In the Lobby Podcast
Bryan Pollard on Personal Branding, Data-Driven Fitness Coaching, and Dating with Intention
In this episode, we sit down with Bryan Pollard, a data-driven fitness coach. Bryan walks us through his data-driven approach to fitness, emphasizing how data customizes training strategies for unprecedented success. He shares his transformative fitness journey, revealing how dedication to fitness reshapes lives by instilling discipline and a focused mindset. We also discuss the importance of choosing a partner whose values align with your own.
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In this episode, we sit down with Bryan Pollard, a data-driven fitness coach. Bryan walks us through his data-driven approach to fitness, emphasizing how data customizes training strategies for unprecedented success. He shares his transformative fitness journey, revealing how dedication to fitness reshapes lives by instilling discipline and a focused mindset. We also discuss the importance of choosing a partner whose values align with your own.
You can follow Bryan Pollard:
@bryanpollardfitness
Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.
You can follow In the Lobby Podcast: @inthelobbypod
You can follow Cassandra Jean:
@paininmycass_
You can follow Roger Braxton:
@arrogee
My man is clean, clean, no no, no, I knew Brian was going to come, dressed so nice and I'm like literally in a Barbie t-shirt from Target. I was like this is not acceptable.
Speaker 1:I did Uber, or well, I did Urban Outfitters, and then in my Uber I'm like I don't know if I really like this shirt.
Speaker 2:I like that shirt.
Speaker 1:Urban has got something now and your artwork. Oh man, I'm an addict for math and this is like connected to some like ancient geometry stuff and I promise you I'll nerd out if you ask me too many questions I told brian.
Speaker 2:I told brian, though I was like he's gotta look nice because this personal brand that he's been building oh yeah so like it's just so gq like yeah everything that you're doing, and I don't even know if, if Roger knows this, but my original podcast I had maybe a year ago.
Speaker 2:I took you to coffee, went to go get coffee and I was like I really want you to come on my podcast and it didn't end up happening. But you've always been someone who believed in me and supported me and I think right after I left coffee with you, I went and recorded like a solo episode motivated oh my god he pushed me to go do it, and then I did the solo episode and it was so scary that's awesome.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's what, that's how you grow. You know, it's kind of stepping out of the zone and just doing the hard things and, um, you know, I feel like we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to, you know, be perfect or the ideal version of ourselves, but sure you only get there through reps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you know, go shoot the solo podcast, so what you know.
Speaker 3:If it sucks, like, keep it moving, go do another one, go do another one, like that's the same with content, like we were just talking about earlier.
Speaker 3:It's like, like you know, it's like, oh, your content is good. Well, I don't think it's good compared to a lot of people that I look to, of course, but you know, it's a lot better than when I started, and the only way I got better is just doing reps after reps after reps and like I think also a lot of times we think that people are paying attention to us more than they really are, and that's what I kind of try to remind myself, like I value myself, but I'm not as important as I think I am. And, like you know, especially in this fast-paced world where it's just like so much attention and people have attention spans of like four to five seconds, it's like they notice you for a second and then they forget about you, and so it's like, just go out there, do your thing, put in the reps, get better, do it for yourself and, you know, start to progress over time.
Speaker 1:You could tell it's genuine. I feel like I'm I'm motivated, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was just talking to him before we hit record because I was like he's not just like putting these videos out and being like motivating like he's practicing what he's preaching, and it's so cool to see just kind of how your career has transitioned, because when I first met with you you were still kind of going really hard in the real estate game and now you've put a little bit more focus on this like personal coaching, fitness coaching, and so I've got to kick it off with the intro. We've got to welcome Brian Pollard to In the Lobby podcast. You're a data driven fitness coach which I was giving him a hard time.
Speaker 1:I want to know what this means yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, thank you guys both having me. I'm excited to be here, you know, to kind of touch on the coaching business part. Yeah, it's a health data driven fitness coaching program and you know my word for this year and when I was really starting this business, is optimization, yeah, and really just becoming a better person holistically and becoming the most optimized versions of ourselves. And this is really where the essence of it all started and you know I was telling her. You know the ideal client avatar for me is like business owners and when you're running a business, it's all data driven right.
Speaker 3:And I feel like for a lot of the fitness industry with coaches and this is no jab at them, I mean I'm supporting anyone who's out there to help other people get better, for sure, but I feel like it's a guessing game and I want to kind of take the guesswork out of the picture. And so the way we do things is, you know, first we have blood work and then we use wearable technology like whoops and or rings and things of that nature to continuously optimize, because that allows us to see, like, where you are specifically, Because if you think about it like, let's say, you have two people the same gender, the same age, the same height, the same weight, with the same goals, nine times out of 10.
Speaker 1:Same thing is not going to work for all three.
Speaker 3:It's not going to work right. But a coach is going to give you the same workout nutrition plan and then you're going to go through it for a couple of weeks and then they're going to say, okay, well, I see you're not losing as much weight as you thought you could. So let's try to guess and make some changes on this side. But if I come to to you and like I'm looking at your blood work 48 different biomarkers down to the DNA I'm looking at your you know technology as far as, like your sleep, your strain, your recovery, your heart rate, all these different metrics Then I can really dive in and see what the heck is going on and make the proper adjustments, you know, based off of that. And that's kind of where it all came from, and it's it's a work in progress. With any business, you know, it's figuring out what works and what doesn't. But at least with the way that I'm doing it, I'm able to get an individualized picture on each client to make the best decision moving forward.
Speaker 1:I mean data is important and for you to go against the grain or status quo of what people are doing in the fitness industry. I'm sure that that's hard in its own respect, right, yeah, but you could tell again. You hear that passion that you have. You hear the investment that you have into not only just what you're doing, but these are people's lives. Like you're messing with their blood work, you're messing with their sleep. You are really tracking and taking a look at these things to make, like, appropriate decisions for them to adjust their life to be a better person, right?
Speaker 3:so you, you hear that and that's that's cool, honestly and it all started with, like, my personal transformation and it's like I've been on a six-year journey of this and you know, taking it back to my la days, like I'm from virginia born and raised.
Speaker 1:But I hear that sigh.
