WEBVTT 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:02.399 Welcome to another episode of Crash Course. 00:00:02.479 --> 00:00:03.759 I'm sitting here with Ben Sykes. 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:06.400 Ben's been with me for the last few episodes. 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:07.120 Hello. 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:08.320 How are you doing, Ben? 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:09.039 I'm still good. 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:09.839 Still? 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:10.080 Yes. 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:10.640 Okay. 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:13.679 Hasn't changed since I asked you that question like five minutes ago. 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:15.039 I do that at home a lot. 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:18.399 Megan gets annoyed with me because uh, well, for a variety of reasons. 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:19.359 Just checking in. 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:23.839 But I will say, I'll say the phrase, are you okay a lot to Megan? 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:24.399 Okay. 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:26.320 And she'll be like, Yes. 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:27.359 Are you okay? 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:27.760 Yes. 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:28.320 Are you alright? 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:28.559 Yes. 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:29.359 And she'll get really frustrated. 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:30.239 Like, why do you keep asking me that? 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:33.359 And what I've realized over the years is that the phrase, are you okay? 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:33.759 Yeah. 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:40.000 Has become like this blanket phrase where when I say that, what I mean is like all contained in that phrase. 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:41.520 Can I get you anything? 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:43.520 Is there something you'd like me to do for you? 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:44.079 Yeah. 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:46.000 Do I need to apologize? 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:48.079 Do I need to apologize for anything? 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:52.479 Is can I be it's like I just but my it out of my mouth is just, yeah. 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:53.280 Are you okay? 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:54.240 I don't know why I do that. 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:55.600 So I I guess I just realize I'm doing that. 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.000 You need to be a little freed from that, but that's okay. 00:00:58.320 --> 00:00:59.119 Yeah, I'll pray about it. 00:00:59.200 --> 00:00:59.359 Yeah. 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:02.000 Um well, hey, the last episode we did was a little longer. 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.239 We try to keep these crash courses nice and tight. 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:09.280 The idea is, you know, if you're driving home from work or from, you know, I want you to be able to listen to a crash course in one sitting. 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:11.120 So to make up for that, let's do a real short one. 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:11.519 Okay. 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:12.159 It was okay. 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:12.879 Not to make up for it. 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:16.640 Like, not that we think you're mad at us, because A, you don't have to listen to these in order anyway. 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:17.680 They're not really designed that way. 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:19.519 So we'd like to talk about Jesus. 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:25.200 We just talk, yeah, we do, and I apologize if it was 20 minutes and 50 seconds, not 17. 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:27.680 However, we've been talking about the church for the last few. 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:33.200 And what I intended to be kind of one episode of let's talk about the church turns out super loaded. 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.640 So we started with, you know, what is the church? 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:41.439 And uh the idea is the church is the body of Christ. 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:50.079 Essentially, it's it's the movement of Jesus in this world, it's every person who said yes to Jesus, doing the work of Jesus, so that the rest of the world who doesn't know Jesus can know Jesus. 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:54.000 Last time we talked about the mission of the church, like ultimately, what are we here to do? 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.040 Um, because I I've been in a leadership role in church for a long time. 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.359 It is easy to forget what we are here to do. 00:01:59.519 --> 00:01:59.680 Yeah. 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:01.439 We're not, are we here to entertain people? 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.799 Are we here to be Jesus' PR team to like rebrand Jesus to the world? 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:05.920 Like there's a lot of confusion. 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:06.480 No, no, no. 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:12.319 We're here to do what Jesus said to do, which is go and teach and baptize and experience the presence of God. 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:12.479 Yeah. 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:13.680 You know, know that he's with you. 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:15.759 That's from Matthew 28, the Great Commission. 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:26.479 Um, what I want to talk real quick really quick, and I think we can do this one even shorter than than a normal podcast because we've already kind of talked about some things that would have already answered this question in the last few. 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:35.599 But if I'm a person who has decided to follow Jesus, why do I need to show up physically present at a church gathering? 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.719 Like, in other words, why should I go to church? 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:39.199 Right? 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.120 I've I've given my life to Jesus, so I'm good. 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:44.719 I'm I'm like I know him, and I'm gonna go to heaven and all that's great. 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:49.360 And uh, you know, if the mission of the church is to teach and all these other things, well, I can listen to podcasts all day long. 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:51.759 I can there's a lot of people who watch a lot of church on TV. 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:52.319 Yeah. 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.960 Why do I as much as I can? 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:55.759 Yeah. 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:06.080 Because some of us, you know, physically there, there are things that can happen in seasons in life where you can't, but as much as I I can, yeah, why should I bother getting up early on a Sunday morning and going to church? 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:07.520 Yeah, wow. 