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The depth of Liberty City makes GTA IV a masterpiece worth replaying

Unofficial Controller Season 6 Episode 269

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What makes a game truly stand the test of time? In this episode, George and RGT dive deep into the enduring appeal of Grand Theft Auto IV, a game that's potentially better than its successor in ways that matter most.

Liberty City comes alive again as RGT shares his experience revisiting Rockstar's masterpiece on PlayStation 3. Though the driving mechanics and camera initially feel jarring to modern sensibilities, they quickly transform into appreciated features that add weight and realism to the experience. What sets GTA IV apart is its immersive world—from watching Space Rangers on Niko's TV to maintaining friendships and relationships, the game creates a lived-in atmosphere that some argue even GTA V couldn't match despite its technical improvements.

The conversation shifts to George's passionate rediscovery of Lord of the Rings: Third Age on PS2, where the surround sound alone creates a stunning 360-degree soundscape that places you directly in Middle-earth. The borrowed Final Fantasy X combat system works brilliantly, and the game's seamless integration of movie footage creates an experience that still impresses today.

Along the way, the duo discuss gaming news including Sony's potential MLB The Show mobile game and rumors of Starfield coming to PlayStation 5, raising questions about Xbox's strategy of releasing former exclusives on competing platforms. Could the PS5 versions with DualSense features become definitive editions?

Whether you're a gaming historian or simply looking for forgotten classics worth revisiting, this episode highlights what truly matters in creating memorable gaming experiences. Follow us on Twitter and join our Discord community where we're playing through GTA IV together and sharing our discoveries!

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to the Unofficial Controller Podcast, your weekly gaming podcast, episode 269, with me, george and this week joined by RGT. He is retro to my ghetto. How's it going, rgt?

Speaker 2:

I'm very well. Thank you very much. How are you?

Speaker 1:

Carried in on a wicker bed, chair by you and your housemaid. Sorry, ethel, I've probably put you back out. I mean, she is 73. But ever the returning hero. You've brought me in, you've sat me down, you've mopped me brown, you've poured me a pretty stiff champagne, if I'm being honest with you, and I am ready. I've returned from promoting the unofficial controller podcast across all of well, not all of Europe, but the Netherlands, germany, luxembourg, brussels and France went down as well, as you'd imagine so you're going to do the rest next week, or?

Speaker 1:

I'll be honest with you, based on the, based on the uptake so far on continental Europe. It's been a bit loose, but you know we're well represented in Sweden, see Knox. We just need to pick it up a little bit.

Speaker 1:

You know we have a little Dutch contingent, but they've gone a bit quiet so we need them to fire up and get on the Discord. But other than that, everything is great. Those that are on the Discord know I've been a little bit poorly. I won't say 100%, but I'm at least 94%. You're back in a chair, I'm back on the show and that's, quite frankly, in this day and age, a miracle. So thank you to you and Fat Zangeef for doing the show a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1:

I've been listening to that on my travels, but I haven't got to the bit yet where you do the subscribers, because I'd love to hear Fat Zangief and I'm hoping this has happened because it's so meta Fat Zangief giving a Fat Zangief with tutelage from you about it being his first one and him being a bit nervous and his mum's maybe watching through a crack in the door what that might sound like. So I'm getting ever closer and the anticipation is killing me. I don't want to skip to it, but I'm fired up. Anyway, people came to what's colloquially known as a video game podcast, although I'm having my doubts. So just to settle things here and give people the chance to come in and feel comfortable, what have you been playing?

Speaker 2:

One game is what I've been playing.

Speaker 1:

I've been playing it a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yes, one game, and I think most people, if you're on Discord, you'll know what that is, but for those of you who aren't on Discord, this stems back to our show that we've done with Zangief aka Simon, and thank you very much for that. It was a brilliant show. We're sort of revisiting Gen 7 at the minute 360, gen 7 at the minute 360 ps3, and we're picking a game a month to play. We've got a little area chat room on discord where we've been chatting about the game, and a few people have joined us on our journey, and we started off with a gta4 which I've been playing on the playstation 3 ssd in that bad boy.

Speaker 1:

Yet ssd.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, my um, my ps3 one of many packed up, so I have borrowed a ps3 of bald border, for which I will be given back soon because I'm ordering a new ps3 and I was thinking of because you have contacts in the ps3 modding scene. So I was thinking of getting your details of your friend and sending it off and getting SSD, getting a thermal paste redone and getting some big bad boys sorted out. So I've got a bit of a beast to play on. Wow.

Speaker 1:

So you've drawn a line under PS5 gaming, deemed it too expensive, and then you're going to blow PS5, what's that? Yes, exactly. And now you're going to blow PS5, what's that? Yes, exactly. And now you're going to blow the same sort of money on a PS3 as you would on a 5 Pro.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I won't be spending, that I can assure you. I mean, I can pick up.

Speaker 1:

No, I can assure you, no, I can assure you.

Speaker 2:

So I'm going to be spending £90 on a PS3 Slim and your friend's going to charge me £700 to get a thermal paste and SSD done.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you can do the SSD yourself anyway. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Have you got the?

Speaker 1:

Super Slim coming. Is that what you've got?

Speaker 2:

No, I've always. I owe you a Slim.

Speaker 1:

What's happened here? Oh no. No, no, you don't owe me anything, You're bereft of PS3s, and I'm sat there, built out of a throne of broken ones, with the one working one on my lap. That I caress like a freshly born bear. You need it back, don't you?

Speaker 2:

It's fine, no no, I don't need it back. No, I don't need it back.

Speaker 1:

That's cool.

Speaker 2:

No, um, now it's um, I've got a breath of broken ps3s as well, um, but the last um, the last couple I've had, have been slims. I do like the slims, 500 gig slims. They seem to be the most reliable ones. And I was thinking to get another one of those ssd, that bad boy thermal. Paste it um, get it running at full chat. And um, I'd never even heard of putting an ssd in until you'd said and then I've done a bit of research on it and although the gains are small, a lot of people do recommend doing it. So I was thinking, yeah, I might do that. But yes, I've been playing um gta4, um, I'm 25, 30 hours in on mission 54, I believe. As of recording, wow, yeah, I'm a bit ahead. We've done Marcus as well. So we've done Mission 30. There's roughly 90 missions, 88 missions in the game. So we sort of broke it down into thirds, done our first stop and point at Mission 30, which was luck of the Irish, I believe, when you first.

Speaker 1:

Ooh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So we got to that point and we all done a little mini review what we thought so far. You know what we're planning on bits and pieces, and people very kindly dropped their little reviews on, and then we've now gone back to it and we're now heading to Mission 60, which is taking in the trash Roughly 60, depending on what other missions you've done, but if you've done every mission, that'll be 60.

Speaker 1:

That's the heist mission with the bin loris, is it?

Speaker 2:

I think so yes, yeah, taking in the trash, so yeah, so we get to there. So, but I'm steaming yeah, I've just done. Um, like I say, I'm on 54 because I'm steaming, I've been off this week and I took the ps3 with me, so I was, uh, sat, sat, sat, riding shotgun back at a fo in a foci with the PS3 wired up.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Now Mrs RGT holiday. Did that happen or did you?

Speaker 1:

just take it to your end location, or did you play it on the journey?

Speaker 2:

No, I just took it to my end location. I just wanted to see your face.

Speaker 1:

See, you went on holiday. You took your PS3. Yes, you Okay. See you went on holiday. You took your piercer out. Yes, you set this all up in Holiday.

Speaker 2:

Lounge Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

And you basically just sat in your pants playing piercer in a different location to your home.

Speaker 2:

No, we had a lot of days out and bits and pieces, but in the evenings Mrs RGT was in Stardew again on her Switch Lite and I was on GTA 4. In the evenings we chilled out and yeah and yeah, very good. During the day I was out hunting, sniffing out hidden gems, ready for the show.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad you said hidden gems. That's a good result for everybody.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, but anyway. So on Mission 54, my thoughts so far. When I first started playing it again, I completely forgot how different the driving was, the feel of the driving, and what I couldn't the first. Oh, definitely, I said this to and a few of the other guys who were playing give it two or three missions and then that's fine. It's actually really, really good what they've done to give that realism to the cars, and that is, I think, is straight genius.

Speaker 1:

I think it's the best opening to a GTA game ever as well, coming in on the boat. The music yeah, it's a movie. It's a movie, it's like a late 90s movie.

Speaker 2:

Hey, roman, roman, you want a gumbo? Yeah, superb. But yeah, and also I didn't like the self-centering camera that you get on PS3 and Xbox 360. When you move your right analogue it keeps resetting. Same again, two or three missions in. Don't think nothing of it, you just adjust to use it. You actually end up like now I that recentering um to help me rather than being a hindrance, so you just learn to get around. They were the two negatives to start with um, but yeah, completely over those. Um. Graphically, um, I'm still very impressed with this game. I think the detail lots. I'm playing ps3. I think most of us. One thing I'll, I'm playing.

Speaker 1:

PS3. I think most of us are on PS3. Well, one thing I would say is the SSD takes away most of the PS3s, most of the PS3 complaints that you would have. Sort of distance popping distance draw, all that sort of stuff is. I'm not saying it's gone, but it is massively reduced.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow, that would be good, and I know I think Scotty's going to start playing and he's going to play on 360, which I think the 360 had better frame rates, whereas PS3 was better resolution and colours, I think and I've played it both.

Speaker 1:

I've played it most on PS3, but I've played and finished it on both. The 360 was flawless in its execution, but still suffered with some, and this, but still suffered with some, and this is memory. Still suffered with some of that mid to long-term sort of draw distance pop in, but the textures were pretty solid on PS3.

Speaker 2:

I read a bit of review when it came out. There's a review still up online and a guy played them both simultaneously and then you know for played him for a week or for fully through and he said the 360 version just edges it for him. Um, but he said technically the resolution and colors are better on the ps3, the frame rate is better on the 360, but but Sam Hauser actually said that in-house at Rockstar they preferred the PS3 version. But I think as time's gone on, obviously frame rates are more important nowadays than I think they were then. So I think if you look back now it's probably the 360 version is probably the version of the play.

