a a jet, if I was a military and on a jet and I saw some crazy UFO looking thing, that was a near miss. You would think more people, military people would be reporting on this, unless, of course, there's some kind of like what is it called, like an NDA, or like you can't talk about certain things you see um while you're in in the military. Uh so yeah, that's it to me. You've got all the UFO sightings uh for what I think we did the math on this the last time. It seemed to really start in the 40s and then kind of I wouldn't say slow down, you still see things a little bit here and there, but from like the 40s to the early 2000s, I think it was, it was like what almost 70 years of UFO sightings. Um what in the Bible? Um, I don't know if it's Daniel or if it is um I can't remember, but isn't it like the the weekly cycles? It's like 70 years for um I'm trying to think how to explain this. I wouldn't say a time period is 70 years, but there's something that like the 70 weeks of Daniel, there's seems to be a thing where it's always the number 70 pops up 70 years, 70 cycles. Have you ever heard of that? I can't remember off the top of my head what specific Bible verses that uh there are. But anyways, my point being is I just think it's kind of funny that we've had almost 70 years of all this UFO activity, and then you kind of switch over into uh the disclosure era. So now we're getting all the disclosure confirming all the stuff that we'd seen, and we are going to tie that into how I think that relates into the end times. Um, but before we get into that and we go to the future, we are going to go into the past and tie all that into Noah and the flood. Because if you were uh raised in church like we were, you probably had the very watered down version, which is pun intended, watered. You know, I never actually thought of that. That's that's pretty funny. Um, well, I'm glad I chose Noah and the Flood for the first topic then. So that that worked out good. Um, but yeah, you were if you were taught like we were, a lot of the Bible stories we were taught were either very watered down or they're just wrong. Um I don't think why we I mean we grew up in church, and I don't think there's ever been a time whenever we would talk about knowing the flood, um Nephilim or Fallen Angels were even mentioned. Nope. It was all because they were bad.
SPEAKER_04I don't think they were wrong intentionally though, because whenever I talk to mom about the stuff that I've learned, she didn't really know either.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um I think it's the w the watered down versions are just passed down because one, there's basically a few things that you need to know, and all the other background stuff unless you really want to look into it and dig into it. It doesn't really matter as long as you believe that Jesus died for you and and that you believe in God and whatever.
SPEAKER_00Um Yeah, well that's that's what we kind of the point we're making that there's a lot of churches that want to get the main point across that uh that Jesus came to die for your sins, but then there's a lot of people like us who want to understand what that means. Like there's some people can't just accept that, oh, this man came and died for your sins, so you should believe in him and accept him as your savior. Well, why? Why what makes us sinful? Why did he have to come die? Why was why was that the only option? Why couldn't if God's almighty, why couldn't there have been an alternative instead of having Jesus die? And I just don't feel like I was ever really taught that in church. It's just you're taught the the base story of the Bible, but none of the details. Um and so much of the Bible we're taught wrong. Yeah, and that too. It's a lot of it's taught wrong, which is why we want to do some misconceptions of the Bible. But first, we're going to start with um our favorite story, Noah and the Flood. So, okay, I'll say my favorite story since Brooke made a face over there. I just think Noah and the Flood is is super interesting just because of how much it ties into uh all of humanity even till today. So uh if you've been to church, if you haven't been to church, uh you might at least know the basic story of well, at least the way we were taught was that humanity was so bad and just so sinful that God decided to flood the entire world and everyone died. And that's basically the way we were taught. And of course, Noah was the only good person, so God spared Noah and his family, and then he brought the animals on two by two, which is also not true. Nope. So we'll get into that.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_02No, it was seven clean and two unclean. I think two clean and seven unclean. I thought it was the other way around.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, we'll be around. Okay, well, we're gonna let Nick we're gonna let Nick flick that. Up so we can confirm the actual number, and then we're gonna blow Brooks' mind since I thought we talked about this already, but apparently I guess you don't remember. Um, so yeah, so yeah, that's you're always taught that two Noah brought the animals two by two on the ark, and they were the ones that survived because Noah wasn't the only good person.
