WEBVTT 00:00:00.719 --> 00:00:01.760 Hey, what's up, everybody? 00:00:01.840 --> 00:00:03.359 Welcome to the cutting room floor. 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:04.000 I'm Justin. 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:04.799 I'm here with Madison. 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:05.440 Hello. 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:06.959 That was a very high-pitched. 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:07.759 Yeah. 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:09.919 I wanted to communicate joy. 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:10.560 There you go. 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:12.320 A mission accomplished. 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:20.640 If you don't know Madison, Madison is the youth pastor here at his hands, and he and I actually brainstorm the messages together on Mondays. 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:26.640 Madison teaches the junior high the same things that we are talking about in the big room, obviously with a different spin. 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:27.760 The junior high version. 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:28.879 The junior high version of it. 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:38.240 But it's actually been really cool because one of the things I think that that I've gained from us doing that together, number one, I really like spending time with you and you're developing in such a cool way. 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:46.159 Number two, if I can't, if I can't boil something down to the point that a junior high student can understand it, it's probably we probably haven't thought through it enough. 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.000 We probably need to spend more time. 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:48.399 Yep. 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:50.719 And so it's good to have that as a baseline. 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:53.840 But we do this, this is called the cutting room floor. 00:00:53.920 --> 00:01:08.640 And what this specifically is, is like a it's it's like a podcast within the podcast, so to speak, of stuff that didn't make it into the message because sometimes, in order to hit the right time on a Sunday morning, um, and believe it or not, we actually do that fairly consistently. 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:10.239 I mean, and no, it's like 80%. 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:12.560 No, look at my I believe you. 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:12.879 Okay. 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:14.640 I don't actually, it doesn't bother me. 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.359 I didn't say 100% I like hanging out with junior high students. 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:22.640 I think it's harder for the babies when they have to like be held an extra 20 minutes because you're just rambling. 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:24.560 You're just talking about whatever. 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:26.079 What is it? 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:27.680 Liam plays basketball or something. 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:31.200 I am not offended, but I'm close. 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:32.719 Because you just said, see, this is the thing. 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:37.439 When people say church went long, they everyone acts like five minutes is 20 minutes. 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:37.760 Right. 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:42.079 Because it's not, I cannot, when is the last time I went 20 minutes long enough? 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:43.599 Probably three years ago. 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:44.159 But thank you. 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:44.319 Yeah. 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.280 I think I've had one message ever that clocked it like an hour. 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:47.519 Yeah. 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:55.439 And so if you look at the messages from the last few weeks, consistently, it's like 40 minutes, 42 minutes, 41 minutes, 38 minutes. 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.120 So like this whole 20, I'm not giving 62-minute long time. 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:08.479 But that comes at a sacrifice because we have to cut some some major things that would otherwise um be really important and be really cool to talk about that didn't make it. 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.199 So for this week, we we were going through the Sermon on the Mount. 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:12.960 I'm too offended to even finish this. 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:14.080 You don't even want to continue? 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:14.639 No, I'm not. 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:16.159 Sermon on the Mount. 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:22.240 Yeah, so a great way to put that is yes, we we could easily talk for an hour and a half about each of these because there's so much there. 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:24.000 This whole message could have been like six months. 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:24.560 Oh my gosh. 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:30.080 Yeah, so we don't have a cutting room floor for every every message because uh not every message a lot gets cut. 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:33.520 This one though, we could have we could have spent a month just on this one. 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:39.120 And we actually intentionally decided to go through the entirety of of really of Matthew 5. 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:43.680 Um we did the Beatitudes, the first part last week, and then we decided, let's just go through the whole rest of it. 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:57.680 And that was intentional, because number one, and this I didn't actually mention this in the message, but um so this is part of the cutting room floor, is that most of Jesus' teachings are we get like in small chunks, and then there's like stuff that happens, and then we get a little teaching, and then something happens. 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:02.879 And if if you read the gospels, that that's kind of the normal flow, except for the Sermon on the Mount. 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:10.719 This this three-chapter section of Matthew, it's the it's the longest uh uninterrupted chunk of Jesus talking. 