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<v SPEAKER_00>Good morning.

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<v unknown>Good morning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Today's scripture reading is from John chapter 20, verses 24 to 29.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Actually to 31, excuse me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now Thomas, one of the twelve, called the twin, was not with them when Jesus came.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the other disciples told him, We have seen the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But he said to them, Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Eight days later his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, Peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here and see my hands, and put out your hand and place it in my side.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Do not disbelieve, but believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thomas answered, My Lord and my God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus said to him, Have you believed because you have seen me?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book, but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is the word of the Lord.

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<v unknown>Thanks be to God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You may be seated.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, thanks for joining us, everybody.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Happy Easter to you all.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He is risen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, this morning we are covering John chapter 20, 24 to 31.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this, as you just heard, covers the story of what has been been called Doubting Thomas, which is a shame for Thomas, that that becomes his name for all time, Doubting Thomas.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But this is also, it could have just as likely been named first person to confess Christ as Lord, first person to confess Christ as God, Thomas, which is not as catchy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so it didn't work for him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, there's this question of how why is it that we would believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What evidence would you need to see in order to believe that Jesus Christ was crucified on a cross and that he was he died, he really died, he was buried, and then three days later he rose again from the dead?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What is it that you would have to see in order to think something like that?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I had often wondered, why didn't God just orchestrate things such that when Jesus was crucified and resurrected, video cameras existed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why not just do that?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Why not just have it such that we could film the event?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then when the event was filmed, we would just be able to watch it, and then everybody would gather together and they would watch this videotape and they would say, See, look, there's proof, there's evidence that we have that Jesus rose from the dead.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But of course, we know what would have happened if video cameras were invented, uh, let's say in the first century BC, then by the second century AD, well, we would have had artificial intelligence generating whatever video from text, and you would realize that no matter what you whatever you saw on a video camera, whatever you saw on a videotape, whatever you saw on a screen, you couldn't trust it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You couldn't believe it in the first place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Instead of a video camera, instead of taped evidence, what the Lord gave us is actually something better.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He gave us his word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this is the very lesson that Thomas learns when he encounters Jesus in the flesh.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because when he encounters Jesus in the flesh, what Jesus brings him face to face with is the heart of his belief.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thomas thinks the heart of his belief is what he can see and what he can touch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That is the final ground that his belief rests on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But Jesus knows that's not true.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's not true of any of us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That the final ground that our belief rests on is actually hearing and trusting the Word of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's what we see today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thomas thinks that he finally believes things because he sees and touches them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What he learns is that he finally believes things because he trusts the word of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That may sound flimsier, like flimsier evidence than a video camera.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I hope that you see today that it is actually stronger.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Our text begins in verses 24 and 25.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says, Now Thomas, one of the twelve, called the twin, was not with them when Jesus came.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the other disciples told him, We have seen the Lord, but he said to them, Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now this event takes place on the day of the resurrection.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is Easter Sunday, the first one.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is when Jesus rose from the dead.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what happened on that day is that Jesus encountered Mary in the garden just outside the tomb, and then he spoke with some other women whom he sent to tell the disciples.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then Peter and John discover the empty tomb.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus meets two men walking on the road to Emmaus, and then eventually reconnects with the ten disciples.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And when he meets with those ten disciples, Jesus appears to them in a locked room, and he says, Peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then he breathes on them, giving them the Holy Spirit, and gives them one of the great commissions in Scripture, in which he tells them that they now have the power for the forgiveness of sins, that they may proclaim the name of Jesus and sins will be forgiven.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, when all that happened, when Thomas, when all that happened, when the disciples were gathered together on that first resurrection Sunday, and they see Jesus in the flesh for the first time, Thomas was running an errand.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was out somewhere collecting something for the group that was all gathered together of these apostles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then he gets back to the ten other apostles who are gathered together in this upper room, and the other disciples tell him, We've seen the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Great news.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've seen the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, one way to think of this interaction is the apostles are the witnesses to Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the commission that they have been given is to bear witness to the resurrection of Jesus over the whole world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That they are the ones who are proclaiming forgiveness of sins in Jesus Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this is really, this is their first evangelistic opportunity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's very low-hanging fruit because it's one of their own.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They have great relational capital with Thomas here, and it immediately doesn't work.