SPEAKER_04Like it's very specifically taught two by two. I mean, even like the crafts and stuff that we would do would have like two animals, two sets of animals, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Even songs you would sing two by two.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Genesis 7-2, you are to take with you seven pairs a male and its female of all the clean and two of the animals that are not clean. You are also to take seven pairs, male and female of the bridge of the sky.
SPEAKER_04Um then why are we taught two?
SPEAKER_00Because how else would you have an easy song to sing if they weren't two by two?
SPEAKER_04Because it says two, but it's just not they're also not thinking about the seven.
SPEAKER_00I guess. I don't know, but that's that's our point is that's why we wanted to do this podcast and talk about these Bible stories, because a lot of the stuff we were taught was wrong. And if you're taught that way, uh when you're thinking about things, when you start thinking of this stuff for yourself, a lot of it doesn't make sense because you don't have the the the truth or the right details. And that's why we want to share this stuff, and that's why we're tying the UFOs into Noah and the Flood, because if you stick around for the next 10 more minutes or so, we'll eventually get to that point. So we've got Noah and the Flood. Uh, the the story you're typically taught is that Noah um was the only good person, so God spared him and his family, his wife and his uh three sons and their three wives. And then, of course, they took the animals two by two, they survived the flood and then basically repopulate the earth. And that's pretty much what you're taught. So they leave out one of the most important points which um ties into our UFOs and aliens, and uh basically ties the entire Bible and all of sin and all of evil all together, and that is the fallen angels and the Nephilim. So if you've never heard that term before and you're wondering what the heck is a Nephilim and fallen angels, that's okay because we weren't taught that either until we did our own research. And I've read through the entire Bible and I've done study on it. So by no means am I an expert on all these things, but I at least know enough to share. Um, because if you're like me and this stuff interests you, then hopefully that's why you're listening to begin with. So what are uh oh before we before we get into the Nephilim and and the fallen angels? Okay, so what we'll start with David. What do you think the UFOs slash aliens actually are before we tie it all into with uh Noah and the Flood?
SPEAKER_02I think they are spiritual entities, either angels, demons, both, and in some way it's gonna be used in the end times.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Uh Nick? Yep, I agree 100%. I think Satan has a hierarchy, and we'll probably get into that here in a minute. But I also think on the flip side of that that they are also angelic beings.
SPEAKER_00Alright. Um, Brooke, what do you think?
SPEAKER_04Well, thank you for asking, Zach. I have no earthly idea.
SPEAKER_00And that's why we want you on the podcast. That way, uh, you kind of keep us grounded if we're getting too far out there. So uh yeah, I I agree with the two of you though. Um that's what basically what I think is that UFOs, uh the UFO side of it uh might be what Ezekiel was talking about, the wheel within the wheel. Um, but the actual creature, the UFO it's or the alien itself is uh is just spiritual beings. I don't think we've ever recovered an actual alien like body. Uh I think that's all made up and fake. But when you were talking about the spiritual beings that followed God around, it sounded like they were in some kind of craft which had bright lights, had they moved erratically. Sounds like UFO to me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so their spirit actually resided in the wheel next to them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean that that's almost how you would describe some of these the this UFO craft.
SPEAKER_04But why would they need to why would why would their spirit need to reside in anything? Like why couldn't it just be like a a ghost?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I don't know, but maybe they're maybe they can't be maybe it's something to do with the presence of God. Maybe they can't stand before the presence of God without having whatever this the craft is around them. Um I mean we can't stand before the presence of God, and that's why uh when they had they built the tabernacles um with the priests.
SPEAKER_04Do I never get to see what he looks like though?
SPEAKER_00God?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um I think you will when you get to heaven and you receive your immortal body. Because you'll be changed. Yeah, uh we are not worthy to be in his presence right now. But when we are changed and in heaven, we'll become worthy through Jesus.
SPEAKER_00And not to mention to uh they're trying they were following God. Maybe God moved super fast and the spiritual beings couldn't, and they had to use craft to keep up with God.