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:19.199 And so I I think that it's actually important as we go through this not to like break it up and hyperfixate on the two words. 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:25.919 Because it's such a it's such a a unique thing just to be able to listen to Jesus in his own words for a long stretch. 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:36.960 And so I really was like, no, no, let's let's let Jesus just talk and and let's not let's not take each of these and break them apart because I don't think Jesus necessarily broke these apart. 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:38.800 Like these are they're connected. 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.599 Um Yeah, but there you have some splaining to do. 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:42.560 There is some splaining to do. 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:43.360 There is some splaining to do. 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:47.439 Well, because there's a lot of stuff here that Jesus is talking about that his original hearers would have kind of quickly understood. 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:55.280 And we don't we don't get, which is uh where which brings us to the first point uh that was cut off the message about the law. 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:55.599 Yeah. 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:59.680 Okay, so Matthew 5.17, we talked about this. 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:00.719 Jesus, I'll just go ahead and read it. 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:04.240 Uh this is 5.17 all the way through verse 20. 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:08.639 Um he says, Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.360 I've not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:25.920 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest uh sorry, I'm reading this like half sideways, so I have to change letter, I didn't change it, like shift it, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:33.199 Therefore, anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly, will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.879 But whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:44.079 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:45.439 So there's a lot there about law. 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:45.920 Yep. 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:46.800 Fun fact. 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:47.519 Fun fact. 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:49.680 Smallest stroke of the pen. 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.120 Some translations say iota or not a dot. 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:53.600 Okay. 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:55.759 Um, you know how you like dot your eyes? 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:57.199 That like has a name. 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:05.680 I don't know what the English name is for that, but the iota is like the the Greek or Aramaic or whatever it ends up being termed for like their version of the dot. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:06.879 That's what an iota is? 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:07.759 Yes, the dot of an eye. 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:13.839 He's like basically saying, like, not even the dot on an eye, like that little pinpoint thing will be will pass away. 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.439 So that's my cutting room floor explanation. 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:19.360 Well, no, you know a lot about this stuff too. 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:29.120 I think that where a lot of people will get hung up on this is like, well, I can flip over to Galatians, and Paul talks a lot about how we're no longer under the law. 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:29.519 Yeah. 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:30.879 So what is the law? 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:31.680 Law of the prophets. 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:33.040 Okay, so the law didn't make it in the message? 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:33.759 I listened to the money. 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:34.240 No, it didn't. 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:36.639 So let's just break this down. 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:42.480 Number one, uh, and by the way, if you're still listening, that just means you are really interested in Bible stuff, which is cool. 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:42.720 Yeah. 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:47.279 And we are not necessarily like authorities on Justin's not. 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:47.519 I am. 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:48.160 Oh, never mind. 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:48.800 Madison is. 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:50.800 But this is something we spend a lot of time talking about. 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:58.800 I mean, Madison, you and I have a unique relationship, and that I would guess um about 80% of what we talk about is just like Bible stuff. 00:05:59.040 --> 00:05:59.360 Bible stuff. 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:00.800 That's like our connection point. 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:01.680 That and sports ball. 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:03.199 You're a big sports ball fan. 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:04.160 I love sports ball. 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:08.240 Maybe home run on the grand slam in a hockey game. 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:08.720 I don't know. 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.439 Home runs and grand slams are a grand slam is just a type of home run. 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:13.920 Grand slams can happen in hockey, right? 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.879 No, there's tennis has grand slams, but those are just types of tournaments. 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:18.879 So what's the law? 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:19.519 Alright, the law. 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:20.399 Law and the prophets. 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:28.639 So when you when you read the phrase law and the prophets, or law or the prophets, that basically for us, for all intents and purposes, that's the Old Testament. 