WEBVTT 00:00:00.959 --> 00:00:01.919 Well, hey everybody. 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:09.679 Welcome to the very first episode of, I guess, a mini podcast, a subpodcast of the His Hands Church podcast. 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:11.199 I don't even know if there's a term for that. 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:17.359 This is going to be a type of podcast that we do pretty often called Crash Course. 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:19.440 And the idea behind this is really simple. 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:22.800 Sometimes we've decided to follow Jesus. 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:29.839 Maybe we're a new believer, or maybe we've been following Jesus for years, but we just feel like we don't know our stuff. 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:40.479 We hear terms and words and concepts talked about in church or among other people who are following Jesus, and we sort of get it, but we're kind of hazy, and we just we just need someone to give us a crash course. 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:42.399 It's almost like a foreign language. 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:43.119 Yeah, right. 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:43.520 It is. 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:48.399 And by the way, the voice you're hearing right now is the one and only Scott Case, who's a very good friend of mine. 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:52.159 So I didn't even introduce you because I'm a jerk and it's the first episode, but whatever. 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:54.399 So I guess, you know, Scott, hello. 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:55.039 How are you doing? 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:55.679 Good. 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:56.719 Glad to be here. 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:59.280 Scott has uh has been a friend of mine for a long time. 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:03.679 We we worked together back in the day in the children's area here at his hands. 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:10.879 Um I mean, it's you you're a you're a well-rounded, I mean, you've taught in Bible colleges. 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.719 Uh you have are a former putt-putt like world champion. 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:16.079 That's an actual story that's true. 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:17.680 We don't have time to get into. 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:22.159 Uh financial I don't I think we definitely don't want to get into that on the podcast. 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:27.200 Financial planning, bodybuilding, putt-putt, Bible college. 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:28.319 You know, ventriloquism. 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:28.959 Ventriloquism. 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:32.319 In other words, Scott's a weird dude. 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:37.439 Um but but no, I uh the reason I'm excited to have Scott's gonna be on a lot of these. 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:43.680 There'll be different people that'll that'll be on this podcast uh from time to time, but Scott will be be one of the most regular people on it. 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:47.280 Um he knows he A Scott, you know the Bible really well. 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:51.680 Um and you have a really great way of communicating it simply, which is what this is all about. 00:01:51.840 --> 00:02:01.599 And so if you're listening to this, we hope that that each of these episodes just helps you understand a concept that that's part of our faith a little bit more clearly. 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:06.239 Um every episode we'll go over a different concept, a different word, or a different teaching in the Bible. 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:10.080 And these are not gonna be exhaustive because each one's only gonna be about 15 minutes long. 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.919 This is just a crash course meant to kind of get you caught up to speed so you feel like, oh, okay, I I get that. 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:23.520 And we're gonna start, Scott, with the easiest topic that I think you could possibly have in the world, and that is God. 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:25.360 Easy. 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:25.599 Right. 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:33.919 Let's start off with a simple one and then we'll build from the we'll build to the point where I thought that uh yeah, obviously, let's just talk about the concept of a higher power. 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:42.800 The reason I want to start with God is because there's a lot of different faiths in the world, there's a lot of different uh ideas of God. 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:47.680 Every major faith or religion, whatever you want to call it, has uh a God for the most part. 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.879 I mean, like Buddhism, there's not really a God, there's more of a force. 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:51.919 A force, right? 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:52.879 Like Star Wars. 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:57.759 Um And Star Wars is actually based on Eastern religion, it is and their concept of God. 00:02:58.080 --> 00:02:58.719 Absolutely. 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:16.400 And uh and if you were to talk to a Christian or someone that's that's maybe Muslim or even someone else that that doesn't even fall under typical faith or or religion, and you ask them, they'll they'll they'll all use the word God, but they mean different things. 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:16.879 Right. 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:25.280 And so what we want to talk about first is when we say God in the context of Jesus and the context of of Christianity, who is God? 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:29.199 And Scott, I guess I'll I'll give it to you. 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:34.719 If someone comes to you and says, Hey, uh, who's God to you as a Jesus follower, what would you say? 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:37.599 You know, uh first of all, God is a person. 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:44.000 God is not just this ethereal force that's out there, as you said earlier, this higher power. 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:49.439 God is a person, and God is the person who created everything we see. 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:55.360 The Bible says that he took from what was invisible and created everything we see that's visible. 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:57.120 He did it by his word. 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:58.960 God is our father. 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.960 God treats us like his children, he loves us like his children. 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:04.800 God, why did he create us? 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:06.639 He created us because of fellowship. 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:11.280 He wanted fellowship, he wanted to share his love, he needed objects of his love. 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:15.599 But I think that's the important thing is to understand that God is a person. 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:17.839 God is outside time. 