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Forgotten Gems: Why Two Gamers Are Taking a Year Off Modern Gaming
Remember when games came complete right out of the box? When stunning single-player experiences ruled the day? When you could pick up nearly any title and be blown away by its creativity? We're taking a deliberate step back from today's gaming landscape to revisit what many consider the golden era of console gaming – the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 generation.
After finding ourselves increasingly disillusioned with modern gaming trends, we've decided to embark on a year-long journey through the seventh console generation, playing one standout game each month. We've compiled extensive lists of acclaimed titles we somehow missed the first time around – from Mass Effect to Dead Space, Sleeping Dogs to Bayonetta – alongside beloved classics we're eager to revisit like Red Dead Redemption and Burnout Paradise.
What makes this challenge particularly exciting is how accessible this generation remains today. The hardware connects seamlessly to modern displays, the games themselves cost just a few dollars each, and the experiences still hold up remarkably well. Our first monthly selection is GTA 4, a game that many consider the pinnacle of Rockstar's storytelling with its immersive Liberty City setting and nuanced narrative.
We're amazed by how many influential titles from this era we overlooked despite considering ourselves serious gamers. This journey isn't just about nostalgia—it's about experiencing these formative games that shaped what gaming would become. The seventh generation represented a perfect balance of technical capability and creative freedom, delivering expansive worlds and compelling stories without the homogeneous design that often characterizes today's AAA landscape.
Join us each month as we explore these classics! We've created a dedicated Discord channel where you can play along with us, comparing notes and experiences as we work through these defining games. Whether you're revisiting favorites or experiencing these influential titles for the first time, there's never been a better moment to rediscover what made the PS3 and Xbox 360 era so special.
hello and thanks for joining us here on the Unofficial Controller Podcast. It's me, rgt, joined by a special guest this week. Also, I believe we owed this person a show as well, because he gave all us hosts a good hide in the host league of the UCP Fantasy League. So, yeah, we had to have him on for that.
Speaker 1:But also, you might have noticed, if you're on a discord, that a few weeks ago I was discussing modern gaming, um, especially the latest machines, your xboxes, your ps5s, um, not so much a switch, but mainly those, those front two and I've just been a bit disillusioned with it, and I was thinking of coming away from modern gaming for a year, maybe hitting the 7th gen, your PS3s, your Xbox 360s. And then this person sent me a little DM and said you know what? I'd like to join you on that journey because I know this guy's a very big 7th gen fan. If you're in the Discord, you'll know this guy. He's called Fat Sangiefief, but as for for this show, we will be calling him simon and, uh, thank you very much for coming on the show today, simon thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 2:It seems like it's going to be a really exciting year because, like you say, I've got all these games sat behind me. Don't really play them as much as I'd like. Yeah, it's going to focus me, to concentrate on doing and getting through some of them yeah, and I think you know and we're also going to do, is um.
Speaker 1:The format of this basically is um. We've got a list um of games from seventh gen um mixture of 360, ps3. Um, mostly it's going to be ps3 because we're both ps. You know big fans ps3, but we have xboxes, we have xbox 360 games, so there's a splatter and an m in there. We would like um. We're going to list our games we haven't played and we would like to. We'd like to go and play through. We've also got some games we'd like to replay, so we'll have a list of those.
Speaker 1:Each We've decided on a game we're going to start for the first month, which we'll let you know at the end, and the reasons why we've picked that game. But, yeah, this is really exciting because if you've got someone to do it with, it pushes you to discuss and play the game together. Not only that, on Discord, we're going to put a little separate channel on Discord. If you want to take part with us, by all means play through. But if you'd like to chat about your experiences, come join the Discord. We'll have a little group on there.
Speaker 1:We'll probably play at 7th Gen. We'll call it 7th Gen Year seventh gen playthrough, something like that, and we'll list a game um, we'll do a checkpoint for the game where we can all play, to have a little discussion and then play on to the second or third part however, how many parts we do and that'll just be a good way of involving us all playing some of these hidden gems, some of these big hitters that none of us have played or would like to play again, and just a good experience, really. I think it's going to be fun, isn't it? Simon?
Speaker 2:It's going to be very fun. Yeah, the hardest part was picking which ones. Yeah, definitely, and we've got to whittle them down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there is a lot. We've got two big lists each and you know, people who have played through 7th Gen realise, when you look back now, especially coming from the generation we're in now, I mean, yes, there's still a lot of games. Nowadays it sounds like a spoiled gamer, but back then you were never sure of finding a heavy hitter to play, whereas I find nowadays the heavy hitters are less and you have to find the hidden gems more. But when we first discussed this and said this is what we're going to do, and then I started making a list, by the time I'd got to about the second or third page, I thought, right, I'm going to have to narrow these down a bit. I thought I'd played a lot on that generation. Turns out I hadn't.
Speaker 2:Did turned out I hadn't, did you feel like that's all? When you did your list? Uh, well, yeah, because when I first started playing it, you, you pick the console up, you get six or seven games with it, because I was late to the generation anyway, and I didn't even play those. I picked three that I really enjoyed, hammered them, and then the ps4 came along. You got that quite early in its release. So then it's on. But it was about two years ago. I thought you know what there's so much on this system I've not even looked at. Yeah, they're all like two or three quid. You know, I'm going to start picking them all up and have. And you get into that mindset where, oh, I've got this new game, stick it in, put it on for 20 minutes. Oh, that's pretty good, take it out, stick the next one in your bar. That day.
Speaker 1:Just see what that looks like. Yeah, and then on the shelf, yeah, yeah, that is there's. That's the good side and bad side to that generation. I mean me and you were talking the other week about um. You know there's very few games. I say very. There's a handful of games which we would class as expensive for the system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's not that many.
Speaker 1:No, but then the ones you'd class that you want to play as expensive are probably about the price of a modern game anyway. And also, you know I'm a collector. Everyone knows I've got from. You know I've got from ZX Spectrum right up to modern day. And you need, with these older systems, you need to set up with them as well, unless you've got a modern way to play them. But you know you need your CRTs, you need your bits and pieces, but with this 7th gen you can just plug it in your modern TV. They still look good, still sound good. You still got open world games. You still got rpgs. You got and the choice is so much there. But it it doesn't feel like it's retro yet but it's. It's priced so cheap and fairly and that's that's what I really like about it. You know, I think it's really good. Plus for the. You've got that backwards compatibility. If you've got an Xbox One, someone's got a 1X, I believe, isn't it, simon?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because my 360, the disk drive on it's dead, so I thought, rather than buy another one of them, get a 1X. Most of the stuff on there that I want to play is probably backwards compatible. I've found a couple that aren't, but most of the the stuff I only really wanted to play the exclusives. Anyway. I've got most of the third party stuff on the ps3 already, so yeah, that's pretty much where I was at with that um.
Speaker 1:I've got sort of substantial collection of both um. I think I'd mostly play ps3 on third stuff. But then if we're narrowing down to exclusives on a month, whereas an Xbox exclusive, then yeah, then I can either play it on the Series X, if it's compatible, or dig out my 360 from somewhere from storage. I should actually say, but yeah, so that's basically the plan of it. So if you fancy joining us on this journey, this 7th Gen journey, we're going to be doing it for a year.
Speaker 1:We're going to be picking one game a month, which this one we've sort of jointly done together, and then after that we'll take in turns. I reckon We'll probably discuss what ones we want to play, narrow it down. We'll say each month on the Discord what we're going to play. And if you fancy joining us on the journey, if you're already in discord, just awesome. If you're not, come join discord, unfish controller podcast, and uh yeah, and jump on with us and that'll be. That's going to be good. I'm really looking forward to this. It's a great little project, I think, and I just come about with me having a bit of a wobbler about modern generations. That was all, but I'll do what we usually do and I'm going to have to ask you, simon, what have you been playing?
Speaker 2:well, as we've been talking about, I've just recently got my One X and so I've been battering that, picked up a few exclusives and started off with Forza Horizon 3. Cannot believe I've waited until now to play the Forza Horizon games. I thought I'll just put it in see what it's like. And then the next thing I know my missus is tapping me on the shoulder saying you have to turn that down. The kids are going to bed now. So I got Rise, Son of Rome. Been playing that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, what's that? Like I haven't played that.
