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<v SPEAKER_00>We're in a series.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've been in a series in Mark for almost two years, or excuse me, for about a year and a half.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then we'll it'll take about two years to get through it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The Gospel of Mark.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But it's titled He is Good because Mark is trying to tell that story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He wants to talk about the goodness of Jesus to Christians in Rome that are undergoing persecution and trying to figure out is Jesus actually good?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Mark is saying, He is, in fact, very, very good.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so we've been going through this, and the teaching text for today comes from Mark 9.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're about to finish up Mark 9.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Mark 9, verses 42 through 50.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this is what Mark writes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to enter into hell, where the fire never goes out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where the worms that eat them do not die, and the fire is not quenched.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everyone will be salted with fire.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Have salt among yourselves and be at peace with each other.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is the word of the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Nice easy text for a Sunday.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I do think that there's a message here for us today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Back when my grandfather, my granddaddy, was sick with cancer, he went to the doctor, like everybody does.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the doctor said, hey, first thing, you have to quit smoking.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, stop that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then you need to get on chemotherapy and radiation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the doctor told him, like, you need to begin those things almost immediately, just so you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, if you go through as you go through chemotherapy and radiation, he said uh it will really destroy parts of your body.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like it's just gonna really be painful in some spaces.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's gonna hurt, you're gonna lose your sense of taste, which did end up happening.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's gonna affect your muscles, your organs, you're gonna be nauseous a lot.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, it might change your moods, and it did change his moods because it's affecting your hormones.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, it'll make you tired, you won't have any energy, and you will likely, if it doesn't work, you will likely die from the chemo or the radiation more than the cancer itself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's what the doctor said to my grandfather and my grandmother and everybody in the room.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, what was interesting is that no one looked at the doctor and all the hard things that he was saying and was like, you're being real mean, and they didn't get their feelings hurt.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like they didn't do any of that because everybody understood the doctor was actually trying to be kind and addressing an issue in my grandfather's life that's like, look, I know something you don't know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You're dealing with something that you don't fully understand, and so I'm gonna tell you some hard things that maybe you don't want to hear, but I'm gonna tell you some hard things that you need to do in order to try and take care of you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, and unfortunately, my grandfather did pass away on his cancer diagnosis.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, but I say all that because I do think that there's this space when you read some of Jesus' words and some of the things that he says, it's easy to be like, that's outdated, or that's irrelevant, or those are really hard things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I think in many ways, Jesus is doing here what the doctor was trying to do with my grandfather.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was trying to actually say, Hey, I you're dealing with something that you don't fully understand.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You're dealing with something really dangerous.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I'm gonna say some hard stuff, and I'm gonna talk about some hard things, but I'm gonna do it in a space of kindness, not as a way of punishing you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I am gonna talk about hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna talk about chopping things off, but I'm not doing that to hurt you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm actually trying to do that to help you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I think Jesus is doing the exact same thing here as he talks about some of these things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so, what I want to do today is I want to look at this extreme practice that Jesus is calling us to practice, this extreme practice that he gives us, why he says that we should practice this extreme thing, and then a couple of things he says about just the nature and reality of being a follower of Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so the first thing that he says, this extreme practice that he gives us, this is what he's saying.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus says, practice making it, this is the first point, practice making it physically impossible to do the things that lead you away from God into sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You need to have a regular practice in your life of seeking to make sin physically impossible for you, to where you can't actually press into it, even if you wanted to, because the desire's there, but you're just unable to do it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You need to have a practice, a common thing in your life of if your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Make it physically impossible when it comes to sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Make it physically impossible for you to actually press into those things that lead you away from God and into sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so the idea for us would be for the hand, just this slide here, if you were to consider for the hand, you would ask the question, what are the things that you do?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What are the things that you do that lead you to sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so if you consider this, it's like, are there ways that you use your time?

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<v SPEAKER_00>The things that you do with your time, are there ways that you use your time that cause you to sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Maybe it's your work, maybe it's your hobbies, maybe it's just laziness and procrastination.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What do you do that leads you into a space of sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what Jesus is saying is like, cut it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Figure out how to cut that off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Make it physically impossible for you not to sin in that way, make it that difficult.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How do you spend your money?

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<v SPEAKER_00>We do that with our hands, credit cards, phones now, everything.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How do you spend your money?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Does your hand cause you to live above your means?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Does the way you spend your money lead you into greater and greater debt, even though we're not supposed to get into debt?

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<v SPEAKER_00>How do you use your phone?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Texting, scrolling, posting, not spending time with your family because of what is in your hand.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus is like, cut it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Figure out a way to put it out in a space where you cannot actually do that thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Are there ways that you use your hands that hurt people or hurt yourself?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And again, Jesus is just saying, He's like, if there is, as you consider the way that you use your hands, if your hand is causing you to sin, figure out a way to make it physically impossible for you to sin in that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he says the same thing with the eye.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Ask the question what is it, what do you look at that leads you to sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Is it TV?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Is it social media?

