WHat makes Heather tick?
WHat makes Heather tick?
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ait. Everybody is sad. Kelly here. A parable Tower in as reports, Historic death is this week. We're bringing you another origin tale. As you may or may not know, the origin tales are actually the stories of our paranormal lists and how they became interested or completely, um, addicted to, uh, study of the paranormal in the pursuit of paranormal. And tonight we're actually going to be talking to one of our best tour guides here. A parable tower on dhe hell ago. Oh, we're gonna talk. Mascot of her origin story said tonight is the origin story of the paranormalist. Heather,that was quite the Internet. Okay, so I guess we can start with what Initially got me interested. Which, you know, if you were an 80 late eighties early nineties kid, this was probably the same for thousands of us out there. Mine initially started because, as we said previously, there were not a lot of go shows out. Um, not until maybe mid nineties unsolved mysteries, things like eso books were easily available. So scary stories of telling dark goose bumps. I mean, these were this is where a lot of nineties kids started. Are you afraid of the dark. Um, so that's you know, where my initial interest came in. But it wasn't until I hit legal age, and I don't know about now. But back when I was 18 years old, if you were to go to, um, as we've discussed before, I'm one of the only people here not raised in New Jersey. So a lot of my stories originate from Ohio, where I was born and raised, and if I were to go to a place like Mansfield Reformatory or something like that and do an overnight stay to try and investigate, um, you had to be at least well for Mansfield. You ought to be 21. But a lot of other places, you had to at least be 18 so I couldn't go on my first ghost hunt until I was 18. In the very first place that I got to go, um, was where I had the most prominent experience. I think that I've ever had to date. Um, so I was 18 and we it was me, my mom, uh, my aunt and my aunts best friend, and we were going to Prospect place, which is in trend way Ohio. I believe this was 2004. So we were there before Ghost adventures Ever got their hands on it, Things like that. Before we got there, we went thio this place called Buxton in and had dinner, which is also reportedly on Ted. Um had no experience, is there? But we go to Prospect place and we went I think it was a Saturday night. Anyway, they the people who put this on, we're not professionals in any sense of the word. I think they were like friends of the people that actually owned the house or something like that. And they they were promoting a ladies night. That's what way that's what they chose way were the only way to use
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ait. Everybody is sad. Kelly here. A parable Tower in as reports, Historic death is this week. We're bringing you another origin tale. As you may or may not know, the origin tales are actually the stories of our paranormal lists and how they became interested or completely, um, addicted to, uh, study of the paranormal in the pursuit of paranormal. And tonight we're actually going to be talking to one of our best tour guides here. A parable tower on dhe hell ago. Oh, we're gonna talk. Mascot of her origin story said tonight is the origin story of the paranormalist. Heather,that was quite the Internet. Okay, so I guess we can start with what Initially got me interested. Which, you know, if you were an 80 late eighties early nineties kid, this was probably the same for thousands of us out there. Mine initially started because, as we said previously, there were not a lot of go shows out. Um, not until maybe mid nineties unsolved mysteries, things like eso books were easily available. So scary stories of telling dark goose bumps. I mean, these were this is where a lot of nineties kids started. Are you afraid of the dark. Um, so that's you know, where my initial interest came in. But it wasn't until I hit legal age, and I don't know about now. But back when I was 18 years old, if you were to go to, um, as we've discussed before, I'm one of the only people here not raised in New Jersey. So a lot of my stories originate from Ohio, where I was born and raised, and if I were to go to a place like Mansfield Reformatory or something like that and do an overnight stay to try and investigate, um, you had to be at least well for Mansfield. You ought to be 21. But a lot of other places, you had to at least be 18 so I couldn't go on my first ghost hunt until I was 18. In the very first place that I got to go, um, was where I had the most prominent experience. I think that I've ever had to date. Um, so I was 18 and we it was me, my mom, uh, my aunt and my aunts best friend, and we were going to Prospect place, which is in trend way Ohio. I believe this was 2004. So we were there before Ghost adventures Ever got their hands on it, Things like that. Before we got there, we went thio this place called Buxton in and had dinner, which is also reportedly on Ted. Um had no experience, is there? But we go to Prospect place and we went I think it was a Saturday night. Anyway, they the people who put this on, we're not professionals in any sense of the word. I think they were like friends of the people that actually owned the house or something like that. And they they were promoting a ladies night. That's what way that's what they chose way were the only way to use
