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SPOILERS AHEAD, PROCEED WITH CAUTION
Strap in for this next episode where Miah & Rachel review Barbie, a Greta Gerwig film featuring Margot Robbie as Barbie and Ryan Gosling as Ken. You may want to stop for some ice cream on the way home from this one.
This series kicks off a new kind of discussion that's perfect for playing after you leave the theater. From film credits to front door, Miah & Rachel chat about the latest movie releases for as long as traffic permits.
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It's a car ride home. I will take over now because I'm a man. I'm a guitar.
SPEAKER_01And we just saw Barbie. If you weren't reading into that. And maybe it's okay. I'm okay with you starting because I am dehydrated from crying. It's because men are better.
SPEAKER_00No, I shed a tear. I will not lie. It was really good.
SPEAKER_01Did you shed a tear because of me, or did you shed a tear because just generally? Like it was like bah.
SPEAKER_00Because Margot Robbie is smoke show. No. Okay, full spoilers. If you haven't seen Barbie. We're spoiling everything.
SPEAKER_01We're telling everybody.
SPEAKER_00Listen to this if you have not seen Barbie.
SPEAKER_01You should only listen to this if you are on the way home or after seeing the movie.
SPEAKER_00Listen to this on the way home from watching Barbie. There's a line where Barbie's Margot Robbie is like, oh Mother, I'm not good enough. And literally the narrator of the movie gets always like, Margot Robbie's not the person they cast for this particular part of this role.
SPEAKER_01That's right. It's an immediate meta, but you're like, oh my god, thank you for acknowledging that. But then you get into, and all of you have probably seen whispers of it, and if you haven't, you've been under a rock. Everybody's talking about a particular speech or soliloquy that America Ferrero.
SPEAKER_00There's Ferraro and Ferrero, and they're so close I can never get them right. Anyway, so I will go on because someone's gotten very clipped and you gotta talk about things amongst yourselves. Peas. No, peanuts are neither peas nor nuts. Discuss amongst yourself.
SPEAKER_01No, I've got I'm I'm fine. Um I'm fine.
SPEAKER_00So I will take it from here because I'm a man. I'm gonna be a man. I'm a woman. And whoa, man. So I will go from here. The uh techniques of it being super pink and the amount of pink wearing movie goers was disturbing. Um because as a historian, for those of you who listened to this, the three people who listen to this, uh in historical perspective, pink was a man's color until it was not, it was then baby blue. Baby blue was considered too weak, and pink was considered the color of blood and strength. That was around 1900, around that was the case. And I see this because I live in the past because I'm a historian. Um, so I see all these people wearing pink, I'm like, oh. They're all just trying to be little boys, little men, but that's another story. Um there were lots of pink. There was a full theater that we saw. We saw it at the Alamo Diraft House, highly recommended Alamo Diraft House. Please sponsor us and uh give us money. Um it was an almost completely packed house, which was awesome. And after the speech that my lovely wife, who is sobbing off camera here, she is in the back seat just uncontrollably weeping. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, I am reclimped. I'm not kidding, but go on, you were but after that speech, I was like, someone's gonna say something. Someone say something! Yeah, someone's like, sing it, preach it, girl, or whatever say it, girl.
SPEAKER_00It didn't break the movie, it did not, and but it was hilarious. And then there was jokes in the movie right after that. So it was a super serious moment. It was definitely a meta in how women are perceived in the world in America, um, you know, as and I'm not gonna say her speech because I can't say her speech. I haven't memorized it, I've only heard it once. But you can't be espousing what women go through and be completely serious and be taken seriously. It's very ironically horrible, but that's just the way it is. Um so they they took this Barbie movie and made it allegorical, would you say? It's not necessarily metaphorical, but it's not obviously real. They're in a Barbie world, you know.