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Their first shot just immediately doesn't work.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They say, Jesus is risen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've seen the Lord, He's alive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And one of their own, Thomas says, No.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He said to them, Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you can hear the heart of Thomas in this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can also recognize the immediacy of the pain that they all must have been experiencing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was only two days earlier in which they had seen the nails go into Tom into Jesus' hands.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was only two days earlier, three days earlier in which they had seen the nails go into his feet.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They knew that he had been punched, he'd been punctured in the side by a spear.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He'd been stabbed in the side, such that blood and water gushed forth from his body, and everybody bore witness to his death.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everybody had seen their friend executed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so Thomas, when he's asking for proof, when he's asking for evidence, there's a sense in which you can see it's it's almost as though he has the sense that the other apostles are being callous with regard to what had been witnessed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That there is something happening where they are deceived in some way, and he is the only one who can see the reality that their friend had murdered, had been murdered, and he had the wherewithal to accept that at face value.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's my two-year-old drumming, by the way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sometimes he drums.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He had the wherewithal to accept it at face value in a way that the other apostles didn't.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he asks for, he demands, in fact, proof of life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But the type of proof of life that he demands is not that, okay, if if the Lord arrived, then with well, the next time that I see the Lord, I'm gonna ask him if he remembers how many fish we caught in the Sea of Galilee together the last time that we were together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's not the move that he makes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Instead, he says, unless I touch the wounds that killed him, unless I place my hands on the dead man's body at the places that caused him death, then I won't believe that it's him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because he knows that his friend was murdered, and he knows the way in which he was murdered.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's not going to just simply let that go.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The point is of this is that Thomas thinks, you can hear the starkness of what he says, because he says, unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, place my finger in the mark of the nails, place my hand into his side, he says, I will never believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Unless that happens, I will never believe, is what Thomas says.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Many of us are in a similar position with regards to Jesus Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We say, unless I'm given sufficient evidence for where I think belief ought to rest, I will never believe in him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'll never believe in him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're taught the shape of belief as the story of Thomas goes on, because what Thomas thinks is that the most matter-of-fact things that he engages with in his life are the things that he can see and the things that he can touch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That there's an objectivity to the world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that in this place of his objectivity, that's where the final matter-of-fact lies for Thomas.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But Jesus will teach him that the fundamental organs of his belief, the fundamental organs of belief are not our hands that touch, they're not even our eyes that see.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They're not our mouths that taste or our noses that smell.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's by hearing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Hearing is the fundamental organ of belief.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We hear the word of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We hear it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in our hearing the word of God, recognizing it as the truth, well, that becomes the foundation of our belief.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I know that sounds strange at first hearing, but I think you'll see that it's not as strange as it sounds.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's actually where all your beliefs come from.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In John 20, verses 26, here's what happens.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we've got it so far.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thomas is the unlucky apostle, he's out running errands while the others are seeing the resurrected Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He returns, they say, He was here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, I will never believe unless I see and touch him myself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>John 20, 26, eight days later, so eight days after that first resurrection appearance, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, Peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's eight days later.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, the resurrection itself happens on an eighth day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the first day of the week, Sunday, which means that it's the first day after the seven days of the full week.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is a new beginning, a new birth, a new world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's what's shown to us on the eighth day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is why there's circumcision on the eighth day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like being born again, a symbol of being born into the covenant promises is what's shown.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There are lots of eighth days throughout scripture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's lots of, you know, seven times seven plus one.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the 50th year, is the year of Jubilee.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's the eighth, the new beginning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, here we have another new beginning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>On the eighth day, his disciples are inside again, and Thomas is with them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Great news.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He didn't miss it this time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, Peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now the doors are locked, but Jesus is able to enter them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, what does this tell us about resurrected bodies?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, one thing it tells us about resurrected bodies is locked doors are no big deal when you have a resurrected body.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I think it it means something more than that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't think it's like that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I wasn't there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A locked door is authority.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you have the key, then you have the authority over that place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know what Jesus has?

