talkPOPc's Podcast
talkPOPc (Philosophers' Ontological Party club), is public philosophy + cognitively-engaged art nonprofit founded by Dr. Dena Shottenkirk, who is both a philosopher and an artist. As a topic-based project (we are now on our fourth) talkPOPc sponsors one-to-one conversations between a participant and a philosopher (who always dons our amazing gold African king hat, along with our mascot Puppet!) These conversations are consensus-building conversations and feed back into Shottenkirk's related artworks and published philosophy. The conversations become collaborative acts of making both philosophy and art. Thus, each topic - #1. nominalism, #2. censorship, #3. art as cognition, and #4 power - has three "pillars" the associated artworks, the published philosophy book, and podcast conversations. Various philosophers participate (see our website talkpopc.org for the list of philosophers) and these conversations happen in various places. For example, we go into bars and have one-to-one conversations. We sit down next to the deli counter and hold a conversation with someone who has walked in to get a ham sandwich and walked out knowing so much more about their own thoughts. We go into the MDC prison in Brooklyn and have conversations. We set up in galleries where the artworks and the philosophy are also displayed. And we listen. Here are some of those conversations.
Change happens when people talk.
talkPOPc's Podcast
Episode #139: Resident Philosopher Dena Shottenkirk talks with art critic Sean Tatol about power, Wittgenstein, & looking at art
Timestamps:
- 00:10: Introductions
- 02:20: Power as it relates to art criticism. Kant, Wittgenstein, and the grounds of objectivity
- 05:50: The crisis of criticism. Speculative investment in the art world.
- 11:00: Standards, economic interests, and changing the way we look at art
- 13:00: The economic pressure to succeed
- 14:00: The Art World and building thought together
- 15:00: Culture vs Economics. The value of "frivolity"
- 19:15: The resuscitation of "looking." Dedication to Art, despite the margins
- 26:30: The fundamentals of creativity: Understanding the scope of the present and crafting difference
- 29:00: False repetition as a consequence of derivative art.
- 33:00: The desire for novelty
- 40:30: Perceiving the mind of the creator and yourself
- 45:45: The faith in your own intuition. The ability to judge goes beyond Art