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<v SPEAKER_00>TV and social media can lead to greed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You just you just see things that other people have that you want envy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I just see something that they have and something that they're doing, and it leads you to want that thing, and so you're envying after that thing, which then leads into a space where you choose to chase down that thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It leads to discontentment.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I look at this thing and I become discontent with my own life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus was like, pluck it out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Stop looking at it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Make it impossible for you to look at that thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's leading you to sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Pluck it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's not saying it literally, also, I probably should have said that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's not literally saying chop those things off and do that stuff because you can still sin even if you don't have your limbs or your eyes or whatever.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But he's saying, do whatever it takes to where that thing no longer comes in front of your eyes, so that doesn't lead you to envy, sin, lust.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What do you look at that leads you to sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Watching the news.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Watching the news leads people to fear and anger and hatred.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Stop it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus is saying, literally stop it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some of y'all, if you're you know old enough or whatever, you remember that Bob Hope, I can't remember that dude's name, but he did that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was a counselor, he's doing a Bob Newhart, he was doing that counseling thing, and his whole counseling was stop it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like that was his whole thing, like, oh, you're doing that?

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's terrible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Stop it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that was his whole thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus is in some sense going, like, if you can stop it, some things, like your mind, you're supposed to take it captive, it's hard.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But there are some things that you can physically make it impossible to sin in that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so if you watch the news and whine, you leave and you're hateful and it ruins your joy, and it did not make you thankful, but worried and fearful and condemnatory, and you're just like, I just hate everybody, and they're the pro like, stop doing that thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus is saying, make it physically impossible to where you cannot do that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What about your foot?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where do you go?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where do you go that seems to always lead you into sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so for some people, this is like the store.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like every time I go to the store, all I want to do is buy more stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_00>For some people, it's on our phones, it's the Amazon app.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Delete the app.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You've got to make it impossible for you to sin in that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>For some people, it is, like everywhere you go is social media.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You go into a space of social media, and again, it leads into a space of sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>For some people, it's your work.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Every time I go to work, I come home.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm a terrible husband, I'm a terrible father because of my job.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You gotta figure out what's the greatest sacrifice that you actually want to do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You want to sacrifice your children?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You want to sacrifice your marriage, or you just want to just leave this thing that's causing you to sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>For me, I have to be careful who I spend time with.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um if I spend time with people who complain a bunch, I start complaining.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If I I mean, I Rainey knows this, I've left coffee shops uh with people or different organizations where I would sit there and she's like, You come home and you're really angry.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, I think I'm shaped by the people that I'm around.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think I hang out with angry people and I become angry.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I hang out with discontented people and I become discontent because all we talk about are the things that are wrong in the world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I have to be careful who I hang out with because I'm like, I don't want to be that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm a pretty happy-go-lucky, joyful person most of the time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like half cup, cup, half full, kind of that's I'm optimistic in that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so if I hang out with people and they're not that way, I struggle.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm a pastor, I'm supposed to hang out with everybody.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It gets difficult every now and then.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Most of the time, I send them to Andrew.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Andrew's a uh a full cup, there's no half.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's just it's just pure joy through and through.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He can hang out with those people who complain too much.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But where do you go?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where do you go with your eyes, with your feet?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where are you where are you led to that causes you to sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus is saying, He's like, look, I'm not saying like, ah, just work on it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's going, chop it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Figure out a way to get rid of it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Make a practice consistently of removing things from your life that lead you away from God and what he wants from you and lead you towards sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The most common way inside the church that people deal with their sin, there's normally two, deal with sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>One is some people just say, Jesus forgives my sin, and so I'm gonna sin however I want.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He loves to forgive sin, I love to sin, let's just move forward.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like that's sometimes what people say.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this attitude, if you have that attitude, I just want you to know that just shows that you're not truly a believer in Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have believed a false gospel that is not available for you to believe that and actually be a follower of Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because the truth is, if you believe the true gospel that Jesus sacrificed his life, bled, died, and was crushed on the cross, you would then receive his spirit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The spirit would be anti-sin and would fight against sin and struggle against sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so the fact that anybody would call themselves a Christian and, like, I don't struggle with my sin at all, I would suggest and say, you don't have the spirit of Jesus in you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You don't have anything in there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You have just your flesh.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so anybody that would say that, mostly working in student ministry, students would say that all the time, like, so Jesus forgives all my sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, yes, he forgives all your sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And they're like, so I can just go do whatever I want.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm like, no, that's not how that works.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because no one would treat somebody they love that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>No one would say, I know Rainey won't leave me if I cheat on her.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so uh, I'm just gonna roll out and just cheat on her as much as I want because she'll always forgive me and take me back.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If I actually loved her, I'd never treat her that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so anybody who actually genuinely loves Jesus would never say, You forgive my sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, it cost you your death and you bled and were cut and bruised and beaten and spit on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Cool, cool, cool.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm just gonna keep rolling in this pathway because thanks for the forgiveness.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like no one would do that if you actually believe that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so anybody who says that type of thing, I'm like, you're not actually a believer in Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The gospel hasn't taken root in your heart.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You do not have the Spirit of God inside of you, which is the seal proving that you're a Christian.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so you don't have that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The second way that people normally deal with their sin is the indefinite struggle.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just on the struggle bus, just struggling, constantly struggling with it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've made an idol out of struggling.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How's your sin life going?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Struggling, just struggling with it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How's lust?

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<v SPEAKER_00>How's your deal with porn?