Speaker 2:You know what? It's simplistic, but it looks amazing to say that that was a release game. Yeah, it looks beautiful and, um, it's sort of arkham style combat, you know, with a bit of parrying in it in there, but there's some puzzle elements further on you go. Some of the boss battles are pretty tricky, but yeah, I thought it was really good.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's very long, so it's finished, but it's going to have to wait a year now yeah, I've heard a few people who have sort of gone to the Xbox late picked that up as an exclusive and everyone has sort of said, yeah, you've got to try it because it is a decent game. I'm sure I've got the game, but yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, definitely. Is there anything else you've been playing on the Xbox?
Speaker 2:GTA V, just to test the disc out, because I was annoyed at CEX and then ended up playing it for about four or five hours the other night. But I've had to take that out and say, look, slap my hand, I can't get into that right now. Not again, play for that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, we were discussing off air about this and um, that's one thing I always say with rockstar does with gta games. They're never a slow burner, you don't have to give it 10 hours to get into it. They launch you in them games in, they know what they're doing, they hook you in straight away and, like you say, you were just testing a disc and four hours has gone by and you're like easy fella gonna have to back away for this a little bit. Yeah, yeah, anything else.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't think there is. I think I tried a couple of my 360 games just to see if they were backwards compatible. So Fable Anniversary Edition, I'll go with that. That's really good, considering how simplistic it looks. It looks like a because obviously it's an original Xbox game that's been up-res. It looks it looks like a because obviously it's a an original xbox game that's been up res. So it looks like ps2 game or an xbox game, but it plays quite modern. Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:but the thing I found with that I played that, um, oh, I played that three, four years ago, I think, for the first time. A bit similar to yourselves, I had my original Xbox 360, xbox One and I had a few games and I'd been collecting the games I wanted to play, but I hadn't really dived in. I thought, right, I've always wanted to play Fable, started playing Fable, I played the original version on the OG and I just found that they wanted to give you this almost sort of medieval fantasy village and it did make you feel like you're in a medieval fantasy village. The setting was really good. They'd done really well with that and I put quite a few hours into it. I really enjoyed it. I really really enjoyed that game and I'm glad that. Well, hopefully that'll come out soon.
Speaker 2:I know xbox have got the new fable coming out and I think in the next year I think that it was gonna which hopefully won't clash with gta 6 yeah, yeah, you don't want that, um, but I even so.
Speaker 1:I know a few people complained about the trailer, um, but I thought that did have that essence, that had that little bit of humour.
Speaker 2:Yeah, was it Richard Ayoade who was in that one. Mm yeah, it did have the like you say, because I thought the voice acting, because they're taking the same recordings from the original one in the anniversary edition, I thought if I'd have played this 20 years ago, I thought this is really good. Yeah, me too, with the different regional accents and all that, and I thought they've put effort into this. You can tell that they've put effort into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'd have been all over that. That's so funny. You know chicken chaser.
Speaker 2:I think the first thing I did was grasp that blow cup. Who was chatting that up behind?
Speaker 1:the house, behind the house. Yeah, that's the first thing I did. Yeah, brilliant, yeah, yeah, I enjoyed that. That's when you go back to especially Xbox's back catalogue like that and you realise how many bangs they had as exclusives at the time, which you don't tend to see them so much now, which is a shame, but they had a good library there Especially when you go back to your original Xbox I was originally just going to buy the exclusives for that console and there's loads of exclusives for that console. They really put the effort into trying to get people over to the system and there's loads I mean, I could do a year's worth of hidden gems just from that console, because I've found so many good ones which no one talks about. You know you pick them up for a pound and you just think this is a really well-made game. You know good graphics for the time, good sound. You know something a bit different. So, yeah, yeah, it's a good system, but anything else from xbox original you've been playing or no.
Speaker 2:I think that's it. I've installed a few. I've installed gears of war 4, not tried that yet. Um, it's all jade empire from the original xbox, so that's sat on there as well. But I think if I did all this before, we'd agreed to do this. So now it's the worst possible time for me to buy it, because it's just going to be unless I'm playing a 360 game on there, it's just going to be sat collecting dust.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you never know, Maybe the next one we do, we can do it like Console Pacific, maybe do an OG Xbox player game a month for 360 or something like that. But yeah, we can, we can, we can see if next and see how well this go. But I think it's going to go well, personally. Right, I will go on to what I've been playing um what have you been playing?
Speaker 1:you've got it. Um, I mentioned last week I've been playing, or started playing, killzone Shadowfall. I fell off that quite quick it's. I said last week it's a good looking game, it plays well for what it does, the stories meh, and as I got through the game you just seem to go to an area. I mean, this sounds like a game trope anyway, and a lot of games do this, I know, but this just felt a bit like they'd really pushed the graphics on it and then sort of put the gameplay in afterwards. If that makes sense, yeah, and then sort of put the gameplay in afterwards if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:And so you just felt like you'd. After the first two missions you didn't mind, but after four or five missions it started getting a bit. Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance, but you'd get to an area you'd have a mission to say I don't know, collect this from this area, clear the enemies out, stop the alarm going off, get item. Then more enemies would come and try and stop you. Clear them. Go on to the next bit to pick something up. Clear the enemies, stop the alarm, get the item. Then more enemies would come. Clear them to escape. Go on to the. Yeah, and that I started thinking this is rinse-repeat, but just in different scenery, excuse me. So I fell off that a bit, but I still, for some reason. This is a complete turnaround for me. I know I still wanted some from first person.
Speaker 1:As people know who know me, I never used to be able to play them because of motion sickness. I've only got into them. I started, started, went back and played the older ones, which seemed to have sort of trained my brain a bit. But I still don't. I still don't know if I could play competitively online. Even when I watch videos they're still a bit. That's a bit fast when you see him whipping the camera around, it's a bit off. But, um, story mode games, I'm okay with um and I went back through halos and bits and pieces, but um, so I thought this is a game my friend played, really enjoyed, which I remembered on the ps4.
Speaker 2:Um, which is deus ex, mankind divided yeah, that's been sat on my hard drive for about eight years. They gave it away with ps plus quite a while back. That's it, yeah, and I've seen trailers of it and it's a. Is that the one where you can choose either to go in guns blazing or stealth it, or yeah, a bit of both.
Speaker 1:It works well both ways, really. Um, I'm only a couple, yeah, no, no, you're, I'm only a couple of hours in. Um. It's at the start as well, because I thought, well, I haven't played none of the other Deus Ex games. So at the start I said, would you like a recap, a 12-minute recap video? So you go, oh, okay, so I watched that and that tells you how this leads to this story In a lot of video, sort of cut scene way. So that was quite good. That gave me the stories a bit all over. I was trying to remember all, but it gives you a bit of a kick into the game.
Speaker 1:Um, same again looks very good. Um, like the world they've done. Um, this sort of dystopian world set in the future not very far in the future, which is quite it's quite amazing, but yeah, set in the future. Um, and like you go to like China and one of the cities had got so big they'd literally built a city on top of the city and things like that, and that looks really good. Graphics look good. It's got that bit of cheese to it. Do you know what? I mean? Your character's got that almost when you to it. Do you know what I mean? Your character's got that. That um, almost when you're going to let me at him kind of attitude to him which is, in a way, is quite funny. Um, but the game plays really well.
Speaker 1:There's some real nice twists to stealth mode first person stealth mode which I've um, never really seen before, um, which I quite enjoyed. Like, for instance, you press L3 to hide behind, you know, say, a box or sign or something, and then as you look round, that'll keep Mark and little Lexus round, where you can then just press a one-button press to whip to that area next, yeah, so you ain't got to run yourself in case you miss and get caught. You just go whip to that area next, so you can, yeah, you can, so you ain't got, you ain't got to run yourself in case you miss and get caught. You just go straight in that area and you can creep up on people. You do stealth kills, you can hide, you can. You've got a lot of invisibility, shield and stuff because you're you're augmented, so you're a lot of superhuman, um, but yeah, I've quite enjoyed it. You know, I played a couple hours, um hours last Sunday, as I've recorded. Yeah, I was quite enjoying that. So I'm looking forward to playing some more.