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.680 So so many things you could say there. 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:19.840 I mean, kind of our default move that we that we repent of, like when we say repent, like we change our minds and try to live differently. 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:21.759 Yeah, we should realize, oh, I've I've been thinking about this wrong. 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:31.919 Yeah, like the thing that we change when we meet Jesus is we before Jesus we have this everything is like stiff arm, like we said in the last podcast. 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:38.560 Like our life plan is I'm just gonna protect myself from everything that might be messy or break me. 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:38.800 Right. 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:45.599 Or messy people, messy relationships, uh messy things, uh situations in life. 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:52.400 And when we meet Jesus, Jesus behaves so much differently, like we talked about with the mission of the church. 00:03:52.800 --> 00:04:20.160 Like he has so much courage, he doesn't have any any fear in embracing uh difficult people or situations, and he's so blessed as he loves other people that uh our life plan kind of begins to be turned on its head as we as we know Jesus and as since he's the head and it's his spirit in us, so we less have the life plan of I'm just trying to keep people away. 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:30.000 It's more like I just met somebody new and I'm excited to know them better and share Jesus and and worship with them. 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:40.000 And so as we know Jesus, we're kind of called into relationships with one another because there's a lot of joy in it, and that's who that's who Jesus is. 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:41.199 Does that make sense? 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:43.920 It's like the magnet doesn't necessarily push away. 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:50.800 Yeah, so I I think so uh one of the things I love about having you with me, Ben, is you and I just think so differently. 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:57.519 Yeah, I would never answer the questions the way you start to answer them, which is actually one of the reasons it's a great example of why why we should show up. 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:57.920 Yeah. 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:02.800 Um so I heard a pastor say this when I was in college and it's always stuck with me. 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:10.399 Yeah, that most people live their live their life with two priorities personal comfort and personal security. 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:10.879 Yeah. 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:11.279 Right? 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:11.680 Sure. 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:20.160 So most of the decisions that we see people making in the world, and and and I think that's really held up from what I've observed and and experienced, is will this add to my security? 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:21.680 And will this add to my comfort? 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:22.000 Yeah. 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:22.399 Right? 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:23.519 Because we don't want to be uncomfortable. 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:24.240 It's all about me. 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:25.600 And we don't want to be insecure. 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:33.759 And to a certain degree, there's people that we can't avoid, like there's people that you're related to that live with you, that and some of those people don't necessarily add to your security or comfort. 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:35.360 And so you already have to deal with that. 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:35.920 Yeah. 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:47.920 And therefore, strategically, when it comes to the relationships that I can choose and the experiences that I can choose, um, if it doesn't add to my comfort and it doesn't add to my security, why would I even choose that? 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.040 Because I don't have enough of that. 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:49.439 Yeah. 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:56.079 And I think it's really easy for a church experience, because part of what I'm sort of responsible for as a pastor is the church experience, right? 00:05:56.240 --> 00:06:02.959 Like at the end of the day, when I'm working on a preparing for a Sunday, we don't really think about it in those terms, we don't talk about it in those terms. 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:04.879 Like, what's the experience we want people to have? 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:10.000 But it's really easy to try to make church a personal comfort and security experience. 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:10.399 Yeah. 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:11.839 Almost like going to a movie theater. 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:15.199 Hey, you know, when I go to the movies, maybe I'm just a bad moviegoer. 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:16.079 I don't go that often. 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:16.399 Yeah. 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.519 But I don't like, I don't really meet the people that I'm in line with. 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:20.319 I don't talk to them. 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:21.519 We're all here to see the same movie. 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:22.720 I'm glad you're here. 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:23.759 Respect my space. 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:24.079 Yeah. 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:26.000 I'm so I got I got my seat. 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:26.319 Yeah. 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.199 Um, and I'm comfortable and I'm enjoying this. 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:31.040 And I'm glad that you're hey, I'm glad that you're here. 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:32.240 I'm glad you're enjoying it too. 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:39.360 There might even be some moments where there's a little bit of like camaraderie where you know, whatever, see someone wearing a shirt that is of something you're into, whatever. 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:39.920 Great. 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:41.439 But that's about as far as it goes. 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.319 And then I leave the movie and I'm like, I enjoyed that. 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:44.959 That was good. 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:46.879 Yeah, I needed that today. 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:47.839 Glad I was here. 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:49.519 And church can kind of become that. 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:56.160 But what you're essentially saying, and this is like maybe the worst commercial for church in the world, but that's kind of how Jesus would do it anyway. 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:00.560 Like all of his all of his advertising and marketing was like come meet messy people. 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:01.759 It's get messy. 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:02.879 People are messy. 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:03.600 They are. 