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:38.000 Um you've got the law, which would be the Torah, um first five books, first five books of the Old Testament, and then you've got uh then you've got like the writings of the prophets. 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:47.600 Um which were mostly like political conversations and commentary with some zoom out moments of like, hey, this is what the future holds. 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:55.839 But for the most part, it's like this this old school thing that they end up studying to understand their place in the world compared to other other nations. 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:56.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.759 These are the these are these are what they would have been reading in their synagogues. 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:01.920 And these are what you see Jesus quote all the time. 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:05.199 Like Jesus quotes a lot of scripture, a lot of Old Testament when he's when he talks. 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:06.800 You'll he doesn't even hear. 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.560 Um, in fact, this is kind of a fun thing, uh like a silly thing. 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:18.800 I one of the things I do is I actually copy and paste all of the scripture that we're gonna cover on a Sunday from Bible Gateway, which is a website. 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:20.639 BibleGateway.com has every translation you can. 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:30.639 So I'll take it, I'll copy it off Bible Gateway, I'll paste it into our mobile app because I I just that's where all the we put all of our scriptures in the mobile app so anyone listening along can can reference those. 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:35.759 Well, when you copy from Bible Gateway, what you're also copying are all the little hyperlinks. 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:36.319 Yeah. 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:38.160 Like the little like little D's and A. 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.959 Like there's little letters, and then you're if you're reading in your Bible, you'll see these. 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:46.480 You'll see like a little letter A, and then down below it's a little you know, reference point to oh, that's Exodus 20, verse 13. 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:46.959 Yeah. 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:52.720 Well, um normally I have to like I delete those from the mobile app because it won't hyperlink to anything. 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:54.639 It's just a letter that's there that means nothing. 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:55.839 So I take those out. 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:03.040 Um normally I have to do that a little bit, but this one, I'm like, oh my gosh, we're on like I was like on H, and I was like, no, I went past that. 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.639 It was like past O, and I'm like having to find all these little little letters. 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:08.160 So Jesus quotes a lot of scripture here. 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:15.600 So law and the prophets, for all intents and purposes, just Old Testament, specifically first five books, as well as the writings of the prophets. 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:26.879 Um I think you uh also were talking about like the way that was fulfilled or the the mechanism by which it's fulfilled, you kind of cut that out of the message too, or like discuss that discussion. 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:39.679 So the the law, when when usually you hear the word law talked about, you're talking about typically the law of Moses, um, which was a covenant that God made, like understanding who how God interacts with humanity, it's all about understanding covenants. 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:41.840 God makes covenants, promises. 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:44.080 Yeah, promises, and they're relational promises. 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:49.919 So marriage is a covenant relationship because it's a it's a partnering together, but there are terms. 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:55.120 Um and so, you know, when I married Megan, we made vows, and you married Hannah, you guys made vows. 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.919 And you have you now exist in a covenant relationship. 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.200 God has given many types of covenant relationships with people over history. 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:10.720 We we currently exist in what is theologically known as the new covenant, which is the covenant of Jesus, and that's a covenant of grace. 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.200 And really, that covenant still has conditions. 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:24.320 If you believe in Jesus, and if you place your faith in him, you will live in a relationship with God, and the Holy Spirit will join with your spirit to affirm that you're God's child. 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:34.320 There's some perks to that by like inheriting the spirit and giving the getting like powers that we otherwise wouldn't have, but there are also some commitments that follow through. 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:34.879 100%. 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.200 Um, every healthy relationship has boundaries, and covenants are no different. 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.240 So uh you've got covenants in the Old Testament. 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:47.120 You have the covenant, uh, well, he makes a covenant with Noah, you know, and he says, I will know I'll never again. 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:49.039 That one actually didn't have any conditions. 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:49.360 No. 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:50.879 It was just like, hey, I'm not gonna do that. 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:51.840 No, he's not gonna do that. 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:52.720 No more reboots. 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:54.159 When you see that rainbow, don't worry about it. 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:54.960 I will not. 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:56.879 I that's reminding me that I won't kill you. 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:58.399 But that is a covenant because it's a promise. 00:09:58.480 --> 00:09:58.559 Yeah. 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:00.960 But it's a promise that's that's out of a relationship. 