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How to Grow Your Church with Better Music

Rural Pastors Talk

Rural Pastors Talk
How to Grow Your Church with Better Music
Mar 04, 2026 Season 6 Episode 3
TJ Freeman, Joe Wagner, & Josh MacClaren

In this episode of Rural Pastors Talk, TJ Freeman and pastors Joshua MacClaren and Joe Wagner discuss church music and whether “better music” can save a struggling rural ministry. 

After swapping childhood music memories, they talk about why music matters and how churches often treat it as the quick fix for low attendance or discontent members. They contrast different approaches, from full bands to YouTube backing tracks, and argue that singing is meant to encourage one another, not to perform or attract crowds. 

The guys encourage pastors to aim for faithfulness and teach a biblical theology of congregational singing. They also share some more practical advice such as: choose simpler, thematically fitting songs, and use a service leader to guide the church through worship.