Enable Your Life with Dr. Rickard Elmore

#37 Are Psychedelics, the D.E.A. and Addciton Treatment all coming together?

August 07, 2022 Dr. Rickard Elmore Episode 37
Enable Your Life with Dr. Rickard Elmore
#37 Are Psychedelics, the D.E.A. and Addciton Treatment all coming together?
Show Notes Transcript

On this episode I’m going to be talking about something that's been on my heart and my mind for some time, which is, how do we help people more effectively and efficiently that are suffering with mental health, addiction and behavioral problems?

How do we use the advancements with todays science with the D.E.A., Addiction and Mental Health Treatment.


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Dr. Rickard Elmore with Enable Your Life. And today we're going to be talking about something that's been on my heart and my mind for some time. And that is how do we help people more effectively and efficiently, that are suffering with mental health and addiction or behavioral health problems? And so how do we match the advancements into technologies where we're at today, and all of the implementation of that information into, you know, the system of educators, treatment centers, therapists, community providers, all the people that are on a medical kind of support those sorts of things. And I was speaking of this, you know, we have these leading authorities in, in the world, and there are some most incredible human beings and one of these human beings is her name is Nichol Bradford, she is the founder of the willow group, and CEO. And of of the same thing, the willow group, and I met her at this event. And I just know that some of you know that I've been in the field and addiction and mental health treatment for the last 25 years. I have a doctorate degree in humanistic science, we look at supporting three people through systemic systems, from a model of intervention that I developed that was based through the Milan group that has a history of building systemic systems. With an anthropologist, I think some of you know, Greg... Some of you know, Gregory Bateson, was an anthropologist that brought, I would say, that system to the United States that helped family systems get developed from, you know, that perspective. But people like Nichol Bradford, I had seen for years ago, maybe it was 2014, or somewhere around there. She when she was in the room, the effect that this human being has and is like, I don't know, I want to help millions of people. I think she's wanting to help billions beyond or even more than this, but what I wanted to really focus on was how wonderfully engaged she is into the solution. And she is the cofounder and executive director of a global nonprofit, transformativetech.org, a global ecosystem dedicated to, educating, gathering, gathering, and activating well being tech founders, and investors and innovators. And so that's just a little bit of her profile. But what I really wanted to say is, I've watched this person, she has been advanced in helping human beings evolve themselves out of all of the Mental Health terminology, all of the addiction terminology, they already have the science that we're going to extend life, they already have the science, that they're going to extend quality of life. So they're in a focus around quality of life, and extension of life, and really have gotten to that. And that brings me over to the addiction and mental health treatment fields is right now in 2022, we just have


we just have gotten, the DEA has taken a number of schedule one drugs and taking them off of schedule one which means we can research them, universities can have curriculum around them, and we can be educated about them. And a lot of these are psychedelic drugs. And the psychedelics are starting to be known to have such a wonderful function. And what we need is more support in implementation. Because the psychedelic drugs aren't going to work for everybody. And we know that. And we also know that just like our technologies that we're realizing like, Okay, what, what psychedelic practitioner and what protocol are they going to use? Well, if you go back just about 10 years ago, there most of the people that were that are doing the work and psychedelics are like church based psychedelic groups that have had a really big struggle to become a place where people can commune In a good way, and there's been all kinds of hardships and all kinds of different ways, because society and people are that way. That's how all of our society is we have these things that come up, let's say. And, and I say that because yeah, there's going to be hardships, people are going to be out of scope, people are not going to know how to handle it, and all of this kind of stuff. And but what is in scope is we have places like mindbloom, who is I don't know how they're managing finding all the experienced people, but I think we, we, if they have technology to help more people, and we can get more people like Nichol Bradford, hopefully I can get her  focus into how we can help implement. Because if you unify, let's say, let's say somebody is on five medications, and then they have a situation where they're maybe taking one medication. And maybe maybe some of their symptoms are relieving. Maybe their daily habits are better. Maybe they're living in a better way, maybe they're not stressed out and overwhelmed. Maybe they're not wondering if they're going to have food next week. I wonder if they even have a place to live tonight and all of the societal things, is we're seeing that we're evolving in this way. And, and how do we bring them together in the right now and so I have been focused, you know, some of you know, I’m the thepsychedelicinterventionist.com, and we've been doing psychedelic interventions for 20 years for people and and what we have found is that not only does it not work for everybody, but most people that want one are seeking it not with your permission but telling you that's what they want to do. And so how do you deal with somebody that's not necessarily asking your opinion, your perspective? Where do you, you know, a therapist would say, how would you draw the line? Where is the boundary and who who's the dictator that boundary and that's just like alcohol, there's the the, you know, you don't need to know if you've drinking too much alcohol if you're, if you're drinking too much alcohol, and you're intolerant to do other things, and it's affecting you now. It's no longer a medication, it's, it's something that's causing a problem. Right. And so, you know, those sorts of things we need support for, for instance, right now. Every medical doctor in the country is allowed to prescribe ketamine. Hardly any buddy knows how to. And the reason why is because it is something that is known to be safe, if done monitored, as you would monitor a number of other medications, it is another medication. But the significance of what its effects are is what's really different, is there isn't another medication that they've been showing these kinds of significant effects from like this, and which leads into ketamine an anesthetic, that it's not a it's not a true psychedelic for psychedelic terminology purposes, but it's being valued as that is some of the effects or what you also receive when you do psychedelics. So, there's these similar qualities that are around the whole idea that so.