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:01.360 Yep. 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.600 Uh there's the Abram, the Abrahamic covenant. 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:04.559 Uh how do you say that? 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:05.200 Abrahamic? 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:05.919 Abrahamic. 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:07.440 That's why I think that's what I said. 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:07.759 Yeah. 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:12.000 Um, so that covenant was really just based on circumcision. 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.960 That was like the only requirement of Abraham, which is a pretty intense requirement. 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:15.600 Sorry, Abraham. 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:17.919 When you're a middle-aged man, well, older man, actually. 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:27.360 Um but hey, if if you if you do this, if you set yourselves apart and so that everyone can see that you're different, I will give you a son. 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.919 I will I will bless you, you'll be the father of many nations. 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:34.320 And then we have the covenant at Mount Sinai with Moses and the people of Israel after they leave. 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:39.840 This is an Exodus, after they they've they've escaped Egypt, and that's what's often called the Old Covenant. 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:40.080 Yeah. 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:48.080 So there's more than two covenants in the Bible, all that was just to say, there's more that, but normally when we're talking covenant, we're talking the old covenant, Moses, the new covenant, Jesus. 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.960 The old covenant is also often called the law, because there's all these laws that are given. 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:56.799 And it starts with the Ten Commandments, and then it just builds off of that. 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:06.480 But the weird thing is, in the New Testament, it can almost seem a little bit schizophrenic because sometimes you have Jesus here talking like about the law in a positive light. 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:06.720 Yeah. 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:14.480 Paul does that sometimes too, but then other times, it's like the law's fulfilled its purpose completely and it's done, and now you don't have to do any any of it. 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:15.519 So it gives. 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:20.480 And so I like to think of it, and I think it's important to understand why those covenants exist. 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:20.799 Yeah. 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:25.360 I think of it like God is completely perfect, and I am completely not perfect. 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:34.799 And so for me and God to be together, He gave a way for us to be together in the original covenant, the old covenant, which was try to be perfect. 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:46.159 Like you have to live up to these rules, and when I couldn't, I could sacrifice an animal that would take on the death for me, so to speak, so that I could be with God and so that the priests could be in the Holy of Holies. 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:54.720 But now that that that aspect of it, that being with God based on performance andor killing an animal, that has been fulfilled. 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.360 And that's what that's why it's changed completely. 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:08.559 Yeah, so let's break let's break this down because this is actually really important to understand, and I think this is where, like, if you want to develop a deeper understanding of what your faith is actually about, these are things that you gotta you just kind of need to know. 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:20.240 So the way the old covenant worked, the covenant of Moses, the law, was all about reminding the people of Israel of their disconnect with God. 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.120 Like, God is holy, you are not holy. 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:28.080 Therefore, do not try to approach God in an unholy state. 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.480 If you do, it will not go well for you. 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:35.519 And I think that we we sometimes we can look at this stuff and they see it just purely in this like religious, superstitious kind of light. 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.360 But we actually have real-world examples of that. 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.559 I I always love the idea of like radioactive material. 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:46.080 So there are materials on the on the earth that are radioactive. 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:51.759 They are giving off an invisible energy that will literally destroy my body if I'm around it. 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:52.159 Yeah. 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.679 Unless I happen to be wearing like a special suit that protects me from. 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:56.720 In a special car. 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:57.120 Right. 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:58.480 In a special circumstance. 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:00.639 But literally, like even your own, even your phones. 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:07.200 Like they your phones give off radiation, and they test phones to make sure they're not giving off too much radiation because it'll like it'll harm you. 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:10.720 And so um, God, like, think about God, he's holy. 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:12.399 He is so good. 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:15.759 It's like his goodness, almost like like like light or heat. 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:17.679 You know, it's just his goodness will kill you. 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:19.279 It's you're you can't be around it. 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:20.960 It's too intense, it's too much. 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:32.159 And we're we the old law, what it established, and this is kind of like the big twist in the story, is that we thought the old law was was our means to right relationship with God. 