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's no authority over him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's no door locked to him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's got the key to the city.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, but but like the universe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was given to him from the mayor's office.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They don't always land.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus arrives and he says, Peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says it again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just like the first time he said to the disciples when they were there without Thomas, Peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now what's being said there?

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's more than just a happy greeting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's more than just a nice hello.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus means it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>These are the men who had abandoned him three days plus eight earlier.

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<v SPEAKER_00>These are the men who, when he was up on the cross, they they had fled from him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They denied him at their opportunity to stand next to him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They had betrayed their friend.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus says to them, upon arriving in their presence, peace be with you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's able to say that because he has purchased their peace.

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<v SPEAKER_00>By him laying his life down, he has made peace between them and God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he announces that peace is there, and then he turns his attention towards Thomas's doubts.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here and see my hands, and put out your hand and place it in my side.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Do not disbelieve, but believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he says, Look, you touch them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you need to touch them, touch them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Look at them, see them.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then he says, Do not disbelieve, but believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That tells us a couple of things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The first thing that it tells us is that Jesus knows seeing and touching is not enough.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He understands that he might see and touch and still disbelieve.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He understands what the heart of man is like.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He knows that it that we could see somebody raised from the dead and we would still not believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We would still not believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so he recognizes that although he will see and touch, he still must choose to believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Both are active options that he has.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He will either believe or disbelieve.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Jesus commands him, this command, do not disbelieve, but believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, this I think is maybe the most underutilized, maybe the best evangelistic strategy that we have that we don't use.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're trying to share the gospel with somebody and say, Jesus is Lord, He rose from the dead, He forgives your sins.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then you say, Don't disbelieve that, believe it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then the person that you're hoping to share this with would say, Oh, oh, okay.

00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:18.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I didn't know, I thought you wanted me to disbelieve it.

00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Now that you've told me to believe it, I'll believe it.

00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:26.240
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, that's what that's kind of what our uh but that's exactly what Jesus does here.

00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:31.279
<v SPEAKER_00>And it raises this sort of strange question, which is can you command somebody to believe?

00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:34.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Can you tell somebody, don't disbelieve, but believe?

00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:36.799
<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't seem like you can.

00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:41.279
<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't seem like that's something you can say to someone, like, don't disbelieve this, believe it.

00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:43.119
<v SPEAKER_00>But here's the thing.

00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Can you tell someone to believe something?

00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.160
<v SPEAKER_00>The answer is it depends on who you are.

00:17:55.039 --> 00:18:00.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Maybe more precisely, it depends on who you are to that person.

00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Because I know it can be done.

00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:09.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I know that you can just tell someone to believe something.

00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.839
<v SPEAKER_00>I know because I do it all the time with my three kids.

00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.559
<v SPEAKER_00>I just tell them to believe things.

00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:20.319
<v SPEAKER_00>I do it all the time.

00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:22.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Here's the way it often goes.

00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:34.319
<v SPEAKER_00>They'll look at something and they'll say, like, uh, for example, we were in Home Depot yesterday, and we were looking around at things, and they'll say, What's this?

00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And I'll say, It's a flower.

00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:38.319
<v SPEAKER_00>It was something more simple.

00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:40.480
<v SPEAKER_00>My children know all kinds of things.

00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:48.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Or more complicated than just a flower, but the um and they I look at them and I say, Oh, that flower there, that's a flower.

00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:49.759
<v SPEAKER_00>It's called a flower.

00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:56.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And they'll look at me and they'll they'll say, they'll say, Is it though?

00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:03.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Is it really like should I believe that that that's called that that's what that's called?

00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Should I believe that that's called a flower?

00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.480
<v SPEAKER_00>No, they don't do that at all.

00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.240
<v SPEAKER_00>They don't do that at all.

00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:22.880
<v SPEAKER_00>In fact, almost a hundred percent of the words they know, the way that they are able to look out into the world and they point at things, and they they they're really good at it, especially the nine-year-old.

00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:25.359
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, great job.

00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:29.839
<v SPEAKER_00>The two-year-old is so so, but he's coming along.

00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:35.279
<v SPEAKER_00>They're able to look out into the world and they point at things and they they tell the truth about them.

00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:41.759
<v SPEAKER_00>They say tree, they say car, they say truck.

00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:43.680
<v SPEAKER_00>They're really good at it.

00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:46.079
<v SPEAKER_00>They can name all kinds of things in the world.

00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:48.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Why are they able to do that?

00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:53.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Why why are they able to name the world rightly, to name it truthfully?

00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:55.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't you see?

00:19:55.279 --> 00:20:07.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Fundamentally, beneath it all, the reason that they're able to name the word rightly, name the world rightly, to say true things about the world, is just because they trust their mother and I.

00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:10.480
<v SPEAKER_00>They just trust us.

00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:19.039
<v SPEAKER_00>They hear us call things by their names, and they say, I believe your words about that thing.

00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:25.200
<v SPEAKER_00>That's how all of you know all of the most fundamental things that you know.

00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.160
<v SPEAKER_00>You see, that's the true story of where your knowledge comes from.

