He Wore Speedos, We Wore Nostalgia: The UCP Holiday Special

Ever wish a new release felt like the best parts of the 16-bit era without the grind or the guesswork? That’s the spark behind our deep dive into Terminator 2D: No Fate—an affectionate, modern-built throwback that marries beat-em-up grit, run-and-gun pacing, and side-scrolling driving with clever movie nods and genuinely meaningful branching paths. It’s the rare licensed game that rewards replays because choices actually reshape missions, tone, and outcomes. We break down why it works, where it surprises, and how its small details add up to big grins.

From there, we get practical. Retro can look and play beautifully on modern screens with a few smart tweaks: find the 60 Hz options, switch mono to stereo, and hunt for hidden widescreen toggles in PS2-era menus. On Switch Online, Luigi’s Mansion gets a new lease of life by flipping look controls and managing the frame. We share the adapters and small hardware rituals that cut friction—because sometimes a clean contact or a better pad is the difference between shelving a classic and seeing it shine.

News comes with presents: PSVR2’s Aces of Thunder takes flight with HOTAS support and the kind of seated VR that just works; Gears of War E-Day promises a ground-up Unreal Engine 5 prequel that’s a clean entry point for newcomers; and smaller Switch 2 cartridges signal a healthier, more affordable path for mid-size and indie physical releases. All of it feeds into a holiday rotation that swings between PS2 guilty pleasures, The Getaway’s infamous AI, and the evergreen cool of Soul Reaver.

If you want a cozy listen that blends smart recommendations, tech tips that matter, and a few bold takes on where gaming is headed, you’re in the right place. Hit play, then tell us: what’s your festive go-to game and what’s the one retro setup tweak you swear by? Subscribe, share with a friend who loves pixels with purpose, and drop a review to help more curious gamers find the show.

Transcript

SPEAKER_05: 0:20

Hello and welcome to the unofficial controller podcast, your weekly gaming podcast, episode number two hundred and ninety-nine with me, George, and this week joined by RGT, Rudolph the Red Nose to my Rudolph Hess. How's it going?

SPEAKER_02: 0:36

Yeah, very well, thank you. Best I could come up with. I didn't think you had one lined up. So brilliant. Cue'd up. Brilliant.

SPEAKER_05: 0:46

Good. Good to hear. Uh you're looking very flushy nose. It's Reggie cheeks. Red means you've been at the glop 24-7, you little whino.

SPEAKER_02: 0:55

Cool, I wish. It's more of a case of uh working and coming in from the cold.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00

Well, we do have you out there chopping up the UCP Yule logs ready for the Christmas market. It might be episode 299, but I smell in the air a little bit of festivity. Now, either Mumsey's overdone it with a pine fresh in the toilet, or that's a smell of a Christmas tree descended upon Plantsbury Towers. I don't think I've ever felt as Christmasy as I feel right now in this moment. Really? I feel like in a festive spirit, oh I'm a cracker ready to be pulled. I'm a present ready to be torn open. I'm a turkey ready to be split asunder, have its wishbone snapped clean in half.

SPEAKER_02: 1:48

Wow. Yeah, my my festive spirits waning a little bit, but get a next couple of days of work out of the way and I'll be alright. Couple of days off just to relax, stuff myself stupid, a few drinks, and I mean to be the Christmas Scrooge here.

SPEAKER_05: 2:07

But you have used your leave entitlement, so you will be popping in to the ECP towers during the Christmas period just to make sure the place hasn't burnt down, or the hole in the roof has gone from a small leak into Niagara Falls. I know the leak was in my office, but while you were out shopping your logs, we decided to have a little bit of a reorganise. So you've ended up with the biggest office. It's got a water feature in it. Oh, cool. So I've moved into your old office. Uh it's a bit small. It's a bit small. I don't know how you live like this. I don't know how I'm going to be able to.

SPEAKER_02: 2:53

So when you I don't think you really needed a big one. Did you? Really?

SPEAKER_05: 3:01

Oh contraire. It's everything I always wish for.

SPEAKER_02: 3:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 3:04

And now you've got the big one. Now you've got the leaky big one, a little bit of a dribble down the side. It's not that great.

SPEAKER_02: 3:14

Yeah, well, yeah. At least we've got somewhere to put the merch, as long as it's not in the paddle of dribble.

SPEAKER_05: 3:21

Well, to be honest with you, I cancelled your order for the t-shirts and got some UCP swimming trunks because I thought to myself, well, do you know what? They'll be alright in there. So speedo. No. No one ain't gonna bother with that. Brand name sold as thing. Uh your face on the crop. Wham bam, thank you, ma'am. I don't think we need that on there, but Duncan Goodhue's already got a pair. He's uh what I would call bristling at the seams, to kind of he did a little trick where he got your face to dance. So it's crazy dunk. When you get in the change of room, he's literally outrageous. Um it's not what you expect from a former, obviously, uh British athlete, but I'll be honest, if at the moment, we all laughed. Much like RGT, how we got here. Well, there's 298 episodes to listen to, so you can get an understanding of what this show's all about, but mainly it's all about video games. So let's kick this off as I turn to RGT and say why you been playing?

SPEAKER_01: 4:44

What have you been playing?

SPEAKER_02: 4:48

Um as I was talking about last week, a little bit more of illusion of time slash Gaia, depending on what your region is on the Super Nintendo. I'm a bit stuck on a boss at the moment. The boss is kicking my little suffoc bottom at the moment. So other than that, um what? On the game.

SPEAKER_05: 5:07

Why is he beating you? Should there have been more leveling take place, or are you not understanding the course panic? What's happened here?

SPEAKER_02: 5:16

Well, um I've um sort of transformed into the the stronger character, like the knight with the big sword. Yes. So your hitbox is quite big, and you have to defile these projectiles that follow you and have to try and he's got a big head in the middle of the screen. You've got to try and take him out before these projectiles do too much damage. And um, yeah, I'm getting me buttons. I've come close a couple of times. I think I've just got to persevere and get it done. But um, other than that, I'm I'm loving it. Um something to be said for cartridge games where you can just turn on and jump straight in whenever you want without the installs and bits.

SPEAKER_05: 5:48

Has the retro given you the accessibility with those quick resumes to make it even easier than slapping a cartridge on flicking go? Or are you finding yourself resorting to the the traditional saves within the cartridge?

SPEAKER_02: 6:03

Um it's a bit of both, really. Um, whenever I can save in the save rooms on the cartridge, I do. Um I don't know, the battery's probably long gone dead on there anyway, but I do anyway. But also, and then I'm just doing my quick saves and my slots on there. Just that's just nice when you but I don't do it. I'm not one of them who's just doing 10 step save, 10 step save. I'm not doing that. I'll do I'll do a dungeon or a room and then save and carry on. So I know that's done and out of the way and move on to the next bit. But yeah, I don't I don't really, you know, save too much, but um it's just ease of use and nice, and just flip the retro on, bang, you're straight in the game, you know, and it's just brilliant. You could have 10-15 minutes on it and and jump out, but really enjoying that. Um I I've just got this thing at the moment where I just think I'm sort of I've had sort of that reverse rose tinted spectacles where I remember Super Nintendo games, Mega Drive games, a certain um aesthetic, but now I'm going back to them. They're actually better than what I'm remembering, which is normally the other way around.

SPEAKER_05: 7:05

Um I think it's more because yeah, I think the Mega Drive and there's some like do hold up, they're as good as they could ever those games could ever look on the Super Nintendo.

SPEAKER_02: 7:14

Both of them. Yeah, depending on what game you're playing, I think. Depending on what genre you're playing, but um I think it's also because we get so many pixel games fed to us now. I think that's actually making that yeah. So, but yeah, really enjoying it, and that's really got me thinking, I just you know, I want to play more of these old JRPGs great.

SPEAKER_05: 7:32

Great, thank you for the OG hardware. Are you finding the retron is scratching your itch and you're like, yeah, it's fine on here, I'm not that bothered.

SPEAKER_02: 7:41

I thought it would. I mean, I've got an absolute mint Super Nintendo. I love my Super Nintendo, it's so clean, so nice, that looks the part, and but for for how easy the Retron is to use, and yet when you're in that 4-3 aspect on your modern TV, you don't really notice it too much because I'm still playing on a Super Nintendo pad original. Um, so you do you don't notice it so much because it's sort of tucked away there under the TV. You you know, I don't think too much of it, but having those saves and that is just seems, you know, it suits my lifestyle the way to play. But yeah, I'm I think I'm gonna get into more of these once illusion's done. Um I've also also I picked up this week, you've probably seen on Discord or on my Instagram as well. I got um Terminator 2D No Fate. Um got the collector's edition of that this week. Um, so I I have put a few runs together on that. Um yeah, that's that's a good game. Um Bitmap Bureau know what they're doing with these sort of games. And I mean, I even saw a bit today, I think it was on IGN. The details they put in this game are fantastic. Really, if you're a Terminator 2 movie fan and you're into games and you've always wanted a real decent Terminator 2 game, this is the game for you because the little nods they've put in. For instance, I was telling you, George, when when you do the scene where Arnie appears and you're in the car park and he appears in the nude, you go into the bike, a bar, and then you start having a few.

SPEAKER_05: 9:13

Do you see any Arnold's front pocket, or is that just like a is that just had a little bit of smooth around and it looks like an action man downstairs?

SPEAKER_02: 9:23

It's it's it's I've never really zoomed in, but it's pixelated, but I will check and come back next week. Just to confirm from the listeners.

SPEAKER_05: 9:31

If they're like, well, you know what, in the film that you can he might have a little pixelated pink story as John Thomas, but in the game, obviously, you can you see him in all his glory.

SPEAKER_02: 9:43

Well, that's it's funny because that's one of the Easter eggs. I was going to talk about an IGN because the first one I thought there was country music on in this there and there's country music on in this bar, and you you you have your fight. And as I walk past, there was a woman at a jukebox, and I thought, Oh, can I hit the jukebox? I hit the jukebox, smashed it, and then bad to the bone come on. They've licensed the actual bad to the bone, and then as you go through to near the kitchen bit, he then throws the guy onto the cooker, like into the uh in the movie.

SPEAKER_05: 10:11

Do you have to do you have to press the button to get the timing right for that? Or is that more of a you just walk in the room and it happens sort of thing? Do you definitely do you have to punch into the room?

