School Spirits #1

Why are so many High Schools Haunted?  is it because HS is so damn hard? So universal an experience?  Or is it just because they are buildings just about 100% of people need to go through?

We tried to reach out to find schools off the beaten path, but both Sean Favre and I ended up choosing one school from far afield and one school from good old New Jersey.

We ended up doing this via Skype and Kathy's recording dropped out, so as usual the tech side of this is a little iffy.  Maybe Paranormal Tower is letting itself be heard? 

Make sure you et us know your thoughts and any places you want us to check out! 

Info@paranormalbooksnj.com

https://weirdnj.com/stories/lambertville-highschool-2/
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/idaho/haunted-places-school-id/
https://paranormal.lovetoknow.com/Haunted_Schools
http://www.members.tripod.com/jayboy74/story23.html
https://www.app.com/story/news/local/ocean-county/2014/10/02/ghost-hunters-barnegat-school/16607479/
idahohauntings.com

Check out Sean Favre's artwork at :  https://www.facebook.com/campeerie/

Transcript

spk_1:   0:03
welcome paranormal, its fringe dwellers and my fellow travelers on the road to and from the unknown. This is paranormal tales from the tower recorded a paranormal tower in Asbury Park, New Jersey is historic downtown district. Join us for stories of the strange, the unusual and, of course, the paranormal. My name is Kathy Kelly. Welcome the paranormal tower. Sit down. Relax. I have something to tell you. For those of you who have been supporting us on, Patron, we really appreciate it. Thank you so much. And for those of you who have been sharing us, we really appreciate that as well, because that's the best way forward to get out there is for you guys to let people know that you've been listening in that you enjoy your podcast. Um, today we decided to do, um we decided to look at some down home haunts. And, you know, there are a lot of famously haunted places out in the United States, and there's been a lot of a lot of stories that pretty much everybody who's interested in the paranormal knows about. And certainly if you go online, you confined, you know, thousands and thousands of them but we decided to look at some haunts that were, but with personal and very, very local. And I think that these haunts kind of reveals something about the nature of of ghost stories and legends and also the nature of of our connection to those types of stories. We decided to do something called school Spirits, and these are stories that are related to ghosts at high schools. Now, Shawn and I went out and we did our own little research on things I chose to. He chose to, and thanks against everybody who sent in suggestions this is gonna be an ongoing Siri's. So if you have, ah, local haunt that you want us to talk about, please feel free to send it to us at info at paranormal books, NJ dot com or on any of our social media accounts. And I will make sure that I put those up and all of our stories are gonna be in the episode notes as well. So, uh, Shawn, how did you find the research into this subject?

spk_0:   2:22
There was a There was a pretty neat article that it's, you know, I looked up a couple that were like the top haunted schools of all time. And, uh, and some people were communicating with us, and they were sending in like, Hey, you should check this one out. So out of kind of, ah, conglomerate of those those things together, it was like, Okay, that one stands out to me, that one stands out to me. So

spk_1:   2:52
you know, what struck me was how how not repetitive, but how common a lot of the stories were, you know, and it kind of led me to believe that God, we really do have common experiences, you know, like everybody kind of has a hard time in high school. You know, every high school kind of has the same cliques, and I thought was funny because both Sean and I chose, um, both Sean and I chose one school that was in New Jersey and one school that waas kind of the Midwest. You don't mean or or a little bit further out of our our kind of field of experience. And, um, I thought that was pretty cool. You know, that we went local and that we went old it national. So I'm actually gonna I'm gonna turn the mike over to Shawn and Shawn. You can share your first story. Let us know where it is and anything you want and let us know about it. We were excited to hear