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ait. Everybody is sad. Kelly here. A parable Tower in as reports, Historic death is this week. We're bringing you another origin tale. As you may or may not know, the origin tales are actually the stories of our paranormal lists and how they became interested or completely, um, addicted to, uh, study of the paranormal in the pursuit of paranormal. And tonight we're actually going to be talking to one of our best tour guides here. A parable tower on dhe hell ago. Oh, we're gonna talk. Mascot of her origin story said tonight is the origin story of the paranormalist. Heather,that was quite the Internet. Okay, so I guess we can start with what Initially got me interested. Which, you know, if you were an 80 late eighties early nineties kid, this was probably the same for thousands of us out there. Mine initially started because, as we said previously, there were not a lot of go shows out. Um, not until maybe mid nineties unsolved mysteries, things like eso books were easily available. So scary stories of telling dark goose bumps. I mean, these were this is where a lot of nineties kids started. Are you afraid of the dark. Um, so that's you know, where my initial interest came in. But it wasn't until I hit legal age, and I don't know about now. But back when I was 18 years old, if you were to go to, um, as we've discussed before, I'm one of the only people here not raised in New Jersey. So a lot of my stories originate from Ohio, where I was born and raised, and if I were to go to a place like Mansfield Reformatory or something like that and do an overnight stay to try and investigate, um, you had to be at least well for Mansfield. You ought to be 21. But a lot of other places, you had to at least be 18 so I couldn't go on my first ghost hunt until I was 18. In the very first place that I got to go, um, was where I had the most prominent experience. I think that I've ever had to date. Um, so I was 18 and we it was me, my mom, uh, my aunt and my aunts best friend, and we were going to Prospect place, which is in trend way Ohio. I believe this was 2004. So we were there before Ghost adventures Ever got their hands on it, Things like that. Before we got there, we went thio this place called Buxton in and had dinner, which is also reportedly on Ted. Um had no experience, is there? But we go to Prospect place and we went I think it was a Saturday night. Anyway, they the people who put this on, we're not professionals in any sense of the word. I think they were like friends of the people that actually owned the house or something like that. And they they were promoting a ladies night. That's what way that's what they chose way were the only way to use
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ait. Everybody is sad. Kelly here. A parable Tower in as reports, Historic death is this week. We're bringing you another origin tale. As you may or may not know, the origin tales are actually the stories of our paranormal lists and how they became interested or completely, um, addicted to, uh, study of the paranormal in the pursuit of paranormal. And tonight we're actually going to be talking to one of our best tour guides here. A parable tower on dhe hell ago. Oh, we're gonna talk. Mascot of her origin story said tonight is the origin story of the paranormalist. Heather,that was quite the Internet. Okay, so I guess we can start with what Initially got me interested. Which, you know, if you were an 80 late eighties early nineties kid, this was probably the same for thousands of us out there. Mine initially started because, as we said previously, there were not a lot of go shows out. Um, not until maybe mid nineties unsolved mysteries, things like eso books were easily available. So scary stories of telling dark goose bumps. I mean, these were this is where a lot of nineties kids started. Are you afraid of the dark. Um, so that's you know, where my initial interest came in. But it wasn't until I hit legal age, and I don't know about now. But back when I was 18 years old, if you were to go to, um, as we've discussed before, I'm one of the only people here not raised in New Jersey. So a lot of my stories originate from Ohio, where I was born and raised, and if I were to go to a place like Mansfield Reformatory or something like that and do an overnight stay to try and investigate, um, you had to be at least well for Mansfield. You ought to be 21. But a lot of other places, you had to at least be 18 so I couldn't go on my first ghost hunt until I was 18. In the very first place that I got to go, um, was where I had the most prominent experience. I think that I've ever had to date. Um, so I was 18 and we it was me, my mom, uh, my aunt and my aunts best friend, and we were going to Prospect place, which is in trend way Ohio. I believe this was 2004. So we were there before Ghost adventures Ever got their hands on it, Things like that. Before we got there, we went thio this place called Buxton in and had dinner, which is also reportedly on Ted. Um had no experience, is there? But we go to Prospect place and we went I think it was a Saturday night. Anyway, they the people who put this on, we're not professionals in any sense of the word. I think they were like friends of the people that actually owned the house or something like that. And they they were promoting a ladies night. That's what way that's what they chose way were the only way to use
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to show up just the four of us. It felt
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No, it was just us for and my mother is very I don't know what kind of business they thought they were gonna draw with that, but anyway, we showed I don't know what that says about us, but yeah, so I guess that's why they lowered the age to 18 drama
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way. We'll never get any fellows that we don't bring in some of the girls. So, girls.