Speaker 3:Once you offer that side the six-year journey, you're like it's, it's hard man, it's super hard man, it's super hard, but I was very lost, yeah, in la, you know, just to be transparent with you guys, and I hear you it's like deep, deep, deep in a dark hole and I'm like how can I get out? And the only thing that I knew was like fitness and, like I said, it's been an up and down journey for the last six years but we're trending upwards for sure and, um, you know, like I said, bringing it back, it's like I just want to become optimized. You know, like a lot of people was like, oh, let's lose 30 pounds in 30 days. Or you know, let's do this and that, and for me, it's like I just want to be a better person overall. Yeah, and that's mentally, physically, emotionally, like, um, in business and our relationships, and like really just optimize ourselves.
Speaker 3:And you know, I always tell my friends like we got this one life, like let's just, let's maximize it to the absolute maximum.
Speaker 3:You know it's like and the only way that we can actually maximize our life is by being healthy. Yeah, and taking our fitness serious and like caring about ourselves and that's. You know I feel like, uh, you know, fitness is one of the best forms of like self-respect when you really take care of your bodies and, um, you know, also, like I see these people, you know, like that have these families and like I would do anything for my kids, you know I would do anything for my family, yeah, but will you go to the gym? You know, will you get healthy? And this is not taking a job, this is not negative, this is just reality. Yeah, let's really like take a look like what would you really do for your family? And, um, you know, I'm fortunate enough to have found this purpose and passion in the fitness industry and I'm excited for the future and this is like something I'll do for the next 60 years of my life. And you know, we're slowly starting and I'm excited to see where it goes.
Speaker 1:And I think me being on my journey. You say something that I really I would hope it sounds like either you're already saying it or if there's a way you can try to like package it in your own way, because you say it's so like in such a healthy way. It's like comparison is a thief of joy 100 and you're really like being intentional in each conversation, in each effort and each thing you're doing and it's it's remarkable, it's admirable. Honestly, thank you. So it is very honestly like it's a pleasure to meet you, um, and also to see another gentleman of color on the journey and doing, doing your thing and and multiple different uh, arenas and avenues of work, like it's truly an exciting time to have you on the podcast yeah, thank you, and I'll speak on that comparison thing.
Speaker 3:I think, absolutely, it's the, it's the thief of joy and yeah, it's just so prevalent in our dna. Everything, man, it's everything. I mean I catch myself daily comparing it but at the end of the day, like everybody's on their own journey, and that's, you can almost take pride in that. Yeah, and that takes some of the pressure off. And on this comparison thing, you know I got a couple thoughts.
Speaker 3:Is, you know, we're always, you know, not necessarily in comparison, but just on the growth in life, is that we're always looking. Once we get here, then we'll be happy, sure, right, and that can be with comparison, like if I was just like this guy, if I just had his talents, if I just had his hair right, if I just had his height, or, for women, especially if I just look like her, this, that and the other, we're always like if I was here, then I will be happy, right. And that's just such a toxic thing to you know, bring on yourself, there's so much pressure in that. And if we can alleviate that by, for example, a lot of people, they don't want a million dollars.
Speaker 3:They want the feeling that they think a million dollars is going to bring them. They don't care about being six, four or good, or having blonde hair, blue eyes. They just think that that feeling is going to make them happier. So if we can walk in that space and that feeling of what we think that thing is going to bring us, it takes the pressure off. And so that's what I've really been learning over the last six months.
Speaker 3:I wake up every day I feel like I'm the most successful, bad to the bone fitness coach, changing people's lives, optimizing people's lives, running a business that's service first. That's really getting results. That's caring about the people. I'm an amazing husband. I'm an amazing father. I have great friends. I'm a great friend and I live in that moment, despite it all having played out yet. And that takes the pressure off and that's all I can do because I feel it. I feel it to the core Like I'm there right and Like I'm I'm there Right, and it's just not up to me to say how or when that happens, but it's up to me to have that feeling before it happens.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll tell you, the audience is infectious, like I'm, like I hear you Can.
Speaker 2:I attend it. But also you just made me think of a conversation I had with my mom today, and I'm sure this probably gets brought up with. Like your female clients, do you know what Ozempic is?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like I work out all the time, like I'm eating healthy, and I was like looking at like some of the celebrities who have like lost a lot of weight recently.
Speaker 1:Taking Ozempic.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then you start getting in your own head of like, comparison, right, like I'm like, maybe I should take that Like I want to look like them, and it's such a thief of joy, so you just reiterating that to me, I'm like.
Speaker 2:That just meant so much to me, just hearing that come out of your mouth, you know so yeah and we were talking about too, like how different it looks being a fitness coach with, like, female clients versus male clients, and just like their bodies are so different, hormones are so different, and you were saying that maybe sometimes your female clients are a little bit easier to train than your male clients. Yeah, why is that?
Speaker 3:yeah, I would. I definitely agree it's. It's a very different spectrum. Um, and I don't know the word to, but, selfishly, I would prefer to work with men, simply because I don't feel authoritative enough to speak on a woman's behalf because I'm not in her body. I hear you, man, I don't go through those things. That doesn't mean I can't learn. Do the research, talk to women, you know, become educated in the, in the space, especially around hormones and cycles and so forth. Um, but yeah, well, like we were saying earlier, you know it is a different dynamic with with men and women, and I have probably split, split, half female, half male clients at this point.
Speaker 3:And you know my female clients, brittley is one of them and she's just absolutely amazing. She shows up to work, she asked the right questions, she said what can I do? I say this is what we got to do, like this is a nine month, 12 month journey for you For sure, setting the expectations. She's like, okay, you know, like I'll just follow the script, and that's what we call it. You just follow the script, or follow the recipe, right, and you know it's no bash on men, for sure, and I think you know, not in a negative space, but a little bit of ego gets involved. You got to play it.
Speaker 1:You know, and.
Speaker 3:I get it, I get it and you know, like I work with some dogs and they want to be dogs and it's just a balancing act, Right. And you know, as I'm building this business, I'm really like seeing who I like to work with most and who I don't like to work with most, so I can really niche down and be like this is a specific person I want to work with every day and just grow in that. And I think that's really where growth comes in businesses for, like riches are in the niches is what they say.
Speaker 1:And, um, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm playing it out relationship, that one, it seems very, very healthy and motivating. And I'm outside looking in and I'm just like this dude's got me pumped up.