spk_0:   3:59
s Oh, um, pretty interesting. The Thea, the further out one that I chose was out in Idaho, and it's Ah, Pocatello High School, which is also nicknamed Pokey. So Pochi High School is what, uh, you know was the common tongue for the locals. But it's, ah, city that was actually found along the old Oregon Trail and wow. And it was known as the Gate City. And, you know, there's, uh it dates back to, like 1800. So some history I found just kind of give you a quick overview is like, uh 18 10. There's trappers that came and started the development ball rolling and, uh, 18 34. The Fort Hall was built, and then we even go thio gold rush of the 18 sixties. And this is where people start to come through a little bit more building momentum and everything. And then, of course, the railroad gotta love the good old railroad coming through. And that's where Pocatello on. They have 18 76. It connected more places. So you have. It's connecting you to Portland. Omaha, Nebraska. Salt Lake City. So it's it's giving you more More traffic. Yeah, big ones. Yeah. So, um, so some things that we find out is that the high school, the original high school, And I may be this is also kind of a common thing for, you know, the start of Ah, spooky, scary, haunted place. But the original structure for Pokey high school burned to the ground at 1914 on Dhe. Yeah, like Q eerie music. Cue all these things, but, um, and one of the reasons why disaster happened to there I found one thing that said the city had, um, water pressure problems, so fire couldn't be put out. You know, all these all these factors, But what's pretty cool is that some of the oldest buildings of the current high school were built in 1916. So, within, like, two years of the original structure burning down. Now, you have, um, pieces that were rebuilt that are still there

spk_1:   6:41
and still really old. You know what that are?

spk_0:   6:45
Um, then they put in a major addition and then from there. The the gymnasium was built in 1939 which is ah, commonplace for some, uh, some activity. So So, yeah. Um, there's a number of stories. Um, I looked at a few different sites. I even looked at one that was pretty cool was Idaho hauntings. And so I thought that was cool. It's like they're owning it, you know? They're being like, hey, stories air around that we're gonna let's talk about him. So I'm gonna You want me to share some of the

spk_1:   7:27
Yeah, Really? Let's hear it. Let's hear what people claim to experience.

spk_0:   7:32
So one of the first stories is that there was this, um, this girl that committed suicide in the high school, so she actually hung herself from a locker on the top floor of the school. Now I saw I saw some some stories that said like, Oh, there was a suicide pact and there was, uh, one girl, uh, didn't go through with it than the other did. And you have all this then I timeframe kind of spanned a 20 year period, but essentially in the 19 forties between between 19 forties 19 fifties, this suicide happens and one of the one of the details of it is that the girl that committed suicide, she wore a particular perfume, and after a death, people could smell that perfume. So, um, a lot of people, a lot of students were disturbed that, you know, the event even happened. But it actually forced the administration to remove the locker and to put into something, put something new in place. But there's a janitor's yao maintenance. Oh, there's that Still get a strong hints of the perfume upstairs. So So, yeah, you're having that those senses. Um,

spk_1:   9:03
And what do they say? Smell is the sense most closely related thio memory, right? Like it's one of the most emotional senses knowing that, you know, are probably, you know, I think you become really aware when you smell something, you know, that's out of the ordinary. And so, um, that's kind of cool that there's a commonality to that.

spk_0:   9:27
Yeah. And this one, uh, this 11 thing I really enjoy this one because I guess a little bit of the mystery of it, but, um, back in the day, Who in science classes? Science. Yep. Teaching everybody about everything. Science

spk_1:   9:51
at all. Yeah,

spk_0:   9:54
they So I in my experience, I am always used to see in the plastic skeleton, you know, standing up on the broken up frame and parts missing. And all these years, Um, but there is reports that at pokey high school they actually used a human skeleton. Oh, uh, at first. And when when old, uh, when the old bone brigade was was changed out too. Some of the plastic ones, uh, science teachers actually kept finding the real bones in odd places. Who so they would kind of be cleaning out something? It'd be in a cabinet or be, like, just just random find my old. Yeah, we always heard chains and somebody named Marley