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:30.720 And, you know, it's funny that with Einstein and all the things that they've discovered in the realm of physics, they're starting to actually come around to a lot of concepts that the Bible talks about, that God talks about in the Bible. 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:34.399 But you think about God being outside time, God is eternal. 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:36.639 People say, Well, where did God come from? 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:43.199 Well, God has always been because time has actually not always been. 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:57.360 God was around before there was time, God created time, God is outside time, God is forever, and there is a realm called eternity, and where time is an irrelevant concept. 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:59.279 God is in a spirit realm. 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:07.040 You know, again, going back to Einstein, just through his genius and equations that the genius that God gave him. 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:08.160 He's a pretty smart dude. 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:15.920 He was a smart guy, and he said, you know, there's actually probably several realms out there that we just can't see. 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:17.279 He deduced that. 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:19.759 Well, God lives in the spiritual realm. 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:27.680 Everything we see was birthed out of the spiritual realm, into this physical realm, is subordinate to the spiritual realm. 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.279 God is all powerful, God is almighty. 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:36.319 You know, sometimes you hear people talk about God wrestling the devil, fighting the devil. 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.319 It's not a match. 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:39.759 It's not fair. 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.920 The devil's power is nowhere even close to God's power. 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.519 God created Satan, God created the angels. 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:52.079 Everything that's out there in the spirit realm, in our realm, God created. 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:59.839 So, you know, if if you're listening to this and you're like, oh man, we're talking about realms and you know, it sounds like sci-fi stuff, right? 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:06.000 Or fantasy stuff, you know, spirit realm and angels and Satan and all this other stuff, right? 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:08.240 Watch the show Supernatural, they'll explain it all. 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:09.360 Yeah, it's exactly, yeah. 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:10.959 It's a long running show. 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.199 It's probably had 10 seasons by now. 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:14.560 It's completely biblically accurate. 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:15.360 Completely. 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.439 No, but so you know, kind of piggyback off what you're saying, Scott. 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.839 So number one, God is is a person, God is a who, not a what. 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:33.920 And I think that's a a really big distinction in our faith that that is not um that is not always the case in the way the world sees God or a higher power. 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:45.439 You know, that there's a lot of people that see God as the universe, that God is an ethereal sort of force that's out there, and and you know, that's it's interesting to think about. 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.279 Um, but you can't know the universe. 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:54.959 You can't know a force that you can, but you can know a person. 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:55.519 Exactly. 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:59.040 And since God is a person, that means God can be personal. 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.920 Um there's a lot of different ideas and terms out there about the nature of God. 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:08.160 And for example, you know, there's there's atheism, which is the idea that there is there is no God. 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:19.199 Um then there's deism, and deism would be the idea that and a lot of religions in the world kind of fall under this view of God, that there's there is a creator, there is a God who made things. 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:30.720 You know, I think a lot of people have looked at the world and said, man, this thing looks pretty pretty complex and specific and fine-tuned, seems to have the the markings of something that was designed, right? 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.279 So there's probably a designer if it's designed. 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:44.000 But deism would say that whoever God is, he created the world, walked away from it, just sort of like someone like gets a top spinning on the ground and then leaves it to do its thing, but is not personally involved. 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:50.480 And and I'll tell you what's appealing about deism, by the way, and that is that there's no one for us to be accountable to. 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:50.959 Yeah. 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:58.079 We believe in God, God created things, but I don't have to be accountable to him because he's not really hanging around anymore. 00:07:58.480 --> 00:07:58.720 Yeah. 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:07.920 So so yeah, I believe God, I believe there's a higher power, but I'm not he's not really paying attention to me, and and that means he's not he doesn't really care about my life, which on one hand is attractive, right? 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:10.480 Like, hell, he doesn't care what I do. 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:14.319 But but what if what if there's a God that really does care? 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:14.720 Right. 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.959 And what if there's a God that cares so much that he actually wants to know you? 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:23.680 And the and what if you can have a relationship with with God? 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:27.279 What if you can actually know your creator? 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:46.559 And where where you know Christianity and the idea of of God that you see in the Old Testament, the New Testament, the Bible is very unique actually in the history of the world, is that for most of human history there's been the idea of God or gods, you know, multiple gods, um, which would be polytheism, you know, multiple gods and all that. 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.879 But generally, the gods have no interest in knowing people. 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:55.519 At the very best, they're tolerant or indifferent to people. 00:08:55.679 --> 00:09:01.840 Uh, at the very worst, they they cannot stand people and they torture people and do things to people just for their own amusement. 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:15.120 The idea that that God loves us and wants to know us and wants to be in a personal relationship with us, it's it's an incredibly powerful concept that is not normal in the history of the world. 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:22.000 You know, we see in the Old Testament where God says, you know, they will be my people and I will be their God. 