Speaker 2:I know right, so motivating.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is a very positive experience. But where are you from? Where's home? Because you said, virginia, I'm an East Coast guy myself. And then what got you into fitness? Yeah, because, like I, I hear where you are present present day. The six year journey to get there, that's not easy, right, and it's a, it's a work in progress. Every day you're waking up with that mind state that the, the riches, are in the niches. That's dope. I like that. I don't know if I've heard it that way, but I like that and I'm going to steal that For sure. But I do need to understand, like for you to be so connected on this, like this level of journey for other people too, right, like what got you so connected and focusing on fitness?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a great question and I think it's just been the evolution of like life and, you know, I wish I could well, I can't pinpoint a couple life-changing moments that really pushed it down, but I think it's, you know, from the time I grew up. I'm from Lynchburg, virginia, a little small country town, and I think that, um, you know, a lot of my friends and family are still there and I love them to death, but I was always the type like I got to get out. There's just so much more in life and that's just what I want to really preach to people. It's just so much out there, we have this one little life and like we all think like we're going to live till we're 80, 90, 100 years old and that's just like very selfish to think that we're afforded that much time. And it's you know I'm saying this in a positive manner it's like let's really take advantage of the time that we do have and make the biggest change that we can have. And I think that starts with ourselves. Like how can you pour into other people if you don't fill your cup up first? Yeah, right, and so I played sports my whole life growing up.
Speaker 3:I unfortunately got hurt playing football my junior year of high school, so that ended any collegiate activities, yeah, and so I was in the fitness. You know the knee was bothering me, so I wasn't. Yeah, I'm surprised. I, the knee was bothering me, so I wasn't.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised. I thought you played some college football. You got quite the build on you, yeah.
Speaker 3:I wish, but I'm also grateful for the path that I did take, for sure, for sure. And so, you know, college, I worked out a little bit here and there, and then my senior year, I was just really focused on school. I wasn't at the gym, I was, you know, not confident in myself and my body. I body, I wasn't as healthy as I know I could be. I moved to LA for a girl at the time and I get caught up in the party scene. I'm just partying every weekend and going through the motions. Like I said, I was just in this deep dark hole and it got to a point where I have a picture and I think it's probably on my Instagram somewhere. It's like the side by side, and I took the picture and it was on Snapchat. Back when people use Snapchat Sure, I don't really use it anymore, but, um, the title was day one and I was like I woke up. I was just sick of being in that space, mediocre.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Really just just just sick of like not taking advantage of this beautiful, like life that God has given me, Right. And so I was like this is day one and from that day, like I said, it's been a been a roller coaster. Of course, I think success is not linear. It's definitely definitely has some, some highs and lows, but from that day forward I just made up in my mind, like from this day forward, like I'm going to prioritize, you know, my health and my fitness, so that I can bring into this world the most that I physically and emotionally can.
Speaker 1:And so that's kind of really where it all started for me and emotionally can, and so that's kind of really where it all started for me, and then I don't even mean to ask too much because I feel like I'm just so excited to one thank you for the introduction and you being here on the episode. But now I'm like do you explain that story every time you get a new client?
Speaker 3:or do they even care to ask, or do they just they get that experience right, like uh, not every time I've been reluctant to be as like uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Vocal, yeah, open or?
Speaker 3:because it can be intimidating it is intimidating and it's like a man. It's like a little bit embarrassing, I would say, to say that I was never, like always at the top of my game, yeah, but I think a lot of people can relate to it and that's really what inspires me today is just help the Brian from a year ago, six months ago, from six years ago, right, and I feel like you know, like in order to be a leader, you just have to be one step ahead of the person you're leading, yeah, and so all I'm doing is taking the skills and the mindset and the things that I've learned over this last six years of what's worked for me, what hasn't worked for me, and I'm just handing it on a plate to my clients and I'm like this is what I know, this is what's worked for me and Got me this far.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's got me this far and I'm still working, I'm still making progress, but as I grow, you're gonna grow with me, right, and we're gonna. A lot of it comes to, like our mentality, and that's really what I've been focusing on most, like recently, like I've been at the top of my fitness game but like still had a weak mind and so like I'm just really trying to strengthen the mind so much that you almost become unbreakable and you know that's. You know I'm sure you're going to ask about this later, but that's kind of where the 12 marathons and 12 months you know came from, you know came from is like, what goal can I set for myself? That is so big and so scary that I have to practice day in, day in, week in, week out, month in, month out for 12 months. Right, if I can do this for 12 months and then succeed at the end of the year, it's impossible for me to not have the mental fortitude but also the self-confidence in myself that I can do anything.
Speaker 3:I put my mind to right, because self-confidence doesn't come from standing in the mirror and saying affirmations to yourself or writing in your journal your gratitude all that stuff's important From betting on yourself, yeah, but it's making promises and then keeping them to ourselves. How many times do we say that we're going to do something and then don't do it, like even little things? Like I'm going to go to the gym today and then you don't go, and then that's subconsciously programming you to say, you know, it's okay to lie to yourself, I'm going to read this book. We get halfway through and quit, you know. And so to make a goal, like for me, like that was that intensive for that amount of time, I think you know, when I get to the end of the year, like I'll be really like self-confident and proud of myself, that like, like I really can do anything, and that's just going to reflect again in my business and my relationships and how I can serve my clients and friends. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:I always talk about that because, as you were saying, life, life goes by so fast, right, and it's like if you're showing up every day being consistent, it's like all of a sudden you'll wake up and you'll have achieved your goals because you were so consistent, you know along the way. So it's so, and I think honestly, brian, why I resonated with you so much when I first met you was you were telling me about your experiences in LA and that you hadn't always been at the top and you'd worked hard to become this version of yourself, and I think so many people can relate to that, because there's been so many times I'm in these dark depths of my own life and I think, for me personally, the one thing that's always pulled me out is like fitness, because anytime I get in the gym, I watch my mental health shift so much and I know you're in the gym, yeah, every day every day.