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So we get there, It's this couple that is putting it on and I will never forget. It's Randy and his girlfriend was also Heather. So, um, yeah, so we get there in this house is decrepit. It's falling. It's very much your stereotypical haunted house, right? Like what you see in the Yeah, What you see in the movies is what you get for what you did at that time with that place. Um, so we go in and there are actually people living in this house. You're Yes. So we go in and I want to say And don't quote me on this, but I want to say this house was in this family for generations. I think it might have fallen in and out of hands a couple of times because at one time it did stand vacant. Um, at one time, it didn't even have a front door. Let
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me ask you where you are. But what kind of what kind of look what was? This
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is a very rural the house at that time. I can't speak to it today because I haven't been back. But at that time literally stood in the middle of a cornfield. Um, so just it iss you know, corn fields in Ohio guessed right.
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You know what they do in court? Feels Yeah. Walked behind the courtroom.
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Um, so it had been vandalised from not having the front door. Of course, it was open to the elements and animals at that point as well. So the house had been through some rough times, and the original family had gotten it back. So it was the grandfather and the grandson that we're living in this house, and the grandson was the only one restoring it. So it was him by himself because his grandfather is basically but written. So the Onley room that they have finished was the room that we were supposed to be staying in. Um, so night goes on and they're not taking it seriously, like it's really just I don't want to say a gimmick, but it's almost like, you know, they tell you this person has experienced this here up in the attic. They're supposed to have been a child spirit that plays a little ball and, you know, some of your very stereotypical stories out in the barn. Somebody was supposed to have hung themselves from the rafters. Um, and he kept trying to get me to go places by myself. Like he thought that because I was a young girl. But I wouldn't draw them out or Yeah, or I would if I was. If anyone was gonna experience something in that group, For whatever reason, he thought it was gonna be me. So basically. So we finally make our way down into the basement, which is honestly, I have no other way to describe it. But it looks like the original basement to this house, like dirt floors. Nothing but brick walls that, like there's nothing down here. It's been gutted. They're using it. A storage. They still have the original. Well, that they used for their refrigeration unit downstairs. Um, So again, he tries with the Would you stay down here by yourself? Absolutely not. Um, I don't want to say that I'm afraid of the dark, but
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I So I was
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like, I'll make you a deal. I'll stay down here. But everybody else is staying down here with me as well. You know, You guys can go where you're gonna go. That's the only way this is gonna happen, right? So he finally agrees to it, and he's like, Fine, you know, you guys can all stay down here together. Um, and it's kind of creepy to think back on it now because we're sited were sited, seeded in the exact same position that I was at that time. Um, we're all the way at the end of this basement. It's just nothing but a long hallway with rooms branched off on the sides. And we're horse shoed in the very end of the hallway. Um, so there's nobody on my left side. Everybody is branched out around my right, and he's telling us, he's like, You know, if anything happens, just yell, You know, 10 seconds, I'll be down the stairs. So he goes upstairs. Now, in meantime, this house was supposedly a stop on the underground railroad. Um, so the basement would be where the store, these people, um, to hide them. And so he goes to the top of the stairs. He shuts the lights off, and it's almost like before he even gets there. My, I'm terrified. It's almost like I'm having a premonition. I know something's gonna have to shut Yes. So I am. Please keep in mind. I'm 18 years old. Not to say that this still wouldn't happen at 33 but so my mother is sitting directly on my right. I have both of my arms wrapped around her left arm. Um, and my I can hear the blood pumping in my years, I'm so scared he gets to the top of the stairs, he flips that light off, and as soon as he flips it off, I feel the scent. My arm would it The only thing I can relate,
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But what about what it's
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like finger walking right up someone's arm, And I feel it up my left arm and your initial thought in your brain is Oh, it's a bug, but and I go to flap it knowing I know full well what I felt, but my brain doesn't want to accept it, right? No, no, no. There's no way I couldn't have felt it had to have been a bug, right? I don't know what kind of bug feels like that, but I was trying to ration my fat, um, but that it terrified me. And of course, I start screaming. Um, that you need to come back down and, like, I'm just like I'm shaking by this point in it. I heard that.
