Ronan Murdock, Economics teacher at The Academy, breaks down the Leaving Cert Economics exam and gives his tips and tricks to help students increase their grades.
Ronan Murdock, Economics teacher at The Academy, breaks down the Leaving Cert Economics exam and gives his tips and tricks to help students increase their grades.
Oh, I have welcome back and murder the man with the year old sign in front of his name, the silent heroes on either end, we'll go and yet you're happy to be back. Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah. Zoe was actually blown away with your air in here before the podcast started in 10 minutes before. Go through this notes, making sure that he knew exactly what was going on. My top prize. Yeah, I know. I know. And around the last time you were in, we talked a lot about business, so he got some seriously go feedback off students that are a, I was shocked that a lot of people didn't actually know the general breakdown of the different units in rooms important. Yeah. So that was huge. And Danny, you're dying to get in a alter ego[inaudible] Irish, but today we got you back in to talk about something. I know from hearing from students in schools that they're sort of like that they find a little bit more difficult to fund economics. Yeah. I have bought by direct and that is, I don't know anything personally, but he can always call us.
Speaker 2:I'd say, I'd say maybe some lines with tubes into my guests might think he denounced it harder because they didn't get bogged down in the harder questions. And that's what I think will, will someone you can easy, very easy to fall into that trap. If you're preparing. I freely in 13 he opened up the Copay, you pay the sample paper or a prospect, whatever, and you see some questions you don't know and then you strike strike and look into it. And that can basically knock their confidence more so because like, but they, a lot of times she'll forget and economics that there exam, there's no compulsory request. It's not like in business or you know, an Irish and stuff. You might've gone questioned, you know, choice and economics that you've, you eight long questions, you pick any four know Jesus before Mike on for macro. So it's an incredibly, um, open paper in that site. So, and it's always students, I find you to better our students or a paper a little bit cold. See Women Estonian and they'll specialize. And[inaudible] is another thing about it. You don't miss[inaudible] consent. Okay. Yeah. Like, you know, an average mark and all the questions you do, do you want to be like, right. You can nail those four questions and I don't have to worry about the ODA. For me it doesn't matter if he had zero on the rest. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's, I mean that's what happens students a lot of time. The worst thing I think students could do now have their parent for the link through to start looking dude comms paper and looking at what they don't know and trying to learn that rather than go over what they do know well from the, from the years.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I don't even know what your question was. Oh, that's great. You know, not that actually answered the question. I was going to ask it in under five minutes anyway. So, um, so in terms of economics, the way it's laid out, I usually like say for me say if I was coming in at fifth year, right. But what do you say to a student or qualities, what is it? I don't, I wouldn't even know. Well like in fifth year now or like you said you like is there like, you know last time we talked about there was seven units so isn't there in business. Yeah. And then so we're not, you're
Speaker 2:quoting economics scope, they stay locked in. It's micro macro but then some questions it's hard to tell if they lend themselves more towards micro macro to kind of ask like random short questions and stuff. Data and though will kind of fall in between the both Bush January. Okay. It's what you want to do. If you're, if you're looking at your, if you're doing meetings an hour, if you're looking at shooting whatever you to sit back and actually look at what we do know for sure cause we caused this. The order paper can be a bit, you know, difference every year and that confused you. But what we seen every year, well will know space and last 20 years the papers. But anything else? Same thing that what students will always get is they'll always getting questions. Blood mount leftists the of day. And sometimes I might be lucky. I'm lucky in the market. Does mobile site to full long questions. I so like each long questions, we're at 75 marks at a 400 and I'd see looking at like 19% your paper. So if you're able to sit back and say like right so far I've always seen a long questions blood mindless Jesse and I've always seen a long question market structure, right? That's two questions I have. You're right. All