Speaker 1:

I agree with you, mate the world's got a better vibe on PS3.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, and maybe that's the colors, I don't know, but the world's got a better vibe and it just feels more kind of new yorky yeah, and I think they they put a bit more into the ps3 version, um, because they'd obviously added six axis and that at the time. So they were predominantly putting more into the ps3 version. So whether that had anything to do with that being slightly better that way, I don't know. Um, but I'll be interested to see when scott plays um to compare, see what the differences are. I think they're minor. I don't think you'd notice a lot unless you've got them side by side. But um, but yeah, really, really um, enjoying it.

Speaker 2:

Um, I thought, because I've completed it two or three times before I thought I'd be, I'd get a bit bored, old hat. But I think it's long ago. Since I've played at the missions I can vaguely remember, but not enough to be bored by them. That's not a fresh adventure again. And I've just done the. I've just done the bank heist um with the irish family and took me three or four attempts to.

Speaker 2:

That's almost like a dark souls game because it's quite tough and you have to get so far and think, ah right, don't do that this time, do this. Then you restart, go again, and but I just think, um, I can remember being wowed back in the day and I just think, coming from, we'd come from san andreas and, um, you know, we'd had the liberty city stories and Vice City stories on PS2. And then you come into this and you've got I know it's more powerful hardware obviously, but you know, you've got your mobile phone. You can go out on dates, you could meet up with your friends and go to the bar, or you can go, and see Richard's face in a show, the world feels way bigger and more alive than Five, and this is my biggest complaint.

Speaker 1:

With Five Like, wow, go got a tattoo. Yeah, great, went to the cinema. Pretty boring TV at home. The TV in Nico's room is great, you know classic space rangers and all that stuff. I can watch that for hours.

Speaker 2:

You can tell Five. They put more into this plan as three players. The zooming out, the zooming in. That was the emphasis of the game and they've done it well. Don't get me wrong. That is brilliant. That's a great time and I really enjoyed five, and five used to be one of my favourites, but it was you that kept saying four's the better game and I kept thinking I don't know, I don't know. The more I thought about it, I think you are correct and, funnily enough, there's actually a wide consensus online that four is the better game.

Speaker 1:

It took a bit of time, I think. I mean I don't want to make out that I was one of the sort of trendsetters at the start, because I'm not the coolest guy in town, I'm merely a hanger-on. But for me four always hit so nicely the intro, the setting, the, the world. The level of detail they've put into this incarnation of liberty city is phenomenal, and I don't know. There's just something likable about the character of nico, and maybe it's the fact that you just spend the whole game with him, rather than being split across the three, being forced to spend time with other people. I kind of want just one story. I know six has lent into two main protagonists, as we know so far, but predominantly seems to be they'll be split across two. And the dynamic of male and female as well. Does that just give you a player avatar to choose between? Male or female? I don't know, but I've seen some hot swaps online.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it was fake or what I don't know, but certainly a reduced amount of main characters is going to have a bigger effect on your buy-in to the individual people that you play, as that's a given right, and for me it just felt small. It was that classic rags to riches tale of gta as well. You get off the boat. You're an immigrant, you know, and that was a clever sort of kind of take from rockstar. You're from a collapsed russian state as well. You've seen some war or whatever in the bulk of it or their version of it.

Speaker 1:

You come across and I mean the main idea of the story, and this is where gta4 does fall down a little bit. The main story is this guy coming to america to start afresh in the cut scenes and all the phone conversations. He's tired of the killing. And then you go on a hundred man death rampage and it's like oh okay, I mean, how upset were you by the killing? Yeah. And then he's like, when he's fighting, he's like come on, then do-do-do-do-do, come on, he's not a man that's scared by death.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think. To me that's almost like his sort of split personality always goes back into the war. Nico, he's almost like he snaps, but he doesn't want to be that, nicoico, he wants to be. Yeah, he wants to settle down and get a girlfriend, get a job, and he just wants a new life.

Speaker 1:

But he keeps getting drawn in to the old style of life, and you know and I think maybe there's an exploration of the element of the fact that actually nico quite enjoys that. He says he wants to get away from it but he kind of knows as part of his psyche that gets off on it a little bit maybe well, well, yeah, when you go for a job and they say, are you up for this, are you up for that?

Speaker 2:

And he's like I'll do anything to earn money. You know he's almost like, yeah, I'll do that.

Speaker 1:

One of the big deciders and I'm sure you'll pass. This is quite early on. You kind of fall out with a guy that I think has been giving your cousin some grief and there a choice of whether you kill him or you don't.

Speaker 2:

Faustine, isn't it, faustine?

Speaker 1:

Faustine, yeah, and it's, and if memory I can't quite remember how it works Do you sort of pistol him down in a back alley or something?

Speaker 2:

I'm still. I've rescued Roman, but I haven't got to the bit where he's still ringing me up every now and then saying he's going to kill me. So I ain't quite got right. I think it happens like quite kind of.

Speaker 1:

If memory serves, it happens kind of fast and dirty in a back, in a back alley and it's kind of you get the choice. But when you do it it feels obviously you've killed loads of people at this point. But it feels kind of brutal and it's close up and it's mano a mano. You know.

Speaker 1:

It's a bit like oh, that feels bad, that felt bad and again, early days of rockstar making you feel feelings um, a little bit ramped down in this one. But as a start to the hd trilogy, I was so happy when you guys picked this. I'm like, I say I'm a good chunk of the way through the episode and I've listened to some of the games it discussed. Brilliant episode and although, yeah, based on the games you have actually played just so you know, your CV has been passed through to me you are overly qualified to be a podcast host.

Speaker 2:

The games that you haven't played.

Speaker 1:

I was driving down the road and I was like you haven't played that Piece of dirt? What do you mean? You haven't played that Unbelievable. How can you not't played that piece of dirt? What do you mean? You haven't played that Unbelievable.

Speaker 2:

How can he not have played? How is he? How, oh God, rgt, I was going to the wall.

Speaker 1:

But you made a really solid point because I think something you said was these are the games we haven't played and these are bangers, but we've played hundreds of other games that we've played all the way through and finished, and these are the floor sweepings for you and fat zangief. In that moment and it was like, wow, yeah, he's got a solid point there. Because I started listening off in my mind I was like, well, I played that but never finished it. I've always wanted to play spec ops and lime and I've got it.

Speaker 1:

You know, when all these games just started tumbling out my brain I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, merging the OG, xbox, merging whatever Nintendo drivel was on the scene at the time, and you've got yourself, as you both said, quite the library and that era of games as well made that transition to where they still look good now. Like you're playing GTA 4 and being wowed by it, I'm equally wowed by GTA 4 and its aesthetic and its feel and its look and its graphic, it's like, yeah, this is great, still great and in some ways, maybe more relevant than ever.

Speaker 1:

you're an immigrant coming over trying to start trying to fight against the world that maybe doesn't want to let you into it. I can say very forward thinking, very high brow of you, rgt, to pick such a, you know, a philosophical title as this.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think also because Simon's never finished it. He'd started, never finished. I've finished it two or three times.

Speaker 1:

How can Fat Zangief never mate? When Fat Zangief starts, he finishes we. When Fat Zangief starts, he finishes we. Know this at the end of the show. We know that every single time he's the climax guy.

Speaker 2:

He's the one that takes it to the finish one-handed. Anyway, I know he hasn't finished his show before.

Speaker 1:

In fact I've just done him dirty. I'd love to play it again. He takes himself to the finish line two-handed.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Because that's how you play video. Again, he takes himself to the finish line two-handed. Wow, because that's how you play video games.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, no, not at all. And also I think, like we said about the game, it's something that you can tell they wanted something special on that generation. They really went to town on it. For instance, like I said, you've got your phone, you've got you can meet up, go for drinks. Your friends ring you a message. Internet cafe.

Speaker 1:

A working internet which is like whoa, hang on a minute.

Speaker 2:

Called T and the at symbol. You know it's just a GTO vibe.

Speaker 1:

So good mate.

Speaker 2:

And then you get your decisions as well, like you have. I can't remember. His name is duane and playboy um, and playboy's obviously made all this money. He was friends with duane. Duane was in prison. He's then fleeced, obviously fleeced him and don't really want to know him, but he's been released. He didn't think he's going to be released. Now he's got nothing.

Speaker 2:

He's come out to nothing and actually turns out to be the nice guy and then that's just like play Playboy's, like, look, I'm really worried about Dwayne. You know he's losing the plot, he's going to kill us both. You're going to have to take him out. And then Dwayne phones you up and just say look, you know I need Playboy taken out, blah, blah, blah. And then that's up to you when do you go? Which one do you? And there's no right or wrong thing to do. And it's also like I was reading up on the game because I completed the Stranger Mission with Brian the drug addict. You do three or four missions with him, you bump in here and then it said Stranger Mission 2, and I thought I'd never. I can't remember what her name was. Was it Carice or something like that.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I thought well, I've never heard of her. Why have I never heard of her? Well then, Clarissa was Dwayne's ex-girlfriend that started seeing his friend while he's in prison. Well, when you go to sort her new boyfriend out, if you kill her, then these stranger missions don't come about. So you can take her boyfriend out. If you keep her alive and choose to save her, then that spawns onto the. And I just thought that's genius, that's brilliant. So then I've been Started doing the Stranger Missions for her as well, because I thought I'd try and cover those up.

Speaker 1:

Can I just say is it Brucey with the helicopters?

Speaker 2:

Brucey, yeah, so annoying isn't he Brucey? He's annoying, but I love him.

Speaker 1:

He's desperately in love, isn't he?

Speaker 2:

He's desperate, yeah, and he comes up and he goes and he starts to top off. He's trying to jab at you, jab at you and eventually you go, come at me, come at me. And you just bend his arm around. He's like oh no, please stop, stop, stop. And you're like go on, punch me, I'm absolutely ripped, punch me. You punch him in the stomach and you just hear him go. He's dropped to the floor. And the acting in this game is so good. There's no deadpan acting. There's some brilliant actors in it.