SPEAKER_01Well, I think you're what you're saying, they mixed the fantastical aspect of Barbie with the real world. And and for those of you who, you know, you do look at Barbie, it's problematic, you know, especially as a woman, but just generally in society. Okay. Um, it's problematic, and they I'm trying to yeah, sorry. And it he's just trying to like over. Turn it off the thing. Yeah. Anyway, um, it's problematic because you do look at like what what was Car Barbie the doll? What was the contribution or detractions for women in society through the decades? And I say through the decades, I think that's important because it obviously we've changed, we change a lot through the decades. I will tell you, I'm gonna speak from a personal aspect here. Um I am dehydrated. I cried a lot. I d I haven't heard from all women that they cried too. I did go into this movie, I had a rough week, and I had a rough day.
SPEAKER_00That leads into it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I'm sure that led into me crying, and I don't apologize for that, I'm explaining.
SPEAKER_00Um are you woman explaining?
SPEAKER_01I'm woman's plaining. Um I am interjecting here. Go for it.
SPEAKER_00She had said that you had said that this was like Toy Story 3, ugly crying. When I saw Toy Story 3, that's the first movie I took my son when he was like four or whatever, or five. When he was old enough to go see a movie in a theater and sit down the entire time without going completely bonkers, it was Toy Story 3. And I had a hard time when Andy leaves. Not when he gives up his toys, because I don't care about toys. Really, the part for us as real people and parents is when Andy and Andy's mom goes into his room and the music just drops and she says, Oh, Andy, and loses it. Yep. I got way dusty as well.
SPEAKER_01Well, and he texted me at the time saying, and he was crying, and I'm like, oh crap, because I was not at the theater, I knew I was gonna see it at home, and I'm like, I'm in trouble. Because if you cried at the movie, I'm totally gonna cry.
SPEAKER_00That was ugly crying for you and uncontrollable sobbing to the part where it disturbed our children because it was that emotional. This one was for you as an observer, wasn't that okay? It was very emotional, though. Very emotional, yeah, and it had to for you to have that emotional response, it seems like it had to have the culmination of a tough week and a very tough afternoon, and culminating in this. Now, I didn't have such a tough afternoon, and I still thought it was very emotionally moving. Yeah, so it's a good movie, it's a really good movie, and it's one of those surprisingly good movies. It's like the I don't know, the lead up to last weekend, because this is not opening weekend, this is the weekend after, because we are adults and uh don't have all that kind of time. So we did not see the Barnheimer.
SPEAKER_01We did not, and you know what? I'm glad. I think I've been too much. I think I would have been in depressive state at that point. Absolutely. It's not like it ends on a bad note, but you're so thoughtful about it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you can say, you can see if you saw Oppenheimer first and then Barbie for like a palette cleanser comedy technique, you would you would be morose, possibly. Yeah, a lot of people did and probably had a great time and don't think about these movies like we do in such a deep state. I'm not discounting that as validity, validity or not, but uh it could have been like, well, those are all white men doing that with very few women, and you would maybe get bitter about it. Removing those two together could give you a little bit more historical perspective about a historical figure, and then about a paradigmatic statement, which is Barbie. Yeah, Barbie is abstract, it is elucidating what women go through in a professional setting. Well in kind of a life setting as well.
SPEAKER_01In any setting, I really did like the aspect. So, for those of you, whether you played with Barbie or not, the Barbie the doll, um, they really do encompass, you know, they fixate on one Barbie played by Margot Robbie, who is the stereotypical Barbie, but they have all these other kinds of Barbies in there, which it's I love that they did that because it's like, yeah, you're demonstrating like all the different kinds of Barbies that were introduced through the doll, through Mattel, but it's like they're all supposed to be this ideal, and I really did appreciate that because everybody's gonna have a different ideal based on your background or like how you got into Barbie or didn't. Um, I will say, if you're a mom of a daughter or daughters, especially if they're like teen or tween, that one there is a line right at the end that that's what sent me over the edge. Oh my god. So I'll be interested. I might go, I might see it again. I'm certainly gonna see it again. Um, it's very good movie, it's well done. I want to get in more into that, but yeah, let's get into that now.