SPEAKER_04Why were they following God? Were they his assistant?
SPEAKER_00Because God was so holy, they were just constantly worshiping him. Oh there's a yeah, there's a whole kind of like what you said, a hierarchy, even with God. He's got his own counsel.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's not, I mean, it is God is over everything. Yes. But yes, God has his own counsel.
SPEAKER_04He has a council?
unknownYep.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Uh that's what is in the book of Job whenever uh Satan even comes before God in his council whenever he wants to tempt Job, which we're getting way off topic here. So that we that'll definitely be another episode. Um Job will be a we it'll be its own episode with with Job and the council and Satan, yes, uh, because that's a super important uh topic as well. Um so yeah, so that's what I think the the UFOs um is the craft that some kind of heavenly craft that we don't understand what it is. That's why no one can explain what they are. Uh and then I think that the aliens are spiritual beings. Um they kind of the same thing. I think they could be angelic. I think there's good um spiritual beings that are in these craft, and I also think there are bad ones, and there's there are demonic ones.
SPEAKER_02And um uh I think the bad the good one, if the good ones that are there, I think the devil will perverse it for his purpose to deceive people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I can see that too. Um just that kind of goes with the whole the great deception thing. Um we were talking about why we would be able to see them to begin with, but I know I've asked this a million times to you, Nick. I should have this memorized. I'm gonna have to get this, I'm gonna get this tattooed on my arm because I say it all the time. Uh you're already looking up because you know what I'm gonna ask you. What is the verse? It's Ephesians, I want to say 6.12. I think I at least have that part memorized, but I cannot remember it word for word. It is Ephesians 6.12. Okay, read it to me.
SPEAKER_01For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
SPEAKER_00Yes, so I think of course, I think right now um Jesus is the is going to be um the ruler of this kingdom uh when his time when he returns. Uh but Satan has dominion over the earth temporarily. But there's a spiritual war going on that we can't see, and that's what I've always kind of thought the UFOs were. If it's a spiritual warfare going on, we get glimpses of these things, and not to mention there's another Bible verse too. Was it I want to say it was in Luke. We wrote that one down, and of course, I don't have that sticky note, but it was um it might have even been Matthew, but I know for sure I think it was Luke. Um, when it talks about there will be signs in the the heavens, uh, there'll be terrors and signs in the heavens. I think that's before, yeah. Well, uh, it's in Matthew, but I think it's also in Luke as well. All right, uh, yeah, here it is. It's um Luke 21, 11. Uh actually we're going back up and just say to 21.10. Uh, and this is Jesus talking. He said, Then he said to them, nation will rise against nation, which this is of course, this is end time stuff we're talking about here. And obviously, you've got nation rising against nation with I don't know if we can say specific nations without getting flagged. I'm sure everyone knows. Yeah, yeah. So we are you know there's nations fighting against nations, so we'll just leave it at that. Uh kingdom against kingdom, kind of the same thing. And there will be great earthquakes. Um, of course, there's been earthquakes throughout history. Just this past few weeks, though, wasn't it uh what geez, what is today? Uh June 27th. June 27th. So like the week of the June 20th, um, weren't there like three major earthquakes that just hit like the Philippines, Venezuela, and Chile, somewhere like that? Um, I don't know, but there's been a lot of earthquakes happening within the past month, it seems like, which once again, we're just tying all this together here. Um uh and various places, famines and pestilences. I don't know about that. I'm sure there's probably famine somewhere in the world. Gotta be. Um, and and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven. And that's kind of what I was getting to was that point. Um, what would the terrors be? Uh, I don't know, maybe tornadoes destroying things. That's the terror from heaven, and the great signs from heaven. Maybe that's one of the reasons also, too, why we see some of these spiritual beings is literally because there will be signs from the heavens, and that maybe that's what some why we see some of these. There was also the point that uh I think Nick said about the spiritual warfare where we just get glimpses of good angels fighting um bad angels. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, I mean, the whole purpose of obviously like the fallen angels is to deceive and get people farther away from God. Then in Hebrews, it talks about how the a the God's angels are sent to minister to people who are gonna inherit salvation. So maybe like the random glimpses are like the angelic beings. Meanwhile, all the stories of like abductions and terrors and stuff, maybe those are like the fallen fallen angels trying to spread terror.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh makes sense to me.