Speaker 2:I can't go without it yeah, I honestly have a hard time understanding how people function without working out at all, you know, because I feel like it affects your mental health so much. So, yeah, and I feel like just everything you're doing for your clients you're really advocating for both male and females mental health, health and their, like, fitness journey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think like people don't realize, like just you getting up and again, like making that commitment to yourself, I'm going to go to the gym and just going there. You may not have to have like the most elitist workout, but just getting there that means so much to your day, so much to your circadian rhythm.
Speaker 3:It's incredible. And not to cut you off, no yeah.
Speaker 3:It's like that's what I preach. It's like we just have to start Start. Yeah, really, you just have to start. And this, like for me, like I'm so grateful for my friends and my mentors, it's like even for the business, it was paralysis analysis, like, like, just take the first step with content, just post the first post. Right, like Mr Beast, he's the best content creator ever. It's insane. And he's like you can't even judge your content until you have a thousand posts.
Speaker 3:Right, you might not feel like going to the gym, but get up and just drive to the gym, walk in there, take a lap stretch and then come home, but just getting that in that motion. But, like you said, fitness definitely, uh, helps you mentally. I mean, it releases endorphins and there's so many benefits to to fitness. And, um, you were saying something earlier I wanted to allude to, but, um, you know, just creating that discipline, like there's so much freedom and discipline, right, people think that discipline restricts you. Discipline creates that freedom because you're no longer uh, you know, for lack of better words a slave to your, to your desires and your and your wants. Right, you're no longer, you know, for lack of better words a slave to your, to your desires and your and your wants, right? You're no longer just a victim of every little thing, right? You just don't give in to everything. Right? If you want more time, you have to have more time discipline, more time management. If you want more, better results in the gym, you have to have more discipline. If you want more financial success, you have to have more discipline with your finances. Just, they just go hand in hand, freedom and discipline.
Speaker 3:And one more thing I'll add is you know, in the world of fitness and just in life, like I always encourage people to do hard stuff, right, and I was listening to an Andrew Huberman podcast it was with David Goggins and I'm not a neuroscientist, but he was explaining that there's these studies that have been done where there's a part in your brain that is responsible for willpower, sure, and the way that it grows is neuroplastic or however, the neuroplasticity neuroplasticity so it can grow and it can shrink, and the way to grow it is to wake up and do hard stuff. Now, this is like that can look like anything to anybody. That can be just going to the gym and doing a 10 minute workout, or it can be running a marathon every month Right, but doing those hard things over and over and over again. He says that increases your willpower or, better yet, your will to live. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome. I think a lot of times like we almost are so comfortable sitting in complacency and it's like doing anything that's hard and is going to move you towards your goals is going to be a little bit uncomfortable yeah and it's so easy just to like sit at home on your sofa with a throw blanket and be comfy, cozy.
Speaker 2:It's really uncomfortable to get up at 5 am when it's cold outside and go to the gym, and so I was telling Roger this the other day because cause we've been really busy working on the podcast and I'll get really stressed. And I'll tell him. This is good, though, because we're not sitting on in our comfort zones any longer. When you're stressed and uncomfortable, it's usually cause you're pushing yourself towards something, and I mean I see your posts like you're up at the crack of dawn, so I can only think that you have like a set of routines, probably like a morning routine. I don't know if you have an evening routine, but I want to know what someone like you, what your day looks like when you first get out of bed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, of course it's pretty systematic. For me at this point in my life it's almost the same day every day. But yeah, we wake up, you know, first thing I do is pray Um, that's super important to me. And then I practice some breath work 60 seconds, um, which really just gets the uh, you know, your, your nervous system regulated Right. And then, um, and then we start the day. You know, uh, some meditation, with work, along with the breath work and really just framing the mind. How long do you meditate? Again, you know, five, ten minutes, it kind of just depends. So I actually have a breath work coach, brittley, one of my clients.
Speaker 3:So, she sends me a breath work slash, meditation, self-guided. That's awesome, and so you know just getting my head in that space, because a lot of the actions that we do like are funded by our subconscious right. And what I used to do and what really was a disadvantage for myself is I'd wake up and first thing I would do is get on my phone. Oh yeah, that's where that comparison comes in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it just, it's just the easiest way to like not have a good day, because you're already first thing in the morning and you're, and you're rushing Right, and you're just getting that little dopamine hit like every two seconds, scrolling and scrolling and scrolling, and then your whole day goes through that. You feel like you're behind, you feel like you're rushed, you feel like you're not doing enough and all these negative connotations come with that, and so what I've done is like no phone for the first hour. When I wake up, you know, I, like I said, I wake up, I pray, I do my breath work, I do my meditation, I take a cold shower, you know, I stretch, get my body moving and then I start my day.
Speaker 2:I think the hardest thing, too, is when you do that people can take you as rude and you're like wait, I'm not being rude, like I'm like I just I never answer my phone until after 10 am. I think they respect it A hundred percent.
Speaker 3:People feel like with these phones is that they have automatic access to you. Absolutely not I tell my clients, like you got 24-7 access to me, right, but there's boundaries to it, you know, and I'll get to the message when I get to it, the message when I get to it. There's nothing that pressing in my life or other people's lives that I can't wait an hour, right. And if it can't call me, right, we can address that.
Speaker 1:And it's not like I'm going to ignore anybody, like I'm going to. We're all going to do our best for each other.
Speaker 2:Some people are so annoying, They'll like hit the question mark. They'll hit the exclamation. I'm like can you give me like five minutes?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, and it's, it's, it's you know, it's sad, but it's you know. Again it comes back to the phones.
Speaker 3:It's just people think that they can have yeah access to you and that really like takes away from how you're able to show up for other people. You know, if you're just giving everybody your unlimited attention and access to you, it just really clouds like how you're able to, um, carry yourself and, you know, pour into other people. And then for the night routine, again, no phone an hour before bed. And one thing I ask myself every night is what went well today? I think what I used to do is like what could I have done better today? But I no longer focus on the negatives, it's just the positives. What went well today?
Speaker 3:I write out a list, I think about it and then, um, you know, I think for me, like when I'm sleeping, I'm subconsciously like the last thing I think about is all the positive that happened throughout the day. And so, like I'm sleeping on it, I'm subconsciously like rewiring my brain to like think positive, positive, positive, positive. And then I wake up in the morning positive, because I'm not thinking about, oh, I didn't, didn't do this, this and this today.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking oh, I'm so grateful for another day. Let's have another day, like we did yesterday, and that just kind of sets the tone for the day, when we're already waking up in that positive framework.