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:30.720 He is He is a person, therefore, He's personal, and you can actually have a relationship with a person. 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:32.399 You can't have a relationship with a thing. 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:36.879 And and I'll tell you what's important about that, Justin, is I made the statement earlier. 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.039 God created us to fellowship with us. 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.320 God created us for friendship, for being together. 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:49.519 The way God created us, if you don't know God, the reality is you're gonna have a hole on the inside of you. 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:54.879 You are going to have an empty spot because we were meant to know our Creator. 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.759 We were meant to, God is love. 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:03.200 We were meant to know his love, we were meant to be one with God, literally. 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.120 That's the way he wants it to be. 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:13.840 And today, people, it's not just that they ignore God or don't know God, but they don't that they sense that need on the inside. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.080 But a lot of people just don't know why is it? 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:19.120 Why is it that I feel this emptiness at times? 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.679 And I think it's a big source of depression. 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:28.559 And until you know God and have that personal relationship with Him, you will be empty on the inside. 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.360 You will feel like something is missing, and the reason is because something is missing. 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:34.000 Right. 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:35.200 No, absolutely. 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:43.679 So if if and I think it's interesting when you think about human nature, the Bible says that we were created in the image of God. 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:51.440 And and we'll get into uh in another podcast the idea of God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, because it would take you know a few more minutes to talk about. 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.559 And we want to make sure each of these episodes is is bite-sized. 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.679 But the Bible says we were made in the image of God. 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:00.879 In other words, we're we're meant to sort of reflect God. 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:01.759 Yes. 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:13.039 And so when you look at us, there it's funny, even in the even in a world that will deny the existence of God, there's a lot of people in the world that will just deny that God exists, and yet those people still worship something. 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:13.519 Yeah. 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:13.919 Right? 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:15.600 Everyone worships something. 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:17.360 Some people worship themselves. 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:22.879 Some people believe their own intellect, their own ideas are the ultimate force in the universe. 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:36.240 Uh some people worship money, some people worship success, some people worship pleasure, some people I mean, there's there's no matter who a person is, there is something that deep down inside that person thinks is worth serving. 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:39.919 There is like you said, there's a hole in us. 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:52.960 There is something in our our nature as people, as human beings, that seeks to find something to worship, that is always looking for something greater than ourselves that we can devote our lives to. 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:59.360 It doesn't matter if you believe in the traditional idea of God or not, everyone is worshiping something. 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:09.440 And all you gotta do is open up someone's you know bank account, and you can usually pretty quickly discover what they worship, what what what do they value most, what are they what are they giving themselves to in life? 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:20.799 And and that's why the idea of God, this this spiritual but real God that created everything, that created time itself. 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.240 I mean, you mentioned that, Scott, you know, God created space and time. 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:26.159 He took nothing and he made something. 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.720 He's eternal, he's always existed. 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:40.879 That God, the all-powerful, all-knowing, outside of time, eternal God, can be known and exist in a relationship with us. 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.519 That I can actually know that God and talk to that God and have that God share things with me. 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:53.600 And that God who's so big and powerful, cares enough about me that he actually will take time to speak to me and and and affirm that I belong to him. 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:55.279 Like that's that's pretty amazing. 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:55.919 It is. 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:00.960 And you know, I'm sure Justin, some people are listening to this going, how do these guys even know that God exists? 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:02.320 You can't see God. 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:04.000 How do they even know God exists? 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:05.279 And I'll give you just a little bit of a. 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.200 Well, they're thinking it now if they weren't, because you said it. 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:08.000 Because I said it. 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:10.320 And they are definitely thinking it. 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.799 Um and that's you know, that's a valid question. 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.120 And I'll just give you a little bit about my background. 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:24.720 When I was very young, I gave my life to Jesus, but then I went through a period of time when I was in school where I got to the point I really did not believe in God. 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.840 I wanted to, but you can't see God. 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:29.519 And I didn't believe in God. 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:35.519 And I'll tell you a couple of things, though, that really helped me turn around and see the reality of God. 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.120 Number one is prophecy in the Bible. 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:51.200 The Bible prophesies about things that are to happen hundreds of years in some situations over a thousand years down the road, and the prophecies were fulfilled to the nth degree. 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:52.879 I mean, very detailed. 00:13:53.120 --> 00:14:05.279 And when I first saw that and began to see how many prophecies were fulfilled, again, so exactly, I started to think there's got to be something supernatural here. 