SPEAKER_03Alright, so I like actual fighting like swords or karate.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_04There could be angels and demons fighting outside of our house.
SPEAKER_00Uh I wouldn't in the spiritual realm. Yes. Maybe not right outside our house, but probably somewhere in the sky, maybe. Who knows? I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Or could it also be like kind of like um how it was always portrayed in cartoons, you know, like you have the devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other, and like whatever one wins is the one that, you know Pretty much, yeah. So like, wow.
SPEAKER_00Remember we were talking about um Saint Satan isn't uh was it omnipresent? Omnipresent. Omnipresent. Yeah, he doesn't know your thoughts, but I'm very glad of that.
SPEAKER_04He can but of course put thoughts into your head, but he cannot read your mind. Yes.
SPEAKER_00If demons can hear you, like things you talk about and they know things about you because like they uh watch you and hear you, then they can put thoughts into your mind or something. Yeah, uh, but that kind of goes what you're talking about with the angel on one shoulder and Satan on the other shoulder.
SPEAKER_04I don't like that.
SPEAKER_00Um golly, where okay, so I think that was us explaining what we thought the UFOs were. Um I don't I have no idea how we got to this point. So it's we are way off. We're going to jump back on to Noah. So we've got the you've got all the UFO sightings, you've got the disclosure that's happening. We kind of gave a briefing of what we thought uh UFOs and aliens were being spiritual beings. So, how does this tie into Noah and the Flood? We already said we already talked about Noah and the Flood, uh, what we were taught in church being Noah was the only good person or the righteous man, uh so that's why God saved him and his family. Uh, we briefly talked about the two by two animals, which was wrong, and it gave us the verse on what the how they actually went onto the ark. So, where does Genesis six come into play? Because uh nobody uh to my knowledge, most preachers don't preach about Genesis six when it talks about the the watchers coming down and taking the women for themselves and they procreate and they create the Nephilim, which are also the giants. So if you've never heard that before, that's okay because we didn't hear about that in church either. But it's a major, it's such an important topic. I don't understand why you would leave out such an important detail because it's not just that humans were bad and that's why God flooded the world, it's because you have the watchers, which were angels in heaven, uh, they had their post that God assigned them to do, and they chose to leave their positions in heaven, come to earth, uh procreate with the women, and the women were giving birth to these Nephilim giants, which were half-breed spirits, so they're part human, part angelic. And Brooke is over there making a confused face. So what do I need to back up and explain here before we get too far into this?
SPEAKER_04Nothing. I was just thinking that the who made it with the women the fallen angels. Okay, I was just laughing at myself, thinking that the fallen angels were like, ooh, and then like whistle went after the women, you know.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, that's that's that is what it says though, is that the watch the the watchers um it says Genesis six, two, I'll just read it.
SPEAKER_01The sons of God saw that the daughters of mankind were beautiful, and they took any they chose as wives for themselves. And to kind of back up what we were talking about in Job, Zach had mentioned the divine count council, and it specifically says the sons of God. In Hebrew, it's the same exact word. So meaning the angels, the fallen angels saw that the women were beautiful.
SPEAKER_04So they went Hey, I did better that time.
SPEAKER_00And they yeah, so they decided to procreate with women, and that's what created the Nephilim slash well Nephilim and Giants, pretty interchangeable term here, but we'll just say well, I'll probably continue to say both, but either way.
SPEAKER_04Hang on, because what made the fallen angels uh like what did they do to fall from heaven?
SPEAKER_02They didn't they chose these ones.
SPEAKER_04Okay, they chose, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_02There was another event, the war in heaven, the rebellion.