right, our your four. Okay. So you can nearly like I'd always sit back in what I can do on my 60th for the last two week stretch is an, since you finished the course and just chipping away on slide mindless, just be on all the market's structured questions and the goal will be in the liens and they opened the paper, they chip away at those two questions, they both too long and then they're picking two from the remaining six and that puts you in a really strong position. And that's it. The long question. So same thing, eight long questions. You pick four exactly there with 75% and the remaining 25% it's a short questions and there's nine and you do any six. Right. But it's the same idea of the short questions. You know, you'll always pretty much see one on slide much plasticity pretty much all the time you were, they nearly every time they get a question mark structures as well there. So I would weigh out[inaudible] my six years is, and we mentioned all the past papers and stuff, but like some years if they, let's say motion, they instantly insects and they only need supply demand glass and they own unmarked structure theme, not announce some of yours are. They managed to get up to 63% of their paper like in 2014 or something like that literally yet. And I showed them, I'm out today and we spend a full class when we were like, right, imagine me on that. We only need those questions or whatever. I think it was like two short questions and two long questions and uh, and, and that, that would have been it or sorry, not to two short questions and tree long questions. Okay. Alarm questions, plant amounts they got along question. That's the city and they got along question market structures. So tria the four, three, eight. The fourth question is doing, leaving cert with locally fall down to that. So that's, that's, that's the best case scenario. But then I even played it off my sixth street and my Sheldon like the worst case scenario. And as you can tell her, I'm going out with prepping melts. Rewarded is roughly off the top of my head. It's a very 40% on average, you know, and I've, I've done, you know, gone through from the classes and if anyone's doing economics and just look out the pattern, the past papers and you're pretty much always began for around 195 marks. I himself a former hundreds, no, it'd be one long quest to long question. 75 marks each and chances are the scenes, two short questions that like 16 marks each there as well. Here's a long question, broken down and turn it[inaudible] split out the timelines. It's quite straightforward. Economics. He get like you get, you do your short questions than half an hour. You have two and a half hours until it for the paper and you do short questions in half an hour and they do for a long question and half an hour each one. So take for example, will not question 75 marks. You've tardy minutes to dose. So the students who I'd always say to my students, like you divide the question by 2.5 to tell you how much time you have set of questions though for Turkey marks divided by 2.5 to 12 minutes to do. And they don't, you know, they're not in a toddler and any exam doing that, but they work on fifth year. Then straight away they have paper and see 20 marks, eight minutes and then you know it or not. That's really good for them that once they get their head around dashed it sandy.
Speaker 1:Well, but is it like when you're answering the questions just like the business or to build your[inaudible]
Speaker 2:exactly the same. Pretty much. Yes. So like I said, going gonna get into that. It's a good question. We're trying to market divided by five, four points. That's genuinely when we're looking at, so I'm not going to have to watch that. That's what they'll get yet. So in a way in you they can, they can take advantage of as well. The marking scheme that's like, you know, some of these questions are for 20 they might say like an expanding consequences of rising house prices or whatever and might be a 15 mark question and it could be treatment for five marks. But if a student puts down five examiner up to take their bath tree GGA canceled. Exactly. Yeah. So like I'd always say to students, even like I've even seen the students I've gotten over the years who have performed for you, Al, is that like when you're going over to paper with them and stuff, you'll notice that the way this question was looking for tree stayed sometimes give four or five as insurance.
Speaker 1:What would I be right in saying their business you said and work like that. None of businesses where it's, yeah, same.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, um, yeah, so and that's it. There's the odd exceptions here and there for you. There's some places where it doesn't quite, you know, business, they might have a set only four points you can that she, I mean economics might be dot. But like typically you what you're working with yet.