Speaker 1:It's awesome. I know I'm definitely guilty of that negative thought at the end of the day and it's motivation, like for me. I'm a very competitive person so I know that if I can ask myself that question like hey, what did I not do well today? Or like, what could I improve on, it's always been a driving force for me. And that is you bring up such a good point that it's the end of my day and I really should adjust that to be positive for sure, because I think it's important to have those conversations yeah, oh, I do yeah what didn't go right.
Speaker 3:But you have to take a temperature gauge on life. We have to be realistic, but you know, at the end of the day it's like let's put the phones away, let's, you know, imagine like scrolling for the last hour in bed and then the last thing you see is like a girl or a guy you wish you were like, and then you go to sleep subconsciously you're not thinking about it subconscious is there, yeah, it's there, and then you wake up and do the same thing over and over, and over and over and over again.
Speaker 3:How can you not just be a nervous system wreck of like in this comparison trap?
Speaker 2:really well it's like you're they say that you, your mind doesn't know what's real or not sometimes, so then it's like looking at social media or like watching a lot of tv. It's like taking away from, like, the reality of your internal world, kind of.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then the other thing I think about too is these routines are like so important, like I love what you're saying, like do journal too, or like okay. What I feel like is hard is if you're dating, trying to bring someone in, and then still keeping those routines right as you're trying to date someone else. Like no, sorry, honey, like you know, I don't answer my phone past this time or I've got to go work out in the morning. I'm sorry, I'm not going to lay in bed and snuggle you. I find that discipline becomes a little bit harder when you add someone else in your life, so I don't. Are you? Are you single? Are you dating Single?
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, um, I'm beginning to open the door to dating. I haven't for a while. Um, just because it was really like self love.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just had to. Um, you know how, how can I ask for a woman to bring me all these attributes when I can't even show up for myself, sure, and I feel like that's just not a recipe for a healthy relationship. And so I had a lot of things that I needed to work on, and I'm still working on, of course. But you know, I kind of felt with dating, like, for me it's like I think about it, I expect a lot, you know, and I feel like I'm not to the level that I need to be to ask for that. But I think that there's a balance to that, because we're gonna grow at least most of us, I hope sure for for the rest of our lives, right, so we're not ever going to be at that top level, you know, and if we wait till we're at that top level again, the goalpost moves and moves, and moves and we'll never be ready for a relationship.
Speaker 3:Um, so now I'm gonna be alone by itself for a long time, 100, 100. And so I've kind of come to the grips of like, okay, I'm in a good space. Like you know, the business is making money. Yep, you know, I'm healthy mentally, emotionally, um, I'm healed from a lot of things, and so now I'm starting to open the door, um. But it definitely brings a level of distraction for lack of better words when you do bring that partner into um, into the field. But that's why I think it's super important to pick the right partner, and I think people get lonely and impatient so they just bring in somebody to fill that void because they're in not in the best space yeah and that's where you know we see all these divorce rates.
Speaker 3:Like what is it? 50 of people that get married get divorced yeah, it may even be higher, honestly and it's like we're just trying to have somebody at least that's the way I look at it to fill the void that we have to fix on our own.
Speaker 1:And I think a lot of people are afraid to fall in love. Right Like, falling in love takes time. Yeah, Everybody wants to fall in love fast and there's a difference in that. Right Like, you could have somebody fill that seat fast, but to fall in love, that's a process and it does take that discipline that you bring up. But discipline creates distance and the wrong person can take that as counter cyclical and it goes against the grain versus the right person is like that's more attractive to me because I know that you're focused and you're healthy and you're grounded and you're going to be able to bring more value to me when we are together. So I can only imagine, like what that looks like. Yeah, but I think you just keep both of you. Honestly, this is all just a very healthy conversation and you're offering some good jewels around this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I mean, I can't even imagine you dating someone who like wasn't living like a healthy lifestyle and like working out, because it's like what? This sounds bad, but it's like what's the value add If you're adding. It's like you know.
Speaker 1:It's almost like they're getting free coaching, yeah, which is unfair to you, right, right.
Speaker 2:I think I've dated a few guys where they were pretty fit and I was like this is good, because I'll learn how to work out now, yeah, I don't mind offering my expertise, but, yeah, like you said, it's important to find a partner with shared values.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and if I feel like I'm just dragging you along, that's not helping anybody, right, and so, yeah, I mean definitely, you know, into fitness and into health and that way we can complement each other and I don't feel like, like I said, I'm dragging you along, so that's super important.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I honestly like I'm just so in awe of you kind of hearing you say that, as a man that you like have taken the time to like work on yourself, like I have so much respect for it, um, cause I've told you this before, I really look at you as like a high value man, someone who's like really pouring into himself physically, mentally, financially, working on a business. So I'm like you know, if you do start dating and you're looking for that person, what kind of characteristics do you look for in a woman? Or you know what's inspiring to you in someone that you're like looking at dating?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a. That's a great question. Um, I think, first and foremost, it's just a godly woman, like a God-bearing woman. That's super important to me. I think, um, you know, as I'm growing in my relationship with God, which is, you know, something I take as important, um, you know, I want my wife to be too, and that's just going to trickle the values of how she um treats me, how she treats our family, how she treats her kids, how she treats herself, um, so that's number one. Uh, number two is family. Family is important to me, um, and so you know, I definitely love a woman that prioritizes family. Do you have relatives? I do have relatives. Okay, I don't have any siblings, but I have relatives.
Speaker 1:Okay or yeah, I guess sorry siblings, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2:Are you an only child? I am Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm adopted by my grandparents.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool.
Speaker 1:He's like you have relatives, you idiot.
Speaker 3:I do have relatives, but no siblings. That's on me, I'm sorry. No, no worries, it's still the family dynamic, you know. Especially, I think, as the world is moving, there's less importance on family and more importance on like self, and you know, everybody wants to be a boss, and this, that and the other. The way that I view things is I want my wife and the mother of my children to put family over everything, except God, of course. You know, shared the my wife and the mother of my children to put family over everything, except god, of course.