00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.680
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the true story of where your knowledge comes from.

00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:36.240
<v SPEAKER_00>There's a story that you've been told later.

00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:42.559
<v SPEAKER_00>There's a story that we like to adopt about where our knowledge comes from, that Thomas is trying to adopt here.

00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:52.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And the story that Thomas is trying to adopt is that there is a way to gain true knowledge that does not require of me the risk of trust.

00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:56.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And there is no such way.

00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:05.759
<v SPEAKER_00>Not for true knowledge, not to know the things that matter, the things of what they mean.

00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:12.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Those come by hearing and by trusting what you hear.

00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:18.000
<v SPEAKER_00>It's fundamentally how you actually know everything that you know.

00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:27.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And so the question is, can someone, can you really tell someone to believe something?

00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:32.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And the answer is it depends on who you are to that person.

00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.319
<v SPEAKER_00>So who was Jesus to Thomas?

00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, this is Thomas's confession after seeing Jesus.

00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:41.680
<v SPEAKER_00>In John 20, verse 28.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thomas answered him, My Lord and my God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That is the confession that Thomas makes.

00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Now look at this confession.

00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:53.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Look at what he says.

00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:56.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Perhaps first, look at what he he doesn't say.

00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.759
<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't say, Jesus, it really is you.

00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:01.519
<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't say that.

00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:04.559
<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't say, you really did resurrect.

00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.319
<v SPEAKER_00>You really did come back to life.

00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:08.880
<v SPEAKER_00>The apostles, the other apostles, you know how they can be.

00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:11.359
<v SPEAKER_00>I thought they were pulled my leg for the past eight days.

00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:15.359
<v SPEAKER_00>It was really a cruel joke about your dead friend.

00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:18.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And I didn't trust them.

00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:20.400
<v SPEAKER_00>I couldn't bring myself to believe something like this.

00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:21.519
<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't say that.

00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:22.799
<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't confess that.

00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:27.839
<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't look at what does he see, and what does he perhaps touch?

00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:30.799
<v SPEAKER_00>The scripture doesn't tell him that he tell us that he touches him.

00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:34.960
<v SPEAKER_00>What he sees is a wounded man.

00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:36.960
<v SPEAKER_00>That's what he sees.

00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:41.680
<v SPEAKER_00>What he confesses is my Lord and my God.

00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:44.799
<v SPEAKER_00>My Lord and my God.

00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:46.400
<v SPEAKER_00>You can't see that.

00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:52.160
<v SPEAKER_00>You can't see that Jesus is Lord and God.

00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:54.960
<v SPEAKER_00>How can you know that?

00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:56.880
<v SPEAKER_00>How could you know that he is?

00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:13.119
<v SPEAKER_00>What he confesses shows that what he knew about Jesus finally, what he is finally confessing here, what Thomas is, what the fundamental revelation that Thomas is making is the things that Jesus said about himself are true.

00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:15.440
<v SPEAKER_00>That's what he's confessing.

00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:25.279
<v SPEAKER_00>When he sees the wounded man, when he sees Christ before him, what he's finally confessing is all the words that Jesus spoke about himself are true.

00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:30.400
<v SPEAKER_00>When this man said, I and the Father are one, it was the truth.

00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:34.400
<v SPEAKER_00>It was the truth.

00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:40.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So Jesus offers this rebuke to Thomas's previous way of thinking.

00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:43.759
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus said to him, Have you believed because you have seen me?

00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:48.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:52.559
<v SPEAKER_00>You see, this is the final place.

00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:58.079
<v SPEAKER_00>This is Jesus turns and, in a sense, he opens the door to all of us.

00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:04.160
<v SPEAKER_00>All of us who have not seen Jesus, all of us who, like Thomas, did not get the chance to see Jesus.

00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, Blessed are they that believe.

00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:22.880
<v SPEAKER_00>You are blessed because what you are doing is you are taking God at his word.

00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.200
<v SPEAKER_00>And that is the foundation of all belief.

00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:34.640
<v SPEAKER_00>You are believing the words that God has said to you.

00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:39.119
<v SPEAKER_00>That is the foundation of all belief, the foundation of all knowing.

00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:46.880
<v SPEAKER_00>The foundation of being able to confess anything of meaning is trust in the one who is telling it to you.

00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And so why are you blessed if you have not seen?

00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:56.480
<v SPEAKER_00>It seems to me that it would be more blessed to have seen Jesus and believed.

00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:58.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Seems like you get both, right?