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:35.919 But what what we actually find out through Jesus and through the New Testament is no, no, no. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:42.879 Actually, the purpose of the old law was to kind of get you to come to the end of yourself, was just to get you to realize that you can't do this. 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:44.159 You're gonna need help. 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:50.000 Jesus actually ends up lifting us to a place that we can never earn by following the law. 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:58.559 But it's almost like a few thousand years of people, well, not a few thousand, but like a thousand years of people having to try to do it on their own had to happen before people would finally raise up the white flag and go help. 00:13:58.639 --> 00:13:58.799 Yeah. 00:13:58.960 --> 00:13:59.759 You know, we're stubborn. 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:06.559 So the way the old law worked is you had all these laws, and if you broke a law, well then you were now like quote unquote unclean. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:07.360 Unclean. 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:20.960 Um so you have to offer an animal sacrifice to essentially make atonement to give the word punished for the way that you are unclean or impure to make up for that. 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:21.759 Then that's atonement. 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.080 I'm trying to like, we were trying to junior high five it. 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:24.559 No, no, no. 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:34.480 Mattis and I were laughing at this really like I actually a fairly obscure movie by this point, but it's called National Treasure, and it's got Nicolas Cage, and uh, and like he steals the Declaration of Independence. 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:39.840 And he's doing it all for like good reasons, and it's like it's it's it's actually a fairly fun movie, I think. 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:40.799 I just don't, it's been a long time. 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:41.279 I love it. 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:42.320 I watch it like once a year. 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:42.639 Okay. 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:48.240 So there's this scene at the end of National Treasure where the there's this police officer character, like Harvey Kaitel. 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:49.759 Harvey Kaitel, he's the actor. 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:52.159 He's this, like, he's the special agent that's after him. 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:52.720 Yep. 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:59.840 Well, he ends up like finding out, like, yeah, all these things that have happened, like you actually saved the world, so to speak. 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.039 You know, like well, well done. 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.279 Or not save the world, but you did a good thing. 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:03.679 Yeah. 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:05.360 But he's like, someone's gotta go to jail. 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:07.679 Yeah, he's like, someone's someone's gotta go to jail. 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:08.639 Someone has to go to jail. 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:10.399 Like, you there's no such thing as free lunch. 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:10.639 Yeah. 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:12.080 Someone's gotta go to jail. 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:13.840 And like that's kind of how atonement is. 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:15.279 It's like something has to pay the price. 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:19.200 There, there, there's sin, something, something has to pay. 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:25.919 And so the way it worked in the Old Testament is you would make an animal sacrifice, and that animal sacrifice would be an atonement. 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.440 Scripture says the wages of sin is death, that that sin can only be forgiven through the shedding of blood. 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:36.559 Now, we know that all of that was an amazing foreshadowing of the fact that the wages of sin is death. 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:38.799 Jesus paid those wages by dying on the cross. 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.600 The blood that was shed that covered our sin was his blood. 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:42.960 He's the final sacrifice. 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:52.879 So Jesus is that ultimate, ultimate animal sacrifice, but he completes it and fulfills it because he was also perfectly obedient to the law. 00:15:53.120 --> 00:16:00.960 And so it's like he understood the heart of the law, the spirit of the law, he followed those rules with God's intentions in mind. 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:01.200 Right. 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:05.279 And then also for us, because we couldn't do that, died in our place. 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.600 And that's where it's like Jesus died for your sins. 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:16.000 It's like the simple way that you don't often think about investing all of this time in understanding the sacrificial system. 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:20.879 But Jesus died for your sins is this atonement that has stretched back for thousands of years. 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:22.879 Yeah, that's one of the disconnects in our culture today. 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:27.759 If you just say the phrase Jesus died for your sins, someone might say, Well, A, I don't know if I have sin. 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:28.399 What is that? 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:30.240 But B, like, why do you have to die? 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:34.879 Because we don't live in a society now that, like, I mean, we kind of do actually. 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:36.159 It's just we have different sins. 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:36.399 Yeah. 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:40.240 Like if the sin is offending a certain group of people and then you're just like ostracized for it on online. 