SPEAKER_02: 10:20

No, um, from what I remember, you do all the fight scene through there, and then the last bit is just as you're about to walk out, he grabs the bloke and throws him onto the cooker. Then he screams and rolls off. Um, but the Easter egg apparently is in if you play on the hardest level, which I think is judgment day, once you unlock that level, when you get to that scene again, you're in a pair of bermuda shorts. And the reason you're on a pair of bermuda shorts, as for people that have watched the the how us mark made on the DVD and video, because how they filmed it was Arnie wore a pair of Bermuda shorts, so he wasn't actually in the nude when they done that scene, and that's those Bermuda shorts you've got on, little pixels. So it's little things like that. They've yeah, they've really gone to town on it. Um it's great fun. He is a lot of platformer run and gun shooter, but it's got a beat-em-up level, it's got a driving level, it's got the where your Edward Furlong on the on your dirt bike and the T1000 jumps off the bridge in the truck, you've got that as well. And they've they've done it really well. Where it's that's not a lot of side, it's a side scrolling driving sections, but you auto drive along and you can accelerate a little bit. There's accelerate pads to go on, and that'll give you a little warning, so that'll say top or bottom lane, bip bip, bip, and you can quickly move lanes, you have to dodge stuff.

SPEAKER_05: 11:37

I wondered how it would handle it. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so it's really good fun, and it's another game that gives you when you said beep beep beep, it made me feel of a different game. I don't know whether it was Shen Yu with its QTEs, but I feel like I've played a 16-bit game where you just get these moments where you have to move. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that noise, don't get me wrong, but I feel like I've played the 16-bit game like, and that's the mythos of this Terminator 2D, or no fate, or whatever it's called, is it incorporates those feelings of games from a time where these games were prevalent, and that's I think really what makes this whole package so cohesive because it's dedication not only to the source material, Terminator 2, great film, a lot of kind of nostalgia kitsch around it, but then also they're dedicated to building the game around the framework of the best game they could make in the 16-bit Terminator 2 era of console technology, and that these and they've melded these game styles together that just feel right. So even if that the the the movie character down option feels a bit battletoed, Turtles in Time in a way, even if that option has never been in a game, it incorporates that kind of movement within it that makes you feel very much of the moment. Like if someone said to me, if they get very hush-hush about this and said, Oh, we've managed to secure a license for some lost media, get a lost media game, no one at all would doubt that this is a product of its time. And but from what I've seen and what you've told me about it, infinitely playable in 2025. And from what you've said with your multiple playthroughs, a little bit more instead of making it brutally difficult like they would have done back in the day, they've made it playable. So you've seen it from beginning to end two or three times now, I think, from what you've told me. But to lengthen it out and to give you the length of a game, because this licensed game would have been a 20-hour game back in the day because you'd have had to have slogg through it and died a million times. This time around, it sounds like you've you've walked through it in the modern way, you've enjoyed it from start to finish. But now the extra girth, for want of a better word, is provided by these playthroughs and these alternate time portal windows that they give you based on your changes.

SPEAKER_02: 14:02

Oh, it's brilliant. It's chef kiss. Um I yeah, I done um when I done my first run through, um, I just played it as the film. Um then my second run through, you get to a point where Arnie's got the chip in his head, and you can change the chip in his head, so then he can make his own decisions and he's not on his you know his dotted line of what he's been programmed to do. Well, the first run through I changed his chip, right? So you went to the guy's house who invented the the chips for these Terminators or the AI chips originally, and you spare him in the first one, then you go to the big base and try and destroy his work so it doesn't happen, blah blah blah. On the second run through, it said change Arnie's chip. I thought, no, I'm not going to change his chip this time, see what happens. When it gets to that stage, Arnie's in the house and he kills the guy in Bent, and then the police turn up, you get arrested as Sarah Connor, and then now you have to escape from a police station. So the story's gone off on the butterfly effect on a completely different line.

SPEAKER_05: 15:07

So clever.

SPEAKER_02: 15:08

Um, it's so clever. Um, the pixel art, and I mean, I sent you a little video of the intro. The pixel art is stunning, absolutely stunned out of it.

SPEAKER_05: 15:18

For me, it's actually the games and the levels themselves, the detail not only in the characters, but the ability to hide and take cover within rooms and the way they kind of fade into the shadow a little bit. Uh all of that, the little details, you know, all those iconic moments from the film where the T1000 kind of morps into the cop and sticks the uh his sort of dagger through the guy's eye and pins the cup as well. I think it's all included, and it's like there's just so many bits in there done in a way. If you're familiar with the film, you're gonna love this. If you're into retro games and only loosely know of the film, you're gonna love it anyway. Um, I would say UCP high recommendation.

SPEAKER_02: 16:03

Oh, definitely. I mean, even I'll I'll finish on this the continue screen, right? So if you go on easy mode, you get unlimited continues. If you go on to the next level, normal mode, you have to find your continues in hidden places as you go. But when you get to the when you die, you go to continue screen. It is Arnie's leather glove going down into the water, and when you press yes to continue, it does the thumbs up to you. So and I just think those little details like that are superb. Um, can't recommend it enough. Like I said, I bought the collector's dish, and I think it was about 90 bucks. Um, I show you all what I had in that. That was the tin, like the original video version, like the VHS, and this you get lots of stuff in that, plus you get the the actual switch sort of bigger box switch case as well, which has more stuff in as well. Um, great value for money. Um yeah, brilliant. One of my best purchases game in this year, I think. So Terminator 2D, no fate. Um strong.

SPEAKER_05: 17:01

An entry in the Ponzies. Uh, currently my Ponsies submissions probably got the getaway scar face Simpsons here.

SPEAKER_02: 17:11

You've done roll reversal, that was me last year, putting all these older games in Halo 3 and not looking good, is it? Persona four and five, infamous two. How young Seb is he's gonna have to look up half these. Never a moment. What's that? What system's that on a what? PlayStation 2.

SPEAKER_05: 17:30

I just need you to play the getaway between now and the Ponzi submissions to be really forced, artificially forced settled.

SPEAKER_02: 17:36

I've actually been thinking about it, actually, yeah. I've been thinking about playing.

SPEAKER_05: 17:41

What else have you been playing, Handsome Devil?

SPEAKER_02: 17:43

Um I also the other day it came up on YouTube. Some YouTuber said, Oh, there's now the uh Final Fantasy VII remake demo on Switch 2 for free to play. I thought, oh, I had I had an hour you know on my own in the house. I thought, right, quickly installed that because it's only about an hour long. Yeah. And I played through that because I've I've tried two or three times to play that game. I love right the the set, and I love, I know it's an old game, and everyone will be saying, Oh, how have you never played Final Fantasy 7? I didn't play them sort of games back in the day, but I've played this start area for the remake so many times, and I've just tried to get my head around the combat and how it works with change of care, but it's it's clicked this time, I think. So I played it through on the Switch 2, which is as good as when I played on the PS4 Pro. It easily looks good. It's locked at 30, um, but it didn't seem too bad at 30, it seemed okay. Um, it looks really good. Yeah, graphics look good, looked like well, I mean, it always was a very good looking game, anyway. The lighting and everything they do is superb. Anyway, so I played for the demo now and thought, do you know what? I'm gonna pre-order this on a switch to coming out in January. I'm gonna have a switch two port. And then today, while I was at work now, I thought, hang on a moment, hang on, hang on, hang on. What am I doing? I've got the PS4 version disc, and then you get a free upgrade to PS5.

SPEAKER_05: 19:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 19:13

So I thought, right, cancel that pre-order, which I've done, and it this it's literally installed now as we recording. I had to work out how to do it. It's a bit, it's a bit obtuse how to get the PS5 version. If you remember this.

SPEAKER_05: 19:25

Go on to your yeah, this is early PS4 to PS5 conversion era, and it was messy.

SPEAKER_02: 19:32

Yeah, yeah. So you for anyone who does want to do this and listen to this, think, oh, I'm gonna play that. If you've got a PS4 version, go in. I haven't got mine actually downloaded, but it's in my library. Go to your library, go to the little three dots, press view product, that'll change you over to the PS5 version. Yes, and then you can download it, but that will download all the DLC and bits as well. So you get that. What did they they done that integrated? Integrate state, was it?

SPEAKER_05: 19:55

Integrate.

SPEAKER_02: 19:56

Yeah, which is dot mid between rebirth and that one, isn't it? Little bit as well in between DLC, so that's that. So I'm gonna play some more of that. Um, and finally, um Luigi's Mansion on Nintendo Online on my Twitch 2. Um I saw that was on there, and I've I've I've played Luigi's Mansion in reverse order when when Mrs. RGT bought me my first Twitch, which which was the the Turquoise Switch Lite for Christmas a few years ago. She bought me Luigi's Mansion 3 with it to play, and I played right for it, loved the game, brilliant. So then I went back and bought the 3DS, Luigi's or 3D, was it 3DS or was it DM? Um I think it was three three old 3ds. That had 3D. I remember playing it in 3D. Um so I went then went and played Luigi's Mansion 2 and completed that and loved it. So now I've no plan one, so I've done it 321, a bit like Ted Rogers. Um but as a dusty bit. Retro Reddle now, yeah. Um but yeah, so I've I've now started, I've only about half an hour in. The controls feel a little of the time.

SPEAKER_05: 21:06

Although you can go into the good thing about Switch Online, because bizarrely RGT, this was going to be one of my games that I talked about, is you can flip the controls. So down is up and up is down.

SPEAKER_02: 21:18

Yeah, a little bit opportunity. I was waving this doover about all over the place.

SPEAKER_05: 21:22

How did you find when you changed the controls? Because I went in and said, Yes, I want up, is down, is up and up is down. It was like it was in red, and I was like, Okay, so that's not stuck, so I'll do it again. That's not stuck.

SPEAKER_02: 21:33

Yeah, some confirm it, don't you? I think and yeah, it's weird. Mine went down. I got it done and it's I done it back down, and then that it went back to the original. What I hadn't intended. I mean that started with, and I was like, Oh, hang on. So I had to go back in, confirm it, come back out. But yeah, it looks really good on there. I I don't like the border. I wish we'd get rid of those borders on the side. I don't really like those, and that and the little writing at the bottom for your for your minus button to do your menu. I I don't like that written on there, but anyway, other than that, it looks good, it plays well.