So, what we're looking at is, is okay, so how do we educate these people? Well, I'm watching people use prep preparation protocols, depends on where you get trained, is how they prepare you. Depends on what that therapist believes is what music you should listen to. It's where they were trained, how you should prepare, integrate. And so, so there's, there's a number of certification company certification places that a bunch of licensed people came together and said, Okay, here's how we should certify people. And and they're certifying licensed people. Then you have a bunch of coaching people that have all of this experience. They're certifying people their way. Yeah, people like me, I'm focused around the addiction, mental health and addiction and addiction and mental health treatment fields. And I want to certify psychedelic recovery coaches, not to be a therapist, not to be a drug and alcohol counselor, I've spoken to a number of the drug and alcohol counselor organizations, and they have no curriculum and nobody, even on staff that has any experience with that curriculum. And so, here I am with 20 years of experience, I'm credentialed by them. And so what I have found is, it's easier if we take the experience of clinicians, drug and alcohol counselors update everybody together. You see the drug and alcohol counselors that are around On 70% of the employees that do drug and alcohol treatment and are wonderful people. I mean, they understand behavior, they understand what's not working too. And if you educate them to be able to advance themselves, and you know, and so so I'm looking at, well, you're the psychedelic interventionist we're, we were supposed to  start this Docuseries back in November of 2021. But that went awry, because we had nowhere to refer to. So what we're going to  go do a psychedelic interventionist show and have nowhere to refer to; thats ridiculous. And so we looked into all right, what about community? What about education, and then we get the Biden administration that says, within two years, they're going to have MDMA and psilocybin ready to prescribe. And as because they've got to build up the training, but then you have this consideration. There's all these people that can't wait. They, you got the science, we can't wait for two years. So you have places like Oregon, and they they are have a system around psilocybin, that, you know, is wonderful, because we've seen all these incredible effects. Well, guess what, 90% of the people in the country won't go to Oregon to use psilocybin, because they don't do it like that, they're, they're in a state of, you know, they want to talk to their doctor, they don't want to have to go through that deep experience, you know, and this is where some of these other medicines come into effect. And, and so what we're seeing is, is, the better thing I'm sort of looking at is, how could I best help people to be able to utilize whatever it is that the resources are, I would imagine, in 20 years, the resources are going to be more advanced, just like 10 or 15 years ago, before the iPhone, you had a Blackberry that most people was it was a little computer. That was like, if you didn't have a Blackberry, you were in them before that we had. So instead of talking about hey back when I was that, you look at people like Nichol Bradford, like I said earlier 10 years ago, she's more advanced then than almost everybody is now. And, and when you come around somebody like that, the evidence in their being and the effectiveness on humanity is very clear. I was talking about this in a video of the footprint coalition. And and there's these people that are advanced in their abilities, they are advanced in their practices. And they're doing something about it and not waving a flag. And I'm like, Wow, man, I can be inspired by so many people, but there are very few that I've come in contact with, that have given me such clarity of what is absolutely Dr. Erin Haskell is another one of these advanced that has helped 1000s of people to be able to help millions, you know, Tony Robbins is one of these people. And,


and you see, we have all of these licensed clinicians and physicians in the country that have been carrying the load. We don't even have enough licensed people to handle the amount of people that need support, right. And so, all of the educated ones, let's infuse them and help them in the ones that are along the way. Let's not make them go through the last pattern to justify why they shouldn't be able to value the information today. You know, and so, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, a couple of minutes into the conversation, and we're finding ourselves you know, I'm looking at all of these different frames of technology and how to how do we mend them and have them come together? And so the conversation is going to continue on. I hope you have a wonderful day. I look forward to connecting soon.