Speaker 1:So like[inaudible] for example though, if you said if the point, if you have four points, I know obviously this isn't an economics school oriented, that economics, even though I did it in college, I had put the yet we have you for at different say name four colors, red, blue gorilla does it, does that, does that, yeah. We're going through as we're going, we're going through and taking your attention. So just for, so
Speaker 2:if you to treat Aki, we compete as long as we get for property to net theater thing is to point them to be properly developed so that once you develop on a property and that's they're looking for all, all try and push. And I'd always stress that students to try and make sure to keep an eye its structure. The paper that they envy gets examined on your solid, it's very clear it's you know mean you don't, you don't sort of tend to waffle that with much. That seems to be I suppose the only thing that will be warn students about badge at a lot of times a day in the micro and micro questions like they might, let's say you get a macro question on the consequences of increased as prices rise. Some seeds might try and when that question was I, and that just started talking off the top of her head and they might raise some data points, but the message it's, it's very hard. You have to read go by their marketing scheme which you become. Consumers can award you points out their discretion if you've popped, developed it or whatever. Yeah. It rarely happens. Like if students were ringing us and they just come up, go up top, so id be conscious of that. That's why I nearly a lot of time trying to push my students funds micro questions because there's a much more rigid marking scheme that they know that and they know the key points the camera's looking for. It's a lot to say. It's a, it's a safer bet.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I find it's almost like in science where they used to have to the old food pyramid. Do you remember that? And there there's questions on that until some Caden and exam started debating the film paramis I know you're probably correct. Yeah. And you know it was a heat and I always say an officer here she was, cause there was a horrible writing and a bit of snuff on the paper, but the uh, but he basically was probably correct but he wasn't answering the question was like price you talking about the food pyramid that they given to you, is that sort of what you mean? Yeah, exactly. And Yeah, and so I'm not
Speaker 2:c mark. If I'm craving like I can always tell the students value invite you've probably studied for, so you were kind of sort of going off lots of top of her head because students who are and a bit in the day off the top of her heads you do actually have to read over their points and double check the market's gains and it's sometimes it's a lot hard to call it plus because you can see where they're yet not bought. It's a risky won't like that. If you're aiming for h one h two you can't really, you can't be relying on that strategy in the day of the exam to just, you have to, you have to go back in and play by their rules and you know the rules are set at the mark and skip the
Speaker 1:would you would you almost know that a coming into an AP economics exams shore to the grade range you're going to be in because you know what meant material. You have
Speaker 2:three or like even now I find I always have a good idea. Sometimes my business and our students can surprise you, but it doesn't generally seem to happen. And economics, I'd always like if I was to my head all that shit in my jet, whatever grade, it tends to be very much like that. Like it's not why it's just felt is that the waiting time girl? So yeah, you can tell you even Nancy tell as well and you opened the paper. If I develop in the paper in June and a lot of time I could have an idea what, I had a paper with seats on students, but just by the or sometimes you might see a question that might look easy and students might be directed going into that but like they might look at question five day and being looked at. Simple question. Policy might be a complete disaster but there go for that and they can get cut out and so I can push him. I like my class a lot. This year we've been, we've been pushing a lot on like the bait, the micro like I'll go through even just friends on 60[inaudible] now. Like I'd, I'd be encouraged in a lot to make sure you look over currencies can school like six in the last six years. Right? So you on the street like sit down, we go to past questions and and stuff. Like what happens if the euro increases value against the dollar and you want it and you want to be careful and everything that they want to be spot on that like right. If their dollar they after try and refer to like foreign direct investment from America coming in. So often you have to, you have to read all of them really quickly. Like you have to read out those questions really carefully. But that would be one question and look out for currencies every year and we, we've gone through them all. I'm my six, six, okay. Six I last six year the least it's been marked as 4% your paper some years it's been worth and not 6% or something. Yeah. So it's nice about for students, like if they start to ship right down to it can get and set up another question. I'd be looking at this here. Exam the co they on the grass, they've seen the question costs with drawing graphs and cost production that's come up for the last four years. Now I don't even know if I, it's a very, I say would that be prediction, but like I think you're mad to lean for not covering it so that we see the pattern and she only six at the end, 25 marks or whatever each time, 60% of your grade, but you kind of get into that many that, that, that are in your head. Like he be covered them. Laughs. Um, another question I'd be looking at for our June this year and be like, look, I'll supply demands, uh, questions from the last five years, but especially a 2017, 15 and 13, you'll see a question on like, how had the market you could live in can be affected by like a shift in the supply demand curve. Now, right
Speaker 1:here, this isn't there anymore.[inaudible] but again, Youtube way
Speaker 2:75% your paper I like look out for keywords like you'd have to refer to like[inaudible] not snobby like but the excess demand, a surplus and stuff you'd wanted to check out and mark keep in 2017 and that question you'll be able to see the key points in that. But like Derek, Derek, questions data and their, their questions will I be looking into a lot of like especially as well inflation, if they're looking over papers you have the last few years, it's been not buried. Second year, it didn't hope last year. Again, like you'd want to make sure that you knew that very well and especially like it's unlikely that asks about high inflation because you don't have that problem. It would have been raised of like price stability things there, but okay.