SPEAKER_00Let's do it. Because the it's heavy and it is something that is um yeah worth talking about.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00It's a it's a w Greta we're not gonna talk about that so much because it might bring up too much memory and it might detract from just a little bit of movie critique that we're gonna talk about here. Yeah. Uh we're going to compare this to Oppenheimer, because that's the last movie we saw. And the Barbenheimer thing was a thing.
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SPEAKER_00Yeah. And Barbie didn't decimate Oppenheimer, but it definitely was Warner Brothers' biggest opening weekend of all time.
SPEAKER_01I mean boom. By the way, eat that AI anything. Hold on. Dude. Let me finish. Go ahead. Can I finish now? Yeah, sure. Can I finish? Sure, go for it. Go for it. Are we going to ice cream? Shh. Anyway. That's what I thought.
SPEAKER_00Um uh it beat out Dark Knight, it beat out all of those, and it's also the highest grossing, I think, opening weekend. If not, it's the third highest for a woman-directed film. But it might be the highest one there. It made tons of movies, tons of money. It worldwide, as of last weekend, made just about as much as Tom Cruise's Dead Reckoning, which we didn't do one of these for Dead Reckoning, uh, because we just decided to pick this back up. We want to win. And um it's a better movie than Dead Reckoning is, frankly. Uh I agree. Yeah, it's not as good a movie as Oppenheimer, but it's also more emotionally moving at a personal level, where Oppenheimer's existential insofar as like, well, if something happens, the world might just end. In actual terms, you know what I mean? This one is uh take a look at how you are treating your moms, your sisters, your coworkers. It's a more grounded level situation, and it's by all means a really, really good movie. Yeah, uh, I do have a couple critiques. Go for it. Will Farrell phoned it in. Yeah, it was it was his worst performance since bad skits on SNL.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I've and I I agree with you because I'm like, I've seen him where because he does so I think of the Lego movie, and I did have had people say, like, what is he just like a show, like he's gonna be the bad guy in all the toy movies now? I'm like, well, whatever. I think of him in Lego movie where it's a complex delivery that he gives you. You're like, okay, you are kind of the force that, but it's you know, there's a lot to it, there's a lot of context, and there's arc there, there's depth. I didn't feel like there's any depth to this character, and I don't know if that's intentional, and was that him or was that the way they directed him? Um right, it did for like it was a placeholder. Yay, it's Will Farrell. I honestly think there's at least 10 other actors who could have just done the same thing he did, and it wouldn't have been any different.
SPEAKER_00So we're to spoil the land anyway. Spoiler land next to Barbie Land. Yes, next to Hollywood Land, yes, next to G.I. Joe land, um Disneyland. Yeah, right. So he is the head, oh in the wrong lane. Uh he is the head of Mattel, CEO, and in a boardroom that's all pink with like hearts on the top, whatever. Um very stylized, you know, representation. Very huge, you know, conglomerate whose main focus is to make money. Yes. Mattel is a business, it is not a ministry, it is not a philanthropy, it is not a uh they're a business. They want to make money. That's why they make Barbie is to make money. Yes, stop. Can we do women empowerment? Can we do all those other things while making money? Sure. But it they is to make money. And they don't shy away from that. Um there's a few lines in there that like, well, that's gonna make us a lot of money.
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SPEAKER_00Let's do it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so he makes a decision to be like, okay, we'll go that direction. Otherwise, he was gonna be like, no, we're not doing that unless he had learned it was gonna make the money.
SPEAKER_00So he's a CEO. Good point. He's surrounded by white men. Obviously, that was a choice, instead of having diversity in a boardroom, which Mattel probably has that now. Um, I hope so. Like, hey, everybody's gonna go look at their boardroom now and be like, I'm pretty sure Mattel's boardroom does not wear black suits in a pink hearted room, uh regardless of the diversity.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, don't throw stones from glasshouses.
