Podcast Segment Amathongo Episode 2 - Are some of our traditions miseducation ?

Send us a textIn this episode we will be tackling the topic of Are some of our traditions miseducationI had to ask a few people to send me their views on this topic so we get to understand it in different concepts. I came to the realization that some traditions are miseducation, that can hinder the livelihood of our growth as people as abantu boNtu and understanding and opening ourselves to the ever evolving world. Let me not take too much of your time and welcome Menzi ka Gudu Mase...

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

The spiritual journey is one that is defined by divine spirit through astrological signs, guided by divine gods, ancestral energy, and one's birthright. Yindon Yamansi, in Tombian Kosi, chosen to walk in this dimension, to heal through sound and vibrations. I invite you to heal with your soul as we become one with the universe, with nature, through all elements given by our gods. Welcome, divine souls. Let's begin. In this episode, we'll be tackling the topic of are some of our traditions miseducation. I had to ask a few people to send me their views on this topic so we get to understand it in different concepts. I came to the realization that some traditions are miseducation that can hinder the livelihood of our growth as people as Abantu Buntu and understanding and opening ourselves to the ever-evolving world. Let me not take too much of your time and welcome Menzi, Kakutu, Maseko, and Khosi Kadi to tell us their views on this topic.

SPEAKER_02 1:17

Traditions, customs, and beliefs that we've been told have been passed out from generation to generation. These are supposed acts that our forefathers used to engage in, and we as a particular lineage all have our own little uh beliefs and customs. Or do we let's delve into that? Um let me break it down. Tradition is a new mark, a symbol, food, drink, literature, and the likes that the powers that we allow you and have decided for you that that is a part of your people's history. But if you look closely, you will find that they are recurring symbols that one can trace back to ancient times. You can also find them across religions and societies. Those are the keys to the real tradition. Not wearing black when someone else dies or um follow patriarchal gender roles that have been told that this is what our people believed in. Gender roles, gender roles. The miseducation of traditions is on a worldwide scale, so much so that the people who actually know what their forefathers truly worshiped are scarce. These symbols that I talk about, um, that I say are recurring symbols, and what you'll find them nowadays is modernized, is you'll find a modernized version of it. It's symbols such as the Anch that have been modified to the Christian cross, where their Lord Jesus Christ was allegedly crucified. But other signs such as the Masonic royal rich apron, the seal of Satan, the Eye of Providence, that you will find across multinational logos. It's all these signs or symbols that have been modernized and sort of hidden. Tradition is the modernized physical manifestation of spiritual symbols. To hide knowledge and esoteric wisdom, physical and tangible ornaments are created that use the intangible that are symbols. Let me say that again. Tradition is the modernized physical manifestation of spiritual symbols. This is done to hide knowledge and esoteric wisdom through these physical and tangible ornaments that they create to house the intangible that are these symbols. So, symbolism is the marker in the tangibles for the intangible. If you really want to find out what actual traditions are, you don't go out and ask. You go within and ask there. I'll delve even more. Things like river cleansers, morning clothes, um, morning clothes, uh, eating utensils, slaughtering of animals are tangibles that hide an esoteric meaning. The propaganda machines