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:09.680 And man, and yet we are continually attracted to be in relationships with other people. 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:10.079 Right. 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:11.199 Like that's human. 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:18.480 And when we don't do that and push away, we're not being the image of God like we're meant to be. 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:23.839 And that's so I'll give you kind of a funny example of how church has well, funny is the last word I'll use. 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:25.040 I use that phrase a lot too. 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:26.000 Like, you know what's funny? 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.800 And then what I say is not funny at all, maybe interesting. 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:38.399 So a few years ago, um, you know, I'm it's kind of late in my week, and one of the things I have to do almost every week is write the message, which is a pretty involved process. 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:42.879 I mean, I don't it probably should try giving one without writing it, just to see how that goes. 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:43.839 Have you ever had a conversation? 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:45.199 Entirely wing it. 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:48.480 So I there are people who assume that that I'll just wing it on a Sunday. 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:52.639 And if you're listening to this and you don't that maybe you don't go to his hands church, that's the church that we're from. 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:55.920 So obviously this podcast is a his hands podcast, you probably figure that out. 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:59.040 But uh yeah, so I I don't wing messages. 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:06.879 That said, I don't rehearse them to the point that it's memorized because I do want to leave room for God to speak and and there to be some and and that happens. 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:08.959 And they'll slightly change even between services. 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:16.800 Yeah, I don't I don't wanna so I want it to be known, I want to know it, but I don't want to have it memorized because I just that's my own head gets in the way. 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:28.160 But but my point is sometimes Friday rolls around and I'm stressed because I really I might I might have written the message and I didn't like it, and I know it's from me, not God, or whatever words you want to use. 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:30.720 And so I I'm I feel the the clock ticking. 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:31.120 Yeah. 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:42.799 A couple years ago, I get a phone call on I think of Thursday, and it's like this this guy who's been part of our church for a long time, someone that I've known, you know, don't know him intimately, but I know him like, you know, we I know his name. 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:45.120 If we had lunch together, it wouldn't be weird. 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:51.519 Um he like relapsed on a drug addiction that he had had that he had been clean on for a long time. 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:51.919 Yeah. 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:59.360 And to the point where he had to be sedated, he's in the hospital, and he had hit some things from his wife because of that, because there was a lot of guilt and shame. 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.000 And she found out because he's in the hospital, all this stuff's going on. 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:06.799 And so I'm asked if I'll come visit at the hospital because he's supposed to be woken up. 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:22.159 And when he wakes up, you know, it's sort of this like moment where he's gonna wake up in the hospital, there's his wife, and a lot of things are gonna happen dependent on that first sure, yeah, you know, how he responds. 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:23.039 You know what I mean? 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:24.879 Um, is he gonna do rehab? 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:26.240 Is he gonna whatever? 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.159 And so I'm asked to go and I'm like, of course, sure, I'll be there. 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:32.720 Yeah, but it's not what I'd rather it's not what I want to do that day. 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:33.039 Yeah. 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.519 I want to work on the message because I'm supposed to perform on Sunday. 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.759 I gotta, yeah, the clock is ticking, and this is gonna take, you know, it's gonna take me an hour to get there. 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.600 I'm gonna sit there for who knows how many hours, I'm gonna come back, and I gotta I gotta prepare the message. 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:44.000 Yeah. 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.600 So I'm there, and this is about as messy of a situation as you can be in. 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:48.000 Sure. 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:48.559 Right? 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:54.720 He wakes up, and uh he was already awake when I got there, but he's this is the day he's woken up. 00:09:54.960 --> 00:10:04.240 And I hear this guy share with his wife the most humbling, apologetic, but but life-filled. 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:10.960 I will do whatever needs done to to be the man I I need to be for you. 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:17.279 And I watch her forgive him, but also say, hey, look, there's gonna be process. 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:25.039 Yeah, because I mean, because there were some pretty big breaches of trust in this whole experience that that he's now when he wakes up, he's gotta face her and talk about it with. 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:31.360 And I'm watching her forgive him, and I'm watching him, and it's it's like the most it's messy, yes, but it's also beautiful. 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:38.720 Yeah, and it's funny because as we're recording this in the art room at His Hands Church, and I'm looking at some of the paintings that people at our church have made, and there's a lot of messy but beautiful paintings here. 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:41.759 Um there's a lot of mess involved in making these beautiful paintings. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:42.480 There is, yeah. 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:46.080 The art room is one of the messiest rooms we have because you know, paint is messy. 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.879 But but I walked away from that hospital experience. 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.399 Like, this is message prep. 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:51.279 Yeah, absolutely. 00:10:51.519 --> 00:11:04.000 What better, yeah, what better way for me to prepare to share about Jesus than to actually watch what Jesus does, what the Holy Spirit does working in the lives of everyday people through their problems, through their issues. 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.960 I saw grace, I saw love, I saw challenge, right? 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.279 Yeah, because it was challenging, like you're gonna have to make some changes. 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:13.759 I saw, I saw in this one moment, I saw what Jesus does. 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:14.240 Yeah. 