Speaker 3:um, you know shared values we talked about that. Um, support is super important. I mean, entrepreneurship is hard and, as you said, discipline causes distance. Um, you know, if she is always looking at me like, oh, you're not devoted to me enough because I'm growing my business, like that just creates a stress that I just don't have the room for, and so it's like I'm doing this for us, right, I'm doing this for us, I'm going to take care of you, I'm going to take care of our family, I'm going to take care of everything, but this is where I'm at in my life right now and it's not always going to. It's like, you know, you're just slowing me down for lack of better words.
Speaker 3:Um, also, I think loyalty is very important. I think it's extremely important how your partner speaks about you in a room that you're not in, especially to their friends, absolutely, and I think people overlook that a little bit because you know, you know girls and guys, you know we have a problem in our relationship. We love to go back and tell our friends, yeah, I never do it.
Speaker 3:I never do it and it's like people don't realize that the damage that's causing because now, not only are your friends looking at your partner like they're not worth a darn, you know it's like also creating a distrust. It's like this is our business. You know this is our relationship. Let's hash things out Like I'll never go disrespect my partner to my friends and I think that's just a part of a loyalty piece is how they're showing up in the room for you. You know discipline and the fitness, you know things of that nature, but you know those are the main characteristics for me.
Speaker 1:And you bring up a good point there too about like letting others into your relationship, no matter what the relationship is. It's like you're opening the door of their traumas and their insecurities and their issues to then be welcomed into yours, which is tough. Like that can affect your business, that can affect your dating relationship. You have to make sure, just how you're picky about your mentors that are around you, you got to be picky about those friends that are involved in your relationship. You gotta be picky about what you expose them to, because not everybody's gonna forgive as fast as those two partners will and then they don't forget, yeah, they don't forget, and they're not.
Speaker 3:They're not seeing the good stuff. You rarely go back and rave on them. Exactly you know you're only talking about the bad stuff. And again, I think there's important pieces of friendships. Like I have my boys and when I'm going through it, like you know, I'll talk to my boys. I think that's super important, but I'm not always bringing in my partner's business into other people's rooms. I just don't think that's important.
Speaker 1:There's a line.
Speaker 3:There's a line and you know, one more thing that I would just a little bit of polarizing, I think, in today's world is like I, as alpha male, like I want my partner to be willing to be led. Yeah, you know, I want to be the leader in my relationship.
Speaker 1:You talk about this.
Speaker 3:And I think a lot of times like Western culture is really driven women to hate men yeah, a lot of times like Western culture has really driven women to hate men, oh yeah, and I'm not saying that that's bad, but there's definitely a lot of beta males out there that don't deserve to be a leader. So I recognize that and I empathize for that. But if a man is showing up and respects himself and respects you and shows up every day as an alpha man and gets the job done and can lead and support, um, I think that's super important and um, you know, that's what I look for in a partner. I don't need, you know, an argumentative partner, I need a collaborative, a collaborative partner. Yeah, you know so and yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Well, I was at a. I was at a wedding last night and they're a beautiful couple and in his vows he said to his future wife he said I promise to provide and protect you. And I thought that was so beautiful because I mean to me that's what an alpha male does, right, he will provide and protect you. And that's when a woman will feel safe to submit to you, like not submit, just, you know, do whatever. But like submit and let you lead and be like the CEO of the family. And she's more like the COO is how I look at it More of the operations you know, with the kids running the home, but to me the Mel in the relationship is the leader.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we talk about that all the time, because I feel like I have a hard time finding a male that I want to lead me, because as a woman, you want someone better, faster, stronger, better, and I'm not saying that I'm so great, but it's going to take someone special for sure. Because I mean I don't, I don't want to have children with someone if they can't provide for a family, and that's why I've never had children, because for me I don't want to outside of marriage and I would never have children unless I knew that my partner could provide for our family, and it's not like you know, times get hard. Someone could lose their job or something could happen.
Speaker 2:Your finances aren't always going to be perfect, but it's someone that has like the drive and motivation, and we know together, no matter what you're gonna figure it out we're gonna figure this shit out together yeah, that's healthy so, but I also feel like I also have a problem with being really independent he sees this all the time, even in our business relationship for sure so there is kind of like this female movement.
Speaker 1:I feel like where we're and I don't think we're not saying anything negative about it.
Speaker 2:It's just like you're bringing up good points I'm just like I wonder for you, like both of you guys, in your dating experiences, is it hard to find a woman that wants to be led like? Are they? Because I know even myself I can be like feisty and push back?
Speaker 1:I think you both bring it up in the right way, where it's like you ask the question correctly and you said it correctly, where I think the the western culture is is set up right now to hate men, um, um, and that's okay. Like, yeah, I feel that when you said that, I feel that, I feel like.
Speaker 2:I feel like even I I see that message happening in my own life Like just go get your own money, go be alone, go do self love.
Speaker 1:Sit at home with your cat and wear a face mask and it'll all work out fine and I'm like, great, I'm going to be 50, crying myself to sleep every night because I didn't build a family and a home and I think, the narrative's not good, it's not, and with a narrative not being good, I think people are very quick to demonize people for mistakes, rather than the idea that people are growing, people are learning a hundred percent and it's a process, it's a ride, it's a journey, yeah, and you're not going to be perfect every day, correct.
Speaker 1:And there's another thing too. Again, I feel like you kind of say it without saying it. It's like you know what you know and you don't know what you don't know Right. So until you make that mistake, yes, there may be casualties to that war at life and some people may feel it a little bit differently than others. But that doesn't make you the devil. It makes you someone who was wrong and you owe an apology or you got to fix it or grow or become better and go on that journey. But I do think Western culture is setting it up where men right now are just living in this space of like. I fucking hate you.
Speaker 3:And there's so many caveats to this, right, yeah, and so it is hard I think the answer to your question. It is hard it's, it's hard and, like I said, it's a lot of caveats, like I'm all about empowering women right, yeah, absolutely I can't live without them yeah but like, at the same time, you know, in this western culture, they have I'll say the word tricked women into thinking they don't need men yeah and I just don't think that's true and I'm just being completely honest, that's what you guys want it so yeah but it goes both ways sometimes.
Speaker 1:There's some men right now being tricked that they think they don't need women, of course, and that's where it starts like there's a lot of beta males out here that think they're women yeah, yeah To really let's talk about that.