Speaker 2:

And a really nice clean step up from Sanan as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, really good. So yeah, I know it's going to be third or fourth time I've completed it, but absolutely loving it. Putting the time in, um, I'll probably be next couple of weeks, I think I'll probably be done and dusted with it, because I'm not some 25 hours in them and all that I think just feels and also rumors lots of strong rumors gathering pace now that this is looking at a re-release in between now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we were talking off-air about this, weren't we? And I said just as we selected that game. And then Simon messaged me the story and just said no way. And I was like oh my God, yep.

Speaker 1:

If they bring that back, what another great reason to play it through.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, you know it still looks good now Graphically. If they res that up and give it a really nice you know, look to it, put it on the modern consoles and people who haven't played it missed it first time around. It's a great opportunity to get stuck into that and you will not be disappointed if you're a Grand Theft Auto fan, because it's a quality game. But yeah, that's pretty much all I've been playing. So what about you, george? What have you been playing as you've been on the road? I would imagine it's been Switch and Portal, I would imagine.

Speaker 1:

Really I've been so busy pumping the show Join the Discord if you want to know what I've really been doing but it is glamorous no, not really kind of intriguing and taking place in in europe. So, yeah, I'm sure someone will find some interest in it. But in all seriousness, excuse me, I haven't had a minute to myself really, so there's been a bit. There was a little bit of on the channel tunnel. I got the switch out and did a little bit of um. F1 team manager. I mean, I've run out of money. It's a big added quest. Things are a bit desperate.

Speaker 1:

The drivers hate me, team hates me, haven't got any money for new parts. Everybody hates me, the board hate me. But this is not what I want to talk about, not at all Today. I want to major on a game. In fact, you've got your hidden gems. No, I'm not. I'm not taking that from you. But and I have talked about this before, so it doesn't really count but me and the beloved Rachel we've been playing an awful lot. Before I went away, we started playing Lord of the Rings, third Age, and I've dipped and dabbled.

Speaker 2:

Is this the one you was on about? And I've dipped and dabbled. Is this the one you were on about?

Speaker 1:

I've dipped and dabbled with this in the past and we started again together and started a playthrough. It's on PS2. I've got it wired into the surround sound. The surround sound alone is top tier. Let's just tick these things off as we go. It's dolby pro logic too, but my goodness, is it fantastic. Yes, I was in the minds of maria yesterday and I just sat and listened with my eyes closed and I think I got to over 10 minutes of of loop without hearing a repeated sound. I was like, wow, you can hear the drums in the background. You can hear individual orcs scurrying around across a 360 soundscape around you. You can hear like all sorts of weird clattering and clangs. You can hear individual orcs getting a bit closer sometimes. Now, don't get me wrong, graphically. I think at the time it was a looker, I think you could argue. Now it's still fantastic game, but sometimes it's a bit bland, you know, because of it is a PS2-era game. But when this came, out it must have looked phenomenal.

Speaker 1:

They've got Surya McKellen, aka Gandalf, reading out these lines. Now you take the role of a party that's running concurrently to the Fellowship of the Ring. You're a ranger, a dwarf, a female elf, a guy from Gondor who's looking primarily for Sean Bean whatever his name is, I forget community corrections come at me and, yeah, you follow and you kind of cross paths or just always run by. I think I said to you last time we spoke about this game, you kind of you're at the bottom of the well as the skeleton falls down when um pippin messes about with it. There's a bit.

Speaker 1:

We came through moria and then we met gandalf on the stone bridge uh, where he's fighting the balrog. Now there was a bit of a moment where we had to fight some trolls first, and then we beat those and turned around and ended up fighting the Balrog. Now there was a bit of a moment where we had to fight some trolls first, and then we beat those and turned around and ended up fighting the Balrog. Now, obviously, as a purist, I'm like well, these guys are never on the bridge. So I was kind of hoping that we would fight the trolls and as we turned around, we got the whole Gandalf. You shall not pass Like no run, the Balrog. Now I want to say that fighting that Balrog in that game, with the smoke effects billowing out around him, the grey cloud, and smoke and the flames coming.

Speaker 2:

Is it turn-based as well?

Speaker 1:

you said, it is, we'll get to. This Looks. I was like, wow, look at that Balrog. It looked like real clouds black, dark clouds coming out of him. I was like that looks phenomenal. Now the battle system is obviously other people have made this sort of comparison, but it's pretty prescient to me. They've ripped off Final Fantasy X's combat system, but that is in no way a bad thing, right, and it's cool, because you kind of go into this rotation depending on your speed about how quick you get, to have a go again in the battle. Really nicely done. Lots of tactical thinking.

Speaker 1:

It's Rachel's first JRPG-style game. She's loving it. Every now and then you get these kind of dreams from Gandalf as well that tell you where he is on the journey. He's like oh, you know, I'm trying to. I'm Gandalf the White now and I'm trying to get the riders of Rowan ready to, you know, defend Helm's Deep and I need you to go there and get these guys ready and I'm thinking, wow, are we going to be in Helm's Deep itself? It's really. I have been absolutely loving it. I've never been so excited for a 400 year old video game. But as soon as I got in I was like, right, she was sat there playing Astro Bot waiting for me to get in, and I was like, no, turn that off. We're going no, we're going back to Middle Earth. We're playing PS2, babe, this is what we're doing and is it very long game or?

Speaker 1:

um well, we're about 32 percent in and we're probably 12, 10 hours or something like that. At this point I might be a little bit over there maybe it was eight hours, but there's a yeah. You can feel that it's going to be chunky. It's going to be 20 30 hours, but it's done. Um, but yeah, we're seeing everything.

Speaker 1:

There's some bits of it they're a bit mickey mouse like every time, there was a bit like where are you going to be 20, 30 hours? But it's done. But yeah, we're seeing everything. There's some bits of it that are a bit Mickey Mouse. Like every time there was a bit like well, you're going to meet the elves and they're going to give you these weapons and these are going to be what you use. As I said to Rachel, they gave us a weapon. Then the very next thing we killed, like, let's say, a sewer rat. He had a. So you ditch that one that the elves gave you and you pick the one up that's got 0.1% more damage on it Every single corpse you rob and it's 0.1% more.

Speaker 1:

So you're always having to go into your stats and mess about, but it does make me laugh. How important is the narrative to EA and kudos to EA for putting this together, by the way, because there was also when you fight the Balrog, there's a scene where it goes from the video game graphics into a sharp cut of the movie itself. Oh, wow, and it just happened. And I didn't even think for a minute. I was like, oh, it's carried on there. I was like, hang on a minute, that just hot swapped from PS2 to movie graphics and I didn't really even question it. Now I know they kind of perfected this in Lord of the Rings, return of the King, the PS2 sort of sit-down co-op game. You know where you bash through the movie. That would hot swap and it would be close.

Speaker 1:

And they've used a similar technique here. Really really happy with it, really impressed with it, really enjoyed it. It's not overly easy, but nor is it, you know, a cake walk or or anything crazy like that, but it's not really difficult. I think we died fully twice in the time that we've played it so far. So yeah, oh and oh, mate, I've raved about the surround sound. Can I just rave about the music, because it's got the music in all the bits of the music in that you love from the movie, but in long form.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

And it's oh, I love this bit when you're fighting the orcs and it's got to take us through sounds like they rent a town on this and it takes you from the fellowship, I believe, until the end of Return of the King.

Speaker 1:

We've already had it signposted that we are off to the steward of Gondor towards the end of the game. We've already been signposted that we're going to have something to do with the Riders of Rohan in the middle and there was a bit when we were. So, gandalf told us you know Sean Bean's dead and blah, blah, blah, and it was a bit like oh crikey. And we were walking through this area and Rachel said, oh crikey, look, and there was the two stone kings with their hands up either side. So Gandalf had just told us and we'd seen like Sean Bean's boat making its way down the river. I don't know why I'm having a mental block on his name, forgive me. At least he gives people something to mention in the community corrections.

Speaker 1:

First 10 people to message in will get a game from RGT's collection.

Speaker 2:

Oh great, I haven't got a lot left after what you could give away.

Speaker 1:

Ranging between £10 and £20 PS2.

Speaker 2:

Oh, marvellous, yeah, brilliant, yeah, thanks.

Speaker 1:

First person gets a fridge magnet. Everybody else gets to just talk about how great they were and list off in ever-decreasing order. I forgot where I was going to now after that rampage. Sean Bean going down on the boat on the.

Speaker 1:

River of the Kings oh yeah, and then obviously, as we walk through, there they are and it's like, oh, that's how close we are and you keep getting these moments where you can almost smell the fellowship the main guys. We walked through this other section and there was like a wooded section and when we first walked into that area lots of grass field to the left and this wooded section I thought that looks like where they burn all those you know meats back on the menu. Boys and mate, he's like their bonds were cut. They crawled to the fangorn forest or whatever it's called, and I looked down on the ground said rachel, go over there.

Speaker 1:

Look, there's the ash from the pit where they burnt all the the rowan riders burnt all the orcs, and there's things in the grass that lead towards, uh, fangorn forest or whatever it's called, and it has like. There's lots of little bits. When you first set off, you stumble across some stone trolls that are kind of meant to nod and wink to the hobbit as well. You know where they have to entertain the guys until the sun comes up and then they get turned into stone. You're going through a wood at the beginning and you stumble across them, so there's lots of little nods for the fans.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's good, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

One of the slight annoyances I would say. Here's an annoyance You're playing as a dwarf and as you go through you pick up all these different armour bits and bobs. Now the dwarf got a new helmet that completely covers his face. Now he had one of the best faces in the game. His beard moved and everything, and he always laughed when he won. Now he's got this full-face helmet on. I don't want to downgrade the armor because you're right on the button.

Speaker 1:

You're always having to upgrade the armor because every time you face a new guy it's slightly harder than the previous one. But it's slightly harder than the previous one. But it's like robbed all the fun out of the dwarf because he just looks like Robo Dwarf. He's just got this like full face armored helmet, you can't see anything.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, other than that I don't want to beat down on it really too much because of its age. I did look at reviews at the time and I think IGN gave it an 8.5. I think other publications were giving it sort of strong sevens, 7.5, 7.7. So let's aggregate that down and knock a point off, I suppose, for age and get ourselves to an aggregate 7.2 out of 10. I would say um, and I'll stand by that. Obviously, at this point it may tail off.