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:23.120 And it was, and it, and everything within me wanted to say, no, I can't go because I have this thing I need to do that is isolated and for me and it's safe. 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:24.799 So keep you at an arm's distance. 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:25.919 I'm praying for you, you know? 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:26.320 Yeah. 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:27.840 Hey, I know that's hard, I'll be praying for you today. 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:29.039 Be blessed and be filled. 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:29.279 Right. 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:30.879 But I didn't want to go. 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.120 I walked away so glad that I went. 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.600 And uh and so I would say to someone, why should you go to church? 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.279 Because you actually, it's a it's a humbling thing to admit, you need people. 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:41.759 Yes. 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:43.600 And you you And they need you too. 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:44.240 They do. 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:44.960 Yeah. 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:52.559 You need you need people who are struggling to remind you what struggling is like because sometimes we're not struggling and we've we think that we never will. 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:52.879 Yeah. 00:11:53.120 --> 00:12:02.639 You need people who are thriving around you in ways that you're not, because you need to have hope and understand that the same spirit that is enabling them to overcome problems can enable you. 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:12.000 Um you you need to be you need to show up, not because you're you can't have you can listen to great worship music on your on your radio, yeah, you know, on Spotify or whatever. 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.000 You can listen, you can listen to great messages via Pog. 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:16.240 You can kind of you can get a lot of that stuff. 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.320 And yeah, when you do it in person, it's different. 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:18.799 Yeah. 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:26.080 But ultimately the reason you need to you need to go and be part is so that you can you can jump into the mess of people's lives. 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:27.039 That's it. 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:31.120 That's what Jesus does, and so that's what he compels us to do. 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:32.639 And that is what he did, right? 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:34.240 Like he got messy. 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:36.159 He could have fixed it from afar. 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:37.039 He's God. 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.039 Like I he didn't have to do it a certain way. 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.679 But yet that was like that was his plan. 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:47.919 Like we we say he didn't have to, but then again, like that's why he made human beings like this. 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:58.399 Like, because the plan all along was I'm going to become a human being and show them and then send my spirit, and like that's that's always been the plan. 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:05.440 Like, that is such that's the high view of being a human being, the image of God to God the Father. 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:12.799 And so that's why we have the church, because we are living that out in in the Spirit of God. 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.039 And so we don't expect it to be clean. 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:24.639 So if you're if you're listening and you've got a bunch of mess, and just think like, you know, the church would never want me to be there because I'm messy, it's just the opposite. 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:29.039 This is the one place like we don't have, we don't avoid it. 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.960 Yeah, and and in his hands, we say pretty often that we're a church for messy people. 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:34.879 That that isn't every church experience. 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:48.159 Yeah, but what I would recommend to anyone listening to this, I don't wherever you live, is find a place where the people are willing to share their failures and their successes, not just one, not just their successes. 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:48.639 Yeah. 00:13:49.279 --> 00:14:00.960 And it should be a place where you can let your guard down, be open and honest about where where you're at, not have to play this like keeping up with whoever and and sharing the highlights of your week. 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.120 Doesn't have to be like social media where you're you're curating all of what you're showing the world. 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:05.519 Yeah. 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:11.440 Where you can just come and and be and and get kind of messy with people and grow. 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:28.159 Yeah, and I would say the flip side of that is if you're in a good place and doing well, like I wouldn't describe most of my days as being a mess because of, you know, a lot of good things are around me, but when you're in a stronger place, like strength is meant for service, is the way. 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:32.559 I forget if that's Paul or Peter that says that, but strength is meant for service. 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:36.080 So even even all the good stuff, like he's given you that. 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.600 It there's like the concept is just like spiritual breathing. 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:47.519 Like we breathe in the Spirit of God and all this blessings, and when we have that strength, then we breathe it out and we we bless others. 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:57.120 Like you meant to be a to be a blessing, and then there's cost associated with that, and we just breathe it back in, and his goodness, and so it's it's this constant kind of thing. 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:02.879 Like it's it's not just hey, we're all messy, and uh don't feel bad if you're not a mess today. 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.960 But if you're not a mess, then that means you get to bless other people. 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:07.919 That's awesome. 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:08.240 Yeah. 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:10.720 All right, so essentially, why should you go? 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:11.519 People. 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:12.399 Yes. 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:13.519 Cool. 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:14.000 All right. 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:18.960 Well, that's gonna wrap it up for this episode of Crash Course, and uh look forward to talking to you guys with you guys. 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:24.799 I I don't know, we don't really talk with people meta, but you know, we could have nobody else in this room. 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.720 There's no one in the room, but we are, and we will see you guys later.