Speaker 1:Bit of a busy week so I haven't had a chance to play too much more of it, but weekend off this week so I'm hoping to get back into that some more and for a free game on there, that's one I'm glad I've tried really because you know we were discussing last week excuse me, you know premium and games pass and you know obviously a lot of people get a lot of value out of them. I struggle to get value out of them. That's probably being an older gamer and a me thing rather than a system problem. But just from having too much choice, you don't tend to, for instance, what you were saying. You bought all those games, were chucking them in for, you know, 10, 50 minutes ago and you don't tend to stick to them. But I am trying with this and so when I saw Deus Ex, I thought no, I'll download it, I'll use the system I'm paying for and see how it goes. But yeah, yeah, so far really really good.
Speaker 1:Um, played a couple more hours of xenoblade. Not much, um, not much to talk about really, because a couple hours on there is about 10 minutes on a normal game. Um, I've literally probably just walked across the map, but uh, no, um, yeah, so I'm pulling myself back into that. Um, I really must concentrate on getting that done before I do anything else, because 80 hours deep to walk away is a bit much, so I must get that done. And finally, on the Avocade Indie Heroes 4, again, there's a little game called Block'em Sock'em, which is by. I don't know if anyone who watches YouTube and gaming YouTube will know of a guy called John Hancock. Oh, yeah, okay, and this is John Hancock's game.
Speaker 2:Even though it's made on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's made it in development with some devs and that the version on the Evercase. I know he sells them for different systems NES, super Nintendo, mega Drive I think this is the. I can tell by the music sounds like the Mega Drive port and it's a basic game. There's only about 25 levels. I blitzed through it in less than an hour. But I think the way you do it is you can keep playing it to complete it and see if you can get a higher score by doing it in less moves, and basically what it is.
Speaker 1:You play as a little John Hancock and you'll run along the screen. You'll have these blocks in different areas. There'll be boost bars that slide them across and you'll have a block of, say, a red one, that will then destroy. You can only destroy red blocks with that. But what's the next blocks that hit? That will change to that color, so almost becomes. You have to work the puzzle out of getting them in as least moves as possible, as many as you can. Then you go on and then that will say your target is to only leave four. So once you get to four you then go for go for the door onto the next level.
Speaker 1:Um, brilliant little game. Um really well made um for, like, I'm pretty sure, mine. One on the other side is the um mega drive port. Um, excuse me a moment, quick drink. Um is a mega drive port and which looks really good. Uh, controls are properly tight. Really good, you think, because your, your little character's looking up. You think you'd have to keep touching the control pad, the d-pad, to get him just lined up, but it always just seems to be on the one you want. Every time. The controls are really good and that's the thing I like about it, because it is just left and right and a button to release the block and that's all you need it's like a first tetris type of thing, is it?
Speaker 1:almost like a yeah, like uh, it's literally you. You just yeah, you're just in a little room and you're clearing the colors and some of them get tricky because you'll give you like 10 moves but there's 50 to get rid of and you're thinking, oh, but then if you're left with a color, and that color of that block is is in a hidden place, you can't get to it, you've lost. You need to then do it in an order to get them and that's, yes, good little puzzles, um, but yeah, really good. I got quite addicted to that, so I've done a couple of playthroughs. I think the best score is 750 points, I think, which is probably quite bad, because I continued quite Unlimited continues on it, because that's all about your. That's designed for you to complete it, to see what score you get.
Speaker 2:So when you continue, does it reset your score?
Speaker 1:No, you just continue that level until you get it right and then you just go. But, yeah, really good, um and uh. I think probably so far out of my evercade games, that's probably one of the ones I've played the most. I think that indie heroes for some great games on there and these little indie developers, the games they're making now, uh, you know they're as good as games that were made back in the day. I know it's probably the tech's easier to make a more quality game than what the dev kits were back in the day, but I make some brilliant stuff because it's they've got so much history of video games behind them.
Speaker 2:Come up with something new in that style. Yeah, it takes a lot of effort, you know. I mean, oh, you had the boom back in the early 2000s of the indie style. Games were like some braid and fez and stuff like that and we've all these mechanics, so it's got to be even harder now yeah, yeah, definitely yeah, and um, it's.
Speaker 1:You know you're also developing for old systems, so do you release it as a download for your um, uh, what do you call them? Um, your ever cartridges, or do you ever? Do you release them as a physical for the old systems or do you release them as both you know? So it's quite a tricky thing as to where to aim your market at, you know, because some people like emulators, some play on PC, some like to download them on the Steam Deck, some like to have the original cartridges to play on the original system. So, yeah, it's tricky, but yeah, they've done a good job with that and also job with that. And also, I think, because, um, I saw john hang up going to show the other day and he was, um, where was he? I think he was at phoenix, I think, and he had a table there and he had all the cartridges out selling them. So he's got them for all the different systems.
Speaker 1:And I thought, yeah, now, well done, really good little game for something that basic, looks good, sounds good, plays really well, and that's all you can ask for from a puzzle game. Really, you tick those boxes and you're doing well, I think. But yeah, that's pretty much all I've been playing, so I think we'll get on to our list. So I'll let you go first Simon. So Simon's going to list all the games he's never played and would like to play on Gen 7. And then he's also after that he's never played and like would like to play on gen, on gen seven. And then he's also after that he's going to list games that he's either started in the past or um has played quite a way through, but basically just games he's had experience of but would like to replay. And then we'll jump over to me and I'll do the same.
Speaker 2:So I'll hand over to you for your list of games on well, I I find it hard to believe that there won't be someone here that we haven't both picked, so I'll start with the never played. I'm actually going to give myself away as a bit of a plastic gamer, because there's someone here that should be in everybody's you see mine.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is what George always says if you're a rubbish gamer, do a game and podcast, because on my list everyone's gonna be going. You do a game and podcast. You haven't played that, that, that, that, so yeah, don't worry, yeah, don't worry about that right, I'll start with me.
Speaker 2:Never played um. They're not in alphabetical order, even though it looks like they are. Batman Arkham Origins is my first one. Back to the Future. The Telltale Game, deus Ex, human Revolution, heavenly Sword, mafia 2, max Payne 3. Little Big Planet, 2. Mini Ninjas, south Park, the Stick of Truth, infamous Ratchet Clank, tools of Destruction, gears of War 2, tomb Raider 2013,. Mass Effect that's a big one. I should have that ticked off. Watch Dogs, crackdown, fallout 3, driver San Francisco, resident Evil 5, fallout 3, driver San Francisco, resident Evil 5, and 007 Legends.
Speaker 1:Mm nice.
Speaker 2:And the ones to replay are I've done a couple of hours in. I've just realized that I've put one in. We never played it. That I'm going to move over because I've actually spoke about it already. Because I've actually spoke about it already, replayed ones Bayonetta, blur, fight Night Champion, remember Me, wet Enslaved, odyssey to the West, red Dead Redemption, 50 Cent, blood and Sand, sleeping Dogs, valkyria Chronicles, the Last of Us, star Wars, force Unleashed, blazing Angels 2, fable Anniversary Edition, gta 4, heavy Rain.
Speaker 1:Burnout Paradise and Viking Battle for Asgard. Now there's a lot of games we've got similar there We've got. I was almost reading off my list. That's like no way. Yeah, so I will, I'll go. Before we go any further, I'll go through um my games I want to play and then I'll do my replay um games and and we'll go from there and then we'll we'll discuss a few of these and then then we'll go on to what we've chosen for the for the month ahead. So mine are um I've got gears of war. Um blue dragon. Forza motorsport 2. Uh, project gotham racing 3. Um I've got call of suarez. Suarez, I don't know how you pronounce it.
Speaker 2:Call of Suarez. Which one have you got, though? Is it the cartel one, or I'm trying to see them on here, because I've got both of them.
Speaker 1:Yes, the original one, the first one, I think.
Speaker 2:Bound in.
Speaker 1:Blood, yes, yeah, I think that's the first one, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Well, it's the one with the red label on the PS3 and the other one's a black label.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it must be. I've got Renaissance of Fate, alpha Protocol, dragon's Crown. I've got Dark Void, portal 2, resistance. I know people are going to be saying have you not played Resistance, launch title for the PS3? I just couldn't play First Person Shooter then. So that's hence I'd like to go through those. I know there's two and three, but played resistance, launch title for the ps3, um, I just couldn't play first person shooters then. So that's hence I'd like to go through those. But I know there's two and three, but for the, for the keeping the list reasonably shortage, I'll go with, uh, just the first one. Um. Metal gear solid 4, god of war 3, far Cry 2, deus Ex is it Human Resolve?