hide the truth in words like facts and create libraries of lies binded in hardcovers, which are agreed upon by groups of men and women who control the joystick of our societies. So, can we honestly say that this is something that was passed down from generation to generation, that our forefathers actually did these things when it's a group of people that decided that no, let these people celebrate like this, let these people do this and tell them it's their tradition, tell them it's facts. Yeah, create a book, uh, have it be published by a publishing company and have it be written by an author, and then tell them it's facts. Yeah, they they won't question it if we say it's a fact. What this actually is, is the wealthy taking a piss on us and the media telling us it's rain. What is really real? If you have to really, really ask and dove. I mean, let's look at it. A woman decided to wear black clothes to mourn her dead husband. Then a nation adopted that as how should we must wear black because you're mourning, all because of one white lady who decided to mourn her husband by wearing black every day. Then you have leaders of countries that took a decision on how they would be Christians. So Christianity was created by a group, and then some didn't like that sort of version, and they went and they created their own, but within the Christian realms, they created attire for these breakaways called denominations, and now we have Digerek A M E, Bo Four, Bo Methodist, all whose colours can be traced back to European country flags, and this is tradition. Okay, a woman on her periods in many religions and cultures is deemed to be unclean, she's said to be impure, she must hide, even to hide the fact that she is God and her blood is one of the most powerful elixir you will ever find on planet Earth. For the woman to never actually realize her power, she is said to be inferior. She's said to be unclean when she's on a period. She can't even touch certain things in some churches, so that she can never ever fathom the fact that she is the creator, that her blood is an elixir of life. Slavery is taught as our history to hide the fact that we are warriors who defeated many a Neanderthal and we ruled the earth. We taught Neanderthal civilization, we taught them mathematics, heavens, we introduced them to soap and water, but today they call us barbarians. The question cannot be is tradition miseducation. We have been miseducated since the overthrowing of our royal kingdoms, the burning down of our libraries, and the acceptance of non-blacks in our villages. Nothing actually that we practice today as culture, as tradition, is our actual tradition. It is something the white man decided and is allowing us to practice so that we never actually go within and find our true tradition. The only way man can know what their true tradition is, is to go within. Don't let a book tell you, don't let a man tell you, don't let a woman tell you. Because the thing about it is that each and every person can amend as they want. In the same way a man can decide, ho re in his household there will no longer be any rituals that take place. He will slaughter one animal and it will be the end. And that will be his tradition. So uh then the rest of the lineages from there supposed to learn that. So now, Grensha, what is the real thing if anybody can amend as in when they please? I say to you, there's no such thing as tradition. The only way you can find out what your true tradition is is to go within. And your universe will reveal to you what you should be doing to celebrate nothing else. Everything in these books, everything in these libraries, these well-knowns who knew the Asians. There should just be a guide. When you listen to someone that's supposedly telling you facts, and I say facts in inverted commerce, that is a research piece for you to go research for yourself. But your greatest source has to be within, never external.