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I'm sorry. I realize it started you and I'm sorry.
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I didn't know
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what I see. There's a piece of plastic right there. It's been sitting there for three days, and it just won't like it. Just choked it, and then I don't know if you saw me see it. I was like, What the hell is that? You're looking at this? Uh huh. And I just saw the motion of it go over, and I don't know what would have caused that, but I'm really sorry, you know, especially with the culmination of it.
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Well, that was basically
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I saw you see me. I jumped. Yeah,
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so, I mean, that was pretty much it. I mean, it couldn't have been any. I would have heard the move. I would
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have felt them move. I was all set up.
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I might write, Um so I don't know if it was something like they're playing with me because they know I'm scared, right? That's the only thing I What? Do you remember being interested? Um honestly, probably middle aged middle aged middle school age. Um, because my mom has a lot of a lot of good stories.
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So your mom, your mom has interested? So it's a second generation. Yeah, My mom was just like my father, on the other hand, was a devout believer, and not he would. He wouldn't speak of it because he believed so. He was not one of those people who would like, Tell him we'll go story, because I think it I think it scared him. You know, I think it really did freaking out. I know. And something will have my sister on here to tell the story because I don't know what that well, but one day he did. He was born in rural Ireland and in a little town hold Cara que and he grew up in a temple desert. And it's extremely world are in the county Ross found. And, um, my dad was a little bit about five foot £620 different when everyone called Big Mike anon. Ironically, you know, But when he grew up during the Depression, in which was his bed is that depression was here in this fucking depression are they were already pour. It was just really bad one night. You know, there are people. People did a lot of visiting, so nobody had telephones. Televisions, You know, you might have a radio in the village, so most of the entertainment would be going to the pub for going visiting, and everyone would do that and you might go mad and you're probably going master. Well, at least you don't. People of a certain age would. And my father used to talk about a man that he would see walking and everyone knew everybody, you know, and he would be riding his motorcycle in and see. You know, of course there's Patty Throat Nice. He had anyway, to Patty and you go on your way. He'd see him every day in the morning, and it was going off to work and see him every every evening as he was coming home. And my father would always have your patio while yeah, I am. But for a couple of 19 waiter that that wasn't leaving back. And so he went into his mother's house and said, You know, sure, I keep seeing Patti, and I believe it is that we're back on Thursday and his mother said she didn't have a sweet. He's been very from past five days and my father and see them every night, this way, home for you. And that's a traditional kind of story, too. But when you talk to somebody who really saw it, now you're writing someplace. You see the same thing every night. Maybe it was true the first night. Maybe there's cattle in the field, but every night for five nights, you know. So those are the types of experiences that I've ever been in Ireland. There isn't more. I want to place the plant and it feels haunted. It looks wanted if it isn't what it should be. I feel every ghost is an Irish coast because it's like that's what keeps them, you know? Is it true that in Ireland they call them spirits and ghosts? I heard that no more than here, You know there's not one way, and I think I heard fairies. That's right now you would know right? Wolf fairy lore in Ireland is a very specific thing. It's also a very specific thing in France, a very specific against God versus So the fairy war in Ireland is more akin to follow, then it is to a belief in ghosts or not. But they were called sprites and fairies effect, and they call them the Good People. And one day I'm gonna do a podcast on the good people they ate. Nothing scarier. Good people call. You know what they call the fairies. The good people was because they were terrified, so they didn't want to insult them. I think I told you guys that my uncle was out. That's how