SPEAKER_05: 22:03

I suppose you could zoom on your TV, but I sometimes wish that Switch had options within the emulation to zoom within so you could have that option of the widescreen on switch in handheld mode. Um, I know it's a lot to ask. I know these are emulated.

SPEAKER_02: 22:19

Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Yeah, I didn't think of that in handheld because I normally play them just on the monitor. So, oh yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_05: 22:26

So on your TV you've got choices, but when you play it handheld, you have none. It's 4-3 or nothing. Because obviously you can adjust your TV aspect ratio on a win as you please. And uh they have to be a good one.

SPEAKER_02: 22:40

It stretches it a bit, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_05: 22:42

There is a zoom function on mine which just brings you into the screen more where it doesn't actually change it as much. So it's still not filling.

SPEAKER_02: 22:51

So you don't lose nothing off the top or bottom.

SPEAKER_05: 22:54

No, but it's filling it a lot more than it was. Um, often within games PS2 era, I think maybe you could argue maybe some Nintendo 64 games have this comment. Come and come at me in the comments, please, because I am actually intrigued to know if any did. But like a whenever I play a PS2 game, they'll go in, select widescreen option if it's available. Game changer.

SPEAKER_02: 23:18

I've never ever thought to do that on my PS2.

SPEAKER_05: 23:21

Every time I turn on a PS title, I go into the options. It's a bit obtuse at times because sometimes it's not there. What in the game op in-game options within the in-game options of the PS2 or any kind of older game that I play, I go into the options and I set it to stereo as a bare minimum from mono, so then you get the full audio experience on your modern setups as good as you can get. And then any option I have then to change the uh aspect ratio from 4.3 to 16.9, or more often on the wider games, you get the widescreen option where it's borders top and bottom, but in the screen. You can then obviously change it to 60 hertz as well, which is a must, because then you you're at least 60 frames per second, or as close to that as you can get in your refresh rate. Yeah, yeah. Good point. So when I play the getaway as an example, I do that on erecton. And that's the right thing to do, I believe. Go in, change those settings, but it's direct. That forces it to 60. Yes, it does, or at least as close to that as a refresh rate as you can get, because a lot of these older games they might only be doing 15 frames per second, but at least the TV's in sync with the console. Um yeah, I get I sorry RGT, I took you on a little bit of a side ramble there about my peculiar technological uh curiosities that I would like to see representing. Bit of advice for the gamer of the retro burgeoning gamer, but retro gamer on a modern TV, it's a game changer, mate.

SPEAKER_02: 24:47

Yeah, yeah, brilliant.

SPEAKER_05: 24:49

In fact, Nintendo Switch Online does have options to zoom the screen in, actually, thinking about it, does it not?

SPEAKER_02: 24:59

Yeah, I'll have to look into it more because I'm always worried about stretching image, and I don't like it when it's stretched. If you can do it, you know, a nice 16x9 rather than a you know, but yeah, it's just when it's in that four by three, that looks nice to play in four by three, but you just get that them horrible borders and and yeah, but but yeah, but yeah, that's uh pretty much what I've been been playing this week. Been dabbling with those. Um what about you, George? I take it then you have been playing a bit of the old Luigi's mansion.

SPEAKER_05: 25:27

Um I dabbled in Luigi's mansion just for some um you're right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 25:36

So I just had a little cough. Just a little puff.

SPEAKER_04: 25:39

Um just a little cuff. Just a little cuff. Just a little cuff.

SPEAKER_05: 25:51

Yeah. Join the Discord, look in the downloads section, everything will be revealed. Uh the what have I been playing? So, yes, Luigi's Mansion enjoyed that. It it was a bit of a throwback, have to admit, I kind of bounced off it after about 20 minutes and put it on the back burner. Uh, because I've got lots going on. For Flashy B. I pulled down retrospectively the games we'd talked about. So I played Micro Machines V3, quite enjoyed that. Um might not be, I don't know. Like the intro screen for that had the modern copy I've now seemed to got had the modern sort of Codemaster splash on the front, and I was like, I don't remember this in '97, but maybe I'm wrong. I am but once we got onto the tracks themselves, everything came back to me: the pool table, the chemistry lab, etc., etc. It it was a joy. It looks nowhere near as good as it did to me as a kid back in the day, obviously. Um I'm playing it on a much bigger screen. Um so some of the pixel hand-drawn art backgrounds don't maybe look as good as they could do. So is that PS1 in a V3? Yeah, it's PS1 and it's like an isometric kind of 3D. Your cars are rendered in 3D, the Trans kind of a pseudo 3D. It is great. I think on a CRT, you know, a 12-inch CRT in a bedroom somewhere on Scar, this thing would look like.

SPEAKER_02: 27:22

Yeah, PS1s really struggle on a on a modern T on a modern TV.

SPEAKER_05: 27:26

Although you say that, because the other game we want to talk about is Legacy of Cane Soul Reaver. I decided to brush off the PlayStation 1 version after we talked the other day, and I slapped that in. My version of it has got like a lithograph, holographic cover where on the front you can take Raziel from like the normal world into the sort of demon world by twisting the box. Oh wow, which is pretty cool. It's all fade, sun faded as hell. Like the front's kind of gone a little bit brown uh because of the plastic coating. So the bromide's obviously leaked a bit, so it's got a bit of a brown tinge. But this thing was absolutely exquisite when it was new. Um, I think the way I've stored it, I don't think there's been any more degradation. In fact, almost impossible for it to have had any more degradation, but it's certainly degraded. Uh, but the game itself, as I talked about on flashback, it's got that triangular PlayStation 1 yank to it. Um, but it adds to the enjoyment. So I played that through. It felt fresh, it looked good. Even Rachel looked up and commented, like, this looks good for PS1. It's like, yeah, it does, it really does. It holds up well as well, it plays well. The voice acting is good. Um, gameplay level design still kind of holds up. Hence why we got a reboot of it more recently on the Evercade and the newer system Switch, Xbox, PlayStation, etc. So if you're curious, never played it, check it out. It will hold up. If you're nostalgic, get it any which way, wherever and whenever you can. I can recommend the PlayStation One version, I can recommend the Dreamcast version, which I'll be honest with you, in my mind's eye, I see is barely discernible between the reboot and and but I'm sure there is a difference. So okay. Um, but the Dreamcast is a great place to play it. The reboots, why not? I think they're down to sub 10 pounds on the Nintendo store at the moment in the sale. So if you want them, get them. Do it now. Don't wait for the voucher, Timmy, because it'll be gone. Grow some balls. Yeah. Awesome. It's got it on the download. Well done, little Timmy. Um, other games I've been playing, the getaway. I'm through to the last level on that now. So it's the chase to the boat, final boat shootout, and then if you're even mildly interested, you can play it through as the Flying Squad Detective. Um I've been stuck on this.

SPEAKER_02: 29:45

How many hours have you put in there?

SPEAKER_05: 29:47

Ooh, I don't know. Not as many as I think, but more than I dare admit, I'd probably like to say. How's that for an answer? Sort of 12-hour game, 10, 12 hours, something like probably a 12-hour game. Probably 8 to 12 hours. If you know it, then I think it's a bit of a cakewalk. If you don't know it, you're a modern gamer, a little bit of time to adjust. But when you do, you're gonna like this game. Make sure you're using a modern controller. I'd recommend the wingman. What's it called? The Brooks Wingman. Yeah, something on uh something like that. Google that, he'll sort it out. Or the one that RGT is contractually obliged to recommend because he's got a financial deal. But I'm just trying to look after you and I'll recommend you something. Uh because you've probably already got the controller that you want to use. Um so RGT's promo deals aside, his wingman, his wingman thing would do the job equally as well. Whatever suits, but don't feel hammerstrung like I have been historically. Now I've been, as I talked about last week, lucky enough to just off a relatively newish PS2 controller. Problem solved. Although I did notice some weird uh vias to the right out of nowhere on um I'm using an extender which is very poor quality, I have to admit, which is probably where some of these issues are coming from. But in Scarface, my car would suddenly pirouette on the spot, 90 degrees to the right, and then accelerate into the wall. And I first of all thought was me, maybe I'm just getting a bit lazy holding the controller, but even without holding the controller, it would tear off, pirouette, smash, done. So, all right, okay, so something's not right here. So I might get the uh sponsored by Silver Hook Electrical Contact Cleaner, non-chlorinated, non-corrosive, leaves no residue, available in a handy 500mm uh uh litre edition. Uh it's made in Britain, available in most places. Pound that mainly pound. Hashtag not spawn. Hashtag not spawn. Um probably even clean up your Brookman Wingman uh defender converter controller. So you're all over it like a rash. So I might give the PS2 a bath soon as it's Christmas. Not to date this episode too badly, but yeah, give it some of that. Um so the getaway, the last level is ridiculously obtuse. The AI for Yasmin, your character that joins you for this journey to the boat, is I remember you saying about it. Probably one of the most irritating characters you've ever seen in your life. You get out of the car because yours is about to explode, you don't want to see her barbecued, you're trying to be a decent guy. So you get out, you find a car, you think her main name would be get in that and extract the revenge that she talks about. She then decides she's going to, I don't know, weld her feet to the spot and turn into a mobile turret that takes on probably half of London. You're screaming, get in the car, get in the car, yes, get in the car, you slag. I didn't say that. That's what he said again. Get in the car, get in the car, get in the car, yes, beep, beep, beep, beep. And you think, right, I've had enough of this, I'd better get out. Just as you're about two seconds from her, the last bullet goes in, she crumples, crumples like a bit of wet paper on her. Does she not move at all then? She kind of runs around. I think she gets sort of snagged on broken geometry on the cars where the panels have been deformed. I don't exactly know, but there's something weird going on. Um, she's also probably her AI model is probably just locked on. Engage bad guys till bad guys are gone, then get in car. I wish it was just get the hell in the car. Um, because there's probably required minimum three car exchanges to get to the other end of London, to get to the spot to walk through to get to the boat. I've been there once, didn't realise I had to get out of the car and walk through this little alleyway. Yaz gives you an instruction of try the next street, which I did, which was closed off. When I then, after getting really frustrated, watched a walkthrough and realized I'd been right frickin' there, RGT. I'll be honest with you, I nearly lost. I say I nearly, I lost my shit because I've not been able to get close to that location since. Uh I hate her. Oh no. I'm on the verge of almost hating the game, even though this time through of playing the getaway, I found it, in my own words, apart from this section and some of the other driving sections, an absolute cakewalk and actually quite enjoyable once you know what you're doing and you start selecting. You've got me wanting to play it. Uh I've been harsh historically on it. I even think of you verbally abused Mike Rouse about it, which was a mistake because should have just got the better controller out. But anyway, um you know, we all grow as people, don't we? People want to see some character development from the George character that I play. So yeah, you got it. What more do you need? Um, a little bit more Scarface, uh, which I have been enjoying. It holds up. It's enjoying the balls meter. Uh you can play it that way if you like. Um, it's nice to know that you've got a full set of balls under you when you're in a bit of a tight spot, but it's not necessarily necessary, I'll be honest with you, 100% of the time. Um, but yeah, unloading your balls in a crowded place. Yeah, it's one that um certainly raises an eyebrow too, I should say, amongst some evil henchmen for sure. Like, how come how suddenly soon you're like into them? You're like a chipmunk. Uh you just suddenly suddenly turn into this tornado of lead. I uh yeah, so life as a video game bad guy sucks, really. See the whole the whole foundation of physics that you know is changed in a heartbeat just to suit this player who's screaming obscenities at you and you friends. All you're trying to do is earn a crust. Uh you barely exist unless you turned on. Last time you were turned on was in a teenager's bedroom. Put that on a t-shirt.