Speaker 1:

Some older games did tail off towards the end rather than build to a crescendo. Maybe they ran out of ideas, maybe your steam as a player kind of slowed down a little bit, because it was like been here, done that, but not had that experience so far Enjoyed the battles, been pushed and challenged, but not too hard, while still enjoying the narrative. So, yeah, maybe this is uh, broken rachel's, because she's not, you know, a hardened gamer, she'll enjoy astro bot and she'll play the sims and and stuff like that. So to see her sort of enjoy this system, admittedly wrapped in a movie franchise that she loves, but I'm thinking maybe Persona, maybe Ni no Kuni, maybe straight to Final Fantasy X. So she's got that battle system mapped in her head.

Speaker 2:

It's opened her up to a new genre, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So anyway, with all that said and done, is it time for me to say that we've scoured the very darkest regions of the internet to bring you the latest stories first up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, there you go, that's how we do it, and professional, yeah, like a self-looping rampant rabbit pro, self-lubing rampant rabbit pro. Uh, this one comes courtesy of push square, the immortal sammy barker, aka the king of push square. If you're listening, sammy, hope you well. With this little gen sony seemingly readying mobile version of mlb the show baby sony's been extremely slow embracing mobile despite its best efforts to spin up new initiatives in the smartphone space. The company recently shut a German developer, neon Koi, before it could even ship anything, and there's even been a ton of executive turnover in its floundering PS Mobile division. But a new job listing, spied by Reddit Eager Beaver's down, a Revit, revit, revit, revit that's the Frog's version of Reddit seems to insinuate that the MLB show, one of the biggest and best PlayStation series, is getting a mobile version. The post for a senior product manager at developer San Diego Studios noticed that the candidates will partner with design, production, marketing, data and analytics and many other disciplines to drive new product. Noticed that the candidates will partner with design, production, marketing, data, analytics and many other disciplines to drive new product features and optimize existing ones to make mlb the show mobile, an amazing game. Now if you're thinking oh, hang on a minute, george. I've seen that well you might have because mlb the show and currently the 25 version is will have updated on your phone. If you've got it does have a companion app that allows you to manage your Diamond Dynasty roster while you're away from your PS5 and, obviously, scan your face in, like I have struggled to, because of my great big beak casting a shadow across my face, making me look like a tingle. Tuner piped up because he loved the Simon Weston reference, so we'll put another one in for him. He did note that you didn't get it, so that's fair enough. Responsibilities listed in the job. This can include phrases like retention and monetisation strategies All things you'd expect to read about in a modern mobile project.

Speaker 1:

It makes sense to bring the series to phones. Of course, rival franchises like EA Sports, fc, nba 2K and Madden all have their own mobile versions to replicate the presentation and feed of their console counterparts but provide more tailored on-the-go experiences. I didn't know that Madden had one. In this case, we'd expect it to be Diamond Dynasty that gets converted, allowing you to collect pairs and build your own god squads. We suspect the gameplay will be simplified to accommodate mobile, with truncated games designed to meet demands of shorter play sessions.

Speaker 1:

But considering how popular mlb the show is it's an annual bestseller in the us and a big, big, big favorite of me this seems to feel like a perfect fit for sony's stagnating mobile strategy, especially at a time when the league has been eager for the platform holder to bring the franchise to as many platforms as possible. Now, if I may, just while I've got my teeth in, this could be a great fit, because mlb is loved, obviously in the states, and to enjoy it currently you would need to have a console and be one of those gamers. But if it came to mobile to allow your dad to run his diamond dynasty team or to hit zingers on his phone when he's bored, this suddenly reaches a wider, wider, wider market than the console specific. Now this has had a broadened market because it was a sony exclusive for the longest time. Now it's on everything.

Speaker 1:

I think even Switch 2 will benefit from the latest version of MLB, as it's been skipped so far. Obviously, with the Switch 2 on the horizon, I guess it's playing catch up again straight back in with the big boys. Be interesting to see graphically how that looks and, yes, I'll buy it again on another platform? Of course I will, of course.

Speaker 2:

I will, of course I will.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you will. Absolute rogue, aren't I? But yeah, I'm very pleased to see that. I normally am anti-mobile games. But do you know what? As long as it doesn't interfere with the main full fat version, very happy with that. I guess my swing to you, rgt, because you're not really an MLB guy is have you played any of the other aforementioned sports apps like EAFC, or probably not Madden, but maybe NBA? Have you had a little sniff at any of those?

Speaker 2:

I haven't. No, I know my nephew back in the day sort of around fifa, sort of 17, 18, 19 around about those sort of games he was. I mean, he played fifa all the time on his xbox but he also had the fifa game on his phone. I think they had a couple like one which you could actually play as the game. The other one was like you just built your team, collected the cards and built your team that way, more of just a card building game and he loved them, something like that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was really into them. Me personally, I've never been one for much mobile gaming, it's not really for me. But from the other point of view I completely understand why they do it. I mean Nintendo done with you know they. I know they had not so much spin-offs but they had like, um, mario, what was it? Mario run, whatever they done. And you obviously got pokemon go and bits and pieces like that and they're popular.

Speaker 1:

Run pokemon, go um fire.

Speaker 2:

Emblem mario kart animal crossing yeah, um, so I can understand because I mean, these days everyone has a phone. You know you're hitting a market that maybe there's. There's casual gamers in there that aren't really going to go out and buy super mario kart on a on a switch or buy a switch to play it, but if it crops up on their phone for five bucks they're gonna do it. You know so, from a, from a business point of view, I completely understand why they do that. Um for me, no, it's not really for me. I've never really played them.

Speaker 2:

Um, used to dabble in the odd, just sort of mobile game. You know, your, your, your puzzle games, bits and pieces back in the day, but not really um for me, some of the companion apps. When, uh, gta5 first come out, I had the companion app on there where you could sort of look after the dog and feed the dog. Yeah, bits and pieces, and that was a novelty for a few weeks but it fell away. It didn't really use it that much. It was. It was there, you know so. But yeah, I understand, like I say, business point, I can completely understand what they're doing. That's a no-brainer really. I think, okay, yeah, is it something you'd dabble in? I mean, you're an MLB fan. Is it something you're going to look at again? Saturday of a Met's jersey?

Speaker 1:

absolutely, I would. Admittedly, like I say, I'll have the game on every platform going Xbox.

Speaker 2:

But also I mean the mobile game. This last week you being around Europe, is a prime example. I mean, if you had that on your phone, you'd probably put a few hours into that. Being the MLB fan you are, you'd probably have played that.

Speaker 1:

As long as the game wasn't offensive. Like I say, I'm a bit of a strange MLB fan. In fact, I like the pitchers' angle of the story rather than the big hits and the zingers and the home runs.

Speaker 1:

But if it was like just hitting big zingers on your phone, yeah, I'd sit in my room and do that. I mean it wasn't, I mean one room. I got lucky in the TV. It was late, don't get me wrong. But Con Air in English with Dutch subtitles, and straight into Desperado as well in English with Dutch subtitles which you know I just fell asleep to.

Speaker 1:

I enjoyed that. But in all the other rooms it was, you know, I just fell asleep to, I enjoyed that, but in all the other rooms it was, you know, full-on hurdy-gurdy Actually for a worldwide show I'm kidding Wow, we were Controversy rocks the show yet again as half the European listeners disappear, if not all of them. Apologies to every single body. I don't know why I called it that.

Speaker 1:

I meant to say Belgian Tottenham in the end, yeah, I'll answer for the crime, don't worry, or we've just gone viral. Either which way, it's a win-win. Yeah, court controversy every turn, it's the Attitude Era and that's the bottom line, because Georgie said so. So, anyway, we'll get this right. But yeah, a mobile game of that that was in my wheelhouse absolutely I can see me playing. I'm not a Clash of Clans kind of bejeweled, kind of what's it called Raid Legends no Crush, candy Crush. Dualed kind of what's it called uh raid legends no crush, candy crush, candy crush. Yeah, I'm not that kind of guy. But maybe I'd give hit zingers on my mobile.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course I would um with all that said and done, have you got any news to peruse? If you so, choose.

Speaker 2:

I certainly have. This is over on pure xbox, uh, by ben kerry um, rumor apparently xbox's starfield is moving to ps5 should be announced this year. Um, at this point it's actually somewhat of a surprise that xbox hasn't moved bethesda's starfield over to ps5 yet, given everything else that has been ported to the console, but it sounds like the plan is for that to change in the near future. According to the prominent leaker, nate the hate he does a lot of these leaks and he's normally pretty bang on this, nate the hate, you know, um, who was heavily involved in all the oblivion remaster rumors microsoft, uh, would announce starfield for ps5 in 2025. The insider doesn't say whether the actual game will launch this year, though, just that the announcement should arrive before year's end. Nate went on to say that they expect the gap between announcement and release to be minimal, so if the port is revealed sometime this year, it's likely the release will follow shortly after. This lines up with other recent xbox to ps5 ports, which have typically had a few months between announcement and launch. This is just a rumor for now, so it's best to take to take that away. Um, but given the leak is recent track record and xbox's big multi-platform push recently, this all sounds pretty likely. Um, we will get another xbox expansion alongside it in a similar vein to shattered space who knows? But the fesda is definitely still supporting its space faring rpg here in 2025.

Speaker 2:

I think we sort of said from the start this is going to come over, and we, you know, with Forza Horizon 5 coming over and Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves, I think it's you know, and also it gives them a good cash stream. You know. These things have gone straight onto Games Pass. So, like we said before, unless you're increasing your Games Pass by millions, you need to cover the cost. Well, if you then start selling them for 70 bucks a pop on your, on your rivals platform, it's a no-brainer for xbox at the minute, I think. So, yeah, I can see that coming.

Speaker 1:

I I can see it coming over. I can see that bethesda, betheda, call them what you like long-running show joke, um. And I call them what I like, um, just so you know usually different every time every time.

Speaker 1:

Um, they've gathered some goodwill off the stealth drop of oblivion, and oblivion being good, well handled package. I did expect to start to hear rumors because of how hard that hit, but I suppose you don't want to rob its oxygen. But would you Fallout 3 in Vegas? Really, that would be game changing for us to be able to bring those titles forward and then play through those and into 4.