SPEAKER_00Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, don't get too far ahead. Yeah, we're gonna get into that because that's an important topic that also isn't talked about in church, and that's that's something else I want to dive into, but let's we'll get to that point.
SPEAKER_02That was the original fallen angels. These chose to leave their positions and doomed humanity, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, technically, I guess we doomed our own, yeah. So, yes.
SPEAKER_04They probably had it made up there, and then they were like, This is dumb. We're leaving.
SPEAKER_01Man, look how beautiful those women are.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, what the what? No, for Leonardo DiCaprio, I wouldn't mind have left.
SPEAKER_00So, anyways, they did, and that's why you get this this race of giants, the Nephilim, and basically they were destroying everything on the earth, everything there were no good people left, all the DNA um left in on the earth was corrupted because of what these fallen angels did.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean you take a basically immortal angel and a mortal man or woman in this case, and that kind of fuses the DNA together.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so it really jacked everything up, and not only that, didn't uh this might be coming from the book of Enoch, but um wasn't it also the the fallen angels? I'm I'm gonna call them the Watchers just because I want to classify them separately than when whenever we talk about fallen angels. Yeah, because a lot of people in church they just group everything together as fallen angels, but there's separate events that happen between these these groups of angels. So I want to just just to clarify, we're talking about separate groups.
SPEAKER_04Um Okay, wait. So okay, so the fallen angels left by choice.
SPEAKER_00Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no. That's why we're gonna call them the watchers.
SPEAKER_04Okay, the watchers left by okay. So whenever I'm thinking of fallen angels, I'm thinking of all of them, but you're separating them. Yes. So the watchers left by choice.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so the watchers left by choice, they create the Nephilim giant with the women. The all of humanity's DNA is so corrupted. It says the I think the Bible verse talks about Noah. It does it doesn't say that Noah's um a good man, it says that he's perfect in his lineage, and I think that means he didn't have corrupted DNA. And Nick will probably dive into this because it I don't want to get too far into this because it's a different topic we can talk about at a different time, but um Satan tries to corrupt the line of at was Adam or Seth.
SPEAKER_01Well, originally it was Adam. Well, it's with uh Cain and Abel, never he killed them, but uh it was through Seth's line that the promised Messiah was gonna come. So basically Satan was trying to mess up everything as he always does.
SPEAKER_00Okay, hang on. So from the beginning, God already had a plan for salvation, so God knows everything from beginning to end. Um and he knew we would mess up, but he already had a plan of salvation. So Satan is trying to stop that salvation from coming. Yeah, so that's why he's trying to corrupt all the DNA so that our Savior wouldn't come, which of course he didn't know who it would be or anything like that, but he's trying to stop them from coming. So then we get back to Noah. So Noah was perfect in his lineage, so he came from the line of Seth, yes. Yeah, and he came from the line of Seth, which eventually leads the genealogy leads to Jesus coming from this same line. So if you've got the only uncorrupted DNA um in Noah, that's why God saved Noah and nobody else, because everybody else was so evil and corrupted. Uh Noah was the only one that wasn't. Um, and of course, I guess his family and his sons and uh their wives. So that's the real reason why that God flooded the earth is because of corrupted DNA um between the fallen angels, or sorry, sorry, sorry, the watchers and humanity, except for Noah. He he didn't he wasn't corrupted, he didn't have messed up DNA yet. So there's the theory um it talks about that in the end times it'll be like in the days of Noah. So in there's giants after the flood. So if the flood wiped everything out except for Noah and his family and the animals on the Ark, how are there giants after the flood? Alright, what's your opinion, David? I have I have a pretty good answer for this, but I'm just curious to see what you think.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna have to pass on this one because I haven't Alright, we're gonna skip David, Nick.