Speaker 2:Human Revolution.
Speaker 1:Yeah, human Revolution One I've actually put here in my played list that technically should be in to play again. So I'm technically have already started it, which is my most recent game, which is Dishonored. Ah yeah, dead Space, burnout Paradise, max Payne 3, bayonetta, castlevania, lords of Shadow, vanquish Rage, sleeping Dogs, brutal Legend, midnight Club, la probably the dub edition, I think, is probably the one to get for that. I think Crisis, the Puppeteer and Prototype For my replay games I'd like to jump back into. Oh yes, no, I have got. I think I added these ones in. Did I do Fable 2? No, I haven't done that yet. Have I? I've got Fable 2, amped 3, halo, reach, perfect, dark Zero.
Speaker 1:This is going to be a bit of a random one, but Rockstar Table Tennis this is one of the very few rockstar games I haven't played and I loved all the story with how they were trying to build a new engine and being in the studio. In the dev studios they would play table tennis competitions to wind down from development and then ended up making the new engine to play the game of Table Tennis, which is brilliant. So I thought I'd give it a go. Yeah, I think. Oh, and I had also 007 Legends and then to replay. I had Red Dead Redemption. I mean, I played that game so many times, but my wife got me the Switch port for Christmas, which I haven't started yet, and I just thought I'd love to get back into that on the PS3. La Noire, blur, ssx, driver, san Francisco Motorstorm Apocalypse and the Saboteur, which is a superb game. I'd love to play that again and I never did finish it properly. I've been looking at the Saboteur, um, which is a superb game.
Speaker 2:I'd love to play that again and I never did finish it properly I've been looking at a saboteur, is that the one that starts out in black and white and as you complete it, it goes into color yeah, setting um, you're sort of part of the resistance in in world war ii in france and that's black and white and as you free areas up, you you get the color back.
Speaker 1:Um, but very stylist, stylistic game and I think, um, I think that's ea as well. I think ea done that. Yeah, I might be wrong, but you know community corrections, if not, um, yeah, yeah, really good game that is. That's, uh, that's a really good game. So, um, I'll pick a couple here off my list and the reason I want to play them and then we'll jump back onto you and some of yours.
Speaker 1:Portal 2. Everyone talks about Portal. You know it's this masterpiece of, you know, sort of distorting time and going through and fixing this, almost like a puzzle game where you have to jump through certain walls in certain areas to, you know, travel yourself through. And I've always had it. I've just never played it. I don't know why I haven't. I don't know if there's always an excuse not to play it. I don't know what it is, but I think, well, you know that's almost a must-play. I think Portal 2, for what it is, how different it is. They've never done really anything since. I think they've done a lot of Portal 2, like Bridge Constructor, a little funny game, but they've never done anything else after that and I just thought, hmm, I really want to get into that. The Resistance games, like I said, because I just couldn't play FPS games then. So I'd love to get into those and see where it all started on the PS3.
Speaker 1:Forza Motorsport 2, for some reason I hadn't played it. I put loads of hours in the original Forza Motorsport, really enjoyed it, and it is them. Early ones is just Xbox Gran Turismo, and who doesn't like buying cars, putting big turbos in them, then blitzing everyone to grind to get more money? You know it's great fun. Hence I'd like to go jump onto that. What else have I put down here?
Speaker 1:Dead space, um, I was. I was sort of on and off with survival horror games at the time, um, and I love space stuff. So it was always weird. I never played this. And then, I think recently, with the remake coming out, ginger was talking about it on the Discord recently and I just thought do you know what I'd like to get into that? And, yes, it'd be nice to have the PS5 bought, all the glossy graphics, but let's play it where it started, let's play how it was done, you know, and it probably does look a bit ropey to the original now, but at least you can see what they were going for. Max Payne 3, another rockstar game system that I didn't get into. The Max Payne games I've never really. I've sort of dabbled a bit but I've never really followed them through. Really there's a bit of a cult following for them.
Speaker 2:Same with me. I tried the first one on PS2 and it was another one where I thought this is really good with the slow-mo stuff and the bullet time. But, like you say, it's not one that I've got. But let's say I've got Max Payne 3 sat there. I've heard it's absolutely brilliant. Yeah, I've heard it gets quite difficult in places.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think and I come back to this again, I just think that ps2, ps3 era original, xbox original xbox 360 era, um, I think we were just um spoiled for choice. There were so many games out at the time, I mean even these. These are just lists of games and this looks like we aren't gamers at all with what we've put down. But you think of the games we have played on the system. Hundreds of games, you know, and there's still bangers to be had on the system, you know. Same again, bayonetta. I didn't play Bayonetta on the PS3. I've got it, I didn't play it.
Speaker 2:I've got it on the PS3, but I'm thinking of picking it up on the 360 because apparently, it's a far better version of it. Apparently, the PS3 can struggle. I don't know if it was just a bad port or what. I have played a little bit of it and it does get a bit chaotic and you can't really tell what's going on because the frame stats drop.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I did. I picked up a couple of years ago, chaotic and you can't really tell what's going on because the frame stats drop. Yeah well, I did. Um, I picked up a couple of years ago. I picked up the double pack for the wii u, the bayonet and bayonet 2, and that's the place to play it, the wii u is it all right?
Speaker 1:pity we can't add the wii u in. Um, yeah, but that's really interesting because that reminded me recently of um, what's the pack? And slash game? Oh, stellar blade came out recently and then that suddenly got me thinking. I nearly nearly bought that and I thought, well, surely I need to play bayonetta first. I mean, that was, or even lost made of it, especially the cut scenes.
Speaker 2:It's it's very, it's mental. You know she's a witch, sort of bounty hunter type of thing, with these guns on her heels and every character's like dialed up to 11. And what I'm playing it for this is brilliant. There's some really good humour in it. That's why it's on my replay list. But I think I will pick it because it's not that expensive. So I think I'll pick it up on the 360 and see if it's any better on there yeah, that might.
Speaker 1:If we ever do play that one, it might be worth. Maybe I play it on the PS3, you play it on the 360 and we'll compare and see what the versions are like. And what else do? I have Brutal Legend. It's a bit of another one bit of a cult game of jack black and really put that down.
Speaker 2:I I played quite a bit of that earlier this year.
Speaker 1:Well, at the end of last year oh yeah, I think I remember you saying yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2:It was great, I was really enjoying it. And then there's a bit where it turns into a strategy game. I don't know if it carries on like that, but it really put me off. But that was just whether I was in the wrong mood for it or what I'm just like. This isn't what I've been playing for the last few hours and I'm like. I don't even know what I'm really doing.
Speaker 1:I find sometimes games can do that. I remember playing Nino Cooney on the PS4 I. I think it must have been the second game and that was gorgeous, really good, but it was one minute. It was a strategy tactical game, then it was an RPG, then it was a city building game, and after one your mind just gets blown because there's so many genres going on. You're just like can we just sort of narrow down back to one that was played a minute ago, please? But yeah, it can put you off for games like that. Midnight Club LA I think it's the dub edition. One is the ultimate one. But I dabbled with the Midnight Club games. I can't remember any of them. I definitely didn't play three because I was always a Need for Speed guy. I played all those, bought them on release and loved them.
Speaker 2:PS2, ps3. I played a couple of Need for Speeds, but I always went back to Burnout.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's why I put Burnout Paradise down, because I've never clicked with Burnout games. I don't know whether it's because they're not licensed cars or anything. They just never clicked with me and I think they should do, because everyone who plays loves for a drive and racing games. Everyone loves Burnout, apart from me. So I thought maybe I'm not giving it a fair crack.
Speaker 2:That's why I put Burnout. You might like Paradise, because it's the the first burnout games. It was do this race, take this many cars down? You know three laps? Uh, this is this one's more open world. So you drive location to location and it seems a bit more cohesive. I didn't like it at first, when I first played. I first played it on release. My brother-in-law bought it and because I was used to playing takedown 3 and revenge and dominator on the psp and all that lot. And then he sticks this in and I'm like this isn't burnout, get it out, get it out of the playstation.