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<v SPEAKER_00>How's this up?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Struggling, just struggling.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think there's truth to that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like we will struggle against, we will fight against sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But this idea that like I will just struggle with temptations with no growth, I will struggle with sin with no growth, no maturity, that doesn't exist in the scriptures.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's not the antidote.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, how do I deal with sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just struggle the rest of your life and just keep rolling that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, that's not what the scriptures, you can't find that verse in there because it doesn't, that's not a way of remedying your sin, just a constant battle and never actually moving forward and things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus isn't saying that here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's not saying keep struggling indefinitely with your sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, chop it off, pluck it out, stop this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You're still struggling because you won't do what I said.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You won't actually make it impossible for you to do that thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The reason the struggle still exists is because you still like it just a little bit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He is saying, chop it off, cut off the problem area.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's making it to where you struggle and make it to where I don't even have that option anymore.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you struggle overspending, give your money to someone else so that they can run it and take care of it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Let them do your budget.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's the financial freedom thing where it's like just use the dollars in the envelopes thing, and when it's gone, you don't have the ability to charge anything on a credit card.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Chop your credit cards up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Chop it off.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Get a roommate if that helps you live in your singleness and you need somebody to help you with your purity or just your loneliness or your depression.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, just get them into a space where you have somebody else there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some of us need to leave old friends, old relationships behind.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some of us need to get different phones or at least give the permissions of your phone to someone you trust that can actually control those things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Rainey has access and permissions and locks on my phone in so many different ways because I don't want to struggle with sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't want to press into those things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I want somebody there to help me because I know I'm like, hey, in my flesh, I will fall to these things and it will ruin my joy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I just don't want that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I'm not doing it because I'm fearful of like what God's gonna bring into my life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Punishment fell on Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not doing it because I'm like, oh God, I'm gonna sin and now you're gonna hate me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not fearful of that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I just actually want to experience the fruits of walking in righteousness, and I don't want to be have everything in my life broken up and stolen by sin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some of you need to cancel your social media.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some of you need to stop watching certain shows and stop watching the news.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Some of you might need to be leaving a job, be willing to leave that job for the sake of those things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't know, but the point is what Jesus is saying, he's like, I have a practice for you, Christians.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you're choosing to follow me, make it a common practice where you look at your life, you notice sin, and you do whatever it takes to make that sin physically impossible for you to press into it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's a very hard saying, but that is what he's saying.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's not saying there's no grace when we struggle, he's not saying that because clearly there is grace when we struggle, and actually bow down to some of those things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But he is saying, calling you to do a hard thing, calling you to chop it off, chop it off, and pluck it out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's not calling us to struggle forever.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All right, so that's the first thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How are we doing?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>We okay?

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're good?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I know, it's heavy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I would talk, I wrote in here, like, tell a funny story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't have any funny stories.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, but I would say something to make it a little lighter.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But um, Jesus goes hard on this because of the next thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why is he so hard on sin?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then he tells them why he's so extreme about this in the verses 43, 47, and 48.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, It is better, and I chopped up the verses, but it is better for you to enter life maimed than to have two hands and to enter into hell where the fire never goes out.

00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.279
<v SPEAKER_00>It's better for you to enter life crippled than with two feet and be thrown into hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell where the worms that eat them don't die and the fire is not quenched.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so he's so extreme on this practice of chopping sin out of our lives because sin leads to hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's what he's saying.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sin leads to hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And just a quick caveat because we're in the South, and many times you start talking about hell, and people can get this reverberate, like these old memories of like pastors uh preaching hellfire and brimstone and the whole thing and trying to scare you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you need to remember, Jesus is is talking to his best friends.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like he is not preaching from the street corner, going, You're all gonna burn if you don't turn.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like he's not doing any of that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It is a conversation between Jesus and 12 of his closest friends, that he is just describing a reality.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's not trying to scare them into believing in him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They already believe in him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he's not sitting there like, I'm gonna scare them into heaven.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's not doing any of that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's just genuinely going, Hey, I just want to tell you guys something that's true about sin.

00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:23.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And he begins talking about a reality, not trying to evangelize them, because preachers take this and they're like, Yeah, the fire doesn't go out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's something that'll preach.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then they stand up and they try and scare everybody to choose Jesus and like to turn from all these different things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then they get a ton of people at the altar, but Jesus doesn't do that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like he's not, he's not sitting there, he doesn't, like, I don't even know those old hymns that they just as I am, he there's no altar call after this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's not like you're all gonna burn, so you better turn right now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everybody walk up front, and we're gonna burn our CDs and our posters, and like he doesn't, none of that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like he really, what he's just saying, he's talking to them the way that like Rainey and I have talked to Teddy about hey, when somebody picks you up from school, make sure you know it's your parents or your grandparents.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Never get into the car with a stranger.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's like, why?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't understand.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then we would, you know, tell him to some extent why he shouldn't get into a car with a stranger.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like Jesus is talking like that, the way that maybe you had kids that started driving and you talked to them about the dangers of driving that like they don't understand.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They're just excited to drive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But you start speaking something into them that they don't fully understand.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus is doing that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's talking to people he loves that already believe in him.