SPEAKER_03 10:39

Greetings to everyone. Currently living in Haudeng, in Azania, Southern Africa. Are some of our traditions part of miseducation? It is a great question. I would like to begin by quoting something from a work that is very, very famous, published in 1964 by again another infamous or famous author, sage, African scholar, if I may use those words. Everybody likes to quote him or speak about him, but sometimes you can just tell that a lot of people that are speaking about him have not actually really studied his work or even read thoroughly his Magnum Opus, the great book, um, which is a lot more fable than history. And you can call it oral history. A lot of what it says is true, but a lot of what it says, a lot of what is stated in it, cannot be true. It is storytelling, it is a genius kind of storytelling, but uh there's a lot of parables, there's a lot of um legends. Um it's an epic. Now, one should ask themselves what to take as truth and what to take as just stories to drive home a lesson or allegories, so to speak. So I'm just gonna read from the from the back page of the book what it says, and then I'm gonna speak about the subject of whether some of our traditions are fables. But first, let me just respond by saying yes, some of what we learn from our tradition is miseducation. But what is miseducation? Miseducation is wrong information being taught as correct without question. That is miseducation. When someone is passing on information with the premise that it is true, yet further evidence, all evidence points to the fact that it is untrue, that information is miseducation and it is dangerous because a lot of gullible people may take it as truth, and education can lead to certain actions which are harmful to either the individual or that society. So, what does Indaba My Children say? What is said about it in its back page? I quote, whenever the names look like being forgotten and the memories overwhelmed by the events of time, the preservation of cultural traditions assume a new, more vital importance, believing that the tales he learned from the elders gave direction to his life and motivated him to further his knowledge of his people's history. Through the ancient art of storytelling, takes on that commitment to preserve, promote, and revive the past. First published in 1964 in Dabba My Children is an internationally acclaimed collection of tales and legends that chart the story of African tribal life. It is through these stories that one is able to reconstruct the past of Africa. It is through these stories that intertribal friendship or hatred was kept alive and burning. That the young were told who their ancestors were, who their enemies were, and who their friends were. Excellent in the medium of storytelling, the Vusama Zulu, Awakener of the Zulus, provides a collection that sets the reader on a beautiful and spirited journey through the tales and legends of Africa. Now, as I've already said, it is difficult sometimes when you read this book to differentiate between the legend and the history. The book is huge. I think it's a 200, um 694 pages. Uh that uh does not include the closary. The closary, right? Now, a lot happens in this book. I know the subject matter for this um um conversation is not really the book, but I'm using the book as an example of how certain traditions become customs and customs become habits. And the people who practice these customs, habits, and traditions do not question a lot what it is that they are practicing. They just say some wise person said it, or the elders said it, or we heard. Now we're living in the 21st century according to the Gregorian calendar. We're living in a time where science is required in almost every practice. Scientific erudition, scientific, and even spiritual discernment, just a way of telling whether something is true or false, whether it is useful or useless. Now, miseducation, again, that notion that something can be taught as a reality when instead it is a fantasy. It is a deep problem in African mytho, what I call mytho poetic life or mytho poetic, mythic poetic life. Right. What happens is as we some traditions are passed down or passed on from generation to generation, there comes a time when things change. Things are in constant change, things are in constant flux, nothing stays the same. Yet people, African people specifically, with that we are speaking about here, tend to hold on to traditions that have outlived their self-by-date, so to speak, notions that are no longer useful for the pursuance of well-being and continuation of life in the present generation. So, what do you do? How do you take how do you show people that whatever they're practicing is no longer practical, it does not fit the context of the day, that culture is dynamic, and it is up to the practices to transform so that they can transform themselves, so that they can thrive. It is difficult. Storytelling is very important. Who tells the story is very important, who passes on the tradition and why those things are significant because knowing who is telling the story and where they get their story from and trusting the source is very important in the continuation of tradition. But why do we have tradition and how can we tell whether this tradition is no longer serving us? I think there are practical examples whereby you practice something and you do not get results. You are told a goat is necessary for a particular ritual without asking yourself why exactly a goat. You are a thinking 21st century person, an African anywhere in the world, being asked to buy a goat to do a particular ritual or to go to a particular place and practice a practical particular ritual without questioning and without proper discernment, you may do exactly that and still find yourself in deeper trouble or in deeper confusion because you are not given full information. How do we get full information? Searching and seeking for the truth is very important. But where do you get it from? Who are the authorities? In the practical sense, a lot of the time people go to mediums, the traditional doctors, the traditional healers. Yet a lot of the traditional healers grow up within a context of colonization, within environments