Speaker 1:But um, but I've played it since and it is burnout, it's just a bit more to it yeah, that'd be interesting one, but I added it on so I just think I'd like to play it. And then there was games like um uh, prototype was looked interesting to me. I never jumped in. Um rage looks really good, and and I've the same again. I've had that game a while. I think it's first person but a bit of a mad sort of apocalyptic game. And then on a recent meetup with some Discord guys in Norwich, I went to the place and had a load of strategy guides. I picked up the strategy guide for Rage and sort of was flicking through it thinking I think this is a bit of me, this game, this has passed me by Rage, so I'd love to play that Same with Vanquish. Never dipped in with Vanquish.
Speaker 2:That was the last PS3 game I'd completed. Vanquish oh really, that is a load of fun. Yeah, I reckon you'd really enjoy that. Yeah, and it's not very long though. It's about five to eight hours.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, that is short. Yeah, that's not always a bad thing either.
Speaker 2:But with it being it's Platinum Games, isn't it? So the combat's tight. It's just doesn't make the story, makes no sense at all, I didn't even know where I was.
Speaker 2:It starts off with Russia attacking I think it's San Francisco or New York, and then the next thing you're on a space station in this mech suit. For some reason, the guy smokes the biggest cigarette you've ever seen in your life. It's like three times the size of his, you know. But the combat is fantastic. You can just slide in on your knees everywhere, gunning everything down. It's really good fun. I wouldn't mind if that's one you definitely wanted to play. I'd play that again tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Oh, fantastic, that'll be one for a later month, definitely. Then Far Cry 2. Never been a Far Cry player, never really got into them. But I remember Far Cry 2 because when me and my mate we used to share a place Bull Border, we used to share, share a place, board border, we share a house and, um, he'd borrowed this off our neighbor and I'd come back and just see him, um, set out in like serengeti in africa, and he was in his jeep and he had to keep stopping getting his map out, see if he's going around.
Speaker 1:It just fascinated me because I just thought this is pretty cool and I've always thought I'd like to go back and play that. And I think they had that real fire physics where you could set fire and it'd spread and and that's always interesting, I've always said I want to go back to that, I want to go back to that. Now this is ultimate time to maybe play that, because I can add it on this list. Um, and sort of force my hand a bit. So that's always interested me. Uh, anything else, uh, probably the call of juarez or whatever it's called um reminds me of a bit of a. Well, it might not be, but first person red dead. Yeah, um, and also my mate played that. He really enjoyed it, I think that starts off in the.
Speaker 2:I think it's the american civil war. I think you start off because I did. I chucked that in when I thought because, like I say a lot of these games, I've played the first 10 minutes of just to see what they're like, I'm sure you start off in the like on the battlefield. Oh, really, yeah, I think. Yeah, you pulled your.
Speaker 1:Ah right, that sounds interesting. And then other ones, a bit like I got that Renaissance of Fate. I just thought a bit of a. No one really talks about it when it comes to RPGs or JRPGs and I've had that a while and thought I've heard of it, so you mentioned it and I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1:I might be wrong. I even think of Square Enix I'm pretty sure Square Enix as well, so it must have in one of their jabbages that didn't really get spoken about, so I thought that'd be quite interesting. And then there's like dragon's crown. Just because everyone talks about dragon's crown, um, I'd love to play that and then I've got one vanilla game, isn't it, um?
Speaker 2:didn't they bring out that unicorn, that unicorn one recently? What was it called?
Speaker 1:yeah, uh, unicorn, I know what you mean. Similar sort of premise, that almost 2d side-scrolling RPG sort of thing, isn't it? So yeah, so I already fenced that. Now I've got stuff like Alpha Protocol, Dark Void, just because they've. I've always found the covers really interesting and the battle games. They look almost sci-fi, look sort of almost X-Files in some of the things they do, but I've never dipped in, and sort of almost X-Files in some of the things they do, but I've never dipped in and they're cheap. So that's probably a few of the picks off my own. Obviously, I'll just go to Sleeping Dogs.
Speaker 2:Same again, everyone's.
Speaker 1:Have you never played Sleeping Dogs? No, no, oh my word, I've got two versions of it as well. I know everyone's saying God's sake, rgtgt, what you're doing, buying these games, aren't playing them. Well, this will help me play them, hopefully. Uh, but my mate played sleeping dogs and he was just like oh, mate, you know you love gta, you're like this, it's really good, and blah blah. So, yeah, that's something. I really want to give that a chance and get stuck in and and again play out where it started, on original systems, you know um believe it or not.
Speaker 2:I've got both. Like you say've got it on the PS3. I bought it when it was cheap for the definitive edition on the PS4, and I prefer it on the PS3. I don't know why. I just feel like it plays better. It doesn't feel as weighty on the PS4. Oh really, yeah, I don't know what it is. There's just something about it. I thought this doesn't feel the same as when I played it on the PS3, and then I loaded up the PS3 again and it was like, yeah, it does feel better, but I love that game. It's great, really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's definitely one.
Speaker 2:That's another one I want to play again. So yeah, if you're dead set on playing that, definitely.
Speaker 1:Oh, fantastic, yeah, so that's probably what I'll pick out of mine. You know, as a few reasons why and why they're on there, why I haven't played them, because you probably think this list thinking how do you even talk about games, my man, jeez. But um, what about your list? There's any you know you have a chat about on there, simon, any that you've picked out, and reasons why, or well, the one ones that I really, really want to try.
Speaker 2:The first one that jumps out is Mass Effect. I've never played any of the Mass Effect games and I love my story games and I know it's. Is it like an RPG as well?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's that because it's Bioware? I think isn't it. Is it Bioware? Yeah, it's a typical Bioware game. I mean, I've never finished them and I really what I've played of them I've really enjoyed and I fell off them. I even got Mass Effect 3 for the Wii U and then that does a recall over the first two games to get you up to speed and that's really good because you have your tablet and you have all your maps and enemies on your tablet a bit like the Batman games on there and on your tablet, a bit like the Batman games on there and I never finished them. I never finished the games and it's a shame because it's something that you sort of have to clear the decks for in a Mass Effect game, because that's got to be your only game, because there's a lot of decisions. Story mode A lot of story.
Speaker 1:A lot of story. They pull you in and you're in that story.
Speaker 2:But from what I've played, often very good, very enjoyable, very good, yeah, definitely uh, another one that I'd really like to try, just because I don't do turn based games. Well, I always say that, but I struggle. I'm not a turn-based guy. And then someone will say to me do you like worms? Yeah, I love worms. Well, yeah, that's a turn-based game. Did you like hogs of war? Oh, brilliant game, turn-based game, mate. You like Hogs of War? Oh, brilliant game, turn-based game, mate. And you're like, yeah, but I don't like new turn-based games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm the same as you.
Speaker 2:I do struggle with turn-based but I want to try that South Park Sticker Truth because I thought if we're going nostalgic, what's more? 2000s and South Park, you know. So definitely want to give that a go yeah, and that's one I would as well.
Speaker 1:I haven't got it on my list. I didn't actually even think to put it on my list. I would do, because Mrs RGT is a massive South Park fan, so we could probably sit down and play for it together. That would be good fun. So that's a good call that one. Actually, simon, that's a good call that erm, let's have a look on here.
Speaker 2:Driver San Francisco I've heard that's quite interesting. I've seen a couple of videos on it, you know, like reviews and stuff, but I've never I don't think I've played a driver game since the first game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well you. I mean they'd done Driver 1, driver 2, you know brilliant games PS1. Driver 3, and then they'd done Struggled because they were trying to touch on GTA. Then Then they'd done Parallel Lines, which is just broken. The game is broken, even if you try and play it now. They went right overboard with it, spent too much budget.
Speaker 2:Is that the one which is the one where you sort of the main character jumps into different people? That's San Francisco. Is that San Francisco?
Speaker 1:Yeah, San Francisco. I bought that actually on release, and a couple of years ago I actually got the collector's edition with the car in as well in the box, because I loved that game so much. I can't remember if I had that as a hidden gem or not. I think I might have done, but anyway, it's just that they needed to change it up. So they made this game where you can literally you'll be on the freeway of all the cars. You can come out, go into anyone. So if you're chasing someone and you're trying to stop them up the road, you can come out, go into the bus driver ahead, stop that bus across the road to block him off, to come back into your car. Yeah, it's really good and my memories of it have faded a bit now. So I played it on release, which is, I don't know, 15, 16 years ago. So I would love to play that again because I remember absolutely loving that game.