00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:29.119
<v SPEAKER_00>He's going, look, I'm not trying to scare you into something, I'm trying to let you in on a reality that's true for you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sin will burn your life to the ground.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that's what he's addressing here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I just wanted to say that real quick.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He is not trying to scare them by talking about hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He is genuinely trying to inform them about a reality.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so he talks about hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>One of the commentators, Mark Strauss, says this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says the word translated hell is Gehenna.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the Greek form of the Hebrew word valley of Hinnom.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This was a literal valley that lies on the southern side of the city of Jerusalem and was used as a city's garbage dump.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In the most apostate times of the Old Testament, it was the site of human sacrifices to the pagan god Moloch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As the place where human excrement and rubbish, including animal carcasses, were disposed of and burned.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The fires of Gehenna never went out, because they were constantly burning stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So that the name came to be used symbolically to represent the place of divine punishment, where the worm, where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That is an allusion to Isaiah 66, 24, which speaks of eternal punishment of those who have rebelled against God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so what Jesus is doing is he's so extreme about cutting sin out of our lives, because he knows sin leads to us experiencing hell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sin leads to us experiencing unending destruction, where the fires that could burn your life down will not stop.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sin doesn't just take, I'll just take a little bit of that person's life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's a fire that will roar through your life and take everything.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where the worm doesn't stop eating away your joy, your peace, your hope, your love, all those different things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where everything is just burned down or eaten away.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so he talks about, Jesus talks about this in two ways.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And next slide here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He talks about this experience of hell in two ways.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He talks about experiencing it now, here and now, and then the experience of eternity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He talks about entering into it now, and then something that will be thrown into that sin's going to be thrown into in eternity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I want to take these one at a time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Here and now, when we sin, Jesus is so hard on this because when we sin, we are entering into or we are inviting hell into our life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're inviting unending destruction into our lives.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Any and every sin invites and opens the door to continual destruction over and over and over again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so unfortunately, in my role as a pastor, I experienced this a lot.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And actually, this past weekend I was at this church, saw a ton of people I hadn't seen in so long.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And uh it happened three times.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I walked up to a guy and I was like, hey man, I heard you got married.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, Yeah, I'm divorced.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, oh my gosh.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's like, but I got remarried.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, great, he's like divorced again, though.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I was like, ooh, over two.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then I saw another guy walking in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, what's up, man?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So good to see you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>His wife used to work in the student ministry.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, Where's where's joy?

00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:16.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh we're divorced.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, I'm gonna stop asking this question.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I am 0 for three.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm asking, like, did everyone get divorced when I left?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, what happened?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh and then I was talking to another dude.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, well, and then and those I eventually asked, like, dude, what happened?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, what took place?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it was always something really small.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Always.

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<v SPEAKER_00>One of them, it was like, oh, it was just my selfishness.

00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:42.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, I just I was just super selfish.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Made some selfish decisions and she wanted out, and that was it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Another one said, What happened was something super small.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was just a conversation with a co worker when I was at an argument with my wife.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just one conversation with a co worker when I was in an argument with my wife.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like that led to a text, which led to Hiding and deleting some texts, which led to discontentment at my home, then to a dinner, then to an affair.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, and then it blew up my marriage, it's affected my kids, and it's still affecting me today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's a terrible decision.

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<v SPEAKER_00>One conversation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus is going, like, hey, just so you know, I want you to chop it off because sin doesn't stop burning.

00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:23.759
<v SPEAKER_00>Like it will just continue to roar through your life all the way through.

00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:25.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And you're not like, oh, it's a controlled burn.

00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:27.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I'll just burn a little bit here, then I'll have it stop there.

00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:29.759
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's like, yeah, that sounds fun.

00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:31.759
<v SPEAKER_00>It does not work that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It is unending fire that will continue for the rest of this life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It will continue to burn and take and steal and eat away.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Another guy said that he was talking about just some decisions that he made with his life and suicides and stuff like that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I was like, what happened?

00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:55.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And he was like, uh honestly, he was like, it was just a little bit of porn.

00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:59.200
<v SPEAKER_00>It just started like just a social media came out and it was just a little bit of porn.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And somehow it got into my mind, affected my emotions and affected everything.

00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:04.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I became addicted to it.

00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:10.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I made some decisions that made me hate myself and the shame and the guilt and the shame and the guilt and the shame and the guilt, and I didn't want to live anymore.

00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:14.160
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's like just a little bit of a thing, just a touch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I've seen that happen with unforgiveness.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Leads to people breaking relationship off with another person, and then it leads to that person poisoning other people against that person, which then leads to bitterness.

00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:38.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Then every conversation becomes about that person, even when that person isn't around, which leads to you to you losing relationships around you because they don't want to be around you, because you're so bitter and you're so just spewing venom about a person that you haven't seen in 10 years.

00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:40.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Just watch this thing happen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it just continues to take and take and take, and unforgiveness just locks them into a cell where they're by themselves, enslaved to unforgiveness.

00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:49.440
<v SPEAKER_00>I've seen it with envy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All it is envy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I just want what they have.

00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:54.559
<v SPEAKER_00>I just want to live like they do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like, is that so hard?

00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:56.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, we're the same age.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like I should live exactly the way that they do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then it makes you discontent with what you have, it steals your gratitude.