spk_1:   10:51
E. I was old skeletons, actually, too. I do not find random bones around. If they're not well articulated or they're not well preserved, they do kind of tend to get a little dusty, you know, get a little bit, uh, porous. Um, but that's funny. I mean, and it's funny that just the association of the skeletons would then lead to the idea that, you know, there's a haunting, you know, like like we have. We have this kind of um, we have this kind of this kind of constant association with human remains and a haunting, you know, naming in like, um, and yet you know their bones everywhere. Yeah. I mean, I literally in the paranormal museum. I have I don't know if you remember the last time you were out, but I have a box that says, Do not throw out human remains, you know? I mean, and you open it up and there's a full skeleton in there that somebody donated because it was about to be thrown out from one of the local zoos. And it's it's a formerly articulated skeleton that just wasn't used anymore. And, you know, I think there would be people who would think that there's some kind of haunting associated with it. Although we haven't experienced anything. Um, but it is funny, like, and then and then the story's kind of take, you know, take on a life of their own. Yeah. Are there still Is this place still in existence?

spk_0:   12:25
Yeah. Yeah, this one's still going. Um, I did find a really cool eyewitness account. Oh, yeah. From it was from this family that they were. They called it the field trip to the high school, right To me, it sounded like they were just trying to find every classroom for their daughters. You know, freshman year. Well, let's go in

spk_1:   12:50
your high school.

spk_0:   12:52
Yeah. So, um, I really this part really struck me, and I thought, um, this'll really stood out. But when they were when they had gone in, there were maintenance workers, and they were painting some of the some of the walls in the hallways on all that. So they were going through and through the high school, and it was a group of them, a couple like a couple people. And when they came back to the area that the maintenance workers, um, you know, we're working, they they had actually taken a break. So the radio was still playing. Well, who's well, radio's playing and they're nowhere nowhere to be seen. And the radio starts switching stations rapidly. So there is getting, you know, this is they're starting to be like, Okay, that's weird.

spk_1:   13:44
That's like a ghost box. Just so I'm just saying that. So I was their bark works

spk_0:   13:50
on DDE as that's happening. Um, and all of them the same time they start feeling like someone. You know, the pressure is like squeezing their temples re along. So, um, they also reported that they were also feeling that sensation around their necks, and they also felt like a chill, almost like they equated to, like, a cold hand doing it. You know, I was having some kind of pressure like that, but they all had, you know, kind of confirm with each other. Like, do you feel that, right? They all agree. And they also, um, when they got closer to the top floor, they started kind of feel pressure with their breathing, Like it was a little little hard. They also had their heads were aching. Yeah, so?

spk_1:   14:46
So I'm kind of environmental thing there, too.

spk_0:   14:50
Yeah, yeah, but it was, uh I really enjoyed that one, because I was like, Okay, this is it's not like, Oh, well, I saw a

spk_1:   15:00
Yeah, or my cousins. You think you could be, You know, And what is that? That this one's in Idaho? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Anything that takes me on the Idaho is gonna be cool. Like I feel like Idaho is is one of those places that it's under appreciated. Yeah, I think so. I'm going to Idaho. I am definitely going on at home. And when was so this? So it's what? It's a quote.

spk_0:   15:31
Pocatello or Pokey High School.

spk_1:   15:35
If I remember correctly to there's video, right? So there's there's some video off people who have who have had experiences. For those of you guys who are listening, I will definitely post with links to some of the interviews. Um, yeah, it's pretty cool, right? I mean, first hand accounts and stuff like that. And if anyone out there goes to Pocatello, we want to hear from you. Okay, So hit us up on social media. Let us now, we'd like to know if you have had any experiences and who you think is haunting the place. Because even though there's a story, it doesn't necessarily mean the stories, right? You know what I mean? It doesn't necessarily mean that just because, um, they talk about Ah, you know, a girl committing suicide or something along those lines. If there's no historical data, it doesn't necessarily mean that that's right. And maybe you have a different view on it, you know? So we'd like to hear it.