SPEAKER_00Well, actually, no, no, I'll we'll skip Nick too because don't we think the same thing, right? Pretty much, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh can we back up to Noah for a second though? Um it also says in verse 8 that Noah, however, found favor in the sight of the Lord. So Noah was also righteous. So to me, maybe they made the choice themselves whether or not to corrupt their own DNA. You lost me on that one. So if Noah had the choice to basically well, what we know his self. Um, if Noah's lineage chose not to corrupt their own DNA, meaning none of them made it with the fallen angels, then maybe that's how you found favor with the Lord by making the right choice to be sold to God.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah, that makes that makes a lot more sense now. Especially since we paused it and three times. Okay. So uh what was I asking before um before that? I lost my train. We literally just asked it.
SPEAKER_02Um where do you think the giants came from after the flood?
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay, wait. So were they were they around before the flood?
SPEAKER_00Yes, obviously.
SPEAKER_04Here's what happened. They were in the giant sequoias in California. The giant huge trees, right? That only a giant would be able to be. They were like they went all the way up. And whenever the flood happened, they were so high up it couldn't reach them. You heard it here first. On X.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah, that's I I would almost bet money on it that that is not what happened.
SPEAKER_04But I'm just not remembering. Didn't like did the flood literally wipe everything out?
SPEAKER_00Yes. God said God said that uh all living flesh was killed in the flood, except for Noah and his family and the animals on the ark. So here's my thing. I think the giants were killed because they were flesh. They were half human, half angelic beings. Their spirits have nowhere to go, though, because they're whatever, they're not just and they're not normal spirits. Um, what was the term we used? Uh half breeds. Half breeds, yeah. Okay, so now pay attention, broke, because this is where we're getting into the other um classes of fallen angels and stuff here.
SPEAKER_04I mean, if you think about it, that's probably what started the Jack and the Beanstalk stories. Little Timmy went outside one day to do something and he saw a giant in a tree, and he's like, Oh my gosh!
SPEAKER_00Hey, I I will tie a lot of stories and movies into the Bible though, because I think a lot of them tie into it. But anyhow, um I think the the f uh so the Nephilim and giants, their flesh died, and their spirits are what we know as demons. So anytime you hear the term demon or demonic possession in the Bible, I think it's the wandering spirits of the Nephilim. It's not like the specific demons that came with Satan. I think it's those those Nephilim spirits. So you've got what we'll call the watchers that came down, and then you've got the their offspring, uh, which was the Nephilim, and then their flesh died in the flood, so then their spirits are roaming the earth, and that's where you get that's what we call we'll call demons. So we've got watchers and demons now. Um and did w I can't remember. Were we gonna back up to you, David, for something? I don't think so. Okay. Um so after the flood, uh everything's wiped out. So where did the giants come from? Like, of course, we got the story of David and Goliath. Um, so where did the giants actually come from? Here's what I think the flood wiped out living flesh on earth. You've got the fall the fallen uh sorry, I won't say fallen angels, the watchers, it says that they were chained in the earth for their punishment. That's injured. Yeah, so they're pun they were immediately punished. Satan and his followers, they're still awaiting their punishment until the end of times. The watchers were so bad, they were immediately chained. So they paid for their punish they they were punished immediately because of what they did to humanity. So you've still got these the watchers still chained within the earth. Um, I think that's what it even says that they're chained in the Euphrates River. And it talks about once the at towards the end times, once the Euphrates uh river dries up, that they'll be released to wreak havoc um during like the seals that are poured out for judgment. Um which is also kind of crazy because the Euphrates rivers and those rivers are drying up. So uh now the giants themselves, I still think that uh the fallen angels basically just did the same thing again. They just corrupted humanity. Uh a lot the lot of theories is one of um the wives of Noah's sons, that they actually their lineage um wasn't pure, that they actually carried the Nephilim DNA. Yeah, I don't agree with that. I don't either. I just I don't I don't know. I don't buy that. I think that the Watchers or the Fallen Angels just tried it again. They all they did is made it with humans because after that you get all these stories, and we are not gonna talk about Moses and the gods and all this stuff again. Or in this episode, well that'll be a totally different episode. But you've got there's an underlying story to the Bible. Of course, the most important one is that uh God's plan of salvation that he sent Jesus to to redeem us. But all throughout the