Speaker 1:Again. Sure. I think, well no, it's you'll stay if they're ones that IP I'd be looking at it for a bit. Yeah. Fantastic. So let's just make my site soon. Let's call him later. Yeah, no, and I'm saying he's gone to handle that or does it, what day is today? Today is just the time flies, you know, I think it's the 23rd today. So it's Brian Driscoll until the leaving cert, isn't it? 13 yeah. So sorry that was, sorry, it's 13 days to leave or what would you say to David Little was sitting there. So I roll, I'm real sorry. I'm really sorry. I've been on the studio units and business folks in on my Irish oral, the slave trade. What I[inaudible] him at the time, the third ego pressure and again till I go to like take it
Speaker 2:at the time you have to study. So like you sit down, you say like, right, I've got, am I realistically Antinotis? Well it economics exam is not until like a Friday things like somebody's 21st or something, but they might be able to get it day a day or two to study. Now that would be a huge advantage on, on, on, of course, on youth, the youth of, right. So I'm not, I've seen a big thing. I'm going to warm up students in economics. Right. This is not like don't fall into the trap of being like, Oh[inaudible] the last few, the last few days, like the leaves. It's very tiring. All that sort of crap. But would I do if I was to advise in your position now it's, I'm working with economics really hard for the next three or four days and then like maybe park, you know, then you want focus on of course in your English name pronounced then. Yeah. And then look at your timetable. I'm trying to see, you might have, might be looking at a day or two left after that, but overall, let's say they could invest maybe 20 hours study. That study is, yeah, 20 hours. If between now and the leaving cert, the way of you said 20 hours a week I'd spend a goat and I, I'd actually sit down and I'd spent, I'd say honestly by four I was in the short questions I'd spend. Yeah, you before iris to do each one. You might tell[inaudible] the logic there in second but like I'm sure we've, I don't want to castigate them all the short questions and we spent like a nearly like three four plants straight. Just to your point does answers the reason why she recycles the same ones time, time again, it's a great way of advising of the whole course in general and, and the big thing was the short questions is it's 25% your paper so it's 100 marks in the 400 but like you won't be very tactical. Like you open up the exam, you look at your short questions and you're going to see nine nine them Ib. I always say to my class is what they, what they do all the time, Brandon's genes to do is that they to answer the hard ones, they'd spent way too much time compensating for the hard ones and I go to the easy questions way too quickly and then you might be looking around and getting like, Oh God, eight and 16 and 10 at age 16 but stealing nailed three or four simple ones. They are going to get into higher grades. So what you want it to be organized and date exam. Although the paper you'll see a non short questions, Debbie, Debbie, probably three or four very manageable ones. You circled them and I'd always get my class and be like, you have to lose to them and like I think some of them I tried my class mad because like we expanded version maybe like a, I give them 15 minutes and they don't have to do four short questions like probably get the doing about eight minutes, but I drag it out to 15 and like we go through it word for word to make sure they got four marks each time you get the logic there because of yours. It's hugely psychological. If you're sitting off and you're like right, I've got four short questions at the nine down there and I'm confident of that. I got full marks now all do then is too and remaining five and that's it. And who cares if there's too long questions or whatever to Shorecrest and he left blank. It doesn't matter if they're only taking your best six and you want, you really want, like I've seen like some students I've kind of bumped into athlete and Johnson had to go on whatever, like they're telling me to look over the papers, they're like laughing her head off. Like I've got 95 with a hundred short questions. They might have only gotten age tree or something like that, but they were so, so disciplined on that. And that's a really, that's a quick way. I think the couple of be great by about 5%. So knew would like to do. And so going back to the question out there on the wall, you 20 hours, I would genuinely sit down and spend a good five hours practicing four or five hours in the short questions. I get like I try and sit down and get, you know, the, um, I