Speaker 3:No, it's fair. And in order for a woman to be submissive, you gotta be a leader. Let's not forget that. And that's financially, that's protecting, that's emotionally right, that's mentally like. There's areas of leadership that you have to step up and lead in.
Speaker 3:And, like you said, you're a high value woman.
Speaker 3:You have self-respect for yourself, you show up for yourself, right, and so when picking a partner, like, of course, you're not going to pick a guy who's a slob, who doesn't show up to for himself, how's he, how's he going to show up for you if he's not showing up for himself?
Speaker 3:Right, absolutely. And um, I one other thing is like, like I said, I'm always going to empower women, for sure, but I think we live in a culture now it's like where it's it's teaching women that they don't need men and that they should go out there and they should have their own, you know, run their own business and have their own families and do all this stuff and take it all on their shoulders. Um, when, in reality, like if you're going to be a slave to all those things but not submit to your husband, like, where's that incongruence at? Yeah, you know, it's like you'll submit to all these things like your job or your business, or you know whatever the case may be, but you won't submit to a leader. Your husband is. It's an incongruence there for me.
Speaker 1:And I could bring it. I want to bring it back to something you said on the beginning of the episode. It's about finding the balance. You said at the beginning of the episode you help people find the balance of being that data driven personal trainer. It seems like almost at this point you're a life coach baby, but you're adding, you are adding high value and I mean again, think very highly of, like, the information you're putting out there, the way in which this is going to reach the audience.
Speaker 1:But truly, a lot of that does show up. It's the balance stuff. You know you have to be able to balance it all because I don't think it's one man or woman's responsibility to do it all alone. And I don't care if you like he, she, they, them, this that whatever you do like it's a matter of partnership. It's a matter of being fair and even, and that's not every day. It's going to be 50, 50,. Some days it's 60-40. Some days it's 70-30. But just fight to get back and get even and be fair to the other person. Be like hey, you had my back those other two days. Let me show up for you a little bit more. Take some time off, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I think we need that partnership because there's so much going on in life like trying to provide an income. Both work out. You want to have kids. Like no one can do this all alone.
Speaker 3:That's impossible. We're not meant to do it. No.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'm like doing my laundry and I'm like crying because I'm like, look, I worked so many hours. I mean, someone just like cooked me a meal tonight.
Speaker 2:I'm like something's not right here and I don't even have kids, and I mean it's it's not even just saying that like you have kids and like the feminine is like the only one taking care of them and then the man's out working. It's like partnership and everything Right. Like if my husband came to me and he was like my cup's 20% full or I only have 20% today, I'd be like, don't worry, I got the other 80%.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'll add to that. I think in the partnership it's the thing that really separates. It is like the attitude that you bring to it of like wanting to. Yeah, I want to go out of my way to this, I want to bless my tail for my wife. Same with the wife or our partner. It's like I want to take care and make sure my husband's happy and it's a decision every day decision and and there's it's.
Speaker 3:You know, different partners got to find pride in that right. Like I like find joy and the sacrifice that I have to make for my partner and I think not everybody has that viewpoint anymore it's like, well, why should I do this? What did you do for me? And that's just very unhealthy in a relationship. It's like you're only. That's unconditional, like true, conditional love. I'm doing this, despite anything else, because I actually love you and I actually care about you and I actually want to see the best in you, and so I'm willing to go make the sacrifices that I need to make to better your life over mine. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I don't even want to verb it any other way.
Speaker 2:That's so good. I mean, I really think the right person will like motivate you to show up as an even better version of yourself, like there's even been people I've dated that were like so inspiring to me that I started pushing harder at my own life because I was like, wow, look at what this person's doing like as you're around them yeah, because I was around them, I was like I can step it up further with what I'm doing and that's like I want to be with a man who inspires me and motivates me and within that partnership, you know, and I can't see like what you're saying, I can't see you with anyone.
Speaker 2:that wouldn't be that way.
Speaker 1:So y'all are bringing up some, some good, thoughtful stuff, but I want some juicy shit. Like what's your? Uh, what's your? What's your worst date? I want your worst dating story Cause, like there's got again, there's got again. This is like you're motivated for a reason, like there's got to be something that was like this, this traumatic thing.
Speaker 3:I was like I'm good yeah, yeah, I should be careful how. The first thing that comes to mind is like I was catfished one time and I want to be respectful, but there's a disrespect in like portraying someone you're not Someone, you're not Someone, you're not, and so I remember it, I remember it vividly. I was like, wow, Like I just got catfished. But I'll be honest, Like you know, I had a serious girlfriend for an extended know, an extended amount of time post-college, and so that was like my only like legit, you know, girlfriend.
Speaker 3:Awesome, For the most part, I've kind of dated here and there, but I think that what apprehended or caused the relationship not to work is myself and like I was talking about, like there were some things that I needed to work on, and so I've been constantly growing myself to kind of fill these voids, um, especially around like the emotional aspect. I feel like, um, you know, I genuine connection and so, like I said, I'm like slowly starting to open the door um to that world as I start to, you know, have that inner healing of myself, and so nothing like super, super duper juicy.
Speaker 3:Um, but you know, it's, it's, it's a journey.
Speaker 1:I think at the end of the day it's it's still something that you were like. Sitting in that moment, you're like I'm being catfished Like that third eye, that bird's eye view, as you're sitting in that moment. Like that's it's crazy, I'm sure I was mad.
Speaker 3:I brought it up. I was like I don't want to be rude, but like I don't know. It was like bad, like it was like indistinguishable. Sometimes you're like oof, but this was like whoa.
Speaker 1:In those moments, too, it makes you realize what in the world would motivate somebody to want to do that. It's not like they're not going to get caught.
Speaker 3:For sure, for sure, and also it's again like Because they still wanted to meet up with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Yeah and has, because they still wanted to meet up with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Has the separate worked? Yes, like reaffirmed what you were doing.
Speaker 2:They were trying to get on that show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that fish show Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But I love what you were talking about in terms of your emotional intelligence. Yeah, as a man, that's so beautiful that you're so self-aware about that, because I mean, I've done, I've tried to understand the difference between men and women so many times because I do think we function in so many different ways. Have you ever heard of that book, like why men are from Mars and women are from Venus?