00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, Jesus is saying to Thomas, you'll get more.

00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:04.720
<v SPEAKER_00>You get more.

00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:06.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Isn't that strange?

00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.480
<v SPEAKER_00>You get more in taking God at his plain word.

00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.000
<v SPEAKER_00>It's a glorious thing.

00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:25.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And now John turns from the blessing of Jesus in his gospel and he extends it to you, to us, to his reader, to the one who hears the words that he has written.

00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:28.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's like he jumps off this insight of Jesus.

00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:35.839
<v SPEAKER_00>And in verses 30 and 31, he says, Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book.

00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:47.119
<v SPEAKER_00>But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:53.279
<v SPEAKER_00>How is it that you could believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God?

00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, you can just read what's written about him in the book.

00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You can just hear what's said about him.

00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:09.519
<v SPEAKER_00>By the way, this is your only option for the claims that Jesus makes of himself.

00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:16.160
<v SPEAKER_00>The only option, finally, is to see that the word of God is true.

00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:19.599
<v SPEAKER_00>And that this is the basis for all knowing.

00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:24.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Imagine if it had been videotaped.

00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:32.880
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, imagine if there was a motion-activated camera on the tomb and it caught some weird stuff in the night with angels rolling things away.

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.720
<v SPEAKER_00>Those would be blurry.

00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:40.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And then at clear as day, Jesus walks out, walks out of the tomb.

00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:46.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And we see the conversation with Mary where he thinks that she thinks that he's the gardener.

00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:49.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And then he reveals himself to her.

00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:51.839
<v SPEAKER_00>We have that footage.

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:59.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And then we fast forward, you know, however long it is, 80 years from the video cameras being invented in the first century.

00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:10.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And then we're in the, we're in like our world now, where I for free on the supercomputer in my pocket, I can fake any video that I type the right text into.

00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:13.599
<v SPEAKER_00>I can make it look like anything happens.

00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Can make it look like anything happens.

00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And then what world are we in?

00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:29.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Then we're in a world where there would be two groups of people, and there would be folks that would say, hey, the we have this video evidence of Jesus in his resurrection, but it doesn't mean anything.

00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.000
<v SPEAKER_00>You can make any video look like anything.

00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.559
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, those videos are easily doctored.

00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:35.680
<v SPEAKER_00>They're all videos are.

00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:37.519
<v SPEAKER_00>No video evidence counts for anything.

00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:38.640
<v SPEAKER_00>It's inadmissible.

00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:40.880
<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't work, it's fruitless.

00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.640
<v SPEAKER_00>And then there would be another story that would develop alongside that story.

00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:58.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And the the other story would be: yes, but we have people who we have this chain of people who claim to have seen the original video before it was doctored.

00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:09.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And they claim to see this original video, and they wrote down at the time that the original video that they saw before it was doctored was not doctored and was true.

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And then here's the question that we would have.

00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:20.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Are we going to trust the people who said they saw it?

00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.799
<v SPEAKER_00>That would be the whole question.

00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.000
<v SPEAKER_00>We're going to trust the people that said they saw it.

00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.079
<v SPEAKER_00>It's the only way it can be known.

00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Why were there not video cameras?

00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:39.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Because Jesus gave us the only way that humans can convey truth to one another.

00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:46.240
<v SPEAKER_00>Always, 100% of the time, it requires the risk of trust.

00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:51.279
<v SPEAKER_00>Always requires the risk of trust.

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:57.039
<v SPEAKER_00>It is not a requirement of faith in Jesus Christ.

00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:02.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Because God is like trying to hide something behind his back.

00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:15.599
<v SPEAKER_00>It is a requirement of faith because that is the only way knowledge ever works.

00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.079
<v SPEAKER_00>It's the only way you know your native tongue.

00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:32.400
<v SPEAKER_00>It's because you loved and trusted the authorities that were over you, the people who were over you, your parents, and you listened to them and you believed the words that they said.

00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.519
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the true story of how you know stuff.

00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's the true story of how we know God.

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:44.000
<v SPEAKER_00>We love him and we believe the words that he told to us.

00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:55.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And that is the glory in the confession of Thomas, where what he confesses is, my Lord, my God, the Lord of me, the God of me.

00:29:55.200 --> 00:30:02.880
<v SPEAKER_00>So why is it that we balk at this idea of faith in Jesus Christ, this thing that seems unproven, flimsy, untested?

00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:05.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Why is it that we balk at something like that?