SPEAKER_00So it's definitely a situation where it was stylized. And so he's the CEO of a bunch of men controlling Mattel, which has more than just Barbie. Let's be honest about this one. They're not the Barbie company. Barbie's probably their main Dollar Gitter or their highest brand, but there's other Mattel toys. I couldn't tell you anything at the moment because I'm driving and trying not to wreck.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we're not gonna Google that right now. That's why it's called the Car Home. Car Right Home. So there you go. And his performance is pedantic. Yeah, it was it didn't it didn't add anything, in my opinion. It was like, oh neat, there's Will, and that's it.
SPEAKER_00None of his lines were funny. Nope. And it was supposed to be funny. Like, he wasn't the straight man, he wasn't the uh dude that oh, you think he's funny, but he's actually playing a like you said, a deep complex character. Straight, you know, just for no laughs, super serious. He was being extra silly at times, and it it did work.
SPEAKER_01I well, and I'm gonna take issue with that too, not with what you said, but with the fact that that was played as like this, it's really a nothing character. Like, there's very little impact that that character has on the Straline, which I I'm kind of like, why though? I mean, I feel like they should have given that more weight because it absolutely has weight. When you have boardrooms that don't have diversity, you know, you hear about we I always talk in marketing circles, particularly, like, okay, well, you can tell who wasn't in the room where it happened when they made a decision about X, right? Or not Twitter X, but just fill in a blank.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But um, but yeah, I feel that that was an opportunity. They didn't have to go cra you know over the top about it, but it it to me it felt like they're kind of like, eh, you know, whatever, we're kind of kind of um skating over, skimming over the fact that, you know, hey, there's a white old man in a boardroom, and he just doesn't really have a whole lot of impact on this situation anyway. And you're like, uh, excuse me, he actually does. And many times, always in many scenarios on for many multimillion corporations that can help actually drive different societal things. So yeah, it was a little bit more important than I think to have him be like, eh, just kind of like act it out.
SPEAKER_00So it was way too generic, and yeah, what I think could have brought a lot more gravity to that role is that a prostitute. Lord.
SPEAKER_01Um, or she's going to see Barbie. I don't know, dude.
SPEAKER_00Dude. Anyway, uh No, she's holding his hand, so maybe not.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. What do I know? Maybe they are. I don't know. We're we're driving on culture. Don't even say it! Don't say it! Although I don't I not the couple I would have anticipated of being together, but maybe. Some maybe that might have been a poster.
SPEAKER_00Lady of work and that's one of those fun things you get on the ride home. Um that's definitely a homeless person. Uh there's a lot of them around here. Yeah, unfortunately. What the CEO role needed was empathy for his position.
SPEAKER_01Or just be outright fullbore evil.
SPEAKER_00Right. Pick one. Either one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00This was neither. This was milk toast, this was cardboard cutout. It could have been literally a blank cardboard cutout and it just says CEO on it, and then the lines were in a thought bubble. It was, it was the performances were that bad.
SPEAKER_01Well, and and I there's a point in there too, like see Ken is having his own kind of revelations when they get in real world. Well, we'll get to Ken here in a second. Yeah, but you see a scenario where there's like uh a white old dude, older dude, and he has a female assistant, and he just brushes her off to the side because he's having man talk with the you know powerful men. And I'm like, okay, well, that's more than we got from LoFerr. Because like even America Guerrero plays his assistant, and at the end he's like, oh look, it's you know, he calls her at some point, what does he call her? Executive papers person.
SPEAKER_00No, my word.
SPEAKER_01Executive executive words assistant?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, words assistant, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Which, yes, because that's often how he's.
SPEAKER_00We needed to have sympathy. We needed to have an evil character like Tom Cruise and Tropic Hunter. Travel Clear is a lot of problems. But you know, Tom Cruise was not one of them. He was an evil film executive type guy, right? That's who we had to have. Tom Cruise would have been amazing in this, quite frankly. Because he's amazing in everything. Because he's Tom Cruise and it sucks. Um such is the one. But you needed that level of gravity for that role.