unknown: 36:15

Right.

SPEAKER_05: 36:18

Now you turned on in a voice next from your man's house. And you're trying to work out like who you are, what you are, where your wife and kids are, uh, before Tony Tony storms in through the door, kicks in slomo. You're like, well, I've not seen this before. Code line goes dead. That sucks to be you. Uh, and then you get turned off and probably won't get turned on again until some 51-year-old man decides to turn you back on again. Um yeah. To be honest, I've signed worse confessions in the cop shop RGT, so uh, you know, guilty as charged. Um I also, out of curiosity, lobbed the Godfather in. Got into a bit of a love it when I get into a DM wrangle every now and then. I got into a DM wrangle with uh Rose Space Monk, a little bit of Christmas festivities and all that sort of nice stuff. I always love talking to the beloved man. Uh we waffled on about some other bits and bobs and he recommended he he said that uh Eod Godfather with a bit of nostalgia. I don't know that he played it on 360 or or or what have you, but um I'm playing it on PS2 and it looks okay. It doesn't look as good as Scarface. I think it probably looks great on 360. On PS2, it looks a bit fragile. Um it's okay. I think I enjoyed the missions bolted together more on the PSP, like the open world New York, take it or leave it. Actually, do you know what? I don't even think I give a damn. Um but the characters and the acting and the general finesse of a product they spent probably more money on than they should have done, it is quite appealing. But I've got too many gangster games on the go right now, RGT, if I'm being honest. Uh so I'm gonna rest that one and dust that off another day. Um, probably want to see Getaway finished. And that and that is probably where I should leave it. I don't think I've really been tearing into anything else. Update from last week, Game Lab console still hasn't arrived. So it looks like the spirit of Christmas, which they advertised and recommended would be in your stocking, and a great stock cooking filler for the retro gamer in your life, or blah blah blah blah. The product's not even here, and I'm already sick of their lies, so that's certainly going to feature quite heavily in the review. You go online and everything about this product is all shill-based sponsored advertisement. I see very few to none actual real reviews. So just so you know, listener, I will review the whole experience when I get this game lab console. We will see if the£49 was worth it. I got a carry case and a multiplayer kit for that. Or did I pay more? When I do the full review, I'll I'll carve out all the monies, I'll lay it all down so you can make your own mind up. But so far, and especially if you're thinking, oh, I might get one of those for Christmas. It it even if you pick priority delivery two to three days, I'll tell you one thing now. It is not 2026. It's happening. This will be mine will be here in 2026. I predict currently March. If it turns up any sooner, I'll be surprised. But seeing as a website boasts two to eight Oh, you got express delivery then, did you? I didn't click that. But seeing as a website boasts two to eight day standard delivery RGT.

unknown: 39:59

Oh

SPEAKER_03: 40:00

Whoa.

SPEAKER_05: 40:03

Yeah. Yes. Now, I am going to leave this money as dead money hanging in the universe for the critique of the process and the product and the review and for your own morbid curiosity, listeners. I am going to leave that money in the air. I'm not going to chase a credit card company for it. I'm going to leave it there until at least June. And if we haven't received it by then, I'll contact my bank and I'll get the reimbursement. Yeah. We want to see this RGT. I want to see it turn up. I may even film it, although you're talking to the guy who stumbles onto Discord, so I wouldn't hold out too much hope for that, but we can try. Also, must say thank you to RetroEd for the awesome art attack mashup that you put together for us. I've never seen myself so high-energy, by the way, in the East Wing of Hotelbury Towers, and me swinging around and smacking the living snot out of my microphone stamp. I don't ever remember that happening on air. So retroed's gone deep in the locker to find that little gem.

SPEAKER_02: 41:13

Yeah, that's brilliant. I loved that. That is so funny. When you stand up as well, when you start singing and stand up, it's brilliant. For some reason, I'm miming and shouting below.

SPEAKER_05: 41:28

You don't reckon that was a pretty seasoned RGT yeah, do you? Oh. Now I've been doing some creation of the back catalogue RGT, and you on record told me that hidden gems come out every four weeks. Now, the last hidden gem we had was over four weeks ago. So you better grab one off the shelf and make it up as we go along because RGT Lone Ranger.

SPEAKER_04: 42:03

Rat it on down. Bring hidden gems to me.

SPEAKER_02: 42:14

What are you going for? Seems a waste, really, doesn't it? Nothing.

SPEAKER_04: 42:19

Can't you just grab something on your shelf?

SPEAKER_02: 42:22

Do a random snatch and stop making if you stop making the executive producer do everything, then I'll have to and do hidden gems.

SPEAKER_05: 42:35

I think the main show fans probably think they deserve a hidden gem more than flashback deserves an episode.

SPEAKER_02: 42:44

Yeah, but then what they can do about their merch that needs to, and then so I don't really want to let them down on that. No. Um okay.

SPEAKER_05: 42:54

Listen, I feel like this is all getting a little bit sort of mutiny on the bounty, and I don't like the way it's feeling. I don't like the sort of connotations.

SPEAKER_02: 43:05

Uh I well, I've been talking to Mumsy and Editor Phil, and there's an undercurrent of a mutant editor. Editor Phil here, I think.

SPEAKER_05: 43:17

Editor Ed, producer Phil.

SPEAKER_02: 43:22

Nope. Roles have been changing around here. Roles have been changing.

SPEAKER_05: 43:30

Yeah. Wow. Okay. Uh Merry Christmas, by the way. Yep, you too. Nice. Time for the news. Scout the very darkest readers of the internet to bring you the latest stories. First up, somewhere buried on my computer, somewhere is some news. And for you, the very finest news. Now, guess what? Three wise men across your table today representing the Holy Trinity. Coming in the door with frankincense. He's everybody's favourite little PS2 fella. I don't know why, but I always see Sammy Barker struggling to challenge four foot tall. Um I see him as a little diminutive chap, uh, like an elf. But he's brought frankincense. He represents at the Holy Trinity, he represents Push Square. The top of the cross. That's right. Don't get at me. It's based on listeners. All right, it's based on views. Anyway, here's a bit of news. Good bit of news for Christmas. PSVR2 is highly anticipated. Aces of Thunder logs in a third of February release date. Fly high, says Sammy Barker. Walk low, says Georgie from the UCP. Aces of Thunder, one of the most anticipated upcoming PSVR2 games, has lopped in a third February release date at last. Although the game can be played without Sony's virtual reality headset, the dogfighting game from Gagin Entertainment has been made specifically with the capabilities of the latest generation VR helmets in mind. It also hosts the T-Flight Hottus 4. Uh is that a flight stick or my search engine? Um if you picked up recently for Flight Simulator 2024, or you're planning to get uh it prior to the release of Ace Combat 8 Wings of Thieve, then it's just another game to play with the peripheral. The title features 29 meticulously recreated World War II era aircraft, and here's a snippet from its summary.

SPEAKER_04: 45:33

Aces of Thunder. Battles will see you fighting across the world and getting a better idea of where the fate of war was decided. Visit 50 beautiful maps representing three key theatres of World War II, Western, Eastern, and Pacific fronts, as well as the signature World War I front lines.

SPEAKER_05: 45:55

In addition to the single player missions, you'll also find a full online multiplier mode so you can pit your dogfighting mastery against pilots from all around the world. I personally have been waiting quite a time for another reason to dust off the now mold collecting, and that's no exaggeration, because I looked at it the other day and had to clean off what look like grey moulds from the headband. Clean off the now dusty and moldy PSVR 2 and get myself into what seems to be the main gold-rich vein for the PSVR headset in 2026, which is flight simulators. RGT, what do you make of another flight sim game? What do you make of another flight sim game incorporating VR? And are we about to see maybe some sort of meta shift here?

SPEAKER_02: 46:52

Um I'll start by just asking you is the PS VR2 the worst gaming item you have ever bought apart from the Atari J Group which you bought twice?

SPEAKER_05: 47:06

No. Because when it is actually working, I say no with caveats. No, it's not the worst piece of gaming tech I've ever bought. Okay. Could you sit down and have hours and hours of fun with this on No Man's Sky, some of these upcoming flight simulators, Grand Turismo 7, and get a pretty good But can't you do that on PSVR one? Not with these newer games. The Fidelity is not the same. The headset's a game changer.

SPEAKER_02: 47:35

No, but you can play GT7, you can play No Man's Sky, can't you on it?

SPEAKER_05: 47:39

You can play No Man's Sky, you can't play GT7. You can play support with the headset. One headset.

SPEAKER_02: 47:48

Oh, you can't you can't you can't play GT7 with PSVR one then?

SPEAKER_05: 47:51

No, no.

SPEAKER_02: 47:53

Oh right, oh that's a shame. So I've got a PSVR one. But no, do you don't really want to do that? I've got to try it out.