which have been colonized and not yet decolonized and Africanized. They may practice, they may practice, is seen too, they may practice the cultural traditions passed on to them by whoever the custodians of culture are the cobelas, the ones who are the master teachers in the initiation rights. Yet the very same custodians and cobelas and the master teachers in the initiation rights may be found wanting in terms of the knowledge of the past, and they only receive whatever they they trust what they receive from their own teachers. Yet it is being revealed the more we see that there is a great rise, there's a great um con what's the what's the right word, not continuum, but there is um a I would say a trend towards people where you see a lot of people becoming other Sanghumas, traditional healers of various sorts. Some are clairvoyant, some are waking up to their gifts of other clairvoyance, pre-science, various healing uh uh uh traditions. So there is a blend, there is a synergy, there is a convergence of various traditions. A person can be a doctor and still be a traditional healer, a lawyer and a traditional healer, a scientist like my brother uh Ank Shabalala, Mkulu Ank of the Amin Ra Institute. The scientist who practices ancient kemetic traditions and teaches about them, teaches the quantum where it uses scientific terms to explain ancient African principles, ancient Nile Valley principles. So it is it is possible to live a scientifically erudite life and with discernment and still practice African traditions without miseducation, but it is also possible to continue traditions that are wrong or that do not fit the needs and the practical necessities of that time of this time because you are saying you are just carrying on the tradition, you have obizo or the calling. So where does miseducation enter? Miseducation again is a way where something wrong is taught and it is thought of as right. Two things may be happening: the teachers may be delusional or living in an illusion of reality, or the receiver, the student, the novice may be practicing whatever they are being taught, which is an illusion, because they trust the master teacher, or the eagerness of the novice or the initiate, the eagerness to find clarity, to find truth, or to hold on to something when everything around them seems not to be working, either they are sick or they are having a series of misfortunes, and then they find something that seems to be an elixir or a panacea for their illness or their disharmony that they're experiencing at the time. Now, when a traditional solution is offered, there is a possibility that that traditional solution is not as practical and is not as useful as it should be. So the seeker, the initiate, carries on seeking. Similar with this book of Baba Credomoto, a discerning reader will find that the legends are just bad legends, they may be blended with some truth, but there are some people, there's a lot of us, even myself, I have quoted Credomoto. But sometimes I quote him with tongue-in-cheek, quote, quote some of the work with in order to probe into people's perception and understanding of what they are reading. But you can tell that some of the tales are far from true, they are the product of a person's imagination. I spoke earlier about the authority. Now, we have been told that this particular author, this writer who wrote in 1964 or published this in 1964, he had been writing since the 40s or 50s. The elder wrote this from a good place to preserve tradition. Yet was it preserving tradition or was it preserving traditional imagination and the traditional methods of preserving oral history, taking oral history and putting it in book form, doing something that a lot of traditionalists were not doing. It was only white or European or Eurocentric anthropologists and priests that would write our history. Therefore, it will still emerge as untrue or miseducation because a lot of those scholars, a lot of those people, Eurocentric scholars and writers, got a lot of things wrong because a lot of things were lost in translation. So it is important for us to be careful what we pass on and to find ways and methods to investigate even the authorities that we trust, whether it's Baba Credo Motua Usama Zulu, or whether it's Mbidi, or whether it's Baba Mazasigunene, who was also a great poet and one of the preservers of ancient traditions, there are many, many throughout the African continent. So the only way to avoid miseducation is to seek both intuitively to gain the kind of intuitive, intuitive, and scientific rational faculties that we possess personally, and the other way is to study, study, study, keep on studying. Education does not end even beyond the grave. As ancestors, we are educated by the new generation, they do work for us even beyond the grave. This is part of the African tradition, it is part of the ancestral tradition. I'm not sure whether it's only African, but Africans practice things that connect both the living and the dead, and the ones who have transitioned. There is a synergy, there is a reflection, there is a back and forth, so to speak, where I can fix things for you as a as your a living ancestor, as a living part of your of a generation of uh of the same asigo generations. If there are certain things that one of my ancestors had not done right, I can appease, I can do certain works, I can do certain rituals that can release them of their ignorance or release them of their pains so that they can release me to not have to not collect their karma, etc. etc. etc. But it is a deep topic, and I will not finish it in just one telling. For now, I would like to give thanks and honor to Ontamane Okubonye on Jovuzilel Kaya Magosura Belusi Omasego Bona Abanginaimanzini no kuni Babasaum Liloemanzin Babuma Nulkun il Savuta. Seto Ozagaul Makos.