try and get, like I'd say the last I take, I go try and get from 2018 to 2013 or 12, if you can on and um, and that, and that would be a huge, huge benefit. Um, and I see patterns to see the same one coming over, like if anyone's, until he comes again. Look the question in 2013, 14, 15 and 17 question one has always been something about like scarcity or opportunity cost, the trade off between like own limited wanting and limited resources and they must make choice. They involve opportunity cost, but like you sit down and Samantha, you know, that's, that's an easy 4% if they, if they spot us only. But anyway, that's that. That's what I do. And then if you remain 15 errors, I'd sit down and I'd spend a good four hours, um, supply. Very, yeah, four hours again and supplied mindless just in battery hours and market structures. But I spend like, and then after that, the other seven hours, I go over costs for a couple of hours, just practicing ground the grass, get the key points on them and then whatever else here or whatever as your portion on top. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot. Yeah. Like every, every student's different. But the things that I'd be doing, the voice films, my leaving cert short questions to be reversed. And the elements that I supplied my under Stacey market structures, I've been rude to stare. I know them inside out and then your costs drawing the graphs and make sure touch and then yeah that's that's what I be. I be chipping away.
Speaker 1:Not really. You kind of see it kind of seems like a ticket to get a good mark. You only that you don't see the best and economics. We have to be the western economics exam and there's a big difference cause I know biology that's similar. You can, you can pick certain ones and the people who are good at actually answering the specific questions what they're looking for on it we'll do really well versus somebody who can really write your biology book and they know everything quite well.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's cruel at that because I've got some students that are bringing questions in class and then a very random, you're testing micro especially like they might, they might might intake the key points that are answering their grade and they might only get like, you know 12 out of 20 we get there at ut. Now we can understand the coming through the but it's just suppose the way it goes as part of the scale is answering the question I guess. Yeah. Like it's, it's the definitions again are just crucial for anybody in your, in your revise now over in your state. They're very, very strict and they just have to sit down like I need, I'll give him a class like a handout with all them tickets out to work out over them. But you find the patterns are the ones that come up a lot and you have to make sure you can't really wing the definitions and you can kind of explain off the top of your head. She spoken to mark. So,
Speaker 1:yeah, it's again, another thing, the, the uh, something you said there stroking me and sort myself and Gavin of idea today and some of them I've chatted about with my maths classes that the psychological aspect of, and what I did with my last class, just to kind of give you the context of this question is, you know, the certain time their paper one is that they would have probably had an exam before and how they could spend an hour and first 20 minutes when they sit in the exam to actually set themselves off. So, for example, we made it, I suggest my students make a, uh, like a fake formula tables booklet not to bring it when they go in stuff that's they've learned off by our, is that they that aren't in the tables book, they are right a dance and then they suddenly have to, and also I was talking about, uh, you know, the error and hour and a half 40 exam, like not, you know, asking people what they think was on head the last exam all or stuff on the day and say, I know what time economics was on it, but the day itself, what would you suggest your students to do before the exams? So they're not going in, they've gone in warm whatever name ready. They're going in with those things through their head. Um,