SPEAKER_05: 48:00

Let me let me let me know. Try it. But the customer review might be worth trying. If you have the great b on your PSVR2, not now. It's dead money to me now, in it, really. You know, trading it in, what we're gonna get. Best part of nothing. Well, big chunk of change, actually. But is there anything else out there that I want? Not not really. Um is it still worth it for kayak? Yes, it's an expensive briefle for a kayak game. Was it good in GT7? Literally a really great experience coupled with a wheel. You are there. Um Man's Sky, game changing. The sense of scale you get, not only of your ship, but of space, of the planets that you're on. When you actually have to crank your neck back to look up some of these vistas, it's like, wow, this is like and the fidelity in the VR2 headset is incredible. I just don't really feel like they've supported it as I hoped they would. Um, it's not seen the games from the third parties that I hoped. Yeah, you you go on there and you find the VR section, and quite often now you have to find the VR games by filtering, by filtering, by filtering. But you know, when you find them, there's some solid bits of kit there. But do I regret buying it? In a way, yes. In a way, as I said, no, I have had some good experience on it. Those experiences have come in very pound dollar heavy, if you think about it. But it's a great thing.

SPEAKER_02: 49:41

I think this having a new game like this, you know, especially as playing into a sp stronger points, you know, solid games, I think, are always good in uh in a VR.

SPEAKER_05: 49:52

Any game where you're seated in a position like a car, like a kayak, like an aeroplane, like the ship in No Man's Sky. No Man's Sky does fall about, fall apart a little bit when you get out. Not massively if you're into the movement the way it is, but these plane games, kayak games, car games, you're sat in a seat, you're anchored in the position, you then move the vehicle around with the control input. So you can never move out your seat. So the experience becomes more and more realistic. I think the upcoming flight simulator will be mind-blowing, if I'm honest with you. You know, looking at the case.

SPEAKER_02: 50:30

I think one of my best experiences on on PSVR1 was um Star Wars Squadrons. That was so good when you were looking down at your feet and trying to see where the X-Wings were in that first mission and flying over you. And I can imagine that in PSVR 2 just being outstanding. I mean, it was brilliant in PSVR one. But that's what, like you say, when you're in a fixed seat, that's where that forte comes into it, I think, for the VR.

SPEAKER_05: 50:58

There was um there was another experience that came with Battlefield that was VR, that was a mission where you played as some maps wing fighters on the around the periphery of the Rogue One movie.

SPEAKER_02: 51:11

Oh, yeah, on the battlefront, yeah, yeah. I played that as well. That was good. But I seem to dialed it in more on squadrons, so made it that little bit better.

SPEAKER_05: 51:19

Squadrons is good. But I felt like it overstayed its welcome a bit for what it was, whereas that Rogue One mission left you wanting more, which you never got. Whereas the X-Wing Squadrons game for me gave me way too much, and then therefore you start to see you start to see the holes in it a bit more. I did think that that VR1 game was a bit of a vomit comment, comment, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02: 51:44

Yeah, it could be, it could be. Um there's a few times I pulled a loop de loop, and I thought, oh I could feel my stomach go a bit, yeah, because your brain's telling you you are doing a loop-de-loop, and you're like, whoa, but that proves how good it is. But no, I think this is brilliant for PSVR2. If you're a PSVR2 owner, um, it gives you something to you know, dust it off and play, and you know, it sounds good and it sounds as though they've done a decent job on it. Agreed. Um, so yeah, and it seems fairly in-depth. I mean, I haven't done a lot of research.

SPEAKER_05: 52:16

In a way, like this thing. Yeah, in a way, this one and the other World War II one feels slightly more curated and experienced, whereas like Flight Simulator, which I'm excited when the I'm not gonna buy it till the VR's announced, by the way. If you want looking for a review, just sold your horses. I'll review it when I can review it in its entirety. I thought about getting it the other day for a flat screen review, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Much like the Game Lab console. I will wait. And I'll I will review this when the VR2 gets added, no matter how awkward that is for them or me, and how long that goes into 2026 before it gets announced. I'll wait. You can wait for the UCP review, goddamn me, Microsoft. Well wait until we get the full fat version of this so we can see it in VR. Because I think to me, bringing it to PS5, great, bringing it to Pro, brilliant. Bit boring, I suppose, in terms of it being exactly the same. But the VR is a new addition, and that needs to be talked about. So I'm quite excited to talk about that. Yeah, definitely. And as I say, another reason to just get off. But going back to my original statement, these ones are more curated, mission-based, get in the plane, tackle someone in the air, boom-boom, boom, boom, boom. It's a little bit more, maybe that kind of time to push fire timer, you know. You want the action. Sometimes games make you wait, and if you measure a game on its time between pressing start at the intro of the game and actually getting to press a button and have an input into your character, in some games that's hours, and in some games, like that return of investment of like when do I get the excitement? But the taking off in an airplane democracy simulator to some people, that's probably quite exciting. To some people, it's probably boring as all hell. So then it's like, what's coming next? What's next? What's next? Now they've got the missions and the tutorial bits, but I think some of these dog fighting games might be more your general player's cup of tea. Anyway, we move on. I've got I've got a bit of uh you've got a bit of news for us RGT. What you got?

SPEAKER_02: 54:21

Certainly have. This is over on the pure Xbox um by Ben Kerry.

SPEAKER_05: 54:27

And this is what's he bringing of the three holy things he could bring. If uh little oh yes, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_02: 54:38

Sammy brought Frank and Sense. Frank and Sense, so he's bringing myrrh. Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 54:47

And and a comment on Ben's height, if you could.

SPEAKER_02: 54:52

Oh, six foot six. Ben's a tall chap. Slam dunk the funk, yep.

SPEAKER_05: 54:59

I thought you were gonna say slam dunk the barker there. I thought he'd rolled him up into another bowl, bounced him off the backboard, rim shot straight in. Well done, Ben. What's he got to say for himself, anyway?

SPEAKER_02: 55:13

Um, this is Gears of War E Day, it's the coalition's most ambitious game yet, entirely built from scratch in Unreal Engine 5. Uh, as part of Xbox's end-of-year message for 2025, developer coalition told Xbox War that Gears of War E Day is the team's most ambitious game yet, as it strives to build an experience that feels like Gears and plays like new. Touching on what is most uh what it's most looking forward to in 2026, the longtime Gears dev briefly mentioned that next year it will be Gears of War's 20th anniversary before going on to say that E Day is a return to our roots and will be the best place to jump into the Gears universe. Here's the team's full message ahead of a big year for Gears of War. They went on to say, next year marks the 20th anniversary of Gears of War, and we can't think of a bigger way to celebrate than with the release of Gears of War E Day. This is our most ambitious game yet, entirely built from scratch in Unreal Engine 5 to feel like Gears and play like new. This is a return to our roots as Marcus and Dom face the locust for the first time ever. It is the best place to jump into the Gears universe, and we can't wait to share more next year. We recently got confirmation that EDay will be a 2026 title thanks to a new Games Pass ad at the Game Awards. But aside from that, we still know very little about the next Gears of War title. We've had one uh reveal trailer from the Xbox Game showcase in 2024, and that's about it so far. For now, then, all eyes are on Xbox Developer Direct in January, where Microsoft will reveal more about what's to come from its 2026 lineup. We know that Fable and Forza Dev Playground Games will be there. Um, but what about the coalition? Here's hoping they show up and give us a big blowout on Gears of War Eday next month. Very interesting. And I also think with this, they seem to have done a bit of a uh uh Rockstar and Red Dead, so to make the next game a prequel. So you haven't got to go back and play the other games first. You can jump straight in on this one, then go on to the others, and especially yourself, especially they've already remastered number one as well. You could play this and then go straight on to the remaster one. That's clever, clever how they've done it. But sounds good. I mean, I've got the Gears of Wars and I've dabbled with one a bit, but you know, it's one of that another one of those series I need to play through because I know Boba and a few others love the games. Um, I think this is brilliant. A great up, yeah. Uh I yeah, I'm looking forward to this. Um, definitely will be buying this. Is this are they going to be releasing this on PS5? Do you know?

SPEAKER_05: 58:01

Or well, I think that's kind of a couple of things I want to talk about for the coalition. This is a a great moment. It's uh a great moment to have a new, genuinely new product on the PlayStation. No questions asked their chance to to shine in the multi-formatum new era, I guess, RGT. So I think that's probably if I was a developer, it would sharpen sharpen my focus because this is about to get played elsewhere. This is going to get critiqued by players who have maybe looked at this franchise for a long time and have either had a little go on one, now we want to show them exactly what a new Gears War game looks and smells like on modern format, where it doesn't have to pay homage to uh an early 2000s or a mid-2000s um design layout based on the hardware of the machine at the time. We're now with this product can blow your socks off out the gates based on current gen hardware, doing all the good things that current gen hardware does, not only from a graphical point of view, but from a gameplay point of view as well. The fluidity of all of that, the ability to kind of do new things with the franchise while also then laying very nice story beats to pick up into one, as you say. This is a prequel product. Very clever, very well done. Uh, I think the idea behind it is fantastic. I think that the chance to it's got to be an exciting time at Xbox Studios because you've got to think to yourself, oh, you know, no longer are we making, and I mean this with all respect, no longer are we making games for the Xbox market, which in all deference to them is quite small. So then their limited return of players within that market is even smaller. So your skew of gamers within the Xbox Park is actually quite small, of the people that would, you know, hunch your game down on a shop shelf using the old school. Terminology. Now, all of a sudden, your pool of players is immeasurably larger, and the excitement behind that I think is something else. I mean, the multiplayer players that sort of then furnish your online modes is all of a sudden way more fleshed out. It's all of a sudden there's always a game, all of a sudden there's always someone to play with. All of a sudden, this finds a whole new audience. And you know, if you get some of these bits right, Helldivers 2 showed us this. You don't have to redesign the wheel, you just got to kind of make it fun. And all of a sudden, the game can take over for six months and then find a place in the zeitgeist that Helldivers never probably thought it was ever going to get. So, yeah, exciting times, exciting times for Xbox Studios, they're going to get the same kind of level of penetration on Fable as an example. So that's gone from being a game that a small subsection of the Xbox community would get to play to now being a game that a large subsection of the whole entire gaming community can play. I mean, it's got to be a great feeling, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_02: 1:01:16