Bible, you've got stories of God performing miracles and all these different tribes, the Israelites, just people all throughout the Bible. Things happen that God shows his power to show he's the one true God, and yet these tribes they'll still and people will still turn and follow uh we'll call it lowercase g gods. The Bible talks about other gods all the time. It says they're they're not legit, it says that the one Yahweh is the one true God, but then you've still got the lowercase g gods that people still turn to. And um, I think I was reading in Daniel that they were talking about um Nebuchadnezzar King Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel tells him his dream, and Nebuchadnezzar says, Your God is the one, the God of Daniel is the one true God. The next chapter, Nebuchadnezzar immediately makes a golden idol and wants people to worship that idol, and he's following a different god. And it's like, if you see the power of the one true God, what are these other fallen angels that are masquerading as a lowercase g god doing to get people to follow them? Like they've got to be showing some kind of power and signs to get people to follow them. Um, so I think that's what's happening is you've got uh the flood happens, wipes everything out. It doesn't kill the spirits of these Nephilim. So those are the demonic beings that possess, and to this day, I think the demonic they're kind of the demons are like the lower uh kind of like in Satan's hierarchy. They're the lower class that just kind of torture and torment people and do possessions and things like that. Uh your watchers are the ones that are chained. Then you get into Satan and the fallen angels. The fallen angels are what I consider uh the ones that fell with Satan, they chose to rebel and then they were cast to earth. And that they've still got some kind of power because, like I was saying, all throughout the Bible, um, all the stories and all the people, it's talks about them following other lowercase G gods. And I think that's these fallen angels that fell um with Satan.
SPEAKER_01Um third uh Deuteronomy 32 17 actually says uh they would sacrifice the demons and not to gods. Uh not to God, to gods they had not known, to newly arrived gods, which your ancestors do not fear. And then in First Corinthians 10 20 it says they offer to demons and not to God. So these demons were uh taking the place of the idols.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so this this is why this is so important. You don't hear about Genesis 6, you don't hear about the Nephilim, you don't hear about the fallen angels so much in church, you just hear about the flood story. But yet all of this can be tied into why so many different evil things happened throughout all of history and even lead up to today, to where you can see um signs of the spiritual beings um will say in the heavens and the skies, and and you still see it today. I mean it's still going on 2026 years later. Um so alright, Brooke, you had something that you wanted to bring up with uh a second ago.
SPEAKER_04I had a question earlier, but you answered it whenever you kept talking, so I'm good.
SPEAKER_00Alright. So we are going to wrap this episode up, and hopefully that explained a little bit of how uh we think UFOs and aliens, what they are, and how they actually tie into the Bible and how important it is to learn um what some of these Bible stories actually mean and the truth behind it. And hopefully um you little learned a little bit more than the watered down version, like we were taught. So just remember that there's always a spiritual warfare going on around us, um, especially as we get closer to the end times. As Brooks over there doing karate. Although I think it's cool. A lot of the depictions of the angels with um like art the Archangel Michael is with like swords and stuff. It's crazy to think we have like guns and nukes, but the holy battle will probably be with like swords and shields still. If only we could see the spiritual realm. I know, right? Wouldn't that be insane?
SPEAKER_03Terrifying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it probably really would. I don't know that I would want to. Because if you read what how angels are actually depicted in the Bible, it's terrifying. That's not something I'd want to walk outside and see floating in the sky.
SPEAKER_01I mean, if I see somebody walking like around Walmart or something and demon oppressed, that should make me want to go up and start praying over them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that's true too. Um, so yeah, so that's how we got UFOs tied into Noah and the Flood. And hopefully you learned something and uh learned a little bit about Nephilim and Fallen Angels and how important that is. And we are definitely going to continue to talk about these in more episodes because um the fallen angels uh basically tie into every Bible story. So um yeah, that's pretty much it. So where can people follow and uh like and follow us, Brooke?
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SPEAKER_00Yeah, maybe you just want to know you follow a different God, and we can explain that because there are multiple gods in the Bible, and it talks about why there's only the one true God. So that's a wrap for this episode, and we're out. Hit outro music.
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