Speaker 1:

Starfield is a no brainer. It's ready pretty much to drop. I would imagine, plus we get the expansions, might be a game of the year edition that makes its way onto PS5 and possibly Switch 2, who even knows at this point. Let's say it's current, current, current gen. There's PS5 and Xbox One, xbox Series. It is easy money. I think it's a shame that Starfield suffered on its initial launch on xbox. Now there has been some goodwill extended, not no man's sky like, of course, but some goodwill extended in terms of fixing some of the biggest gripes players have. Um, so is starfield going to end up being the best best to be played on PlayStation again? Sadly, yes, and it's almost exhausting to see Xbox commit. I don't know if it is commercial suicide, because they're obviously making money out of it, but certainly moralistic suicide in terms of the reason to own an Xbox. Unless the reason to own an Xbox is oh, I get to play all these games in my digital library for £10 a month. That argument's still strong, but it's starting to lose a lot of interest.

Speaker 2:

It's a weird situation, isn't it? Because initially the Series X, series S was a great idea. Now the Series S is the handbrake, and now they've been forced into releasing their games on their rival's platform, which actually, because of the PS5 being a standard machine to code for that's actually the better version of your own was exclusive it's. You know, this is a really weird situation.

Speaker 1:

Pro as well, and things start to get even cloudier.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, I don't know. I mean I was intrigued by Starfield, but once I saw the planet transitions people said, oh, george, it's an RPG you shouldn't be bothered about. You know planet transitions and this, that and the other. Well, I am.

Speaker 2:

I did play it when it came out. I played it on Games Pass for about 15 hours. I put in, fell off. I can understand If you're a lot of Fallout 4 fan and you like space. I mean I think you're going to have a lot of fun with this. You know you can tell it's their game.

Speaker 2:

For me it really lacked character. It really lacked it was. It's hard to explain really. I mean, for instance, going back to GTA 4, and that's a completely different game, but you can tell there was. It's got its own soul. That game. You play what they want. You know they've really put the effort into making this, this world and this character. And they want me, you know, want you to see it, but like last of us, a bit like uncharted, there's that depth in there to you, to you know, get right into that world, whereas with star it isn't that, but then that's not really what they make. But I just fell away from it. I found it a bit go there, collect that, do this, come back maybe go off there, collect that, do this. I was the world's biggest.

Speaker 1:

Bethesda fan, you know back in the day I loved a bit of Oblivion, morrowind, not necessarily much Skyrim, but Fallout New Vegas, even to a certain extent Fallout 4, but I just feel like it's ever-diminishing returns from that company, specifically Bethesda themselves, as a developer, not as a publisher. As a publisher, it's a very different story, but as a developer, sort of struggling along with Elder Scrolls, that you know when will that ever release? Who knows at this point? What platform will it release? I'm like who even knows at this point?

Speaker 1:

we saw sniffs of a trailer of the overworld, but not really um and then, obviously, starfield got hyped and you know talk of a new engine and new way of doing things and it all looked very similar, to be honest, a very similar experience to playing Outer Worlds, the game made by the yeah, I've never tried that.

Speaker 1:

It's quite fun, but again, for me, the transitions from ships to planets. You make a good point, if you like Fallout. It's just like moving to a different town, but you don't get the transition of the wasteland, you just get to watch a ship out. It's just like moving to a different town, but you don't get the transition of the wasteland, you just get to watch a ship, not even in the cut scene, a loading menu kind of transiting through space and I want to be able to walk around the ship and own it a bit more now.

Speaker 1:

I know you can do that in starfield, but when you take your ship off, you want to take off. When you're flying to space, you want to fly into space exactly, yeah, it detaches you from the experience somewhat.

Speaker 1:

Well, it did me um well saying that I absolutely loved outlaws and it's got. He's got an upgraded version of the planet to space system in starfield. Listen, if it, if it's a decent price, I'll probably get it out of pure curiosity, but to this point I've not been curious enough to download it on the xbox series x. So why would I download it on the ps5 again? Does it come down? Download it on the PS5? Again, does it come down to buying the game and owning it and give it more of a chance? Is that why so many people bounce off Starfield? Because they got it on Games Pass. It didn't tickle them under the chin after the first 30 minutes so they got rid of it. Doesn't owe them out, does it Really?

Speaker 2:

Whereas the PlayStation 5 owners are going to go.

Speaker 1:

There's Starfield. There's 70 books. Better see this through and they'll play it from start to finish Also it's weird that they're porting these games over.

Speaker 2:

And then I take I mean I haven't tried any of their games, but I take it some of these are using the dual sensors techniques, you know, with the haptics and the triggers.

Speaker 1:

I mean that seems weird. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you're almost getting a. You know, you know the proper version of the game, with haptics and bits and pieces.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean haptics, is that's the bit by the by, isn't it? You know Xbox.

Speaker 2:

It is, but it's weird that you're developing that into your game.

Speaker 1:

And it adds more granularity, I suppose, to the experience, doesn't it?

Speaker 2:

If you can, Because I mean, if you remember, when I first got the Series X, I played Forza Horizon 5, and I remember you saying to me what do you think of it? I said, oh, you can see why that's the best arcade open world game is brilliant, superb. But I just said to the controllers you know, the xbox controller aesthetically is nice, ergonomically it's a really nice shape to hold but.

Speaker 1:

I said.

Speaker 2:

Well, what it misses out on is it's just like rumble in there. It's very the triggers are very bland, it's. You know, I find it a base, it is a basic controller and I always said it could really add from having adaptive triggers and and the haptic feedback. So that really makes a difference in racing games, I find personally. Um, so whether they've, I take it, they've added those haptics into forza horizon 5 on the ps5, which almost makes it the definitive version to play, even though they're exclusive, or was at the time.

Speaker 1:

It's strange isn't it? I guess you could say it's the definitive version to play, but we've had to wait to play quite an old game now.

Speaker 2:

Yes, true.

Speaker 1:

And maybe that's the exclusivity kind of feeling that you don't get if you don't sit on the Xbox platform.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, true, that's fair enough.

Speaker 1:

Maybe in the scale of Indiana Jones you didn't sit on the Xbox platform. Yeah, true, that's fair enough. Maybe, you know, in the scale of Indiana Jones you didn't really have to wait that long at all. So where does exclusivity start and stop? I would say Indiana.

Speaker 2:

Jones, maybe their exclusives are just going to be sort of timed exclusives now.

Speaker 1:

Maybe. I think Indiana Jones probably owed them a lot of money and it probably made them wonder why they're. You sometimes look at some of these franchises and you think by the time you've paid Disney for the exorbitant license fee and the development of the game, because the development of the game, by the by, if you'd made Indiana Jones or if you'd made Rick Dangerous right and just made an absolute clone of Indiana Jones.

Speaker 2:

You know there's a throwback right. It's a flashback.

Speaker 1:

yeah there, clone of Indiana Jones. You know there's a throwback, right, it's a flashback. Yeah, there you go. Stay tuned for the next episode of Flashback. By the way, it's being penned at the moment so to start getting to a more frequent download scheme, like what you did there RGT slick little insertion of advert. A little bit like your love life. I don't like being jaded, george, it doesn't fit well, you love it. No, mate, it's not right. It's not right. You and I both know that you hung lock and lock is not too true.

Speaker 1:

So for me to say that that's uncalled for. So it's a cold winter's night as well. Yeah thanks, and you're wearing only silk boxes. I only ever do to be honest, it's less abrasive for me anyway. Yeah, I love the feel of silk, yeah because we obviously, in terms of the law, me and you share a bedroom, but separate beds a bit like her and Ernie.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we do yeah.

Speaker 1:

Fully clothed, no shenanigans. Well, we've got a T-shirt on, like Winnie the Pooh, yeah. Winnie the Pooh yeah, he only wears a t-shirt, doesn't he? So he's naked downstairs he does that's how we go to bed.

Speaker 2:

I'm Winnie, your piglet you know.

Speaker 1:

Fine, I'll be small spoon, I don't mind, I'll crawl in your crevice bit like our Mad Max cosplay bit like Master Blaster. Yeah, master Blaster, yeah, master Blaster runs a podcast.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, we digress.

Speaker 1:

Me down on my knees in the Thunderdome crying at you as you look up at me cross-eyed. I think that needs to be a UCP special at some point in time. If we ever get enough budget to do a Hollywood retelling of the UCP, it's at Thunderdome. And we are master master, scotty's, tina Turner, bobby's Mad Max, seb God knows who he is at this point because I've just named every character in the movie. He's probably leader of the feral children at the plane. M mean OG Tom. That's a blaster like a hotel.

Speaker 1:

What an interesting character. He is Best ever fancy dress costume though.

Speaker 2:

That is superb. That is superb.

Speaker 1:

I think we've maybe walked that into the ground and I've took it off on enough tangents going. I'll be interested to see the rumors. One thing once I see something solid announced, I'll start to maybe get a little bit more excited. If they've smoothed off some of the transitions in this time, that's also a, I would say, a very good thing. So I'm very interested to see the finished project, with feedback having taken in some account and effect on the overall game as well. So, yeah, interesting and also, obviously, if we're lucky enough to get it with the DLC as a Game of the Year edition, I think a lot of gamers will be happy with it.

Speaker 1:

I just don't know if it's my cup of tea anymore, having bounced off Oblivion pretty quick and I know some people like Harvey Retro, keep sending me messages of how much fun he's having in the Oblivion world and I look and think, oh yeah, that could be me, and then I just don't pick it up, which, you know, played a lot of it on 360 and PS3. So is there? Is there a bit of fade there? Maybe is it good enough to withstand fade like gta4 or red dead redemption 1? No, I don't think it's classy enough product, to be honest with you, it's a deep world and it's a massive toolbox for you to live out your medieval fantasy sims in. But in some ways maybe it was probably controversial, but JD George says these things bit of a one trick pony.

Speaker 1:

Anyway anything else? Or are we drawing a line here, cause I think we're done, aren't we? One thing I'd like to do, though, is turn to you and say obviously we've talked about a range of ways to interact with the show RGT. Why don't you list off a couple of them?

Speaker 2:

Well, you can send us a message at unofficialcontrollercom or questions at unofficialcontrollercom Instagram. We're on there.