Yeah, definitely. Um, and I think this again, like you say, it's gonna be for the studio themselves to actually now have rather than creating a game for Games Pass with very limited sales, because people uh you know, most of their their players were on Game Pass. You're now got a like you say, you're now got a chance to sell a game, bring more money in, which is obviously, I mean, it's almost like Xbox Game Studios and Xbox themselves are actually using the PlayStation to bring the revenue back in to do what they need to make and to help their system sell.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:50

I think there's a there's a shrewd strategy here as well at play where you just kind of need people to try your games. Maybe if they're kind of sick of PlayStation, the menu system, they've been PlayStation players since day one, they might want to come over. Oh, I never realized these games were this good. Maybe I should get one, maybe I'll just get one all in. You know, you you don't know how people react to a great game, you don't know how people react to a series they've never played before. I mean, the first time I I got gears at launch and was literally just having the socks blown off. It it OG gears on the 360 now probably looks a little bit tired, but when that thing was new, roadie cam, as it was called in game, Cliffy B all over it, like a hot rash, the whole thing was sexy as all hell. And don't forget the the advert uh mad world that was done around that sort of holiday period, put sort of Thanksgiving through to Christmas. Um really powerful, really set the hairs on the back of your neck. Like, and there's not been many video game TV ads before that had done that. And I had Gears 1, Gears 2, Gears 3. I think I played through all played through and finished all of them. Um fun titles for me, lacks the replayability of maybe uh an uncharted. Um, I think maybe the characters just shine through a little bit more. Um, totally different games. There's obviously the cover mechanics, so you could make some direct comparisons. Um gears is that gears is that hard, edgy, maybe trying a little bit too hard. Um, sort of cool older brother with his high maiden jacket on. And Uncharted's uh what is Uncharted? It's it's basically Jewel of the Nile, or uh what's the other one with Michael Douglas in it? Jewel of the Nile. Romance and the Stone. Romance and the Stone. To me, that's what they are, but they nail it, they nail the spirit. There's some romantic elements in there, so it's more of a multi-layered product to me. Gears is dark and it's very sci-fi edgy, and you'd think it'd be more Michael Petit, and I love it, but Drake's maybe edges it more. Uh, you know, we're not here to discuss that really. I mean, we're here to discuss this this new game from the coalition, and I think you know, very exciting times. Um, Gears of War seemed a little bit of a renaissance off that remaster as well. So now would be the time to do that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:20

I wonder if I've got to say, yeah, launch this. That'll then push probably a few more sales of that remaster of one again, and then maybe then do the remaster of two and then capitalise on the on the you know the the run of it at the time. So yeah, yeah, I think I'm definitely gonna get this.

SPEAKER_05: 1:04:37

I think we got quite deep into the Gears universe as it progressed, and you know, some of the ones on later systems look unbelievable. So, you know, check them out if you've got the ability to do that. Um there's plenty of in it's a kind of throw-it-on popcorn, you know. I can blitz through uncharted one in eight hours. I think that uh I think you could throw Gears One on in the morning and blitz through it in a similar time frame. So I think you'd you'd find a lot of enjoyment in that. A lot of enjoyment. Yeah, it's one of those sit-down, blow your ears out kind of Michael Bay efforts, which uh there's a lot to be said for that in gaming. Um last bit of news, RGT. If you've if you done with your Gears Awards, yes, yes, okay. Well, done, yeah. Okay, well, this is from a new name to me, Jim Norman, over at the bottom of the wheel, Nintendo Life, uh probably the left hand of Christ, if we're being honest, actually. Um it's Jim Norman. I see him as a just an average chap, really. You know, he's about he's 5'12, never made six foot. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's one of those, he's one of those cats. RGT, I think, just pulled in at the punchline station. Um now he's reporting on these uh Nintendo has a game key card alternative in the works with smaller Switch 2 carts. Now on the show, obviously RGT and I have moaned on about these virtual cards, and I kind of see a defense for them now. Uh, we've moaned on generally about the the price of these carts and the availability to publishers to get games out. Um little bit restrictive, so here we go. So earlier this week, we heard a rumour that Nintendo was working on a smaller Switch 2 cartridge, potentially giving publishers a cheaper alternative to the current decision between expensive 64 gigabit carts, gigabyte carts, and game keycards. Well, an update from ININ Games or Inin Games, depending on where you're from, reveals that the rumour may well be true. In an earlier report, which we'll get to, we mentioned that Inin had decided to go down the GKC route for the physical release of R-type dimensions to avoid having to significantly raise manufacturing costs. In a new blog post, the studio stated that two days ago Nintendo announced two smaller size cartridges for Nintendo Switch 2. So a so a full physical release is back on the menu.

SPEAKER_04: 1:07:23

Looks like our full physical release is back on the menu, boys.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:28

The entire European production of R-type Dimensions 3 for Nintendo Switch 2 released on a full physical cartridge. The blog post continued, though all retail and special edition prices will be 10 euros to account. Will increase by 10 euros to account for the still high production cost. The price bump will not apply to those who nab the special edition in the early pre-order phase. Post concludes with a message to thanks to all physical purists out there. We'd like to sincerely thank the community for the passionate discussion, the feedback, and the patience over the past days. Your enthusiasm for physical games and for R Type in particular made this solution possible. And we're very happy to be able to deliver a true cartridge release. We'll have to wait and see how many of the developers or publishers decide to utilize the smaller switch 2 cartridges in the future. But hey, at least a cheaper game key card alternative is on the table now. Now, in the early discussion, these rumoured smaller cartridges are going to be 16 and 32 FYI, and that frees things up because normally they were forced to be dedicated to the biggest one, which was the 64 gigabyte cartridge. RGT that draws the news to a close. But before we swing and song and dance out of here, give me your goddamn opinion. Because you have not been on the fence about Nintendo's uh carts choice this generation with the Switch 2. How do you feel about this slightly smaller hence, therefore uh go slightly more affordable smaller game cartridge setup?

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:06

Um obviously, with your triple A games, it's not gonna make too much difference because you know you're still gonna have key cards, you know, when you've got 70 gig games and they're trying to pull 80 gig games on a 64 gig card, obviously doesn't go, so that's still gonna be there. But for physical releases for your your double A's or your you know your indie games, this could be very good for the consumer because you can now get those physicals if you're still into your physical games. Um, because a lot of these were you know, a lot of these developers, especially smaller studios who are you know it's quite easy for them to release on the Switch, but when when they were forced to buy the high expense of a 64 gig cart didn't make financial sense, this now means oh hang on, you know, those 16 gig ones, if we're just running a five, six gig game, yeah, that releases at 15 bucks, we could, you know, digitally we could sell this for 20 bucks physical, and you know, it it's it's a great way. So I think it's a win-win for everyone, really. I'm glad Nintendo have they don't tend to backtrack too much, they do tend to be, well, hang on, this is what we're done, you do it. But now they have backtracked a bit on this, which I think is fair play.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:10

Um mate, based on the install games I've had on the Switch 1 and the Switch 2, the 64 gigabyte was you know, Cyberpunk, yeah. I understand. Star Wars Outlaws, although I think that's the game key, but yeah, I understand. Um, some of the other titles that you've got uh from the Switch 2, Donkey Kong Bonanza, yeah. Do you know what? I understand it. But some of these smaller indie games that probably struggle to get to 10 gigabytes. Yeah. Uh that that that makes no sense to the studio, let alone to the consumer. One thing I would like to see from this maybe slightly lower, slightly, I don't know what the knock-on costs are because obviously these publishers are buying them in their millions, they're not buying just 10 or 20 of these little plastic things, they're buying millions of these things, or certainly hundreds of thousands of these things for publications across the world. Obviously, there's an economy of scale there. Will we see that passed on to us as a consumer? I would like to hope so, because obviously the switch to$69.99 up a threshold now seems to be would be a little egregious if it was going to be a 10 gig indie game on a 16 gig cart. That starts to sort of grind a bit. I know that we've seen various pricing on the switch to already, uh, not only on the digital sales that are on, and and there's a significant one taking place as of release of this episode. So get on there if you've grabbed a Switch 2 or someone you know is getting a Switch 2 for Christmas, you could set up an online account and buy those games now, just as a heads up, or you know, Christmas Day, maybe I even think um the Final Fantasy VII remake for Switch 2.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:59

I think that was only 40 bucks coming out. So right, okay. I mean, that's yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:04

There's lots of um there's lots of little bits like that. Final Fantasy Pixel Collection is on there. I I know that that's done remarkably. I was reading an article the other day saying that that had sort of blown away with the success that that's received. Um it was a high price for what you've got. I bought it digitally. Probably wish I bought it physical now, but I bought it digitally and uh it's nice to have them all in one place. It won't be the first time I've had them all in one place, I have to admit. So it's a little bit grating, but hey, hey, hey, we've got them now. Um but yeah, so anyway, to circle back, it's nice to see these options becoming available. It's nice this early in the Switch's life that they've made these options available because by the time the Switch 2 rolls around to its death roes, I like to think we'll be seeing some interesting deals being cut, some interesting games making it to the marketplace that are coming in at a good price, uh, and benefiting, as you say, RGT has always just sum it up so nicely, benefiting everybody.

SPEAKER_02: 1:13:14

Yeah, yeah, I think this is a great move. And um I think also I think Nintendo have been thinking that the the Switch 2 games have been very sort not slow, but they haven't been coming out as quick as they would like them to be, especially with the success of the console. So let's get some more physical games out, let's get some, you know, let's make it easier for these companies to get their games on a physical as well, and you know, we can then start getting more and more of these games out in the marketplace.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:42

Think of all the PS4 era games that the Switch missed out on that are right to be put there now for in some cases if it's sexy enough, you know, the full 70 books and make no bones about it, and we go, Oh yeah, I've got to have that. That would be great to take that on the go. I can hear it now haunting me. Go, go, go, go, go. As you buy this game for the fifth time, time, time, time. So you can have it on the go. Go, go, go, go. Only to realise after getting 20 minutes into it that you sick, sick, sick of it, because you've already played it five, five, five, time, time, time, time, time.