spk_0:   16:30
Yeah. One thing I did find I didn't find enough information. It was just kind of this. It's a little bit passive, but they were saying that there's there were six deaths that happened on the school property, but that's something I didn't dive into enough right, which is something that was kind of mentioned. So, yeah, on what you just said, I Maybe that could be part of something or dig a little bit deeper. Maybe somebody knows a little bit more about it, right? Yeah. Who is it? That's that's what

spk_1:   17:02
I think. That's always the hard thing. And and like I have Ah, the 1st 1 that I'm gonna d'oh. So I guess we'll save our jersey stories for last. Sure, the 1st 1 that I'm gonna do is actually out of Tennessee. And it's, uh, Tennessee High School in Bristol, Tennessee. And apparently it has a reputation for being haunted for, you know, the past 50 or 60 years. Um, it doesn't only have one ghost, and it hasn't. It has a really strange ghost story associated with it, but I think this is a perfect kind of example of where there's phenomena and people are having experiences. And then there are some stories, maybe their historical. Maybe they're kind of colloquial. Maybe they're legends, and we're gonna pull those two things together, and we're gonna make a whole ghost story out of it. And then, you know, depending on who you talk to, the origination of the ghost story is different, you know? And it doesn't mean that the ghost isn't there. It just means that maybe the story of who it is or how it got there is is not, you know, 100% of factual, which I would argue is the case at any time. Um, but there's three different three different ghosts that are seeing here. So this this high school was built in 1939. Um, it was originally called the Fifth Street School. And, um, it seems to, um, it seems to kind of the spirits seem to be experienced, but pretty much anyone who comes to the building, so it's not just students, it's not just teachers, it's not just janitors, it's Anybody who comes in is having their having experiences. There was addition added to the school in the 19 seventies on and then another wing was added in the 19 eighties. But most of the ghostly activity seems to be in the original building. Now. The people from the town and the people from the high school refer to the the Recognizable Ghost as Agnes Um, and there are multiple stories that are there. There are multiple stories about how she became a ghost, but they all seem to. They all seem to agree on the fact that she was killed either at the school or on the way to the school to participate in something called Class Night and Class Night is, ah, formal type of event in this in this high school where, UM, junior students, in other words, juniors become seniors and seniors are celebrated prior to graduation, right? So it's like it's almost ceremonial, you know, it's like a ritual, Um, and apparently according to different stories, one story has that she was found dead in the school's swimming pool and that she kind of walks the halls ever since then wandering around. People see her as a girl in a white dress, and she she's like a little wispy and and they hear her footsteps at night. janitors have reported hearing. Her janitors have reported seeing her lately that night, Um, and they even hear footsteps. And this, I think, is pretty cool. They carpeted the hallways and the stairs, Thio cut down in the noise, but they still hear her footsteps. Those types of details I find really cool like because of your I mean, think about that. You know, you're you're vacuuming a whole, you know, and you can't even hear your yourself. Walk on it. But you hear the echo of someone walking on a tile floor that's not even there anymore. So you want the ghost, you know, you touching. Is it the ghost touching the ground? Or is the sound the ghost? So So that's one story. And the other story is that she was actually killed by a train. She was hit by a train on the way to this class light. And the reason why this is important is because it ties in to another ghost where another phenomena that occurs in the school and this may very well be the case of taking something that trying to find a story to fit the phenomena that's happening so people plain And this is one of the weirdest things I've ever heard. People claim that they see a huge phantom train locomotive, a train that blast out of the gym and rides along the hallway. And she is so loud and so riel that it shakes the building. Mmm. I think I think what I just said, right? Yeah, it would that be? It's massive. They said you can hear it, and from time to time you can see it. The problem is, nobody has any idea why this would be the case. Nobody has any idea why there would be a train. So now they're taking the story of of Agnes and they're tying it to the train. And they're saying, Well, maybe she got killed by the train. There's no record of that. But maybe she did. Maybe she drowned. You know, all of these different stories are to justify Agnes being there. But then how in the hell do you justify a train? And so what people said is that maybe the school was built a long, you know, old railroad line. But honestly, someone would know that, you know, I mean, like people, it's not like people just threw a railroad in their backyard and was like, you know, don't tell anybody you don't mean like like if if if a train went through that area, there would be records of that. So what's causing this ghost train in this school in Tennessee? I don't know if you guys, if anyone happens to be from Bristol, Tennessee, and has an answer for that. Please hit us up. We want to know about it and then finally, um, and this seems to be a more traditional story and and, honestly, the most legit sounding one. Um, there's a young man that is seen, um, walking both of the field house, the athletic field house and in the school, Um, and he is. Ah, he's the ghost of a young of a young guy who was walking home from practice or from a game one night and was hit and killed by a car, and his spirit returned to the field house, which was the last place that he had been. And so people are encountering him at games and it at events that are taking place in the field house. It sounds largely residual, um, but as a paranormal investigator. This is the type of stuff that you do experience all the time, you know? And then I would imagine that they're young people going out to the field house specifically to experience that, um, so all of these stories seem well, Agnes seems fairly, you know, common that the athlete for the ghost train, though, man, that is out there. And that makes you if there isn't something environmentally happening, you know what's causing this noise? What's causing the place to shake? You don't mean what What's making people have these experiences? Like, how does that train have a ghost? Yeah. Yeah, I will tell you if there's one thing that's gonna get me to go to Bristol, Tennessee. It's a ghost bringing in a high school.