SPEAKER_01Now, again, for those of you who listen are listening and have seen it, you can totally disagree. Maybe it was like, okay, maybe it was a choice because a lot of the focus on this is on Barbie, stereotypical Barbie, and how she is like reacting to, oh my gosh, we we haven't changed the world for the better for women. You know, and and realizing all that.
SPEAKER_00And I will say addressing the problems of the Barbie fish out of water. Well, no, the the Barbie zeitgeist, the uh unattainable beauty, the those things, those are really attaining the high heels. Like I don't feel comfortable with my heels on the ground. Like it address those in a very real way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, I don't know about y'all. I'm I'm 48 years old and I pretty much forsook um heels about two years ago because A, I had a I had bunya a bunionectomy surgery, and B, I just don't like them. And I wear chucks. I I honestly have been like, I'm gonna wear chucks on stage or for professional stuff, and if you don't like it, well then you must not want my brain. And and again, that's that's what I've decided and what has worked in my particular circles, but you know, it's not a plus. Yeah, we're not gonna be able to do that. There's all those kind of norms.
SPEAKER_00Being a historian, high heels were as fashion and royal men were invented for uh French men.
SPEAKER_01For short Frenchmen.
SPEAKER_00Well, no. No, it was just for men. Uh because most French men were all the same height anyway. Um it's definitely a uh situation where the CEO stuff could have been harder hitting to the corporate world. We're never finding a place to park. There's a lot of people down here. Jeez.
SPEAKER_01Well, it's Friday night. I know, but man, there's like it's like there's a c an event.
SPEAKER_00We're in the Sobo neighborhood of Denver, and um this is how it is on Friday night.
SPEAKER_01South South Broadway. Now it makes me think of Soda Sopa. South Park.
SPEAKER_00There's okay, for every situation you can imagine in pop culture in your life right now, there is probably a South Park episode that addresses. Probably. But we're not talking about that now. No. Done with the CEO thing, it was a huge detraction for me. Not just a uh Huge? Yeah, huge. Okay. Um not just a it could have been better. It's a it should have been better. And it was so bad that every time he was on screen, it brought me out of the movie a bit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I didn't I didn't get that. I was like I kept I'm like Why why is he here? What's going on? So I do feel like, but to me, I'm trying to translate that too to be like, okay, there m there was more weight she wanted us all to pay attention to on the Barbie through line America, Guerrera, and her daughter. And I so okay, I'm gonna go to that that direction. I I really liked so in the movie they focus on, and by the way, Weird Barbie is gonna be my next cosplay.
SPEAKER_00Weird Barbie's awesome. Oh my god, I kind of I don't know who even played her.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, I need to look it up. I couldn't recognize it either. I'm like, is did is this pink? I couldn't tell. It was not pink. It's not pink. Um I need to go look it up. And if you're on IMDb right now, you're probably yelling at me right now, but we just left the movie. So um Weird Barbie is amazing. My favorite. And uh, but America Rare and her daughter, and I really liked the way it changed. I know. You and pedestrians do not mix. Um hey, this has got crumple zones on it. But they so the plot line is that okay, Barbie's feeling off, and she needs to go to reality and connect with the person who plays with her. And of course, you assume this is a a girl, a small girl, young girl, whatever. And you find out it's not. And it was a girl, but it took her mom kind of took it over because her mom remembers and loves Barbie and took over playing with the dolls, and she is the one projecting. This adult woman is projecting what Barbie is feeling, why she's feeling off, and not Barbie S. And I loved that. Oh my god, and I just feel like that made the movie again as an adult woman who is a mother and who was so into Barbie. Y'all, I would tie Barbie up on my railings. Barbie was all her life was always in imminent danger. Oh, there's a concert. I see. There's a concert. Yeah, we're gonna walk past that. Um, so it's not gonna find out. It definitely made, I mean, that was that targeted me big time. So it it it was much more. I get if little young girls go there, but I think the adult women, anyone who's played with Barbie in the past, or particularly if you've done it and you you're a mother of daughters. Um you're going or or sons, you know, anyone who's a kid who you've kind of infused Barbie into your history. Um, yeah, that one, that one, I was like, oh my god, it's it's the adult, it's the mom. And so that that that's like, oh my god, okay, I'm done. I'm going to be crying the rest of the movie, pretty much. So but that said, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so you mentioned earlier, derided Will Farrow enough.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Uh it's definitely affecting my score for the movie, his performance. That's how bad it was. In my opinion. That is my opinion. Opinion? Um the uh Ken character of Simu Lu.