Speaker 1:I've heard of it never, oh my god, I think it was written like 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:I was like this doesn't make any sense. The only thing I got out of it is we're from two fucking different planets, you know, but we do like communicate in such different ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Where women can be like so emotional and so clingy, and then I'm just talking for myself, you know, like I know I can be a ball of emotions. And then with guys I'm dating, I'm like, why am I not? We just function so different and we have to understand that, you know.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't make you wrong either.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like it doesn't. I think those are like journey things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Moments Well, being able to receive love too. That's not an easy thing.
Speaker 3:You hit the nail on the head with that one, and that's you know. Really, what I'm working on is like just receiving yeah, yeah. I feel like I have to go do it all myself, um, and I think that closes a lot of doors to a lot of good things, like in my relationships, in business, in life. Is that not the willingness to receive? And I think, um, that's just super important and that's funny. You brought that up.
Speaker 2:That's something I'm definitely yeah, well, I think sometimes when you let go a little bit not not doing the work, but when you let go a little and soften a little, like good things come to you, you know, and we we can receive those things in that moment. But it's hard when you're so disciplined to let go and accept that I think you know?
Speaker 3:yeah, I mean, I think it's men were inherently wanted to be like in control of all things. Yes, I think there is time to you know, release and, and you know, receive that love for sure.
Speaker 1:I think too, is like I just want to really protect the idea that you run a business. You are giving out some really good Jewels here. I'm like I'm ready, I'm serious ready, I feel like in like five years from now. Yeah, I'm gonna go to a TED talk here I'm like, I'm ready, I'm serious, I'm ready.
Speaker 3:I feel like in like five years from now I'm literally gonna go to a ted talk and I'm like I was your number one. We'll run this back and forth. It'd be fun to see what's about that.
Speaker 1:I want to definitely protect it because people are getting some good stuff out of this episode one.
Speaker 3:But like even me, like just sitting here being a co-host right, he's so inspiring, yeah, I just want to like to that it's like this is just coming just from myself and my personal experience. For sure, all with love, yeah.
Speaker 1:But you can feel it Like we're seeing it and we feel it. I hope the audience does as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 100%, and I'm not saying this way, or the highway, or you have to do this. This my experience, this is where I'm at in life. Things could be different in five years, but this is the viewpoint that I'm viewing in life right now and, um, I think authenticity and ingenuity is, um, something I value a lot and like, if I, this is just what you're going to get, what you get, what I say is what you're going to get. And so I just, you know, to everybody out there, like I have like some polarizing opinions and you know, I think it should be this way or that way. Like that's your life and that's the beauty of life is that you get to construct it any way you would like. Absolutely, this is just how I'm constructing my life, and I think, um the more that we're genuine, authentic to ourselves, we can attract people that share those same values, and that's beautiful. And, yeah, all, uh, welcome to our own opinions. That's, that's the beauty of life.
Speaker 1:Well, I want to make sure, too, we give you that safe stage to ask just our true question. We want to make sure everybody has a safe stage to answer. What do you feel or what has been brought to your attention or what would you like to clarify on of like, what's your biggest misconception about you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's funny because I was teed up for this one. So I asked one of my, one of my homegirls, I asked a couple of them. They all had the same response.
Speaker 2:I love it I love this.
Speaker 3:Where is she at? She said. To be honest, I think that people assume you're a typical player awesome douche guy, yeah, if you know what I mean. But in reality you're one of the most intentional and genuine friends I've ever had.
Speaker 3:so that's awesome, so beautiful, that's very sweet I think that just the confidence and the aura that I give off when I walk into the room, I'm very like, confident in myself. Um, it can be a little demeaning for lack of better words to to the people around me, but at the end of the day, like um, I I love, I love hard and I care nothing but the best for people and and I want nothing for the best of people. I hear you. I think it's important to have a backbone and be secure in what you believe, but at the end of the day, I just want to love hard. And so a lot of misconceptions when people first meet me is I'm just a typical Austin douche, but it takes some time to get to know me.
Speaker 1:You got some light-skinned struggles, my man. I'm thinking a typical Austin douche, but it takes some time to get to know me. You got some light-skinned struggles, my man.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm thinking that too, though, because I'm like, hey, yeah, like Brian's like a good-looking guy, it makes sense, with like the Austin dating scene, that people would be like perceiving you that way. I actually had one of my girlfriends. She was like do you know this guy? And it was you. Like uh-oh she was like I found him, he's cute, and I was like I don't know, I'll shoot your shot.
Speaker 1:Dude, I'll be backing you up the whole way. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2:So we'll close it out. But before we close it out, we want people to be able to follow, like the great content you're putting out when can people stalk your social stuff on instagram?
Speaker 3:are you most respectful stalking? We say respectful, no, stalk on hit heart on every video uh it's brian pollard fitness, and that's brian with a y b-r-o-y-a-n pollard fitness, um, and that's across the board um are you on tiktok? I'm on tiktok.
Speaker 2:Okay, awesome I'm trying, trying to learn TikTok. I feel like I'm like a millennial that still doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 1:It's scary. It's like do we invest time in TikTok now that it just got banned? Like what's the story right now? It's hard.
Speaker 3:It's hard and I'm definitely not on top of TikTok as I should be. I think it's a great platform to get your word out. Like you can go from zero views to a million views just on one video For sure, whereas, like, instagram works more in an algorithm. Yeah, so I think it's a great tool. I haven't quite figured it out, but it's also a lot of good information on TikTok. Oh yeah, people want to ban it and I think there's probably some good reason around, like why, why? But I don't know if a complete ban is a great thing because there is a lot of good information and resource out there. But that's probably a conversation for another day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. Well, we want to make sure everybody comes back to the next episode. It was a pleasure to have you, man Brian. You're a dope dude. Cass, thank you so much for aligning somebody in your network and community to come.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm like fangirl over here. On this one too, I'm like the wisdom you're spitting out.
Speaker 1:I was like this is so cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're just so authentically yourself, and that's what I love and appreciate about you, and the fact that you're sharing that with the world your routines and your habits is just so inspiring. And so then we always close this out like the cheesiest way ever.
Speaker 1:Come back next week, because you know what's going down.
Speaker 2:In the lobby. Woo, that was so good. Thank you.