spk_0:   24:51
Yeah, that'll do

spk_1:   24:53
it. I definitely wanna. I definitely want to see that one again. If you're out there and you're listening and you have that you know anything about that? Please? We want to hear about it. You want it? You want to take us home then, Shawn, you want to bring us back to Ah, good old New Jersey.

spk_0:   25:08
Yeah. We're gonna touch on school down and barn again. Uh, it's It's been abandoned. It's been out of commission since 2004 but it was originally a It's the Elizabeth V. Edward School. Oh, our Lizzie Lizzie Edwards school on Barney. Get it. Open its doors in 1930 and busy. Edward was actually the school's first teacher on. She worked there until her death in 1965. So, you know, sentimental in that way. But it's, um it was kind of, I think of it on a grand scale of like, a schoolhouse. Like it wasn't just the high school. It also was the elementary school.

spk_1:   25:52
Right? Right. Right. Um, but I think we're researching these things. What we are finding is that, you know, every town seems to have something. It might not necessarily be The high school, you know, remain, but like like somebody actually sent me. Ah, a message last night that just said, you know, Middletown, there's nothing in the high school and not having to be a janitor after hours. He's like, there's nothing but holy hell. The grammar school is haunted, you know, like we might need to expand on this

spk_0:   26:25
school. Yeah. Yeah, there's, um there's even this got, uh, there's a few people that have investigated investigated it. Sorry, I'm kind of mumbling that, but, um, U S a today has done a report on it. Ghost hunters is actually done. A which I took me a second to get there. Uh, Woody episode name, but it's called a textbook case. Yeah, it took me. I felt so dumb. Within five seconds, I was like, Well, these people, they're just saying, like, this is just were in and out. Who cares? And I was like, Oh, there's the wind. Sorry, but but I was good on a good on him for doing that. But, um, there was also the Asbury Park Press. Did a a short documentary on a guy named Bill Cox who was a He's retired police officer. He's also acting as the client in the great go Summers episode.