Speaker 1:

Questions at unofficialcontrollerpodcastcom. This is why we don't get emails. Yeah, because I say it different every week.

Speaker 2:

And we've got Instagram. You can DM us on Discord as well. Jump on there. You've heard us talking about that.

Speaker 1:

We've got links that we need to boost. So actually, your call to arms this week, if you're listening and you're in the cheap seats and you don't contribute in any way, that's totally cool. But why don't you drop us a follow on X?

Speaker 2:

yeah, drop us a follow absolutely so.

Speaker 1:

If you're going to do anything this week, if you've caught to this point, you've gone. I really enjoy these boys. I'm going to go and get in the back catalogue, but how can I make it right by them? Do they want money? You can give us that, but not necessarily. Our call to arms this week is you go Twitter in your followers. End of story, and we can't wait to get to know you on there.

Speaker 2:

Yep, brilliant. Also got YouTube as well, where you can catch the video of the shows.

Speaker 1:

Grotesque, and I think our faces prove why, that we are an audio show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're definitely face of radio. Well, me especially.

Speaker 1:

I look like a three-month-old little ready meal and you look like the accompanying Keeman arm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'll take that. But yeah, you can jump on YouTube, watch us on there, give us a sub, give us a like, give us a comment if you want. But yeah, there's various ways to join in with us, Like I say, Discord Also, if you are a regular listener, if you could despair two minutes, give us a review on your podcast supply we're overloading them.

Speaker 1:

We're overloading them. If you ask them to do three things, they'll do none. So what do you want them to do? Follow us on.

Speaker 2:

Twitter. Leave us a review. There we go.

Speaker 1:

Let's build the. Yeah, firm Returns wants us to build the Twitter up. He's like the. He's the Mr Wildman producing in the background at the moment. He's pulling the strings and he wants the Twitter big and he wants a Twitter big. He wants a Twitter massive. He's the. He's. Firm Returns has bought the rights to Zootomax Media because he's a bit of a. I mean, if you want to make money out there in the stock market and not work, if you want to make money from investments, you need to follow Firm Returns on Twitter. He's the best, most intelligent man. He's handsome, he likes video games and can also make you a fat book. I don't think you need any more than that, so get him followed on that to do it immediately.

Speaker 1:

It's your first step to becoming a millionaire and it also means that his share buying of Zootomax Media, which is also secured in the rights to Eldorado Birds of the Feather and the UCP. I've got to say fair play to him. I hope he's as kind to us as he is to Linda Robson and Pauline Quirk, because you know they've got a few health issues. I see that Linda Robson's she's promoting medical cannabis. Pauline Quirks, I think, maybe had a stroke. Bless her. So you know he's been very kind. He's actually only, I would say, firm return, probably one of the most generous investors going, because he's allowed them to keep 0.001% of their royalties.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow.

Speaker 1:

And he sent Pauline some wet wipes.

Speaker 2:

Nice, that's good of him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's not a legend, you know he's not here for a good time. No, he is here for a good time, and a long time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, we're honoured to have him we are his loyal servants, admittedly.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't want to talk about it. That's what HR's for. So when? Scott is next in, I'll probably ought to have a sit down with him really although then he's going to speak to firm returns as the MD President. El Presidente although then he's going to speak to Firm Returns as the MD President. El Presidente, I can't see that ending well for me no, I'm thinking that as well delete this Phil, delete this monologue anyway, Firm Returns resides on the Discord and he pays, which is very generous of him.

Speaker 1:

Sin is he's the owner, but he pays on a monthly basis. Much like you can RGT. There's tears here Now. Now there's tears not streaming down my face. We're talking incremental levels, of increment upwards from wow, what a sentence.

Speaker 2:

I realized the levels of increment Upwards, upwards, superb.

Speaker 1:

Have you seen that rally driving clip? Because one of the things I was laughing about while I was away is I can't remember. It's Marcus Sumner's Swedish rally driver where he pulls over Gronholm was it.

Speaker 1:

Maybe, yeah, marcus Gronholm, the camera crew rush over to the side of it and they say what's wrong? Oh God, we have to stop. And he's like oh why? There's a stone straight up through the seat, straight into Timo's asshole, and he does an absolutely straight pan. He's like Timo, timo, timo's hurt timo. We pull over stone straight up through the seats, straight in timo's asshole. Um, absolutely genius. So, yeah, type in timo's asshole and go have a look at that on there.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how we got to this, but anyway no talk me through the tears um, well, we, we changed the tiers, didn't we? Um a little while ago, basically so that, um, you didn't lose out on anything that was you know online, anything like that. So, basically, if we listened right yeah, so three dollars you get the Unglorious Chat, which is a little section on there for the tier people on Discord. Then you get the Zoom meetup that we do, dude why do I look like the demon freaking headmaster?

Speaker 1:

Jesus wet, I'm old, Someone. We've lost half the young listeners. Someone fetched me a coffin.

Speaker 2:

You're not old. Look how old I look. You look like your young whippersnapper with your baseball jersey and you're out on back to front.

Speaker 1:

You just come back from doing a paper round. Underneath my teeth are gone. I'm bald, I'm ancient. My belly is ever enlarging. I look like a weeble wobble but we don't fall down. You're ever slimming. Got the turkey teeth, got the hair transplant looking great.

Speaker 2:

I don't know about that. I'm not ever slimming. I'm going the other way.

Speaker 1:

No, you're not?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not sure about that, but yes, anyway. So we've got, I would. You don't mean it?

Speaker 1:

One can of Wingman, which we know from the evidence of what one can of Wingman did to me on air. What episode was that? The day the PG era died.

Speaker 2:

I think it was the one, and then I got ill for a week. You had one can of Wingman Absolutely destroyed you.

Speaker 1:

I said the most implorable things you could possibly imagine as well.

Speaker 2:

And the only reason you got one is because you saw that I had a brew dog and you were like, oh, I've got one of them somewhere, I might have one with you.

Speaker 1:

I want to be like you, and then instantly regretted it as soon as that first wet hit my lips. I was talking absolute drivel in the first two seconds. Nothing unusual for you there, friend, anyway.

Speaker 2:

Just ended up with me apologising.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, one of the consolidated moments of being on this show is apologising for one of your co-host's behaviours.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, that's part of it, I suppose.

Speaker 1:

So give me the tiers, you sexy bitch.

Speaker 2:

Right, so we do the $3 tier, which is the Unglorious Chat. You get the monthly Zoom meeting. I can't remember myself now.

Speaker 1:

Quarterly quarterly quarterly Zoom meeting.

Speaker 2:

Sorry. Yes, quarterly Zoom meeting, not monthly. I struggle to put the quarterly one out, let alone monthly.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say slow down RGT. We're trying to put out six shows.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god and if you want to know what the Zoom meeting is, it's basically one of us will host it, we'll give you a Zoom call. It's normally between sort of five and ten of us on there and we just have a meet up. We chat games, chat pickups, chat movies, movies, chat anything really.

Speaker 1:

That will end up coming out as a show I believe we've committed to as well, yeah, it comes out as a show. Bonus show.

Speaker 2:

Bonus show. So definitely worth it. And then, so yeah, you get the quarterly Zoom meetup, you get the unglorious chat and you get your name read out on every show. When you go to $5, you get all three of those plus. You get a bit of yearly art merch, for instance.

Speaker 1:

I could probably show you. Yes, please, mummy.

Speaker 2:

I have one here for the visual viewers.

Speaker 1:

So we have our little fridge magnets, which is our new artwork Made by the Wooden Postcard Company, a prestigious company from Norwich which make for some of the biggest and best museums around the world. Not Norwich, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just completely made that up. They're not Norwich.

Speaker 1:

Everything else was true. They were just like. I got them, 50 miles away from where they were 35.

Speaker 2:

That's pretty close actually, that's actually damn close yeah, it's about 35 miles.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so you get 15 as the crow flies, possibly 10.

Speaker 2:

I don't know about that. So then you get $5, the same as $3 tiers. You get your name read out in every show, you get the unglorious chat and you get the quarterly zoom meetup, plus you get yearly art merch on your $ show. You get the um unglorious chat and you get the um quarterly zoom meetup, plus you get yearly art merch on your eight dollars. You get all of those four plus you get a mug with the artwork on, and if you go up to the ten dollar tier, you get all those, but you get the. You get the magnet, the mug and you get a t-shirt which is has all gone out Blankety-blank, so everyone's had theirs this year, blankety-blank.

Speaker 2:

Everyone seems to be enjoying it Blankety-blank, blankety-blank, blankety-blank. Checkbook and pen Blankety-blank. So yeah, they're really good, they're nice. I mean, everyone loved the mugs. This year We've done a bit of an orange theme on the mugs, on the inside of the mugs and the fridge magnets. The T-shirts look really good so, and we gave people the choice of what colours they wanted the black shirt or the white shirt and some had black, some had white, and this week I'm actually sending one out to Brazil, so there was a T-shirt.

Speaker 1:

Blank, innie blank, blank, innie blank, Blank, innie blank. Yeah, we must wait. Brazil innie blank. What's all of this? Someone's subscribed from Brazil.

Speaker 2:

I said I'll give him a shout out. When he gives me a picture of him on Sao Paulo Beach with his T-shirt UCP and holding his fridge magnet, I'll give him a shout out on the show. So yes, yes, we have got a listener in Brazil.

Speaker 1:

Is this a new sub?

Speaker 2:

No, he's not a sub. He wanted some of our merch.

Speaker 1:

He's show curious.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he's been listening to the show.

Speaker 1:

He's circling around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So if you're listening, you know who you are. I'll give you a big shout out as soon as you get that picture of you on the beach with that UCP on in.

Speaker 1:

Brazil, bill the hype, ayrton Senna's love child. Here he is the most handsome man in Brazil, boom in the T-shirt, drinking a Brazilian beverage a cerveza out of a mug UCP mug on Sao Paulo beach. Wow, no Coco Cabana, so that's been sent this week Down at the Copacabana. He's got a mug in his hand and a UCTP thing wrapped round his gland.

Speaker 2:

He's on the Copa UCTP. I'd send him a tent.