SPEAKER_01Ryan Gosling. Right. Oh, and uh yes. Yeah, no, they had all the Ken's and all. Yeah, they were all Kens.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was Simu Lu. I did not realize he was in it. I didn't know that either. Went in uh to this movie as d dark as I could. Uh not knowing yeah, there's some sort of concert thing going on. We're not finding our place to park. Um It might be, yeah, it's kinda interesting. Um, we can go somewhere else. We don't have to go to Sweet Action. Okay. You bastard! You bastard!
SPEAKER_01Like someone just parked in a spot where like No, he's getting out. Well oh, and you can't get over? I guess not. Yeah, he'll be gone. Ah It is the Murphy's Law, it is the way of things.
SPEAKER_00I know. He's just got out and I kind of probably parked it. Traffic coming now.
SPEAKER_01You are Boo from uh Princess Bride.
SPEAKER_00That's my daughter would say. Yeah, it's just this is insanity. Uh this level really busy down.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's great. Good for them. Good for every little businesses.
SPEAKER_00But going back to Ken, his character has an arc. Yes. Is it like Barbie's arc or is it the arc you want? Is it like the best thing, you know? It is not. And nor is it supposed to be. Okay, so it's Barbie and Ken. It's our mention in the movie. If you've seen it, you know, it's always Anne Ken. I'm like, yeah, so his arc reflects that. It's the Anne Ken arc.
SPEAKER_01I was gonna ask you about that. Like, obviously, we're going in as a man and a woman seeing this, and it's very much about like women power and stuff, but there is an acknowledgement about patriarchy and uh how Ken as a man finds his significance and how it's not based in his relationship with Barbie, which again just points the finger how st a lot stereotypically a lot of women find their significance in their relationship with their man. Also or a partner.
SPEAKER_00People find their significance in their relationship versus being a person in a relationship.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Ah, that guy's blind.
SPEAKER_01But this I don't know, those guys are sitting there. You're right, this just may not be the spot for us to get ice cream tonight.
SPEAKER_00This is a spot to party, and guess what? I am old.
SPEAKER_01There are there are a lot of people out having good time.
SPEAKER_00Sounds like a good time. Yep. Go home and you know, well, or get ice cream.
SPEAKER_01Drink him on door. Can I get ice cream though? Thank you. I want some ice cream.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, probably a spoon banger.
SPEAKER_01That's fine.
SPEAKER_00Sweet action is a local place. Get some sweet action, make their own ice creams there, and they always have good flavors. Yeah, they're always kind of uh did not realize there was a festival in this neighborhood though tonight. Yeah, there's I thought it would be hard to find a parking space. People were looked like they were walking from six blocks away.
SPEAKER_01There's no parking.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's no there's people walking literally from five blocks.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so this was that's their night. Tonight is your night, bro. Yeah. That was their night down there. We will go elsewhere. Which is bang. It is fan.
SPEAKER_00But key his performance as Ken, who has a realization that he was just downtrodden, like a lot of women had the realization as well, yeah. Um in society, and then goes to a place where he's not downtrodden. He goes to the real world where it's ruled by men, and he can sense it. Talking about Marlowe Robbie's character is talking about I have this underlying sense of danger and violence as people look at her body, and you're like, Right. Yeah, because she's Marlowe Robbie. Well, she's a good one. She probably deals with that in real life.