00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:08.079
<v SPEAKER_00>You don't even see the blessings in your life as being blessings anymore because you still don't have the thing that you want.

00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:20.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And then it leads to living above your means, buying things that you can't afford, living in debt, and now you're frustrated and irritated, and your family's struggling because you can't afford to do the things that are just normal stuff that you need to do.

00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:22.559
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm just watching this thing happen.

00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:27.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And so Jesus is looking at this thing and going, here and now, it when we sin, it is not a controlled burn.

00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:31.440
<v SPEAKER_00>It moves into your life and it destroys and it ravages everything.

00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:35.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And there's just this unending fire that burns things down in your life.

00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:38.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he's like, please cut it off.

00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:43.839
<v SPEAKER_00>You might sacrifice a hand, or you might like, I don't, I didn't get to watch that show.

00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:48.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's like, yeah, but you might save your marriage, or you might save your joy, or you might save this thing.

00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, there's so much more that it will take from you than it'll actually give.

00:24:53.039 --> 00:25:08.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And this is why Jesus is saying, amputation seems radical, but it will actually save you from the pain of experiencing what sin can actually do, because it invites hell into your life, and hell is not tame, and it is not neutral.

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.519
<v SPEAKER_00>A lot of people just think sin is just bad.

00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:13.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus doesn't like it because it's just bad.

00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And he's like, No, you're inviting hell into your life.

00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.400
<v SPEAKER_00>You're inviting unending destruction into your life.

00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:19.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Please cut it off.

00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:24.000
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm trying to be kind to you the way a doctor would say something to a patient, like, we gotta cut that tumor out.

00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, ah, I really like it though.

00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:29.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Cut that out.

00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:30.480
<v SPEAKER_00>It will kill you.

00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And it will kill the things that you love.

00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Solomon says that sinning is like scooping fire into your lap.

00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:39.599
<v SPEAKER_00>It's a pretty vivid imagery there.

00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:41.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Like you will get burned.

00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.359
<v SPEAKER_00>And in places that matter, you will get really burned.

00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.359
<v SPEAKER_00>You're inviting fire into your life when you sin.

00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:50.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I am not just Paul.

00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:52.240
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not trying to scare anyone either.

00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:53.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm just, this is the text.

00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:54.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And I think Jesus is trying to be kind.

00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:56.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And again, he's not evangelizing a group.

00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.119
<v SPEAKER_00>He is talking to his friends and going, I love you.

00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:01.119
<v SPEAKER_00>You 12, I love you.

00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I want you to know, I need you to go tell the people that you love.

00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:06.000
<v SPEAKER_00>It'll ruin your life.

00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:09.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So sinning here and now invites hell into our lives.

00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:16.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And then for eternity, it's not just here, but it's also that sin will destroy and becomes an eternal reality for us.

00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:28.640
<v SPEAKER_00>So Jesus is so extreme about getting rid of sin because he knows, Jesus knows, and this is important, Jesus knows sin will be thrown into hell, an unending fire of damnation one day.

00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:29.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Sin will be thrown in.

00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:31.200
<v SPEAKER_00>He knows that.

00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:37.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Hell was not made as a punishment for people, it was made for Satan, his angels, and sin and death.

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.279
<v SPEAKER_00>That those things would be thrown in one day to no longer harm anyone.

00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:52.720
<v SPEAKER_00>The issue is if you refuse to remove sin from your life, if you don't want Jesus to remove sin from your life, when hell, excuse me, when sin is thrown in, you will go where sin goes.

00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:54.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he never tosses anyone.

00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:56.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm just so happy to chuck some folks into hell.

00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Like he's not skipping them across a lake of fire.

00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:04.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Like he's sin will go there one day, and he knows about a reality that we don't fully understand.

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.799
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, one day there will be this ultimate punishment for sin, not for people.

00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:17.519
<v SPEAKER_00>But if sin is still connected to the person and you don't want me to remove that from you, then you will go where sin goes.

00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:18.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And so this is why he's extreme.

00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:24.319
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, I don't want, I don't want Teddy to be picked up by a stranger and like taken wherever and abducted.

00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:25.359
<v SPEAKER_00>I don't want him to do that.

00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:34.160
<v SPEAKER_00>So I'm gonna tell him things that I hope that he will get into his mind and his heart that shape him with a healthy fear, not a fear of like you should be afraid of every person in a car.

00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:35.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Not that.

00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.000
<v SPEAKER_00>But like you need to understand something that's dangerous.

00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And so Jesus is trying to do the exact same thing.

00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:48.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And so many pastors and so many people, and no offense to any of them, but they can take this and they use this as fear-mongering to try and get people to do whatever they want them to do.

00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:55.200
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's wrong because what it's done is it's diminished the actual message of Jesus going, out of love for you, I'm trying to tell you something that's difficult.

00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.960
<v SPEAKER_00>We do this with people that we love.

00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.079
<v SPEAKER_00>We say wonderful things and then we warn them about dangerous things.

00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:01.599
<v SPEAKER_00>That's what love does.

00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:08.240
<v SPEAKER_00>And so what he's seeking to do here is just go, like, look, I'm being extreme, but I'm being extreme because the dangers are too great for me not to tell you.