Speaker 1:

Wrapped round his gland. He's on the Copa Copacabana. What would you call?

Speaker 2:

it Anyway, so.

Speaker 1:

That's him gone. You see Pete's T-shirt now being used as a mop head.

Speaker 2:

I've worked hard for that, well done. That's how it destroyed, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Mid-section kick stunner. That's how we do it in the attitude here In your face.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, if you are interested, check out the tiers. You'll see it on your podcast provider. Support the show. Click on there and you'll see the bits on there Excellent Well. If you never need to know what the tiers are. Again, just like I say, either email us or message us, dm us and I can send you the tiers if you'd like to know so, and they get access to those at the link at the bottom of every single podcast there we go fantastic couldn't be easier.

Speaker 1:

And remember, if you need to, if you're in the cheap seats, just drop us a follow on twitter, that's all it's going to cost you. And speak up loudly enough and be from somewhere bizarre and demand the t-shirt, and you know what. You get your name read out anyway. Now rgt that said, those people that have chosen to contribute to the show this far I call them your list of victims, seeing as if you go back to season one, you were a manacled serial killer that was policed by the immortal Ross Kemp himself. We blew the budget in season one. Don't think the show's ever recovered since, but you know we did what we needed to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Do you want to start the list of victims, or do you want?

Speaker 2:

me to? I certainly can. So victim number one is Seanox, our friend from Sweden. Thank you very much, Seanox.

Speaker 1:

Did he get his T-shirt?

Speaker 2:

He's got his mug and that he was the next tier down, I believe, so he was mugging that sort of stuff, well as long as he's got something to drink out of and stick in his fridge.

Speaker 1:

Okay, which means I get the one-man George fan club, the immortal, handsome, intelligent, well endowed, well educated, sophisticated man of class, elegance and taste, a man with an exquisite palette, both audibly, visually and orally. Yeah, I went there, sunby. Yeah, absolutely fantastic palette. Great choice of host to be the one-man fan club for the Immortal, slightly Hispanic sounding Carlos.

Speaker 2:

What a legend Next we have.

Speaker 1:

He's got bulletproof nipples.

Speaker 2:

I did hear that. I did hear that it can take a bullet anywhere, as long as it's straight on the nips.

Speaker 1:

Anywhere else it's death On the nips. Ricochet off probably kills some innocent. Have you frozen no?

Speaker 2:

No, I was just for the third time going to try and say firm returns, but you're going to keep interrupting aren't you?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, he got his advert as well, didn't he? Don't forget.

Speaker 1:

If you want to lift your life out the gutter. If you don't want to wake up and do the 9-5 grind anymore. If you don't want to wake up and do the 9 to 5 grind anymore, if you're sick of it, want to roll around on a lilo in an all inclusive resort in Bognor Regis? Somewhere he's your man. Up next. Trestles, new York got to say thank you to those guys who were our food providers in season 2 when me and Bobby or I joined Bobby in New York.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, seems years ago now doesn't it long time in season two when me and Bobby or I joined Bobby in New York? Yeah, seems years ago now, doesn't it? Long-time supporters? Trip your dream. Next up, we have the wonderful Bada.

Speaker 1:

Binkster. Everybody stand up, sir, everybody sit down. Stand me bane Bada Binkster. Stand me bane Bada Binkster.

Speaker 2:

Tante Bellicose. I think he was a bit sad because his team didn't win the league. He's cleaner. He's cleaner, His team Inter.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that makes more sense. What happened to his cleaner?

Speaker 2:

Nothing happened to his cleaner not as far as I know, but Inter didn't win the league, so never mind Badder Beans, there's always next year. Mate, don't worry, you've got Champions League.

Speaker 1:

Ten-a-penny cleaners. I get Tingle Tuna Up next, the mighty mastodon of Lincolnshire. Born-and-bred gaming gurus, he now lives masquerading in another county. Just to raise up the local postcode profile a little bit, trying to just improve their property prices, If they can say. Tingle Tuna walked down this street playing his DS in his thong, looking sexy. All of a sudden your house is worth 200 grand instead of 100. Boom, job done. Yeah, lots of people now are sort of like sought after by celebrities.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. He's also had a really positive effect on Stapleford.

Speaker 2:

Oh wow Cool, Bless him.

Speaker 1:

He's a pioneer.

Speaker 2:

Next up we have the amazing Digital Monkery, our policeman of the Discord, the deputy dog of the Discord.

Speaker 1:

The deputy dog of the.

Speaker 2:

Discord, the deputy dog, if you think about swearing.

Speaker 1:

He's already blocked you.

Speaker 2:

For we've even typed it, Type F you're out.

Speaker 1:

No, just you think of him. You're like hang on. Why can't I get on the Discord Boom? Thought police has had you.

Speaker 2:

But also does our challenge accepted and bits and pieces for that. So thank you very much. Digital Mugry Always appreciated, as always.

Speaker 1:

I'm still living on a hair follicle on his face.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure you are, I see what he sees Up next.

Speaker 1:

The Gaming Gram. Yeah, that's right. You normally walk into a pub Well, I don't. But some of the bigger boys walk into the pub and they're after a gram of this and a gram of that. But I tell you what I bet they can't afford a gaming gram. Our man Bang, he's got a bulletproof abs has he. If he breeded with the firm returns?

Speaker 2:

No, Carlos.

Speaker 1:

Carlos, they would be 72% bulletproof.

Speaker 2:

That'd almost be like a tiny little Robocop.

Speaker 1:

It would. I'm sure we can make other people bulletproof as we go along. So by the time we finish this almost Nazi-like breeding program, we're going to have the invincible.

Speaker 2:

I was worrying of that.

Speaker 1:

It's happening okay.

Speaker 2:

I've sort of got that vibe. Next up we have the awesome Bald Border. Thank you very much. And he's the Atari man at the moment. He's gone a bit Atari-mad collecting at the moment, so he's just picked up an authentic copy of Hero for his Atari 2600, which is quite an expensive game, but he's pulled the plug on it and got it.

Speaker 1:

Are you telling me that he's been holding out for that, or was it a?

Speaker 2:

He was a big Atari 2600 player back in the day when the console was new.

Speaker 1:

What game did he get?

Speaker 2:

Well, first of all he bought that new Atari 7800 Plus console, which is actually a really decent game.

Speaker 1:

What game did you say? He picked up though.

Speaker 2:

He's picked up Hero.

Speaker 1:

Was he holding out for that? Do you think what?

Speaker 2:

holding out for a Hero. I think he was, and he held out long enough until he found his Hero and he got it. But yeah, it took me twice to get that.

Speaker 1:

The second time round was better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Phil, cue the track over that.

Speaker 1:

Hang on a minute because I was on Instagram today. This is the next person. We got Boba, but I don't know what's going on because I have absolutely no idea what reality.

Speaker 2:

I know exactly what you're.

Speaker 1:

I have no idea what reality I've woken up in when Boba, aka our version of Boba Loba, aka our version of Boba Fett, has gone to MCM Comic Con with a hot-ass woman dressed as Boba. Hang on a minute, I do believe they're in some sort of so Boba, I don't quite know how two Bobas go together. Boba, I don't quite know how two Bobas go together, but stand by Comic-Con hotel room because there's going to be a Mandalorian loving.

Speaker 2:

It's also going to be good when someone asks him his name and they're walking together. What's your name, boba? Well, no, surely she's Boba.

Speaker 1:

Mr and Mrs Boba. Maybe this is the. Is this the official or is this the marriage?

Speaker 2:

Hmm, hmm, mr and Mrs Boba, maybe this is the Is this the official or is? This the marriage. Ooh Ooh.

Speaker 1:

Although I am more interested in seeing OG Boba Boba Loba in the costume that his fair lady was wearing. Wow, that's what I would go to Comic-Con for.

Speaker 2:

I did wonder if you were going down that route.

Speaker 1:

I'm. I drove my bus straight down it. It's the bus route, so I took it.

Speaker 2:

I suppose also we've got to go going boba steady that's not what we normally say no is it?

Speaker 1:

no what do we know? What do you? What have you chosen to say now?

Speaker 2:

who we got next. Uh, we have the amazing ginge. Thank you, ginge, as always, your red-headed stepson, and uh, long time support of show.

Speaker 1:

He's got bulletproof fingernails.

Speaker 2:

Has he that's from?

Speaker 1:

all that hard work and graph he did and Bo's got bulletproof genitalia.

Speaker 2:

Has he.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Next, I get part of your retro. He's got bulletproof eyebrows.

Speaker 2:

Has he Eyebrows? Wow, Bulletproof eyebrows Wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so this UCP Ultimate List is like 62% bulletproof now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, we're getting there, aren't we? I'm a bit worried about the last one. It's next. Yes, yeah, thank you, harvey. Retro as always. Next, we've got the wonderful Emma Sharp.

Speaker 1:

What's bulletproof on Emma?

Speaker 2:

Her feet.

Speaker 1:

It's unusual for you to pick a woman's feet. Be bulletproof.

Speaker 2:

Good. Thank you, Emma.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, emma, as well for your representation on the World Tour. Thank you for joining me in Holland. It was great to get to the Expo Centre. You were the only person that joined me, but you know, we made a good day of it. Nowhere near Berlin, I'll tell you where. He's nowhere near nowhere near impervious to bullets, but he has got bulletproof rear calves.

Speaker 2:

Has he? Yes, so if he's running away and they're shooting at him, yeah, he's the only.

Speaker 1:

UCP listener to evolve with rearward facing bulletproof armor. Wow, so we're definitely going to have to get him in the gene pool.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, get the bulletproof calves, followed by zigzag, and he's, he's, yeah, he ain't going to get to get him in the gene pool. Get the bulletproof calves, followed by zigzag, and he ain't going to get hit a lot.

Speaker 1:

is he Going brown?

Speaker 2:

Next up we have Mumsy. Thank you, Mumsy, as always.

Speaker 1:

Up next the most deplorable, yet beautiful, yet ill-advised, yet somehow root for the underdog type club that's packed with more members than an Iceland, that's being opened by Caricatona and they're giving away free Cerely strudel it's probably from the queue yeah, there's at least 10 people in there at least, and who in there At least?