spk_1:   27:36
So he's the witness,

spk_0:   27:37
he's the witness, and he works right next door to, um, Lucy Edwards school. Right? And he hey, has something to do with what we find his title. He is the transportation and security coordinator for Barney Get schools. So, um so basically, him and another maintenance worker are some of the main people that have had experiences. So

spk_1:   28:12
and this building's still there,

spk_0:   28:14
It's still there. Yeah, they were trying to turn it in tow office space. Uh, one time. Maybe they have since 2004. Essentially, they were. He was kind of that non believer, Mr Cox, Like, say, like, Well, I didn't believe it before, but now there might be something. So there's a lot of people will say that the that the ghost that's, you know, uh, slamming lockers, turning lights on and off and playing 19 forties music is actually Lizzie. You know what the school is named after? Um, and they refer to her as a good ghost. So that's, uh, that's what people are, you know, kind of gravitating towards, but there's no no way to really know that. Maybe, maybe it is, but, um, to be heartwarming. But there's

spk_1:   29:15
all sad because there's no kids there now and like nothing's going on.

spk_0:   29:19
Yeah, yeah. So there's also I found this from haunted places dot or ge. Um, there's one report that mentions a custodian who died from a heart attack in the basement back in the 19 seventies. So, you know, maybe that kind of like how he said with my other one, like there's six, There's six deaths that happened. But, you know, there's kind of like there's a few things.

spk_1:   29:48
We sound pretty Freddy Krueger there.

spk_0:   29:50
Yeah, there's Yeah, no, no kids could go to

spk_1:   29:56
sleepy only, Like we only like scary stories. Yeah, Yeah, she's a good ghost. She brings lunches to kids who forget their loans that we don't want any. Oh,

spk_0:   30:07
no. We want the gruesome details, but yeah, there's, ah, really common. Um, thing that people see is reported an apparition of, ah, translucent woman wearing a floral print print dress with their hair in a bun. Right. And, um, there's also been And this is what, the security, um, department head. He had actually seen lights coming on, uh, at night. And then I thought, OK, well, I'll deal with that in the morning, came back, and he actually found that there were no light bulbs installed, that all the bulbs around the ground, nothing was actually in the, um in the sockets and everything. Yeah. And, um, there's, ah, maintenance worker that, uh, he he's actually had It's when I was reading this. I was getting chills because I'm like that could happen to anyone. Anybody could react this way. But essentially, he's working alone. He's on a ladder and he's in. He's above an open door leading to the schools auditorium and he hears, ah, creaking sound. And as he looks down to see, what I see is the big doors in front of him, uh, swinging like somebody has gone through it, all right? And this was enough for him to be, you know, because he's all alone.

spk_1:   31:54
Yeah, now?

spk_0:   31:55
Yep. Exactly. So he left the building immediately. And when it comes back the next day, um, he's like, All right, well, I'll move my ladder. Let me go grab that. Like I've had some time to, like, be away from this. He found that the latter had actually been moved to another part of the building.

spk_1:   32:15
That's weird. Yeah, that's it would be awesome if, like the wall had been painted, though. Yeah, I've been done. Yeah, yeah. I would buy the story that she's a good ghost. It's like she's scared away. But don't worry. She finished his job

spk_0:   32:34
and he actually had another experience to He heard a telephone ringing. All right, uh, let me go find that real quick. So it led him to the formal the former principal's office. So he, you know, is trudging through the school trying to follow this, like, faint thats faint ringing sound. And he actually found the source. Hey, found an old rotary phone lying on the floor. But when he looked, he saw that there was no cord connected to the wall.

spk_1:   33:10
You know that stuff I do find scary or unnerve ing because it's like, are some things really trying to get your attention? You don't need me, and it's not It's not like something just wisps by. It's like, No, no, no. It's like, really pay attention to me. You know what really gets to May? Oh, Uh huh. That's really cool, Andi that honestly, I hadn't heard of that one

spk_0:   33:36
before. Yeah, it was. This one was pretty interesting because I had also never heard of this. And, you know, barn Agha is not that far from from Asbury Park. So

spk_1:   33:48
no more to get so far. And I mean, honestly, I've heard other things and morning it because, you know, you have the lighthouse, then you have no right there. I had never heard of that particular high school. But it just goes to show you, like ghost stories air local and their personal. And, you know, like I'm sure every kid that grew up in that neighborhood I heard that story and probably nobody else did. You mean, I will tell you that the ghost story that I'm going to tell I think everybody from New Jersey, everyone from New Jersey who's interested in in those stories probably has heard this one, though. Um, have you heard about the Lambertville High School?