SPEAKER_02: 1:14:24

Because now you say that, that's got me thinking as well. Um, I've never I've never thought of it like that because obviously the switch original switch couldn't really run those PS4 titles or didn't run those PS4 titles. There's a massive library there that could be popped onto the Switch 2. You adjust causes and games like that. Yeah, there's a just give the Switch 2 everything you gave.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:49

I mean, they didn't give the Switch 1 the full fat of the 360 PS3 era that they could have done. They could have done a lot more. But the PS4 era, the Xbox One era was chock full of third-party bangers.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:07

That could white easily end up on Switching. You'd feel like an absolute stud, may I say? Force Awakens. That would be a great game to take on the go.

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:21

Yeah, that would be, yeah. Oh, that's got me thinking now, and all them um when they done them original Tomb Raiders, Rise of the Tomb Raiders, all those, be great on the go.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:32

Didn't they just recently bring out the first one on the go on Switch 2?

SPEAKER_02: 1:15:38

Um I don't know. The first of that reboot. Maybe they have.

SPEAKER_05: 1:15:41

Oh, I've seen that. Oh, they might have done, yeah. Yeah, but you're right, that sort of era of game would be incredible. Obviously, we're getting the Yakuzas on there now, so they're great games to take on the go. One thing I would love to see, Saber, if you're listening, if you're listening, it would be absolutely beautiful if you could reward us with the Shemu trilogy. Yeah, uh do a special edition as well. With the yeah, yeah, I'm glad you're listening, right? In a in the light blue, uh PAL DC case, Shemu trilogy, use the original artwork on the front. Boom, one to the left, in the middle two. Don't disturb me, RGT. On the right, three, on the side, the switch logo in white, perfect at the top where the Dreamcast logo would have gone. She trilogy down the side. In it, what looks like two GD ROM boxes. Beautiful in their almost immaculate their GD ROM boxes, but inside you've actually made it so the little switch holders, boom, little switch disc holders. I'm loving this, and maybe do a fourth one. Uh passports, I don't know, just do a little nod to something. Just give me a you know, I want to see it. Wrapped in a little card sleeve. Beautiful. Wrap that up, present that to me. Name your price. 600 quid. I'll pay it. Wow. I want a poster, I want one of those exercise.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:19

You paid that for a PSVR2, so yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:17:22

I want a this this is the sweetener, Sega. This is a sweetener. I want a poster that I'm never gonna look at. I'm probably only gonna unfold it once. As I fold it back up about 75% into the fold, I'm gonna realise I fold one of the sheets the wrong way. I'm gonna then go bright red, sweat, thinking I've broken it, calm, refold, pack it away. That was too dangerous an experience to mess with that limited edition collectible poster that I'm never gonna look at, get out, or even let sunlight see again. I better put that down. Let me look at the coin in the bag.

SPEAKER_02: 1:17:59

How do they do it? They do cloth posters. They cloth posters.

SPEAKER_05: 1:18:05

One thread of that comes off on the side. No, no. I've got a coin in a small baggie, it's just a heat shrinked baggie, right? But instead of opening this coin, I just want to look at it through the baggie probably twice and then put it down. I probably want a limited edition of figure in a box sealed with tape at the top. You want to open it at the bottom that I really want to open and display, but I just can't bring myself to because I haven't touched the other stuff. Um yeah. And I think it feels wrong. It feels wrong, and then a CD soundtrack that it comes on a CD, a bit retro, but I like it. I don't really have a CD player, so that will stay sealed, but I will try and hunt down the soundtrack on Apple Music or Spotify so I can listen to it. Well, I'm gonna add it to a playlist. Let's face it. So yeah, please. I'll what I'll tell you what, Sager. I'll just give you 600 quid. If you want to get on board with that RGT, let me know. I can see you going for at least not unboxing the statue. Um I know Rose Space and Uncle by two. One to open, one to ravage like a Viking warrior. Well, that's four, so that's worth a print run. I would think you're right. If limited no, not you. No, not you, because you're gonna put your name on the box. I want you to know, I want you back back up. Sega can do this. They handled Sonic Tuesday, dude. This will be fine. Yeah. Easy. Uh when was the last time I played Shen Yu? So that'll just sit up on the shelf. There you go. I actually downloaded it on the PS4 to start playing through because it was Christmas time. Um yeah, I ought to finish it on there, really. It'd be decent. Think of all the Yakuzas I've played, Dream and Shen Meu. I've got Shen Meu, and it's like, nah. I'd rather be Kiriyu now, you've blown it. Too little, too late. A bit, yeah. Uh a lot, yeah. What's next? I think we've I think I've got a bit carried away there. Um, but we've done the news, we've done them in the very darkest regions of the internet. Um on there, I found a picture of you and Prince Andrew looking at an edition of K's catalogue, 1987. I don't know why you were there. It's a it's a worry because my previous co-host, OG Tom, he also had a little bit of a dalliance with the former Prince. So uh the art the the the artist formerly known as Prince. I mean, I didn't think I'd see two of those in my lifetime.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:09

Wow. We were talking about Shemu a minute ago.

SPEAKER_05: 1:21:14

Write that down and give it to a proper comedian because he could deliver in a way I could never deliver. Could you do a military Prince Andrew on it? The form of the artist formerly known as Prince.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:27

Oh, I I don't know if I could do that. Yeah, I'm not sure they'll get away with that. I'm writing this down as well. We need an AI image of this.

SPEAKER_03: 1:21:45

Wow.

SPEAKER_02: 1:21:48

Right.

SPEAKER_05: 1:21:49

Yeah, our t-shirt idea. Perfect, fine. Get the very best people on it. Um before we go any further, since it's a Christmas period, I'd like to think that I've been on and thanked all the people that are directly involved with the show. Um but um if you're listening, you probably only listen to the shows you're on, but um Scotty, couldn't do the show without you. Hope you're well. Um looking forward to getting you back in studio again sometime soon. Same to you, Seb, you cheeky little scoundrel. Um we miss you, but we've got some exciting news for you listeners coming from January, where I think uh Seb will be taking on a more sort of permanent fixture role. So we'll see him on the main show in the evolution going forward, which is great news for not only the show, but you as listeners. So we wish you a very uh Merry Christmas to both of you. A big thank you to you, RGT, and your wonderful family that support you as you support me and basically carry the weight of the whole show on your shoulders while I sort of dally around telling him too tired to even record, darling. I am exhausted, and you must think you think you're exhausted, Panio. You ain't got a clue. But uh 100% for people is uh different day to day for different people. So um fair play to you, sir, for being the Hercules of the show. No problem in 2025. Um, I don't know about that. It's not gone unnoticed.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:18

Um it's barely gone noticed, but you know I thought you'd only gonna announce I've got a promotion. No, you know, executive executive producer.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:30

No, I well, if you want to be assistant to the executive producer, you can do that if you want as well.

SPEAKER_02: 1:23:36

But the caveat does mean that you now have to take on the Poncebury grounds, so you have to cut the croquet lawn.

SPEAKER_05: 1:23:43

You have to cut because I want a I want a good croquet season this year. I want it to be the lawn has taken on your best year this year. No, the lawn has taken on a little bit too much moss, and it kind of just Yeah, it it makes for a tactical game, but it just slows your balls down a bit too much. It does.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24:02

Um I noticed the the way your balls are rolling, they were just held up, you weren't getting that length, you were just they were just getting stuck, you know.

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:11

Yeah, you you play this on you play this on other people's lawns, and you get yourself lined up with a hole and um get both balls through it, no issues at all. You know, you can play force or on mine, it's a little bit more you've got to nudge about the way, so it's like instead of just one hit and in, it's a kind of a little tap and then bam.

SPEAKER_02: 1:24:33

Um yeah, you speed through the the ground's heavy, you know, the ball sits there, and that's that's deep, that's almost really deep, that's not sitting on top, you know, so you have to give it extra pressure to really you know get it through. Not good. Have you ever at croquettes anyway?

SPEAKER_05: 1:24:57

Sorry? Have you ever at croquettes? The little um breaded potato. Yeah. How are they spelt differently to croquet? Cool.

SPEAKER_02: 1:25:14

I don't know. I don't even know what we're on this subject.

SPEAKER_05: 1:25:16

I I just in my head I loaded up croquet, and then at the same just on the side sub tab menu, it was croquet, and I clicked on it in my brain, loaded up a picture of a breaded potato product on a car. Why is that here? Oh, it's kind of spelt the same, or is it? What is that? I'm not sure. Messages on a postercard to Ponsbury Towers or questions at unofficialcontrollerpodcast.com. What is a croquette? And why is it the way it is? You tell me. Um I don't know how we've got a side ramble of croquet. Uh well, yeah, I want I want a good season. I want a good season, RGT. So I want the lawn, I want it sanded, I want it sanded, I want moss killer, I want new seed. I want seed all over it, really. Your seed. I want you to suck some.

SPEAKER_02: 1:26:06

Yeah, I've got some really good seed as well. No, I've got some really good seed that will especially that moss, that'll sink in deep my seed. Clear that out. Anywho, don't forget if you have any uh any questions or uh community corrections this week. Questions I don't know about.

SPEAKER_05: 1:26:28

I want to change the show up a little bit, and I want you to ask us all sorts of questions like gardening questions, if genuinely you want to know how deep RGT seed sinks in uh in a millimeter sort of ratio. I also want to know that. So make sure you ask us these questions. And I want it to be a little bit more fun and interactive in 2026. Um, I mean, we can have fun with anything. You send in a picture of a picture of Hessian, and I'm sure we could uh build a show around it if you really wanted us to. If you want to get in touch with the show RGT, you could do it through the medium of Twitter, aka X, the subhuman toxicity dunk that I love to check in on to make myself realize that I'm not that bad really. Um, also Instagram, a place where people post up pictures wanting praise and interaction while giving zero praise and interaction to everybody else. I don't know what works, how that works. I don't know what goes on there. Uh but enjoy that. It's an interesting place. It's where we've got the most followers, so I probably shouldn't um shit on it too much. Um, we've also got that um really great platform. It's called Discord. Oh, yeah, we got one of those. I'm not gonna overplay it. I'm just gonna say if you want, there's a link on Instagram or Twitter. So you've got to go to a dirty place to get a clean link, okay? But this is how it works in the modern world. You've got to do a little bit of dirty to get a little bit of clean. So go on there, there's a link, click on it. I think actually on the bottom of the episode, there's also a link tree. Check it out, have a search around, click on there, it'll take you to the Discord, you'll emerge, you'll be welcomed by the assemble thousands. They're gonna tell you how great you are, how good you look, quite remarkably how great you smell. Because you let's face it, listener. I mean, you smell great this morning. You look great. You're probably wondering how does he know? And I just do. You know, all our listeners are beautiful, but inside and out, addressed to the nines, even when they're in a PlayStation Schnood and four-day old pants. They look great. Speaking from personal experience, four-day old pants.