00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:13.359
<v SPEAKER_00>The most loving thing that I can do is tell you, just know, this is dangerous.

00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:22.559
<v SPEAKER_00>One time Teddy was, I'm some of y'all have heard this story, but we were doing work in our house, and uh there was a live wire of the thing had fallen out or whatever, the switch.

00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:28.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And Teddy was just gonna go touch it because he was two or three, and it's hanging from the wall, and like it's red.

00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:32.799
<v SPEAKER_00>I don't know why they'd make wires red and yellow and green, and they look like toys.

00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:38.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he's walking up to the toy in the wall that's gonna kill him and electrify him, electrocute him.

00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:44.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Um and like I'm in the kitchen, and he's walking towards this thing like a moth to a flame, you know.

00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And I and I just shouted from the kitchen.

00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:48.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, don't touch it.

00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:53.359
<v SPEAKER_00>And he freaks out, he starts crying, he runs up and tells Rainey that I was yelling at him, which I did.

00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:55.920
<v SPEAKER_00>But that's what good parents do.

00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.839
<v SPEAKER_00>They're not like just see what happens, bro.

00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Pull their phone out, like this is gonna go viral.

00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, no parent would do that.

00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:10.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, you would say, you would say something to stop your kid from doing something dangerous, and Jesus is going, I'm trying to tell you something dangerous.

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And you need to know because it's cruel for me not to tell you.

00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:21.200
<v SPEAKER_00>And so he's extreme to say, cut it off, because here and now you will just invite unending destruction into the things that you love most.

00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.920
<v SPEAKER_00>You will think sin will actually make this better and it won't.

00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:25.680
<v SPEAKER_00>It will make it far, far worse.

00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And many of you have experienced that in your own life.

00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.039
<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't just take, sin doesn't just take a little.

00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:37.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And then eventually sin will be tossed into and tossed into a space where we all want it to go.

00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:52.319
<v SPEAKER_00>We want this the people who've sinned against us, the way that they've hurt us, we want those things to burn for, like, not those people, some of us maybe, but like we're not those people, but like the thing that happened, that that that just pain that I feel, the abuse that people experience, like I don't want abuse to ever live again.

00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I want it to burn eternally somewhere.

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:56.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I want the sin to go there.

00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:02.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And God is gonna do that thing and send sin into a space where it no longer has any hold on us, where it can touch us in no way.

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:07.440
<v SPEAKER_00>The issue is if it has not been released from you, you will go where sin goes.

00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:13.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Again, not trying to fear tactic us, just trying to save us, trying to help us.

00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:13.920
<v SPEAKER_00>All right.

00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:22.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Last thing that Jesus does is he gives us three realities of being his followers, three realities of a follower of Jesus.

00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.119
<v SPEAKER_00>He says, Everyone, he talks about salt a bit.

00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:26.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Everyone will be salted with fire.

00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:31.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Salt is good, but if he loses its saltiness, how can it be salty again?

00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Have salt among yourselves and be at peace with each other.

00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Which if I were sitting there, I'd be like, bro, what are you talking about?

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.759
<v SPEAKER_00>Um and I read this to Rainey, was like, what text are you teaching on this week?

00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I read it to her, and she was like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I was like, I have no idea what I'm about to say.

00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.279
<v SPEAKER_00>So I, you know, obviously I studied on this stuff to try and figure out.

00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, and this is again, it's one of the most confusing ways to interpret it.

00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.400
<v SPEAKER_00>There are 12 different interpretations, so I have a mixture of some of that, okay?

00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:02.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus is, in my opinion, as I read this, Jesus is giving three realities of a follower of Jesus.

00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And so you can go to the first slide here.

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:06.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Everyone will be salted with fire.

00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:19.759
<v SPEAKER_00>What he's saying is, you need to know, you need to know that you will have, if you're following me, you will have to face certain things that cause you to chop off the arm, cut off the foot, pluck out the eye.

00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.400
<v SPEAKER_00>You will deal, you will be salted with fire.

00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.319
<v SPEAKER_00>You will deal with things or you will wind up in a space to go, what do I do with this?

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.039
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, this will be a common experience for everybody.

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.720
<v SPEAKER_00>You will one day have to deal with should I cut this off or shouldn't I?

00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:33.759
<v SPEAKER_00>This is coming for you.

00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:34.880
<v SPEAKER_00>It's actually coming for everybody.

00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:41.519
<v SPEAKER_00>There are things in every single person's life, whether they follow me or not, that you should face the fact, should I cut this off or should I leave it?

00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.039
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, this is coming for you.

00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:44.400
<v SPEAKER_00>You do not get a say in this.

00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:48.079
<v SPEAKER_00>If you live in this world, you will battle sin and you will be salted in this way.

00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.119
<v SPEAKER_00>It'll be a part of your life.

00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:56.960
<v SPEAKER_00>The second thing he says is that salt is good, but it loses its saltiness, and how you can make uh if it loses its saltiness, how can you make it salty again?

00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.640
<v SPEAKER_00>What he's saying here is he's like, don't make peace with those things.

00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:02.799
<v SPEAKER_00>He's shifting the framework of salt.