SPEAKER_01She's a woman and deals with that in real life. All of us women do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, us dudes, not so much. Yeah. Unless you go to the certain clubs, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but it's much more predominant amongst women. The burned down. We're looking at uh 476 South Broadway. Burned down. It looks I don't recognize it. It looks new. Is it newish?
SPEAKER_00Looks awesome, actually. Um not hungry. I had like all the popcorn, so I am not here. Yeah, I'm not either.
SPEAKER_01I had two, so they and if you go to Alamo, they do have like what's called a pink stiletto, except they were out.
SPEAKER_00They had go figure every show was all week.
SPEAKER_01And I was fine with that, but I did order a mezcal margarita a watermelon mezcal margarita, which was pink, and I I was very sad. I could order two, let's be honest. Um, so yeah, I I thought that them the experience you see Barbie have and the experience he can have was a really good side by side where you're like, okay, one person's entering a world where she's not the boss and she's not in power and she's being objectified, whereas the other person's like, Well, I'm the boss in this world. I like this feeling, you know. It was good, it was a really it was good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she didn't want to lose her place of power, but then she wanted to be real at the end. Obviously, we saw this. And Ken just wanted to not be um ignored. Yeah, every night was ladies' night. You know, there was a time before prohibition. Again, here's a little history lesson. Yeah, before prohibition in Colorado, because Colorado enacted prohibition before the nation did, also gave women the right to vote before the nation did. Yes. Um in the state before they couldn't obviously do federal voting. However, uh, Wyoming will say they were the first ones, but they were a state that gave women the right to vote in order to double their voter registration numbers to be more appealing to become a state for Washington, DC. Colorado was the first for white men because black men couldn't vote, black women couldn't vote, um and Colorado gave the vote to women. White women, but still women, it was a step. Um Ken's role was secondary to Barbie, as it should be, like we were saying to Barbie and Ken. But uh Ryan Gosling's performance was equal to Margaret Robbie's. Yeah, oh they were both great. They were both great. Yeah, uh, they just nailed what their emotions were supposed to be, they nailed what director Greta Gerwood feels like what she wanted.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um they were tremendous, really.
SPEAKER_01I loved um, so there's a whole sequence with the Kens at the end, and they kind of do a song and dance number. And I promise, like if you see it, I hope you agree. Um, I'm pretty sure they were all like singing and dancing as themselves and not even as Ken. I think they were just laughing their way through because like, oh my god, this is so silly. And I love pink socks, black outfits, it was awesome. It was great. Um, that was really good, but yeah, I agree. I think um she did a really well good job. There, oh man, there's so many good and I one of my co one of my uh team members had said, you know, she she said this kid this isn't really a kid movie, and I get that.
SPEAKER_00It's not it's not a kid's movie, it's not, it's not not a kid's movie either.
SPEAKER_01It's it's there's so many adult themes in it. That it's all go over their heads.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it won't go over their head. It's not talking down to children. No, like a kid's movie might, but it's also safe for kids to see.
SPEAKER_01It is, it's safe. There's no, you know, there's no rando Oppenheimer sex scene suddenly where you're quoting Hindu or and stuff like that. But um, no, it I agree. I think there there are, and they're like, I think, you know, right away you start like just noticing it's very meta, and you like, oh, got the subtext of that, got that. Even like Ken saying, like, I only I only feel good when Barbie Barbie notices me, and I'm like, oh my lord. And that's that's not how and babe, you know. I mean, I I was crushing on you back when we were first starting to get together, and yeah, I'm like, when you notice me, I'm like, oh my god, I feel so good about myself, you know, and so it's so relatable.
SPEAKER_00That's that's well, that's a new sign for good times.
SPEAKER_01That is, and it's blink. That sign for link.