Speaker 2:I remember seeing it was a little documentary about it and I heard that it's the closest thing you'll ever get to a second-person game.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because you have a first-person game, third-person first-person and third first person and third person the second person. It's one section in the game, apparently, where the police are chasing you and then you jump into the police but you're still controlling the car in front. So you're looking at yourself driving but you're the character behind, so sort of in a narrative way. It works out that you're playing in second person, even though you're not. You're still playing in third, but because it's from the cockpit of another car, and then you're playing. Yeah, and I thought that's the way the guy described it.
Speaker 1:I thought that is mad yeah, it's mad and I won't say too much, just a reason why. So I don't want to do any spoilers because I can't remember if that's declared at the start of the end, but anyway, um, it's, it's really clever how they they. They took a standard game and story with tropes and took it to this side and done it this way. Yeah, and I thought, and I thought that really stood out. I don't think driving san francisco got nowhere near the praise it should have done at the time. I thought it was brilliant. Like I said, I bought it on release and was really excited for it, and we've been very disappointed with the last couple of Driver games, but, yeah, really good, definitely worth a play.
Speaker 2:That's definitely piqued my interest and it's on both our lists, so that could be a possible one definitely.
Speaker 1:Yes, I would replay that at a heartbeat. I would definitely replay that. That's fantastic.
Speaker 2:And one more that I really, really want to play is the Back to the Future, a Telltale game.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:You know it's sat up there. I actually got that given to me from my brother-in-law. I don't think he knew how much it's worth.
Speaker 1:That's worth. That's worth. The ps3 version's worth a few pennies now I think, yeah so.
Speaker 2:But he just said, oh, I don't want this, you want it, and I went yeah, yeah, I'll have that, yeah, yeah, yeah, give it a but, um, but it's just out there. But I love the telltale games and it was like one of the first ones, weren't it before, like around the same time as yes, and I've played on on ps4.
Speaker 1:I have it on ps4. I've played the ps4 version have you got that physical yeah because that's.
Speaker 2:That's what penny as well.
Speaker 1:Now yeah, it's, yeah, um, and I'm the same as you. I like to tell tale games. I know people call them walk and sims, but they're a bit more, bit more involved than that with your puzzle solving and the quick time events. But I can still see where they get that tag um, and I used to love them because you always, you know most of them. You always get a platinum at the end as well because you just you know it's a good way of getting a platinum.
Speaker 1:The batman game is really good I've only got two platinums, and one of them's the walking dad oh well, that'll guarantee you another one, but I have played this and this is like a, a spin-off of back in the future, if you know what I mean. No, but you've got the characters in and I think they've done it really well. Um, that's a great fun game. You've got the characters, you've got doc and you've got marty and you have to try and work out ways of you know sort of getting people to do this so you could do that to then help doc out and, yeah, really good, really interesting, um, good game. Yeah, definitely, definitely one worth playing. It's a good choice, actually, because I I hadn't thought of that and I've never played a ps3 version either right.
Speaker 2:But yeah, for the never played ones, that's pretty much the ones that oh mafia 2 as well, and the max pains at max pain 3, with it being a rock star game, you know it's going to be quality.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and even now, when I see um clips of that game, I still think that looks good for that generation. I mean, you wouldn't think that was you know, people always think of that game. I still think that looks good for that generation. I mean, you wouldn't think that was you know, people always think of that generation as a very brown games. But you know, some of them, they really got their machines to sing, didn't they? And I think rockstar well, they do with anything, don't they, I think. And even now, with the you know as of record, and they knew, the second trailer for gta6 has dropped and even even now, people are just saying hang on, that's running on a standard ps5, not even a pro. And they're like, how they got them? Graphics, that looks absolutely stunning, you know. And yeah, they've always known how to push machines.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, actually get your fan to kick in on your ps5. Yeah, everybody, I know, because I don't have a ps5 yet I've not had a game that made me want to grab one. You know, possibly Spider-Man 2, but not enough to spend that much money on one, you know so. And everyone I speak to say, oh, it's quiet as a mouse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't make a sound, apart from the disc drive's noisy when you install a game for the first two or three minutes. Other than that, the actual machine. You don't hear a thing. You know it's very well designed.
Speaker 2:We'll get a bit of air blowing once that.
Speaker 1:GTA 6 is in. Get your first cut scene. You just hear it start doing the old Chinook PS4 Pro.
Speaker 2:The only game on my PS4 that that happens with is Red Dead 2. It absolutely blasts out the back with that game and I'm like it has to. It can't look like that on an 8-bit console without it.
Speaker 1:And the thing is as well, I've played a lot worse looking games than Red Dead 2 on a PS5. On a PS5, yeah, I've played a lot worse.
Speaker 2:I saw a comparison video between that and I think it was oh well, george isn't going to like this. It was between that and Star Wars Outlaws. You know just the physics and they were just doing comparison. It just outperforms it in every way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they tend to release their games pretty tight, but they know what they're doing, they know what they want and they release it. And there was even a podcast the other day talking about red dead redemption 2 and what people can do in it and someone was like you do realize how old that game is and told them and they were like what they're like?
Speaker 1:yeah, this isn't a new game this is seven years, seven years ago yeah, and they were like my god, it's like, yeah, that's they know, you know, they know what they're doing. And I played mine on a ps4 pro and I mean I thought that I mean I always kept mine clean the fans are clean a lot and that made that sound like that was going to take off. I thought this is going to blow in a minute. Do you know what I mean? But the hot air was still coming out the back, which is a good sign. And if you don't know, if it's cold air coming out the back, then that's when you ought to worry. If it's hot air, it's exhausting that hot air. That's what you want coming out the back. But yeah, so yeah, max Payne 3, I can see that being a contender as well. Any more you want to talk about, or you there, or any of the replays you want to?
Speaker 2:talk about, or uh, replays. Remember me, I've played a couple of hours of that and it's very interesting game same here now.
Speaker 1:I got recommended that by george and I've done the same thing. I picked it up, played the first couple hours and just thought this is very different. The controls were a bit, but I thought very, very different, definitely worth a revisit. That's a good call, that one.
Speaker 2:Red Dead Redemption, because I got to a certain point in that game and I got a glitch where basically my bullets weren't working. I was shooting people and they're going straight through.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 2:It was only on a. It was like it was a set piece. It wasn't like in the open world. It was where you had to chase a guy into a room. He was holding somebody hostage towards a window and you had to hit your dead eye and go in and take him out. Hit the dead eye, got the crosses up and nothing happened. He just he shot the gun and he was just still stood there. So I reloaded my save because it's quite far into it.
Speaker 2:It's a good five or six hours into it oh, how unusual, oh well, I'll go back to it eventually, because I tried it three or four times and he was doing the same thing, but um, so god knows what happened there yeah, I'd like to play red dead again.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've completed it two or three times. Me and my that's my friend's favorite game of all time. Um, we even I'm not even an online gamer at all, but we we played a lot of hours online on this, in private, where we'd go through the missions together, the online missions, and in um, in the open world, with with other people, and gang up and do things. It was we even had a friend of ours and gang up and do things. We even had a friend of ours once say can I come online with you? So my friend just made up and said well, you know, we'll have to see. You have to go for an initiation before you can join us online. He said join our server and then you can meet us down at this big fort.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, we're waiting at the fort on the cannons. He comes around the corner. You see him in the distance. Poof shot this cannon. You just see him go. Oh, you just killed me. We come back castle, we're just joking. Anyway, done this about 10 times. He's like you're just gonna kill me. When I come there's like no, no, no, come down to the castle. So anyway, eventually we let him down to the gates. He stood at the front. We said right, you've got to run around ten times. You've got to run up there, do that. You've got to go and kill this bear, come back. And then we just shot him with a cannon. But his memories like that were so good and we played hours online and then obviously, we played Undead Nightmare completed that and then we had great fun that game.
Speaker 1:So yeah, an all-time classic that I'd love to revisit, for that definitely I need, I need to finish it.