00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:10.160
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, you'll be salted with fire, you'll deal with something that you might need to chop off, but don't lose your the uniqueness about you.

00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't make the peace with things in your life like sin.

00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't lose the uniqueness about chopping those things off.

00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Other people just live with sin, destroying their lives.

00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:20.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Not so with you.

00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:28.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Those things are meant to purify you, to make it to where you experience sin, you chop it off, and now your life is more pure because you've chopped it off.

00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:36.079
<v SPEAKER_00>But if you lose the uniqueness about you, if you're if you lose your saltiness, then those things are just happening in your life and you're just like everybody else.

00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:40.799
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, you're supposed to be an example to the world of like, look what he wants to do in a life.

00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.279
<v SPEAKER_00>He wants to remove things from our lives that hurt us, not keep those things in.

00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:46.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And so don't lose.

00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:49.200
<v SPEAKER_00>What he's saying is don't make your peace with those things.

00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't lose your uniqueness about you of removing those things.

00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:55.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Never settle for those things being in your life.

00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:59.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Continue to remove those things, chop them off, pluck them out as they come about.

00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And then he says, have salt among yourselves and be at peace with each other.

00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.680
<v SPEAKER_00>And what he's saying here is he's saying this is a friendship one.

00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.160
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, you need to help one another.

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.000
<v SPEAKER_00>As a community of people, you need to help one another.

00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Have this among yourselves.

00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:17.519
<v SPEAKER_00>You cannot fight sin and chop off sin and deal with those things alone.

00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:21.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Help one another to stay salty, to stay unique.

00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.960
<v SPEAKER_00>To do this by yourself is to do this and fail continually.

00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:29.359
<v SPEAKER_00>You need the community of the friends around you, the people around you, to keep you going.

00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:30.079
<v SPEAKER_00>No, no, no, no.

00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Hey, that's taking, I see that sin taking root in your life and it's hurting you.

00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I want to help you deal with that thing.

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:41.440
<v SPEAKER_00>I want to be a space in your life that I'm a help to you actually removing that from your life.

00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:50.559
<v SPEAKER_00>So we need to see other people chop off and deny ourselves of certain things so that we would have the courage to chop off things in our lives too.

00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:55.920
<v SPEAKER_00>We need to see them sacrificing and going, look, I'm not, I'm not gonna watch that thing.

00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.279
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not gonna be a part of that thing.

00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.680
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not gonna go to that space, I'm not gonna do those things.

00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:06.079
<v SPEAKER_00>We need something in our life, we need to see other people do that, so that then leads us to have the courage to actually do that ourselves.

00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.800
<v SPEAKER_00>You need to hear that other people in your community are struggling with sin just like you are.

00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:15.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You need to know that so that you're not sitting there going, like, am I the only sinner in the room?

00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:16.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, am I the only one that struggles with this?

00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.840
<v SPEAKER_00>We need to hear from other people, like, no man, that's a real thing.

00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.239
<v SPEAKER_00>That's hard, that's challenging, it is a struggle.

00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:23.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Let's work on chop.

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.440
<v SPEAKER_00>How could we help you chop that off?

00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.239
<v SPEAKER_00>How can we step into that space to help you with that?

00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:33.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Followers of Jesus need one another so we don't burn our lives to the ground.

00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:35.039
<v SPEAKER_00>We need one another.

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:52.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And so this is supposed to be a community, it's supposed to be the church is supposed to be a space where you're like, I'm struggling today, I'm dealing with something, I'm walking through something, and we can confess our sins one to another and receive prayer from one another versus condemnation, and then we receive help to have salt among ourselves so that we can actually continue moving towards this thing.

00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Difficult passage, but I do believe that's what he's saying.

00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:56.639
<v SPEAKER_00>This is coming, this is a thing.

00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:01.840
<v SPEAKER_00>If you're like, I don't think I struggle with things I need to chop out of my life, he's like, everyone is salted with fire.

00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:03.840
<v SPEAKER_00>You do have those things in your life.

00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:12.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't lose your saltiness, don't make your peace with those sins, and then you will need the community around you to help you actually do this well, and other people need you.

00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And so, for us, a couple of applications and then we're done.

00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.760
<v SPEAKER_00>The first question is where do you need to stop struggling with sin?

00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:26.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And you need to make it physically impossible to not stumble in that way.

00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:29.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Where do you need to stop struggling?

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And where do you need to make it physically impossible to stumble in that particular way?

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Where do you need to follow Jesus in this practice in your life?

00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And just so you know, doing this will make your life harder.

00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.440
<v SPEAKER_00>It will not become more comfortable.

00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Having my phone locked down at 5 p.m.

00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:55.440
<v SPEAKER_00>every night, and then somebody does something on social media that I need to respond to for the church, and I'm like, I have to walk up to Rainey like a child, like, can you unlock my phone?

00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And she does it, you know, this whole thing.

00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's like, but I'd prefer that than the other thing.

00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:12.320
<v SPEAKER_00>I'd much prefer that than being addicted to something that steals my intimacy with her, that steals my fatherhood with Teddy, that where one day he walks up and grabs my phone and sees something he shouldn't see, and then it affects generationally his life.