Speaker 2:yes, it's on the, on the, on the day of the exam. You did, they sing again, just commenting time. You don't want to be going over at the new, you want to grow and mature. You've got all your studying, not saying you want it to just keep shifting over what you do now. And in terms of, I'd always, I give my students like little sheet of like that the key things to sort of their mind with reddit could fall short. Like some questions won't go Ms. Dot. So IC students do and if I could cook at question five 80 5:00 PM five seat and you've got it's alarm question, half an hour to do it as a student, like five, eight, five B might be easy enough for five c might involve calculations and that can be tricky, right? But students could on the date exam open up and say, I know too, I was like calculations and they might go from that question. It might have been two, five and five being that takes them 20 minutes and then we're doing question for, I've seen calculations question looks a lot harder than it is. Like anyone listening, doing the grumps wait, something like the law of comparative advantage. And if you get that wrong, it's very unforgiving. Like you're getting, you know like six at a Turkey or whatever, but they can't go and do a different question because they've already invested 20 years. So I'd always be stressed. I'm like under daily exam try and spot those little things when you're going into the exam and be like if you open up your question, if you're, if you see like calculations part five questions C or whatever at the end I'd be advised to choose to do that part first or do that early on as well in the exam so that way then in the off chance in game I can stay not the end of the world even wasted five minutes you can go over and do another question and they dare to think more so like the no there isn't valid. The IB looking out for us and like you want to, you want to be going in like get your head around the keywords especially it's called things like it says list name or state. You don't need to develop honors and use that as an as an advantage as we'll have to see on the short questions, whatever. But you really do want to, it's a huge confidence thing and the biggest thing of course it's just make sure it's too like you remember it's if like if you open the paper and you see an easy paper, Duncan overly confident because easy paper, I mean a tougher and scheme of course the ideal way of course don't have knock your confidence. You open up the exam is see very tough paper. Well you know there is going to be, everyone's in the same boat. It's going to be compensated in the market is giving me a bit easier. So it's all about just keeping your head at that thing. I found my, my turns out here locally since teaching Clark, John's a very academic school. Whenever the papers were tougher to greater gender roles, the better. I got a genuinely open paper and some years it's a tough, tough year. I was Kinda happy like I was like, yeah that'd be fine at this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew we as a reclose 90 but like the other people that weren't poke around with[inaudible], which will bring my Shit[inaudible] similar at seminar format. So it actually as well. It's usually the janitor's marketscape yeah, and just to keep, just kidding.
Speaker 2:They're hiding the day, the time, and don't, didn't ever sit in there and on all this isn't, there's stuff you now if you rearrange the papers and so that's why I think like they open up and take for gas. It's not like, it's not like that. Our subjects, like with business where you've got an impulsive question or things or you have to this question, you don't have to pay them like this really tough, but it's all the way around. But economics me get in and you find that the ones here you find easier. Wilmington does go down, I suppose.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Now and before I was gonna, we're just gonna move on to Naela is the case. So say you've sold me, now I want to do economics, like you're selling me for what? What am like obviously we have in a, in a skill. Every single time that I listened to ask for feedback from students that I know in the school, how did they get on? They loved the skill. But then every single one of them, I actually even a this before said Rhonda Murdoch's unbelievable. He's always incredible. Like he's changed my, and I'm not sure if it's because obviously it's cause you're a fantastic but also because of the subjects that you teach and they consistently say economics is like you've changed, you've changed their view and economics for them. And this is over a number of wide range of students over and over years. So you have these crash courses criminal now as this weekend is and what that is. What, what the hell do you aspire virus. How do you plan out these five hours? What do you get? What you give to the students? What the fuck man? What can they expect when they come or not? Have you changed them?
Speaker 2:I I literally, I love the Christ cause it's cause it's very, they've never, I always got to and move the gun things from your dome students. You're like rice does amount of time. They know you contact, sorry, go talk to the camera while it's really nice.