Speaker 2:It's definitely on my plate because I'd say red dead 2 is one well, is my favorite game of all time. So I need to, I need to play it. It has to be played and I keep putting it off because I know it. Is it about 30 hours long or something like that yeah and it's, it's just like well, if I start this now, I'm in.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then you know Rockstar do these things, where they'll then spin off and do Undead Nightmare and you think why are they doing a zombie? Yeah, but it works. It works so well, it's superb. The first time you see a zombie bear come out of the woods you're like what the hell? Yeah, brilliant. You know, that's when you had DLC on discs of separate games and I love that era.
Speaker 2:Well, I've got them there. I've got Red Dead, I've got Undead Nightmare, and then in the charity shop I found the Game of the Year edition with them both on there. Ooh nice, I've kept that as well.
Speaker 1:So I've got it twice, no excuse.
Speaker 2:I can. I can trade in those other two now and then I think it probably looks so nice all together on the shelf.
Speaker 1:So they're staying with it. Any others see what I?
Speaker 2:talk about, or should we go on to, yeah, um, burnout Paradise. I think you'll really enjoy that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, enjoy that yeah, I need, I need to kick up the bum to play that.
Speaker 2:Really, I think, and not say this this series could be a good way of doing that and one considering that the PS3 is my favorite system, that the PS3 is my favourite system, that's an absolute crime. That I haven't finished is the Last of Us.
Speaker 2:I've started that game so many times and it's just like and I get to a certain point and I, just Because I'm not a big stealth fan, and that is 90% of that game, and I'm like, but I need forcing to do it because I know I'll love it, because I know I'll love it, I know I'll love it.
Speaker 1:Once you played Last of Us, then you play Last of Us 2, which, as a narrative game, is probably the best written narrative of all time. The story, the way it's acted, the way you play the game, the decisions that game makes you do, is unbelievable. Neil Druckmann is an absolute master at taking you on a story, but it's not necessarily going to be the story you want. This is what it would be like if you were in this situation and he's going to show you Brilliant, get that first one played and then get in the second one. Just make sure your PS3's running well, because it's known as a PS3 killer last year. It's a bit of a yellow light of death that.
Speaker 2:I was very lucky with the system I've got now because it was a friend at work. He brought it in. He said, oh, I've brought this in for you. And it was in a box and he says it's PS3. I said, oh right, he's like, yes, he goes. It's been under my stairs and I'm like okay, and I opened it and it was brand new, absolutely brand new. I'm like are you sure you want to give me this? He goes, yeah, he goes. I got it free with my telly. He goes.
Speaker 2:About 10 years ago, he said, and we used it twice to watch two Blu-rays and then I bought a surround sound system with a Blu-ray player. He said so I just stuck it in the box. It's been under. I took it out. Honestly, it was like I was unboxing a brand new system, the pad, because he bought a Blu-ray remote with it. Yeah, so the pad was still in the cellophane, no way, still with the sticker on it, and I'm like this is brilliant and I turned it on. It's quiet as a mouse. Um, it doesn't get you that much, you know. So I think I'll be fine. I probably should get the thermal paste change because it's probably dried up a bit over the years.
Speaker 1:But maybe make sure there's plenty of air around the sides as well, because they uh, yeah, yeah, they in a little. Mine, my first one. I had two games sat on the side and they fell over. Oh, they blocked the side off and overheated, just that one little side blocked by a couple of inches. Yeah, and that killed it. But yeah, that's brilliant, find that is, and you know, that's almost like playing the games on a new system in it.
Speaker 2:So it's, you know, fantastic all I was on it, he'd download. I think he downloaded two demos because he wanted to see. You know, but you don't he. I don't know if he'd added a separate controller or whatever, because the one that he gave me was brand new in in the baggie still, that's mad, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Brilliant, but right, well, we'll get on to what we're actually. We've already chosen what we're going to play. That's our lists we're going to. We'll go through over the next 12 months and we'll pick a game each month. Like we said, hopefully we'll vary. Well, we will. We'll vary the genres up in bits and pieces and hopefully get a bit of racing in there, maybe a bit of first person, a bit of adventure. We'll try and vary that. But we said for this first month, we think our pick's going to be GTA 4. I've completed it two or three times. I don't think you've finished it. Have you, simon.
Speaker 2:No, I got so far in. I think it was. I'm trying to think where I got up to. I think it's like when you first start getting the proper missions, where you're being sent out to the suburbs to pick money up on guns and stuff like that. Yeah, I've been bowling with my cousin a few times. You know what that was about. I've been bowling with my cousin a few times.
Speaker 1:You know what that was about. Hey, Nico.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was very early on, very early on.
Speaker 1:And we've basically said, because everything's rock star at the moment, with all the hype around GTA 6 and how big GTA 5 was, and I've been thinking about GTA 4 for a while, and then when we came up with the idea of this and Simon saying he hadn't finished GTA 4, I just thought, look, gta's big at the minute. Let's get GTA 4 done. And, to be fair, one of my favorite um gta games, um that weren't till, actually george um, the lord himself of the under the control of podcast we were. We were discussing this a couple of years ago and he was quite late to get into gta5 um and he kept starting and not really going far and starting and he just said you know, the ultimate GTA game is GTA 4. It's a real lived-in city, the cars handle like they do, you know, and it's more vibrant, it's more real. And I kept thinking I don't know, I don't know. And then went back to it to play through again and thought that is, he's right, that is, it's fantastic. And how, how in depth they went with internet of the time and dating sites and pubs, and you know, and you could even go on to youtube now and type in um hidden details of gta4 and they go through little things they've done and you just think you know that's things. 90% of gamers wouldn't even notice that they they still done that to get the realism in the game. You know, and I know the story could be a bit silly, but, yeah, really good, really looking forward to playing it.
Speaker 1:There's also scope for the two DLC virtual hardware DLCs or software DLCs, I should say, with Lost and Damned and the Ballad of Gay Tony, which if you're listening and you've played those three, you know they all meet up and it's very clever what they've done with those games to meet up in the story like they did. That would be great to dip back into, but obviously we need to play the mainline game first, um. But for me, um very excited to play it. Um, can't wait to get stuck back into this. The disc is sitting there next to my PS3 now, ready to go in tonight to get that installed, so I can, I can jump on Um, so I can jump on.
Speaker 2:What about you, simon? What draws you to GTA 4? Well, I was telling you before when I was checking that GTA 5 disc out and put it in just to see if it worked, and the next thing I know I was four hours into it with the missus tapping me on the shoulder telling me that I had to shut up because the kids were going to bed. So I'm thinking, yeah, I love the GTA games. I mean the earlier ones, like you know GTA 3, san Andreas, vice City. I never completed any of those because I'd always get sidetracked, banging the cheats in, go to the nearest building and shoot as many police as I could, you know, just blowing, just get sidetracked. And that I never, I never. You know, it was a PS2 time, weren't it? So I just never got into the mission side of it. But when I did GTA V, I put that in, I completed it in one, you know, one hit put it in coming home after work, two or three hours a night, and it was the only thing I ever played.
Speaker 2:I think GTA 4, like you say, is a decent story, brilliant city, everything that I love in that type of game. It's criminal that I haven't finished it because, like I say, I've started it three or four times. Something else has always crept in, whether it be online gaming with me, mate, so we'll play a bit of rocket league tonight or something, or yeah, just get distracted and then you forget where you were. You don't know where you are in the story. Yeah, and obviously I've had different ps3s, so you save files gone and you know. So, yeah, I need to be disciplined. I need to sit down, do what I used to do in the old days, come home two or three hours a night before bed, and it'll be done in no time and I know I'll love it. I know I'll love it, can't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's yeah it's gta and I don't know what it is with um gta4. It's GTA. I don't know what it is with GTA 4. It's just got. It's just something about it. I don't know what it is, whether it's. I know they're all in depth, but they just seem to go that bit further. You know it was their first.
Speaker 2:I think the mission structures were a bit scatty in the older ones. If you know what I mean. It was just go away, nick this car. I mean it was just go away. Nick this car, bring it back, go away shoot these people. Yeah, yeah, bta4, you could notice the jump with the actual storylines yeah interconnects. You know the characters interconnecting more than they were. It was just like this group of people over here you've got to deal with. And then it was a proper, proper story yeah, it's, it's that you can tell.