spk_0:   34:26
That sounds familiar.

spk_1:   34:28
Because you're like, you're like, I'm actually going to prove you wrong right now. I have I and I will not be listening to it today. I am done. Goodbye. I will not be listening to this. This ghost story. It's the tale of phantom school, of

spk_0:   34:50
which we're going always plays that make night.

spk_1:   34:56
I will never know this story. And I do not like many statements as you have made. Um, it is kind of a famous one. Um, the building itself is not in existence any longer. It was, um it was torn down. I want to say in not that long ago. Um, maybe 2012. Um, but Lambertville is pretty pretty far south. It's not as far south as you could go, but it's pretty Southwest. It's right by New Hope, Pennsylvania, right by Bucks County. It's kind of a famous, famously haunted one, because it's it's got a really long story to it that I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go into the incredible details of it. But the other reason why fairly won't fairly well known is that weird New Jersey has done. Some has had some extensive stories written about it. And for those of you who are not local to New Jersey, you probably have. These guys have probably come out to your state, too. They do the weird us stuff, and they're do Weird and J and Weird. New Jersey and Weird. New Jersey is a magazine that's been published twice a year for like, 28 years. And essentially, it's all of the folklore and weird kind of stuff that happens in New Jersey, and it's mostly reader supplied. So you live in a town. Something weird happens in your town. You, right into these guys and it gets It gets published, and a lot of times it's the same stories. It's just being reinterpreted through Nugent new generations. And so the stories air the same. But people's experiences about them are different. Lambertville is was was one of these. You know, one of these schools, like you said, that was kind of it became was the high school. But it probably had at one point or another house younger greens as well, and was originally built on top of this hill. And it was a building that the people in the area were really proud of. You know what I mean? So they had built this this, uh, this high school eventually, um, the it became like the hell that it was on became like high school hill. You know, You mean where it was, everyone just referred to it. It was a huge. It was a local landmark. And now it's also known as, um Music Mountain. And up until the 19 fifties, probably late 19 fifties, everyone from the local area in New Jersey would have gone to this high school It if there was a major fire in it in 19 in the early 19 eighties. So the building itself was while it was not completely destroyed, it was not usable. We're almost 40 years, but it's still sat there as this, you know, huge ruin on on this mountain. Um, and the story that's the most famous story is this is the story of, um well, like they called the story of Buckeye. But it's actually the story of a guy named Billy. And this is one of those stories that again, kind of has, you know, a common theme. You hear it more more often, and some of the details don't really make a ton of sense when you when you look at them really hard. But you just kind of take the story as as as the framework of the experiences that people have. Um, so there was a, uh, a Apparently there was a young man who was the quarterback for the Lambertville High School, um, football team. And they were known as the Eagles. And he was in love with a young woman whose name was Maria. And he had, um, he had not quite asked her out yet. They were becoming friendly with each other and he was gearing up Thio to ask her out. Um, but right across the river there. Waas, a quarterback for the New Hope football team who were the Buckeyes and his name was Norman. And Norman was already dating Maria, and he was very much in love with her as well. When when Billy decides that, he's gonna ask Maria out and Norman decides exactly, let that happen. So he challenges Billy to kind of, ah, you know, winner take all football mean when the two meet, they're gonna both the quarterbacks of this game and they decide that this is back. You know, this is back in the day when you know these football players were like iron men, you know? I mean, they they played both sides of the ball, and so they go toe have ah, they go and they have this ball game and it's tied 21 to 21. And Norman, um, throws throws. Ah, you know, Norman, step back to throw the ball, and and, um, he sees Billy is going to intercept the ball. So rather than throwing the ball away, he beans him right in the head, working his head back and breaking his neck cheese. He dies on the field when he dies on the field. Everybody in both towns decide that