Speaker 1:It's been, it's been 40 minutes. 40 minutes. One camera, your
Speaker 2:role here at, I like it because that you'd basically just sit down and you and you might bet like the the likely questions and it's pretty basic predictions and that's all I do. Like I just, I probably like, I like it too though cause I'd always be straightforward to class and say we're not going to cover the whole, of course Max five backs and it's not going to do anyone fails if I try to even get near that sort of stuff. But I will always do that. Like my bad stuff about, well I said what's blood man? Less deaths in the market structure things. The short question and then I'll just look over. I showed them once and haven't star. I've covered two things. Questions that are frequent. I haven't come up in a long time. That's the first thing is to give a priority and also left a little curve ball. Questions not look a bit easier, but the key words that you want to put into your team that will, like I, I'd sit down, like map out and I'd show him like why every question we're doing and show them the logic wife picked out one night and get up at two 30 or 40 them don't bought. And I kind of wove. Yeah. I, I'd always even show them even with start your course at say like a Sheldon the list, my question to go from the previous year and they are, they came off[inaudible] be like, look, this is what I went on last year. I did it all the time. I don't skim the values of this while I went on last year. You see that the ones came open, the ones whenever they can come up with everybody, see how worthwhile it was for students every year. And I think then students can see that. And I'd be like looking at all the brothers and sisters, you know, checked out or compare us. Yeah. So you see, I'm not like, you know, but this is why. Because I've always see when they see that, when they see the predictions from previous here and let's see what happens. Dot. You're in the paper day that they'd always get a bit, you know, they'd always get a bit more focused on anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. It's like a, it's like I got, I got around tomorrow's class and I know he's taking these precise questions for a reason that he's put a lot of Parker and Portland into and a lot of effort into and eh, and that, that could, that consistently shows and probably that's why they get those do get those reviews because you break down for exactly what it is, you know, the waffle menu. You so consistent with your predictions.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Well they, they, they, they appreciate it too because it's something someone's, even when you can save them time and be like, look this, you show the markets by topics they can afford to be bad and not, look, Gosh, I'm still be for your paper. And they read. I find that really appreciate that as well when you're not pushing them to do the cook the topics, they don't want them. I haven't done a lot of my students over the years. Dot Mckay to on forever. I've been like, don't call if you don't, if you're not good, this topic, don't do it. And instead of he say just a few hours there, I put that into supply nine mark structures kicked down on them. So for and go that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And Sam and can't use that as an advantage. But um, but that's it's called, I always like to have that crunch for us cause we only got like five hours to do it and you map it out and like, you know, always have them laid at the board and showed my logic and, and it's like I basically have the page numbers and we just crossed at each page and when we've got them done. Chip Wade, right, 30 of them. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I find that, look when, when a city's crash courses as a teacher, you have to be so focused. You cannot waste one minute homes. Whether that be again the energy in for the students are building towards something important. Then every single teacher I've seen, and this is where I've taken my stuff from PE teachers that give their plan is is out there too to the t to a mark the second year.
Speaker 2:They're very enjoyable though. Like I find that like you're not asking students, I love them. I guess this think were unconference, juvenile, so focused as well. They want it and you don't actually have to you to read. Like I find they're all connected. They're kind of like chatting a bit like very upbeat after it because they feel like a lot better position from it. Like then have you never, you can't really go on and say, oh look these random questions and trying to customize you like to see is and you drive down to Nevada. They look this side of the tweets me to in that question you kind of just keep chipping away after BFO them. Now I I actually find that being about some joyable the students being motivated or the fact the year you're not, you can kind of use it
Speaker 1:when the students really knowing that on slightly. Well that's what I find anyway. That's what I find when you get out into competence. Me and Nice. Fantastic. So with that in mind, what Eh, hold on. Do you like teaching best? I know we kind of touched her last time.
Speaker 2:No I don't. I I like I probably, it's weird. I'd find the a lot I like to actually teaching economics then I'm fine to get again. But then I think with business you can nearly be more bit more actually ended here and you've got the core stolen. That's the teacher placement speaking, which I don't know why that is. They can take away a bit more like cause you got so much lot of this like notes and stuff and then I spell was Irish thing of like, but ours is just stat that yeah they're very hardworking, limiting, higher level large. They're always in there to serious and you get a bit of crack it on the orals because you're all trying to like be like this and liking questions and you try and work Rach, moving them around there. You know the, the art time would love to strategies and that yeah, to direct itself. I didn't know which one. I agreed. He actually quite a lot of courses and then as well is there. Yeah, I know what I mean. Teachers 40 hours. It's on paper on the paper. Two office he said on the all but yeah, crash courses on Sunday for ours and Saturday freakonomics and the following Friday then for the business.