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Thank you, Kosihadi and Mkulumenzi Kakudu Maseko for gracing us with your views and your intellect on our sum of our traditions, miseducation. We have yet another guest who graced us with his intellect and his beliefs, and he couldn't send us a recording, though he did send me a transcript that I'll be reading on his behalf. Our guest is Kambisokosa, and I hope I pronounced his name properly. If not, I apologize. He also goes by the name Blackroot Science. I like the way he then said he called his transcript the bastardized ways of the Bantu. In the concept of are some of our traditions missed education. He then says the way of life of the Bantu is the oldest and most authentic concept that gave birth to a more civilized way of living too many civilizations. Our ancestors lived with the knowledge of science of all that exists in our physical reality. Nations would learn the wisdom of many things from our ancestors. This included, amongst others, the knowledge of astrology, mathematics, physics, quantum physics, the law of attraction, cause and effect, etc. They coiled it all up in a concept called Ubuntu, which in summary means I am because you are. Our ancestors understood that we reflect and project as a mirror image everything that exists exactly how we perceive reality within ourselves. Our eyes being the portal through which images from the light within ourselves is projected into reality. They understood and overstood that the physical reality is created in our own image. This means that the physical reality is not less spiritual than the non-physical reality. They are both a balance often due. Through this knowledge, they understood the importance of being in harmony with self because the cause and effect of being in harmony with self births the manifestation of a physical reality that reflects the paradise within self. They also knew if you are in misalignment with self, the manifestation of the physical reality thereof will reflect the misalignment within ourselves. Through the harmony between self and all that exists within the physical reality, our ancestors flourished. Their way of life manifested paradise. You see, Ubuntu was not only a concept that governed our spiritual lives, but also a system of governance through which we drew the knowledge of architecture and agriculture. They consciously knew that every move we make, every thought we think, and every word we say is a ritual that is also a manifestation of our reality as we see it. Our ancestors never worshipped or prayed to any deity because they knew they are one with Ntu. Abantu are the only people called by the name of the source known as Ndu, 2 Chronicles 7.14. All they had to do was to insert a treasure horse into our ways of life through slavery. Our ancestors found themselves in the most brutal era that changed and shaped the course of history that seeked to dismantle the identity beyond recognition of the great house of the Bantu. During the physical slavery of our ancestors, religion was introduced as a program and a virus that would not only take away the identity but the entire spirituality of the Bantu, which was the source of strength. The virus of religion, which was brutally forced into our ancestors, was the nail on the cross that saw the great house bantu fall beyond recognition. Religion ensured that even when the chains are moved from our hands and feet, we remain mentally chained. This is how you domesticate an animal. The bantu remained domesticated up until today. A lot, if not all, of our practices, rituals, or rites of passage have been infiltrated by the Trajan horse of religion. The principles and procedures of Ubuntu have been bastardized, some beyond recognition, just like religion that indoctrinated us to believe in a deity outside of ourselves, to be superior and the one and only creator of the universe who works with the angels in their different ranks. Our inner standing of who and what the concept of ancestors meant have been bastardized by Christianity. We have adopted the concept of spirituality in that we speak to our ancestors, we believe that we have to invoke or summon them from a spiritual realm, somewhere either from within the magnetic field within ourselves. We adopted the concepts of spiritual of spirituality and made them part of authentic cultural practices. We looking for answers outside our grid and have forgotten the ancient knowledge that everything happens through us, not to us. Therefore, we all need to navigate and manipulate the energies around us is within our own human anatomy. For us to reach a level of consciousness and the knowledge of all there is, we have to go back to the etymology of the words of our indigenous Bantu dialects. The English language is limited, hence, it limits us. It limits also our understanding of our own concept. This is because we try to accommodate English by interpreting Bantu concept into a Eurocentric manner and lose the meaning in the interpretation. For example, the in the etymology of the etymology of the word spirit comes from the Latin word spiritus, which means to breathe. Now ask yourself, what does the word to breathe mean in your Bantu dialect? Because to breathe is a function performed by the body. In my dialect, it means uku, herfumula, ukupumula, u hema. So the word spirit in its essence cannot be what we use it for. English is a limited language, so we cannot say our ancestors, our ancestors are in a spiritual realm because we do not have the concept of spirituality in our dialects. We cannot also say our ancestors connect us to God. Also, the concept of God and angels is not our concept. These concepts are based on belief and fear, while our concepts are based on the knowledge and love of our ancestors. In conclusion, let us relearn and protect our Bantu dialects because these are organic dialects that do recognize us. Remember, everyone can be a Christian, a Muslim, a Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, or any other religion, but to be mutu is a birthright only for the royals. We, the Bantu, are the only people that bear the name of the source known to us as into Blackroot Science. Thank you so much for your views and intellect on sharing your understanding to our trad some of our traditions, miseducation. And as you said, a lot of them have been infiltrated and were dismantled through Christianity, and we lost our ways along the way. And I thank all of our guests for gracing us with their views and gracing our podcast Amatongo.

SPEAKER_00 37:10

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