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:40.879 Canceled. 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:41.440 Canceled. 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.279 We live in canceled culture, you know. 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:52.240 But but but that was something that his the this group of people, they lived in this world of like sin, disconnect from God, sacrifice. 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:57.759 Yeah, they understood that that there was a price to be paid for the brokenness of humans. 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:02.960 It wasn't just like, okay, then be good enough to outbalance that time you lied. 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:08.240 It was like, no, I have to address that time that I lied specifically and with intention. 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:08.720 Right. 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:14.160 Um and this is where it gets really interesting because Jesus, he does fulfill the law. 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.799 He fulfills the requirements of the law by paying the price, by making us clean. 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:23.920 And he's not a he's not a goat or a dove or so he's he's the son of God. 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:30.720 And so it's not like we we no longer need to make a sacrifice every like his sacrifice was enough to cover all of us for all time. 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:39.359 But then you but then this was interesting in the rest of this, and we didn't go into this on Sunday because it's just it was a lot, but then you have Jesus addressing behavior. 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.119 Yeah, it's like almost like you're held accountable to the law. 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:44.400 Well, here okay, so here's the thing. 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:46.400 So he fulfilled the purpose of the law. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:47.519 Sort of. 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:49.039 And we're gonna get into this. 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.279 Um, it's accomplished, so we don't have to make animal sacrifices, Jesus did it, right? 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:57.200 But then he actually starts quoting some laws like don't murder. 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.680 And he doesn't say, Don't worry about that one anymore. 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:00.640 I fulfilled the law. 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:01.440 Go ahead and murder. 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:02.480 So murder people. 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:04.480 No, he's actually like, no, no, no. 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:07.680 He takes that, and now he we talked about on Sunday, he just raises the bar. 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:09.759 He's like, Don't murder, no, no, no, don't even hate anybody. 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:11.039 Don't even like call someone an idiot. 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:12.480 And then he goes, Don't commit adultery. 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:13.440 That's one of the Ten Commandments. 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:16.079 That was fun to talk about with uh junior high kids. 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:16.720 Oh, I bet. 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:16.960 Yeah. 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:17.759 How'd that go? 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:25.680 I just basically boiled it down to don't play inappropriate movies in your head that you know you shouldn't be playing, which I stole from Tim Mackey. 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:27.680 I still I also steal things from Tim Mackey. 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:29.119 Tim Mackey's a great, he's he's a good dude. 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:30.000 I like Tim Mackey. 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:32.480 Um I don't know him, so maybe if I met him, I'd be like, dude, Tim Mackey. 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:33.039 He's a jerk. 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:33.759 He's a real jerk. 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:34.960 He's punched me right in the face. 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:36.079 But uh slapped my face. 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:42.880 Actually, I gotta be honest, I can't Tim Mackey, if you've ever seen Tim Mackey, not someone I'm worried about punching me in the face. 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.079 Yeah, but like also, he's probably wiry. 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:47.119 He's like one of those wiry guys. 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:51.440 Anyway, um so here's Jesus, he quotes another another commandment. 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:52.799 He says this is another one of the ten. 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.000 The murder is a ten commandment commandment, it's a Mount Sinai law. 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.319 Well, here's another one don't commit adultery. 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:01.279 And Jesus doesn't say, hey, you know what, guys? 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.359 I fulfilled the law, so have yourselves a party. 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:07.920 Like go, you know, sleep around. 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.480 No, he actually says, no, no, don't even lust. 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:15.759 So I think behind that is he perfectly understands the intention behind the law. 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:27.119 And so he's saying, like, that was just a kind of a bare minimum to hope that you would act better than others, but this is actually what I meant, or what God meant when he delivered the law. 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:33.680 Yeah, and so this this gets into an interesting thing because later on we have Paul in the New Testament, um, well, let's even go before that. 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:38.960 In Acts, we have Peter who has this vision where there's this sheet in heaven and it's like let down. 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:39.920 Big old blanket. 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:51.519 And on all these animals that are animals that happen to be uh unclean animals to eat in the old law of Moses, because part of that law was foods you could eat and not clothes you could wear and you couldn't. 