00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:09.519
<v SPEAKER_00>It's because we don't, it's because we want our truth to be a testable what.

00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.519
<v SPEAKER_00>We want it to be a mere disinterested matter of fact.

00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:19.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And we think that the way to approach a truth claim like that is to approach it in a disinterested fashion.

00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:27.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And in approaching it in a disinterested fashion, we would be able to arrive at the mere matter of fact and then respond of our own accord to that matter of fact.

00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:31.200
<v SPEAKER_00>But that assumes that truth is a what, and truth is not a what.

00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:33.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Truth is a who.

00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:42.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus reveals us, reveals himself to us, and he explains to us, I am the way, I am the truth, I am the life.

00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Why do we hate that the truth is a who?

00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Why would we prefer that the truth be a what?

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Because we know it's a who in our heart.

00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And we know that we have sinned against the truth.

00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.599
<v SPEAKER_00>We know that the invisible things of the world are real.

00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.160
<v SPEAKER_00>We know that the morality that we are called to before God is real.

00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:07.920
<v SPEAKER_00>We know that he is really there, that he really exists, that he really made us.

00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:22.319
<v SPEAKER_00>We know that he really covenantly bound himself to us, that we have sinned against him, that we stand before him dead in our trespasses and sins, with nothing in our hands that we can bring that can atone for our trespasses and sins.

00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:24.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Don't you wish the world was just a what?

00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:26.400
<v SPEAKER_00>But it's not.

00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:33.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Finally, fundamentally, the one who holds reality is a who, and we have sinned against him.

00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:34.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, what do we do?

00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:36.160
<v SPEAKER_00>What is the news?

00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:41.680
<v SPEAKER_00>Here's the news of that God who we stand condemned before.

00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.759
<v SPEAKER_00>The news is that God has become a man.

00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:47.680
<v SPEAKER_00>His name is Jesus Christ.

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:55.359
<v SPEAKER_00>He dwelt among us in the flesh, making known the fullness of God to us in the flesh.

00:31:55.680 --> 00:32:14.799
<v SPEAKER_00>He dwelt among us and revealed himself to men who he equipped and empowered to proclaim and bear witness to what they had seen in Jesus, that Jesus went to the cross and died, that on the cross he bore the punishment due to us for our sins.

00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:22.240
<v SPEAKER_00>It was an act of grace, of sacrificial love, of atonement for your sins, for our sins.

00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:36.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And that three days later, to show his victory over the grave, he rose from the dead and he rules and reigns in the heavens now, that we can say, like Thomas, my Lord, my God, of Jesus Christ.

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.400
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the news.

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.599
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the glory of what took place.

00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:43.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, how do you see that?

00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:44.000
<v SPEAKER_00>How do you prove that?

00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.519
<v SPEAKER_00>How do you touch that or see that?

00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:53.359
<v SPEAKER_00>You can't see that what took place on the cross was the atonement for sins.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You couldn't videotape that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can't see that the resurrection means new life for all of us, eternal life if we believe in him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can't videotape that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All of the greatest claims about Christ cannot be filmed or tested.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Tusted, it's some made up, it's a word for tested by touching.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's a they are only available to us because God tells them to us in his word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the word became flesh and dwelt among us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It has been attested to in the scriptures.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I know to our minds this feels flimsier, but I hope you see the testimony to Jesus Christ in the scriptures, which are the word of God, are the most sure thing possible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In our world, in the shape of our world, such as it is, there is nothing that could be given to you that is possibly more sure than the word of God and its testimony as to who Jesus is and what he has accomplished on our behalf on the cross.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what the word teaches us is He was God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he is risen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What I say to you today, this Easter Sunday, do not disbelieve.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But believe.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And in believing in Jesus Christ, you have the promise of eternal life, peace with God, assurance of God's love, joy in the Holy Ghost, perseverance of belief therein to the end.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He is risen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You can know because the word of God says so.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The most sure thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So let's pray.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Holy Father, I pray that you would work in our hearts so that we might see your word as the surest foundation, that we might learn the lesson that Thomas learned, that there are glories that he ought to confess of you that are well beyond what he could see or touch.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But Lord, in your grace to him, it is sufficient for us to know that Thomas saw you, that the apostles bore witness to your resurrection.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, we trust your word spoken through your apostles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Lord, in trusting your word, we recognize that this is the firmest foundation that we could have.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We pray that you would work that truth into our hearts and that you might be glorified in it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We lift this up in Jesus' name.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Amen.