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:18.800
<v SPEAKER_00>I'd much have rather have that than ever butcher his life because he saw something on his dad's phone.

00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:24.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, I'd anyways, it will make your life harder, but it's worth it.

00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:26.320
<v SPEAKER_00>It will make it more difficult.

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.719
<v SPEAKER_00>There are conversations that people bring up to reigning me.

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.519
<v SPEAKER_00>You guys watching this show?

00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:33.679
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like, no, sorry, my husband can't watch that show because it has naked people in it.

00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:36.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's true.

00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:39.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, I don't need that in my heart, I don't need that in my life.

00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:39.599
<v unknown>I don't mind.

00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.719
<v SPEAKER_00>You know what never happened in a room of 3,000 last week.

00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:15.679
<v SPEAKER_00>We live on a budget, and we've talked to our therapists this past week about budget counseling and all these different things because we want to make sure that we don't that we don't live above our means, that we're not that our greed and our discontentment doesn't lead us into a space where it actually ruins Teddy's future, ruins our future, or it makes us not be as generous to the church and the people of this world that need the love of Jesus in their lives.

00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And so we we hinder ourselves, and I'd much rather be using that money on vacation.

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.119
<v SPEAKER_00>No, we don't.

00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:37.679
<v SPEAKER_00>It will make life harder, it will make life more difficult, but every sacrifice will be worth it because what is the the the o the other opportunity is unending fire that destroys and takes and takes and takes and takes and takes.

00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And so it will make your life harder, but it'll be worth it.

00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:41.119
<v SPEAKER_00>But what is it for you?

00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:42.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Or do you struggle with sin?

00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.599
<v SPEAKER_00>That's like, I need to stop struggling with, I've made an idol out of struggling.

00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Like I'm just struggling for Jesus.

00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's like, are you doing what he actually said?

00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Chop it off, pluck it out.

00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And then, second and last, we need to trust him about this.

00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:02.400
<v SPEAKER_00>It's easy to be like, you know, Jesus is pretty hard on that stuff, really difficult on sin, really hard.

00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:03.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Is it really that bad?

00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:04.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Is it really that extreme?

00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:11.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And to me, I believe that we can trust him because he's not just warning us with our words.

00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:16.719
<v SPEAKER_00>If somebody warns you with their words, but they don't do anything with their lives, you're like, I don't, I don't know, I don't know if I trust you.

00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.119
<v SPEAKER_00>But Jesus wasn't just willing to warn us with our words.

00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:27.679
<v SPEAKER_00>He's like, hey, and just to show you that I'm gonna put my body where my mouth is, I'm going to die on a cross to actually free you from the grip of sin.

00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:28.400
<v SPEAKER_00>It's that bad.

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.000
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not just warning you that it's bad.

00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna lay down my life to ultimately separate sin from you so that you have an opportunity to escape it.

00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:39.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not, I'm not just saying hard words, I'm gonna do a hard thing to prove it to you.

00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And so, for instance, if somebody didn't want you to go into debt and like, oh, don't go into debt, it's a terrible decision.

00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't do that, you don't want to do that, don't want to do that, you don't want to do that.

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.000
<v SPEAKER_00>But and then that person's going, I just I have no other option, I have no other option.

00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.199
<v SPEAKER_00>For that person to say, warn you, don't go into debt, you don't want to do that.

00:38:53.360 --> 00:39:09.039
<v SPEAKER_00>But then for that person to say, and so that you won't, I will give you all the money that you need to cover it, that teaches you and at least uh ups the ante a little bit that, like, I think that person's really serious, that debt is really bad, and they're willing to pay$10,000 so that I don't have to go into debt.

00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:12.159
<v SPEAKER_00>It's maybe a bad example, but they're similar to what Jesus is doing here.

00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:16.159
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm not just saying it, I'm actually gonna show you by giving my life so that you can actually believe me.

00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Sin is that dangerous, and I'm willing to die so that you don't have to experience it.

00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And so for us, can we trust him in this?

00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:24.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I think we should.

00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.360
<v SPEAKER_00>We'll struggle with it and we'll actually deal with this idea of chopping these things off, but he's not lying to us.

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:35.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And so, in your struggle, if your struggle is to trust his words about sin, you can trust his sacrifice.

00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And so, for you, where do you need to practice chopping it off, plucking it out?

00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:50.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Not physically, literally, but to make it physically impossible for you to sin in the ways that you currently step into.

00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:55.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And then I promise you you can trust him because he was willing to give his life to actually separate you from that thing.

00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:56.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So let me pray.

00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Lord Jesus, will we believe you on this?

00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Thank you for being a friend that warns friends.

00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:09.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Thank you for being someone that doesn't just warn us but is willing to give his life to prove it to us.

00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Like, seriously, I'll show you.

00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:12.639
<v SPEAKER_00>It's that dangerous.

00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:17.440
<v SPEAKER_00>I want it out of your life, and I'm willing to give mine so that you don't have to experience it.

00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:28.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Would you give us insight into our own lives, our own marriages, our own relationships, our own singleness, jobs, careers, money, media, everything?

00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Would you give us insight?

00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:32.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Where do we need to chop it off?

00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:34.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Pluck it out.

00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Would you help us in Jesus' name?

00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:36.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Amen.