Speaker 2:

Who are they? Then you announced them, yeah.

Speaker 1:

The RGT Fan Club.

Speaker 2:

There we go. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

I thought you wanted me to do individuals. I'm going to be struggling here, mate.

Speaker 2:

What are you trying to say? It's a lie.

Speaker 1:

Not at all, but it's got less legitimacy than mine Because mine wears its harness sleeve. It's one man With bulletproof nipples.

Speaker 2:

Next up, we've got Pete Brocklehurst Some guy you want to get behind in a gunfight. Your answer's gone up significantly. Yeah, I think Pete Brocklehurst, he's probably got a bulletproof head.

Speaker 1:

No one's dying on our watch If Pete Brocklehurst he's probably got a bulletproof head. No one's dying on our watch If Pete Brocklehurst turns up. Yeah, he's a bit of a Frankenstein-type character really. So yeah, you step on his foot hard enough and the top of his head lifts up like a flip-top bin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he is. Yeah, he's almost like a tough and rough version of Crichton.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we used to press on his foot and stash our Tippex in his head during class.

Speaker 2:

Good idea, good idea.

Speaker 1:

Good vintage as well. It was like a 1992 bottle of Tippex. It was strong.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that was the best. That was the best.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've still got one now, but I think it's worth more unopened.

Speaker 2:

That was a head spinner. Yeah, definitely, keep it sealed, get it graded.

Speaker 1:

It's a bit frowned upon in the Tippex world. Yeah, you know, they're buying it with the aspiration of one day maybe having a little snifter.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think once everyone started getting the Pritt Sticks graded and that all fell off, they're a bit sensitive about trying to get Tipex graded Pritt Stick, you know what you could smear half of that off your face, on your face and feel nothing, yeah that's a starter pack, isn't?

Speaker 1:

it Killed the market. Killed the market. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean Correction, Fluid took a dive, big dive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, who have we got next? Anyway, here we go, love him or hate him a bit like Tippex, it's Billy Marmite.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you, billy. And then we've got the wonderful Simon. Thank you, as always, simon, superb for your support what's bulletproof? On.

Speaker 1:

Simon crotch that's leaving Fat Zangief a bit exposed. Who's doing it this week? Me, it's, it's you, okay. So what part of fat zangief is bulletproof? His buttocks so he's also deployed rearward facing bulletproof. Okay, and how would you like me to perform the Fat Zangief this week? Sensual, just that. One word, that one interpretation for an actor of my calibre.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, sensual, let's see if you can pull it off. It's quite a hard one to pull off. I know you don't normally have struggle pulling things off, but I think you might be struggling with this one. Fat Zangief. Ooh, I think you might have nailed that it's giving me a little bit of a fizz Fat Zangief. Yeah, that's killed it. That's just killed it, it's destroyed it.

Speaker 1:

The idea of you running around pitching a tent over the thought of me doing a Zangief was too much. So I killed it dead, going brown.

Speaker 2:

But yes, thank you, zangief, and thanks for your participation in the Gen 7 episode. Very much appreciated and it's been good fun so far, so looking forward to.

Speaker 1:

He's the hero I was holding out for and he delivered fantastically. In fact, he put you right on a few things and I kind of sat there thinking, hmm, have I married the wrong guy?

Speaker 2:

Oh wow, oh wow. This is how it's going to go, is it Well?

Speaker 1:

look I, as soon as I thought it, I read no, no, don't dig out the whole now, don't start talking when I am talking. This is important. You better listen. This is from me to you sensualness and it's. I forgot what I was going to say now, so that's how important you are to me.

Speaker 2:

I was going to show you. Look, this is how important I am to you. Look, that's how important I am to you. Look, look, that's how important I am to you. Look at that. Hmm, and if, if you're listening on audio, I've just held up Farman simulator 16 bit edition for the mega drive.

Speaker 1:

Did you get me a code?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I did get your code. Oh, good boy, you've got a code. You've got a digital code and digital soundtrack as well.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, please.

Speaker 2:

What's the code?

Speaker 1:

for Evercade in there. What an absolute swine. No, I'll buy an Evercade if you can get me a code for it, for that 16-bit, though. I don't want to pay 8-bit garbage FYI.

Speaker 2:

Garbage, you're mean. It's true, someone put a lot of work into that.

Speaker 1:

That's also true. No, I was going to say that you're an absolute good egg and the show wouldn't exist in its current format without you, in fact.

Speaker 2:

Silly sausage.

Speaker 1:

It probably wouldn't even exist at all. So you know, you know should be. If you're listening, you should be grateful for our GT. Maybe Cress's face?

Speaker 2:

can I do a smoke face on there?

Speaker 1:

no, I don't want to see that. No, that's not, that's killed it. That's all we have time for no. Hang on a minute. We can't even leave that soon. What are you hoping to play?

Speaker 2:

more GTA 4 if I get. As you can probably see behind me, I'm decorating the living room in a minute and sorting the living room out. So if I get the living room done, that's your living room.

Speaker 1:

Where's all your horror and gaming ephemera gone?

Speaker 2:

and they're in storage.

Speaker 1:

I tell you what that storage is taking an absolute. The guy who runs that storage thing is like yeah, I'll do you a good price on one of those. Yeah, no problems, you're in every week just loading more tat in it floor to ceiling.

Speaker 2:

It's got subsidence now.

Speaker 1:

He's had to pay for an upgrade into the foundation. He's had to like bowl underneath it and like fill it with his concrete piles.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, someone's just dumped like electronics boutiques.

Speaker 1:

Oh, full shop worth. I heard that you've actually skewed Earth's gravity in that one location and planes have to go around your local town.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, there's some weight there, put it that way, but yes. So if I get the Retron set up this week on the big TV, then I will be playing some fun simulator 16-bit edition, so looking forward to that. While I was away, I picked up loads of Hidden Gem fodder, which I thought was Hidden Gem, so I'm looking forward to playing that and hopefully discovering missing hidden gems.

Speaker 1:

A world awaits you. My friend doesn't have a point of view. Shelves of games he's never played, isn't he a bit like you and me? Hidden gems please listen, rgt's tips gonna glisten.

Speaker 2:

Anyway. So yeah, I've got a load of.

Speaker 1:

I'm workshopping that. I don't know about the last line, but it's not untrue, so I don't know whether you keep looking up.

Speaker 2:

Have you written lyrics down for that? Have you actually written the lyrics down? Oh, my God, he has. He's written lyrics down, jeez Anyway.

Speaker 1:

Next person to subscribe at the $5 tier, which is only $5, which, if you live anywhere other than the United States, is literally £6.20 or tuppence. Apony will get that signed by me in the post immediately.

Speaker 2:

There you go. And also, while I was away, I did pick up a game I wanted for a long time. I got 8 Run 2 for the original Xbox, got an absolutely mint copy of it, still had the Xbox Live card in, still with the unscratched off code on there, so I was absolutely over the moon with that. So, um, yeah, so, uh, yeah, eight run two, I might uh see if I can play that this week. I don't know if that's backwards compatible to series x, we'll have to see. But um, yeah, we'll see fingers, but yeah, so that's what I'm going to play. What about you?

Speaker 1:

All I can care or think about right now is Lord of the Rings of Third Age and how quickly I can get back on that bad boy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Scott, there's something that's causing you, that isn't it?

Speaker 1:

I don't know what it is and I don't know. I've been feeling PS2 for a while and this has just hit the right note. It's that kind of crossover piece with the surround sound. The graphics are just about bearable, in fact quite passable at some moments, and the gameplay and obviously the world it inherits in the content it feels for the time quite highbrow and an extension of that EA Lord of the. Rings universe they created. So yeah, I'm buzzing like a hornet trapped in your girlfriend's platform shoe.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that is buzzing.

Speaker 1:

I could have said something else, but I chose to go down that road.

Speaker 2:

I was relieved when you said platform shoe. So I must admit there was a bit of shock and anxiety crept in there.

Speaker 1:

Dingle June just careered off the M1 halfway down an embankment.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, it's a.

Speaker 1:

Hornet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's right, thank God, thank God.

Speaker 1:

Kid in the back, Proto RGT with his switch up round his neck. No, he's playing the DS. He's a kid of quality. He's like oh.

Speaker 2:

Fire emblem Three equality.

Speaker 1:

He's like oh, you're right, Fire emblem Three quarters of the way through it as well.

Speaker 2:

He's in his tuna training.

Speaker 1:

Wow, is there any more you want to impart to the infamous fans, the listeners, the cheap? Seats the big seats, any community drivel you want to share.

Speaker 2:

Just say thanks to everyone who's been joining in with the gen 7 play for at the moment, guys, because I appreciate that and I'm glad you're enjoying it and it's good and it's actually very high brow, might I say and um, that's great to to play, get to these little markers, have a little chat.

Speaker 2:

You know where we're getting to. And I know like, for instance, badda binkster was stuck on the the old hospital mission. We had to go in, you had to pick these drugs up for elizabeth, for the old hospital. But then the police swarm in and he kept saying I'm just getting killed and getting killed. And I remembered from when I played it the first time I said don't stand and fight the police, get out that front door, get in a truck, get to pay and spray. Don't worry about fighting them, just run past them. You'll take a few hits, but just run past them. Then, uh, got a message back yeah, I've done that. Done it first time. This time done it first time. I was like, yeah, there we go. That's what it's all about. It's all about chatting, you know, helping each other out of missions if we get stuck.

Speaker 1:

Um, some would say we're building a community yeah, let's hope so, if you want to be be a part of that. Don't be a lonely gamer. Get yourself involved?

Speaker 2:

yeah, definitely, but yes, thanks to everyone, thanks to all the subscribers as well. Really appreciate all that and, yes, so a universal truth spoken by RGT.

Speaker 1:

We appreciate you and subs and the cheap seats. Don't forget to subscribe on Twitter. That's all you've got to do is follow us on there this week and we will see that as payment rendered and we'll be very grateful for you. I guess that's all we have time for this week. Listeners always thank you for your time. We look forward to the pleasure of speaking to you again next week. Until then, happy gaming. And remember there's nothing wrong with being given an official. It's what you do with it that counts. See you, rgt.

Speaker 2:

Laters.