he said. He said he doesn't want to know. This is the other night, he said. He's renovating products that my father was born in, and, um, you know, it's it's a It's a tough job because in the 19 forties they moved. All of the people of this little town called our cattle. They move them out of Derek Travel into more centralized location. They did it for a few reasons. One was, I think they think they intended to flood the area. That's not what is happening, but I also think that it was very difficult for them to get electricity and they were just converting like when I was going in the seventies, in the eighties, there were still plenty of houses that didn't have electricity any make 40 or 50% because the rural people did not trust it. And so, in order to satisfy the needs for some people have electricity, they actually bought the properties and move them out to get people out of the world parts of it. So there's only they're 11 families that were living in Derek. I'll find Town sold. One didn't step but my brother. Then we're gonna destroy the cottages of my brother actually bought to Preserve. So I was renovating. He's been living there for past couple years, and he has to believe place actually wanted us. While we see multiple, you see multiple things, he said. He's not drinkers never from his life. But I was talking to him the other night. He was like, There's no cool see, Oh, like there's no close their spirit and their good like that Only 61 years old, all right said. And then he goes, I want to see now you take, We laugh at that, but there's still people are very strongly nine lucky charms, but in elemental spirits that have powers and I mean, you wouldn't. You know, it's all because the Irish take everything. Look, it's funny. They're, like, just like laughing. But we're remembering you're one of us. So you, Heather, for your origin story, Or are these three year first kind of profound experience that made you think that there was something more than just stories, too? I
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didn't have a little bit more not know. He's not haunting wise, but yeah, we didn't stay. Um, I'm
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almost terrifying. My mom was
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that these people were gonna kill us in the night because out in the middle of nowhere, and it was literally four women,
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and they were trying to the basement, and
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we left in the middle of the night to drive three hours, almost three
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hours back home. So So you were less afraid of the ghost that you were the rules? Yeah. And thus began. You're paranormalist career way
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Did? Yeah. No, we I don't remember. E mean, it wasn't anything like way get some serial killer vibes from you.
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It wasn't a four star. Yeah, so yeah. Don't let the door hit you with the good Lord. Split up. Well, thank you very much, Heather. I hope you guys enjoy it. I apologize for my interruption of her at exactly left, but the retainer over there started moving entire fight and there's some things and the door keeps. I don't see any clicking over here. I see a figure over there, a whole lot of figure. But you know, like motion before you go in and we're to thank you guys for listening and remember that we drop every Tuesday at nine o'clock. So if you if you follow us, you could follow us on Facebook. We are paranormal tales in the tower. You can follow us on instead of caramel. Tells me tower you can you can subscribe, plus print anywhere. Spotify iTunes. You go right to our website www dot paranormal books NJ dot com. If you do subscribe, you will automatically get our podcast and do several different kinds. We have our spirit board sessions, which is essentially us talking about our experiences, terrible investigators and just being here in this crazy wanted building. We also have tales of my talent, which are actually researched stories that I tell them about 2025 minutes that there are a little bit different from the run of the mill. Paranormal stories were also have people who join us from time to time. Andi have just, you know, honestly, crazy shit that we do here. Oh, read it our way are coming to you from caramel books and curiosities. And the paranormal museum, located a paranormal tower. 6 21 Cookman Avenue has reports a short downtown district. The reason why I tell you that is because you guys come here and experience this. So I hope we hear from you. Send us an email info at paranormal books, NJ dot com. And if there's something you wanna talk about, let us know until next time piece.