Speaker 1:And how have you stayed looking silly on like you know what all this teach at night. I told her younger brother[inaudible] and it's looking fantastic cause obviously and not fair plight. Te Tell me just because I know we don't keep[inaudible] longer. I know, I know. You've got it. You've got to go to this session. Session number four are for the year for time. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me just if you were to pick, I know you had it there, you've told us what we should focus on and that is their predictions within those things or is there,
Speaker 2:yeah, like it's in order. Little things I'd be looking at in four and I'd say even does that some, yeah, if I was going over the basic ones I'd always just be like, oh no mover one. Like we had a current budget surpluses here for this is for concerts here for breast on 10 years. Science students like looking over from the markets, chemo, it's going to come with two ties and six and that's one I'd look out for. And then other questions will be Yam. What are ones that would be the factors that influence level investment in Ahrens and economic impacts of increased investments that hasn't gone since 2011 they ask question investment that falls in facts approach and that's just a little, might be looking at four because the 11 investments come up on a lot learned lately so that won't be looking at it. It's a hard one to break the obstacles other than hoping that year. So it means something. This midi year going to be, that's a gentler three off the top of my head. I'd be kind of like tiny bit more attention on that and said inflation again, we just obviously the one there, so little ones like the balance between liquidity profitable profitability's been like every second year for the last few years. You have last five, six years. Hasn't walked in hope last year. Chip over out again. Um, but, but I, I've actually got it mapped out at about 2020. I don't know of these questions that I'm going through there. They're the ones that are just jumping in up top of my head and you always just want to make sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1:I love looking at the Murdoch had Murdocca her list of what he thinks is call up the gambler part of it, of which one to stay on and off season. It's pointed out to and he showed him pattern, the ProQuest and I'm like, look, there's just my logic every time I like going to do them because the students get it after that. They're not like, I'm not, I'm not, I don't think these are just things, you're not just going on. Nobody. I'm like voting leads or things. Disquiet folk songs. The pattern,
Speaker 2:if it's in the news for whatever reasons or not and that's it. And they get it. They don't never like, I'm never worried. Oh God. Well if they don't come up with a sticker on your shelf students, my Trento Beaudin yeah, but yeah, they, they'd be the ones that economist as well, just look over that mixed second every second year can didn't go up last year. And so that's The p like out of the snake Freedman, the classical economists, Allah to stuff. You want to kind of chip right down as well that you have to look, you can go a few more kind of
Speaker 1:yeah, the sheer amount of data and all where to get them, they know come together and slash thing as digital for the first year back in there in the, in a day school here. They, they still teaching at George. Yeah. I love those. Yeah. Um, well what's your reckon what[inaudible] it was like I told her what mean
Speaker 2:more tiring. Like I was with a tire in the year, but I told her I would have gotten like a bit kind of yelled at Sundance in a year in Dr Thick of and yeah, that's the only thing that surprised me because they did that. They want to work since you know, a lot of, kind of a little doubt about it with your, you're in the barn for people want to work, you don't notice it like, so you work them out long day sometimes, but you're never, you never Wilkins your cocker and adopt and you're just sort of told him that, you know, Dan to dice up kind of offense. Definitely that small attire, but I told her what the maximum much more tiring because you're doing like six days a week obviously some not to be very long and stuff.
Speaker 1:What did you say? How'd you find like where with the students, so boys and girls from all different skills and all different backgrounds. Had you found a mixed, there's it,
Speaker 2:yeah, there were there. I got to La with Irish. I find that like when they're all coming next and helping each other and telling them like why the questions you, the founders are asking them what the time was like. Yeah. I've actually sought out an Irish. Scott sends up the trail to see dot lake hurry. Yeah.
Speaker 1:The first time I he had first time I saw that in a school where they're actually out, like you know, pulling each other up rather than selfish in it for themselves. Which kind of rate rose everybody almost. Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's really, really out of there. If they're very, they're brilliant man and even all the odd, they're just across the board there. There were a go of black. Even if ever someone demons to the Ed, they might miss the notes a little the way like the two and be like here they gave up their seven else because all the stuff that's written and they'd want to, I don't know the family very good in that way. So, um, arriving especially about the art show and say be like doing the students would be ready to go to the, I should be doing ma, you know, mock or with other students and stuff. I liked all vital that like, um, now yes, they are those this year. So
Speaker 1:plans for the summer.[inaudible] do get a lot of time in the timeline that pretty theory. Yeah. Actually it's not going to do more shit. All the song. Great. Just relax[inaudible] and facet. Look at the crash courses and the rest of the air. So cheers mate.