football is just too dangerous and they stop. It's a little it's a little Footloose, you know. It's got a little short. You know of town gets together and decides that it's just too risky. Um, and big decide that they're gonna ban football and they're not gonna play football anymore. And that's what happens. So so. But Billy's ghost stays on the field and is seen on the field for like 60 years, and you can actually from time to time, according to local use. You can actually see him if you go to the field and you challenge him. Two. Uh, you know, it's a game where you challenge him toe. You know that you can you can make it to the end zone before he appears. Now that's the kind of legendary story, right? But while the building was still in existence, um, while the building was still in existence, people would see and experience a lot of other things inside and remember, it was also completely like abandoned, so you can And if you guys are interested. I'll definitely post links to this. But people would break in or people would trespass and do weird things like black masses, like, you know, drinking path, blue ribbon and trying to some of the devil and all of those things. But they also drew on the chalk boards and they drew these weird, very photo realistic classroom scenes, and they're incredibly creepy. But the building stayed there for about 30 years as this kind of a 40 years as this kind of, um, as this kind of ghost itself to Lambert bills passed. Now when it was torn down in 2012 there was a sigh of relief about it. But there was also a lot of sadness about it because it had been there for so long. Now, the store are literally dozens and dozens and dozens of stories that are related to this. This absolutely was the place that kids would go hang out. They would go and test their mettle. They would go and show how that brave they were. And a lot of them were just absolutely terrified by it. So I'm gonna post is many of these as I possibly can. But you see the story. I'm gonna actually read a little bit. This is actually from the weird New Jersey site. What guy isn't the name of the dead football player that most of the local kids of Lambert will remember? It's Billy that the ghost is called I myself a resident of Lambertville and spent many a scary night drinking and partying in the old place. Believe me, it's not something to fool around with. The local legend connected with Billy is that if you go to the old stairwell by the front door, leading to leading into the place and then stand facing the front window while standing between the first and second floor store stairway and out of the words, I challenge Billy to a game of football, Ah, football will be thrown from the top of the staircase by Billy breaking your neck in two. Just like what happened to Billy almost 75 years ago, that seems like it could probably be easily tested. Oh, but but it doesn't mean that the experiences that people have the other things the sense of a presence, the laughter, the sounds doesn't mean that that didn't happen. So this is actually right down in Lambertville. It's also kind of an isolated little place, you know? And I think that that's kind of a common common scene with everything that we're talking about. These stories, air not in Metropolis is. And maybe maybe we can reach out to people who are in more urban areas. What are your ghost stories? Tell us a little bit about what you're experiencing. Um, we're gonna post all of our links to all of our research in the notes for this for this week's podcast. I did want to keep this one a little bit, you know, when we went a little bit long, but that's just us. Um, but I want to thank Sean for jumping on. We're going to do more of these. We're gonna do different things to I'd like to do something on home to churches because I think that's really cool. And I'd like to do something on haunted graveyards, which I think is really cool. So if you have stories associated with those and I don't care where you are and carefree in the United States, I don't care if you're in Russia, Russia, if you're listening. Send us your haunted graveyard stories. Shawn and I are gonna You know, we're gonna dig into them as much as we can, but please follow us on Instagram. Please follow us on Facebook and Twitter. Go to our website, Please subscribe. Um, and if you can please share this to all of people on your social media, every little bit helps. It also really helps us. If you go on, give us a five star review. If you don't want to give us a five star review, that's fine too. Um, but if you have any advice for us Oh, are any input? Please email that to us that info at paranormal books, NJ dot com shown. Is there anything you would like to say to our listeners?

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