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.920 And and God is telling through this vision to Peter, you eat what, eat it, eat all of it. 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:01.039 And Peter's like, no, I've never I would never eat that because it's not it's not clean. 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:03.119 And he's like, Nope, I have to clean declared clean. 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:04.079 Plus he declared it clean. 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:04.480 Right. 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.000 Well, what now I can eat bacon? 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:06.319 Yeah. 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:07.200 And emu. 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:08.160 And emu apparently. 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:09.039 I've never, yeah. 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:10.319 Um, I've never had emu. 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:10.880 So I have an eye. 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.480 Maybe it's like the best thing I've just never eaten. 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:17.920 And then you have, you know, Paul talks about circumcision and how that's not required anymore, but that was part of the old law. 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:19.759 So so this is where it gets challenging. 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:20.880 How do I break this down? 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:33.359 Because I have Jesus here, who talks about fulfilling the law, but but also is like raising the bar on some of the laws given, not dismissing them, but actually saying, no, no, no, like even take it higher. 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:43.519 And then I have Paul or or Peter and other places in the New Testament who it almost seems like if I'm reading that, that the law doesn't matter at all, but then it kind of does, like, what is it, what is it, what's this all about? 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:51.440 And the best way I've ever heard it explained is understanding the difference between what is called the moral law and the ceremonial law. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:58.240 And so the idea of it is this the moral law, that's the stuff that's really all about two basic principles, loving God and loving people. 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:01.200 Jesus was asked once what's the greatest command in all of Scripture. 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.759 He says it's love God with all your heart, your soul, your mind, your strength. 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.319 And a second commandment is equal to that, love your neighbors yourself. 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:09.279 Which are both included in the old law. 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:11.039 Those are two quotes from the Old Testament. 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:13.599 Pulling those out and saying, these are the two. 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:14.400 Yes, hold on to these. 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:15.119 And it makes sense. 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:19.759 He says you can sum up all the law of the prophets, uh, all the all of that with these two things. 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:26.960 And if you look at the Ten Commandments, half of them are like between you and God stuff, half of them are between you and other people, right? 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:36.240 So, Jesus says, these two, these two, you cannot fulfill the the spirit of the law if you don't love God and love people. 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:37.759 That's the moral law. 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.319 That's just how to that that's living as intended as humans. 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.160 And then you have this other law, the ceremonial law. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:47.680 And the ceremonial law, that's the stuff like the washing of hands, which was like more of a scribal thing. 00:21:47.839 --> 00:22:02.559 Scribe the scribes, if you ever hear the the term scribes in the New Testament, the scribes were experts in the law, and their job was like to interpret the law for the modern time, and they would often Times add laws to laws. 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:07.119 But the ceremonial law did have to deal with that holiness problem. 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:07.759 Holiness. 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:08.000 Yeah. 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:16.079 Ceremonial law was stuff like if you if you touch a dead animal, you must go uh have a certain type of washing done so that you may be declared. 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:17.920 You're now if you touch an animal, you're unclean. 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:25.839 Now you have to do this to be clean again so that you can enter into like the the the you can live with everybody else and you can worship at the temple. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.000 If you eat the wrong food, you're unclean. 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:30.160 It was all this, that was all ceremonial stuff. 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.119 It was all ceremonial law was all about the phrase unclean. 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:33.440 Yep. 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:38.960 And it was really designed to show us that we kind of live in a perpetual state of unclean. 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:42.799 And in that world of thinking, the unclean thing has all the power. 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.119 Uh Ben Sykes, I don't know if he's the first one that ever thought of this. 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:46.799 Ben goes to his hands, awesome dude. 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:49.359 He talks about it like the idea of the fly and the soup. 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:54.319 That in in the Old Testament, the unclean thing has all the power. 00:22:54.640 --> 00:23:04.240 Because it's like if like if you have soup and you're eating some soup and a fly lands in it, you don't think to yourself, ooh, cool, uh, that fly just became part of a really good soup. 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:05.839 You're like, the soup is ruined. 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:06.079 Yeah. 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:10.319