SPEAKER_00There's nothing for good times because it's that new. Um little digression there. But his performance is great. The yeah uh Antillary characters uh of Ken's were like my wife saying, like we were saying, it's just looks like they were just having a great time.
SPEAKER_01Was that Matt was that Matthew O'Deen?
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I swear one of the older Kens they have, like up in a brief blip, I'm like.
SPEAKER_00No, no, it's the dude that plays the uh in Star Trek Voyager that steals Dax's symbiote. Oh whoever that guy is. He's a bit player, character actor, who's been in probably 300 different projects. He's a successful actor. But I can't remember his name, and he's been at a lot of things, cannot remember his name, but he was that guy, um, Jaron, not Jaron, Julia his name was um for you, Star Trek geese out there. Uh Helen Mirren was awesome as the narrator.
SPEAKER_01She was.
SPEAKER_00If you wonder why she got paid for her seven minutes worth of work, uh wow, it was such a small little part, but it was.
SPEAKER_01Rhea Pearlman, what a great cameo.
SPEAKER_00Playing Ruth, the uh inventor of Barbie, who, by the way, since we just left Denver and went to a suburb, literally just dropped there, uh, was infected here in Denver.
SPEAKER_01Yes, as are many things. More things than you might like to admit. Denver is a home place for many things.
SPEAKER_02Truth.
SPEAKER_01No, it was I that yeah, and of course, I love that infusion. And I agree with you. Margot Robbie, um, I I was thinking that through the movie too. I love the choices she's making. She reminds me a little bit of Ewan McGregor, where they're choosing these roles that definitely play on like their strengths. Like, I know, you know, she knows she's a beautiful, blue-eyed, blonde, you know, fit woman, but she's choosing these kind of these more complex, off the beaten path roles that I'm really digging, and so I I like her a lot.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's one of her best performances of her career for sure. Yeah, and she makes Barbie complex because she makes Barbie human. You can only be complex if you're human, or you can't be a complex toy, because we're all humans, and this is all about representing our humanity and giving us a mirror of who we are. And she does a great job of that. She does that, she makes you look at yourself, probably makes women look at herself as I'm not a woman, so you know, I mean, I can't say that, but she does great. So I'm we're getting here where we're gonna have to go get some ice cream. Yeah, I'm gonna rate it at eight out of ten rollerblades. That was that's the I'm low-hanging fruit, sometimes is the tastiest.
SPEAKER_01It's a good one. Um, I'm gonna rate it a nine out of ten. Um, I've got a drinking problem. Because that's what that reminds me of.
SPEAKER_00So mixing two movies here, but that's awesome. Uh definitely works for this movie as well. Uh the high heels thing, going through the discontinued weird Barbies that they had throughout history was amazing. Yeah. The pinkness of it was extra pink, so I'm okay with that.
SPEAKER_01If you wear pink, you're gonna be right on track.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're gonna be fine.
SPEAKER_01I wore the only pair of pink, the anything pink I have, which is a pair of pink capris, so I wore those and I felt right at home.
SPEAKER_00I did not, I could have actually dressed just like Will Farrell.
SPEAKER_01Um you could have, you got the pink tiny.
SPEAKER_00But I did not. I wore uh maybe some questionable clothes on purpose because you know that's how I am.
SPEAKER_01Uh go see it, it's good.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I would definitely recommend it. Next week we'll do something else maybe for this, but we'll have a car ride home for something in a few weeks. For you guys that are listening to this, or for me, because I'm probably the only one listening to this. Uh we will have a um recap of back Red Rod.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I like the fact that the car ride home Yeah, it's mostly gonna be movies, but something like that.
SPEAKER_00The bet one will be a three-hour special because it'll take us that long to get out of the bringing out.
SPEAKER_01And I'm gonna go have some ice cream now because you know what? My husband knew that's what I needed after seeing that movie. And it's true. Alright, have a great night, everybody. And uh enjoy the Barbie and hope you enjoy this on the car ride home. Follow, subscribe, do all the things. Goodbye.