Speaker 1:They went all in on it for the first game on the you know the gta game, on on on that system. They went all in and they wanted to see what they could do and and god, they done it. I remember, you know, going with my cousin to have a game of darts, ended up playing darts for ages in there and coming out absolutely hammered out of the pub and you just think, yeah, they, they really did want to see how much they could put in a game and it doesn't feel like filler. It feels like you are a eastern european who's come to america and this is all the things you do, like find a partner or try and make a name for yourself and try and earn some money and do taxi driving, it really all that all links in, and you just think there's something there of this game that stands it apart from the rest. So, yeah, I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into this but, like I say, if you listen to this and you'd like to join us on our GTA 4 playthrough, like I say, if you listen to this and you'd like to join us on our GTA 4 playthrough, like I say, you can either play it on the 360 or on the PS3. Jump on Discord.
Speaker 1:Once this is released, within the next couple of days, we'll have a new little section up there for you to come and join in on and once that section's up, I will put the chapter where we're going to play to on. I mean, I think the game's sort of 25 to 35 hours, depending on how far you go in. So I'll either do it as two stages or I'll pop it into three stages. Me and Simon will have a discussion where we're going to. You know what we'll go to and I'll put where to play up to and once we get there we can all have a chat about it, that what we're like and what we're not. Anyone gets stuck. We can help you if we've done those missions and and go from there. But yeah, if you like joining, jump on our discord and um. Yeah, it's going to be going to be a good series. This I think so. Uh, yeah, bring on gta4, I think. Um.
Speaker 1:But now moves on to I will do our awesome uh subs list, which you are part of. Uh, bits and pieces for the subscriber merch has all gone out now. Most people, as of recording, should have received theirs today. So I'm looking forward to seeing all your pictures and your t-shirts and mugs and magnets and bits and pieces. So I'll um, I'm looking forward to seeing them online and bits pieces, but they look good. We're really pleased with with how these artworks come out. So just a little something for you guys say thanks for all that you do, and I'll read those guys out now. So our subs list is as follows Seanox, our friend from Sweden, thank you very much. Yours is on the way out there. So no unroyal mail. You'll probably get that in about 2028, but it's on its way. Um. But thank you very much, um.
Speaker 1:Then we've got the one man george fan club himself. That is carlos. Thank you, carlos. Um. Then we've got the amazing firm returns awesome, as always, mate. And uh, I did see his picture already of his uh mug, so he's getting the full set there of those, but they do look good, the mugs, if I do say so myself.
Speaker 1:Then we've got the wonderful Tressels in New York. Thank you, tressels, as always. Then we've got Badabingstar. Thank you very much, mate. Looking forward to seeing you rocking around with your T-shirt on.
Speaker 1:Then we've got the awesome Digital Munkery. He's our warden of the discord. He's the competitions manager. He's uh, yeah, we just need to make him the cleaner and he does everything in ucp towers, I think. But thank you very much. Digital monkery and we've got the awesome game and gram. If you're listening, mate, check your dms. I need your address so I'll get your merch sent. I'll send you a couple of messages. Bless you. But yeah, if you get your DMs, then I'll get you bits and pieces sent.
Speaker 1:Then we've got the wonderful Bored Border who's currently sunning himself in. I think he's out in Cyprus at the minute. So, yeah, I've been walking around doing my post round while he's been out sunning himself with beer, beer, but yeah, he looks like he's having a great time blessing. But thank you, mate. Um, then, oh, I'm gonna have to do this now. We've got the amazing boba loba, so I've got to go going brand. Thank you, boba cheers, mate. Uh. Then we've got the awesome ginge, biggest guns in nottingham shire. He's, uh, he's an absolute legend. He's g ginger blessing. But yeah, he's now what did? I can't remember what he's up to now, so I'm gonna use 600 and 600 and 40, 50 platinums, I think.
Speaker 1:I think it's about 650 yeah, I mean, the man's a machine.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've played 650 games I think I've played 650 games.
Speaker 1:I think ginger's just got that concentration span. He's like if I'm playing this, I'm playing this game.
Speaker 2:So yeah, fair play 650 on the PlayStation. I know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a legend, that boy. Absolutely brilliant. Then we've got the wonderful Lord of Darkness himself, harvey Retro. If you ever want any artwork or video editing or bits and pieces done, he is your man. Thank you very much. Then we've got the wonderful Emma Sharp. Thank you, emma. As always, she's getting ready to build her new games room, so she asked for a few tips and tricks, so I'm looking forward to seeing your games room, emma. That's going to be awesome.
Speaker 1:Then we've got Greg, who is also nowhere near Berlin and also is in the crew doing Forever Skies, which is now out and you'll see on your PS5 dashboard or your Xbox dashboard. So, yeah, give them a download, give the game a review and, yeah, that's going really well, I think, at the moment. So, thank you, greg. Then we've got the wonderful Mumsy. Thank you, mumsy, as always. Then we obviously got the best ones of the lot CRGT Fan Club. I can't say thanks to all of you because you know there's like two coach loads of you so I can't name you all individually, I wish. Then we've got Pete Brocklehurst. Thank you, pete. Billy Marmite as always Love him or hate him. My good friend Simon Pryke. Thank you, simon Pryke. And then how do you want me to do this, simon?
Speaker 1:please just do it normally I'm just gonna do it normally yeah, it's a little bit sick.
Speaker 1:Come up, you know when I'm listening you don't know how bad and dirty I feel every week after doing this anyway, and it's obviously the man himself, simon fat sand geef. Thank you very much, my man. It's very much appreciated. And thank you all to our subscribers, as always, um, and we say this every week and I know you're probably bored of hearing it, but it really really does make a difference with equipment and bills and bits and pieces and keeping the lights on and enabling us to do this. Um, it is really really much appreciated. So thank you all, um, but before we go, I will just jump on to say, simon, what are you hoping to play? I know one of them.
Speaker 2:I know one of them it's the only one I'll be playing gta4. Yeah, won't be playing anything else that's what I like to hear.
Speaker 1:All in all in, yeah, um, me, um, I'll probably dip into a lot of the games I was saying to start. Um bit of deus ex, bit of block them, sock them. Little games are handy when you've just got 15 minutes, you know, before your tea's ready, or you're popping out and you have a quick puzzle game, you know. But I think Xenoblade might be taking a little bit of a backseat at the moment. While it's, yeah, definitely, for me it's going to be GTA 4. So I'm so looking forward to getting stuck back into this, so looking forward to playing the PS3, so looking forward to dusting off my Retro Fighters Defender controller, which I highly rate. They're brilliant controllers.
Speaker 2:I'm using that one. It's not a Retro Fighters, I think it's an Easy SMX.
Speaker 1:That's a nice controller though isn't it.
Speaker 2:It hasn't got any latency, considering it's through a dongle. I think it's a 2.4 gigahertz one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, same as the retrofocus ones. Yeah, they're brilliant, these third-party ones now. It used to be quite hard to get third-party ones.
Speaker 2:Proper trigger and common sticks, yeah definitely that's a way forward now.
Speaker 1:I think that's worth. If you're into that sort of seventh gen, then controllers are good for the price, um, but yeah, but I'll just say, well, thanks, simon for that um really good.
Speaker 2:Honestly it's. I need some focus because I'm hopping all over the place at the moment with my gaming. I'm not getting into any. I think I did about three hours on evil west last month, really enjoyed it, not loaded it up. Since.
Speaker 1:I need some focus to really get back into and start finishing some of these, because it's pointless having them yeah, I've been a bit the same myself, you know, and so I've really been chomped at the bit for the ps3, but something else always comes up. But now, um, even the xbox 360, you know, I've hardly turned it on. Now, now I've got them both set up, can really focus, get stuck in, you know, and and play, and a lot of say if you want to join us, come join us. If you plan xbox 360 version, even better. You know we can compare versions, you know, see if there's any differences, any. You know frame rates, bits and pieces. You know we can all chuck that in the conversation.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, the Morelam area, like I say, that'll be going up in Discord after this recording goes out within the next couple of days. So, yeah, really good. But yeah, like I say thanks for that, simon, we're going to crack on now, quickly I say quickly. We're going to install GTA 4, which will probably take about 15 hours. Then, hopefully by tomorrow we'll be playing that game. Um, but yeah, so I'll. Uh, just leave me one thing to say, which is there's nothing wrong with being given the unofficial controller. It's what you do of it that counts. See you later, simon, see ya. Outro Music.