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.120 This did not just happen. 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:08.480 It was too precise. 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:26.080 But then the second thing is just when you look around, you know, the whole thing of evolution versus creation, and maybe that'll be the subject of one of uh our other uh talks here, but you know, to think that everything that we see came from nothing, to me that takes a lot more faith than it does to believe in God. 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:29.360 Right, with with no creative force behind it. 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:39.840 Like creative force meaning intelligence, creativity as we would know it, that you know, that randomly with no one, no one at the wheel, this all happened to be. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.200 That is nowhere near what evolution is. 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:58.159 Evolution is there are no parts to the watch. 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:00.799 The parts to the watch just formed by themselves. 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.600 And you're talking about Darwinian you know, evolution. 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:30.960 Sometimes that word evolution, there's a lot of different you know, the the idea that there was nothing and then things just sort of appeared, the primordial soup sort of thing, and uh eventually you know protein molecules formed and then those became functioning cells, and those cells went from being single-celled organisms to multi-celled organisms, and that out and and again, all that it's like even if you study the mathematical probabilities associated with a lot of those theories, you're right. 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:44.480 Like, man, that takes a lot of faith to believe that that just sort of all happened, because how many things in our world do we see that just sort of happen and they end up being functioning, you know, right? 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:56.159 So they're it would be like finding a personal computer in the middle of the desert filled with information on its hard drive, and somebody looks at it and goes, Wow, what are the odds that thing formed? 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:56.639 Right. 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:57.440 You know, no. 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:04.960 Where you have clear information, where you have clear structure, where you have clear organization, something made that. 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.000 So I'll just kind of recap it and we'll we'll wrap this one up. 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:16.080 Uh obviously we'll we'll need more than one episode to talk about the idea of God, but uh, and we'll get more specific uh in our next episode. 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:19.200 But but to sort of recap, we've talked about okay, who is God? 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:28.240 All right, well, in our faith as as Christians, God is the the supernatural creator of the universe. 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:38.559 Now, I use that word supernatural because I want to circle back around to something I was kind of commenting on earlier where you know you started talking and you're like, and he's in the spirit realm and he in the created angels. 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:44.480 A lot of times, especially if we're new in our faith, or maybe we're just even questioning, we start to hear phrases like that and we go, I don't know. 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:45.840 That seems a little odd, right? 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:47.519 Well, here's the reality. 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.480 God, if he's not supernatural, he's not God. 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:53.039 Yes. 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:58.159 So we sometimes go, ooh, that stuff sounds like it's kind of well, yeah, it's it's not natural. 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.159 It's supernatural. 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:06.319 So God is supernatural, which means he exists outside of nature because he created it. 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:09.279 He he is above nature, he is over nature. 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:14.880 So God is supernatural, um, which means he's not bound to the laws of nature, he's not bound to the laws of time. 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.079 That means he can be, you know, anywhere at any time. 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:18.880 He's he's God. 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:27.920 So he's a supernatural creator who is the designer of the universe, he is the designer of us, he's our creator, he thought us up, he made us. 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:36.000 And and this is what you kind of started with, and we'll wrap up with because I think this is the the thing to know if you're a Jesus follower, is to know why he made you. 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:40.079 So a lot of times people say things like, Oh, you know, God created us to worship him. 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:40.640 Nope. 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:42.559 God does not need us to worship him at all. 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:47.759 You know, he's not like a like Tinkerbell or a fairy in the Peter Pan, and if you don't believe in him, he'll die. 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.119 He was doing great before we should be able to do it. 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:49.759 He's fine. 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:51.599 He's God, he's got he's got all he needs. 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.440 The Bible actually says that he created us to love us. 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:58.079 He did not create us to worship him. 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:08.720 He he does not have self-confidence issues, he's not insecure, he doesn't need a bunch of people, you know, and and honestly, if he would have created us to worship him, he wouldn't have given us the ability to choose not to worship him. 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:09.200 Right. 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:11.920 Um, but he created you to know you. 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:19.680 He created you to have a relationship with you, he created you so that you could experience his love in your life. 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:21.359 That's actually what the Bible teaches. 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:26.640 That we were made, and that's in Ephesians chapter one, by the way, that we were made to be the focus of his love. 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:43.119 And so when we say God, and we're gonna say God a lot in this podcast, we're talking about the supernatural creative force in the universe that is personal and knowable, and you can actually have a relationship with that is God. 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.400 Um, I think that's gonna wrap it up for episode one. 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:52.640 And so uh keep listening, and we look forward to talking to you guys more about this in our next episode. 00:18:52.799 --> 00:19:00.559 We're gonna talk about God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit because that's a concept in our faith that sometimes can be a little confusing. 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:02.720 So uh talk to you guys soon. 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:04.079 Thanks for listening.