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:43

There's something about them that you know you ought to change a ball, but they'll go another day.

SPEAKER_02: 1:29:01

They'll go another day. By the way, he's wearing his PlayStation Snooze, so I think he's might be talking from experience at the moment.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:07

I've got no one coming around. No one cares. I can decontaminate myself when I need to enter back into public circles. They'll go another day. They'll go another day.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:20

They'll go another day.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:22

I'm only wearing really wearing them mainly at night, so wearing them during the day is also fine. They're like my bed pants now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:29:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:29:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:29:32

Yeah. They're a different coloured to what I first started, but they're your bedpants.

SPEAKER_05: 1:29:36

Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. For the record, let's play it. Let's play this one now. That's oh I can't even make any some days. Yeah, yeah. Oh no, no, no. Discord, yeah, in there, all the nice bits. We also do another show. It's called Flashback. This show and flashback are always going to be free. You're always going to be able to get them at the same time as everybody else. No bars to entry. But should you like what you hear? Should you think, you know what? These boys just saved me from filling my boss in this morning because RGT said something about his seed sinking in. And I've gone from wanting to fill him in to wanting to just kind of let it go. You could equate a value of your yearly salary to that. All we're asking is three dollars. I'm from Britain. I'm from Sweden. Don't worry. You trade at the three dollars, which means it only probably cost you one corona, 75 euros, and us in the UK probably 2.80. It's nothing. And you know what? We have got this special deal running right now where I have said no matter what tier you get in at, even the£2.80 tier, aka three dollars, I will send you a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_02: 1:31:07

F what it comes with love when you say you send in a t-shirt. Chill it out.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:13

I was just about to explain exactly.

SPEAKER_05: 1:31:17

When I say it comes from me, it comes with love from me, but probably actually touched by a, and I insist on this, a gloved RGT. He's not what I would call a voracious hand washer, he's not unclean, like he'll do, he'll wash after a poo, you know, he might wash after a wee, but he's one of those guys that turns around and says, Listen, mate, mum told me not to piss on my hands. All right, RGT, you're a big guy, you're a big slab of beef. I don't want to mess. But when you're handling the listener's products, you know, especially ones that they because you know, we all like we all like to suck on our collars every once in a while, don't we? You know, get a little bit kind of overloaded and we start sucking on our collars. Just as kids. We do it now as adults. Just for a little bit of relief. I guess you don't suffer from any stress or anxiety, hence why you're the executive associate producer of the show.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:16

No, no, I'm not saying that, but I'm not a I'm not a collar sucker.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:21

Mrs. RGT said that she'd you'd never actually done that. I was like, wow, what never? She said, No, I've never seen that in all the time that we've been together.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:33

Yeah. Yeah, I've never done that. Yeah. Maybe something I should try.

SPEAKER_05: 1:32:39

Just back yourself into a corner, slap that collar and cuff in your mouth, and have a good go on it. Just rag it. You you just chill outside.

SPEAKER_02: 1:32:49

Oh wow, I thought you'd I was about to speak then, but I can see this going down a very dangerous. What were you thinking to say? No. Let's just do the subs list.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:01

No, because everyone now is gonna want to know what you were gonna say.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:06

No, I'm not taking it down. We said we're gonna be a bit cleaner on the show, and I'm being cleaner. So I'm gonna start the subs list, and we're gonna start with the wonderful. Can I say by the way, that you look?

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:19

You came in looking wing bashed and bedraggled. Your face looked like you climbed Mount Everest, and now you've kind of I accused you of being.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:28

I looked like I stood behind your gritter.

SPEAKER_05: 1:33:31

You did, and and now you're looking, you know, normal RGT again. You've got your youthful kind of physique and looks back, you hair's sort of calmed down a bit, you you've sort of your whole face has softened. You look like a man that's ready to that's ready to to game.

SPEAKER_02: 1:33:52

Do I? I feel like a man that's ready to go to bed. I don't do that. But on the list, thank you though. Um next up, I'll say next up.

SPEAKER_05: 1:34:03

Actually, I got confused mid-minute mid-thank you, didn't I? Actually, no, because I've got a special thank you for I give you a special thank you, I give Seb a special thank you, I give Scotty a special thank you. I want to do a special thank you to OG Tom and Bobby uh in this festive time of the year. I hope you're both well. Uh and look forward to uh seeing you return to the show soon. Uh, I also want to thank Captain Scarlet for his great work behind the scenes on the new to be announced website, or the website we announced many years ago that died on its arse, uh, because we we didn't know what we were doing, basically. A couple of uh couple of boys in a man's world, and we couldn't even get it to look as good as CFAC. So hopefully Captain Scarlet stepped in and done some wonderful things. But I also it wouldn't be right and proper if I didn't thank the good old Winchester boys, and by them I mean Digital Munkery and Boba Lova, who will get a readout in this, obviously, because they paid for it. Uh but behind the scenes work very hard, Digital Munkery on the Challenge Accepted program on the Discord where you can go play some of your favourite old school games and win stickers and prizes. I'll be honest with you. Does it get any better than that? No. Um, do you have to be to a very good standard? Yes, you I'm afraid you do. Uh highly contested uh read the Discord. Uh, one of the most active parts of it. Uh so straight out the gates, RGT, you or I are gonna do Captain Scarlet senseless up against the wall. Who is it? Me or you?

SPEAKER_02: 1:35:39

Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna start this week and I'm gonna say thank you, Captain Scarlet. And like you said, just to uh back up what you said, um yeah, wonderful work. Um he's some of the stuff he's done, one I'd have never been able to do, and if I ever did teach myself to do, it would have taken me a year that he's done in a matter of weeks. So well done. Absolutely well done. So brilliant.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:00

Um next, a man who made us our awesome YouTube short recently. Uh, I love it. He did us a little promo for flashback that was very much in the spirit of it, uh, and perfect in every way, and shot out the gates and did hundreds of views in in an hour. So uh he's obviously got that special source that we don't have because uh retrohodes videos are more popular than our own on our channel, which is odd. Uh another man whose videos are insanely more popular on the YouTube channel than our own. It's Carlos. He made some shorts for us during our little competition. Uh yeah, just sit down because what I'm doing is I'm sinuously tying this up in a way of saying thank you, but also throwing in what I would call the element of chaos. Because no, you're just trying to do the old switch. No, I'm not, I'm not. Yes, she was. No, listen, I'm not clever for that, but I'm blindly turning this into a Pell Mel battle by introducing chaos. And then it's more exciting for us. Okay. So Carlos, the one man George fan club, he was absolutely incredible. He did a round of videos for us during our uh content YouTube short challenge. He won himself a full price game. Can't now remember what he chose, but uh was it Donkey Hong Bonanza we got him? I think it's Star Wars, wasn't it? Wasn't it Star Wars Outlaws? Oh yeah, was it Star Wars Outlaws? It maybe was. And the other winner, HG Games, he got himself a copy of the Metal Gear Solid trilogy. Uh, you would imagine that would be a pretty decent return on investment. He did a quick, you know, 30-second video. I'll tell you someone else who gives you a damn good return. It's firm returns. He'll take your money and triple it every which way, but Sunday. You'll find it over on X, the site formerly known as Twitter, where he's giving out some of the best advice I've ever seen. And he invests in this show. Hang on a minute, George. The very guy who's making millions from investing in the stocks markets is going to advise you on how to become from a tramp to a Trump in a day. He invests in your show. Yeah, you're right. So guess what? If you think you're getting a firm return everywhere else, you're not getting a full firm return. Unless you you're a UCP supporter, right? RGP. Exactly, yeah. Say you're someone who's supported the show for a long time. I mean, really, since day one. First email the show ever received was a gentleman called Roastface Monk. He's now woven himself into the fabric of the show. I love him. I love the smell of him. He's a very handsome man. He's almost got the look of I don't know. He's got the look, he's got the air of a European gentleman. Some would say, if you were to argue this, that Italian men have got a little bit of style, a little bit of sexiness, a little bit of handsomeness about them. Roast based monk exudes it. I tell you someone else who exudes it because we know his genetic DNA originates from Italy itself.

SPEAKER_02: 1:38:56

It's about a you don't want to forget trestles in that though, do you? I don't care about trestles. Oh wow. Yeah. Wow, okay. Yeah. Well, I'll just say thank you, Trestles of New York, but you carry on with your better bingster.

SPEAKER_05: 1:39:11

I was trying to weave this into like a full work through without breath where I linked sinuously from one to the next. I I screwed up because you're right, I missed out trestles. Next time, maybe we do the read-through like that, but now it's your turn. So Badabinkster, ciao to Yes, thank you, Badabinster.

SPEAKER_02: 1:39:35

Then we've got Tingle Tuna. Um, as always, the uh wonderful JRP legend uh JRP, JRPG legend, Nintendo. I mean the man is a curious absolutely fantastic. Then we've got DM. Well, it's uh what I really shouldn't say, it's wrecked. God damn Winchester boys. Hang on a minute. Payoff is The table, I love it. Yeah, digital monger, and as I will back up what George said, absolutely wonderful for all what you've done and keep doing, absolutely brilliant. But who's this skating in in the background? It's ball border. Absolutely brilliant. Look at that. Yep. Ollie kickflip is done one of your invert 360s, whatever that is. Well done. So we just heard the show. Yes. Yeah. And now we're going to have to do it all over again. Yeah, absolutely fantastic. Oh, hang on. Who's this? Rex. It's the other goddamn Winchester boy.

SPEAKER_05: 1:40:33

It's called them Texan Rex. Or did I dream that I named them Texan Rex?

SPEAKER_02: 1:40:37

No, you did name them Rex and Tex. Is that a thing that actually happened? Yes, you did. Yeah, you did do that, yeah. But thank you very much, Boba, as always. Or Texas, as I should say. Oh, I need this next one. You do need this next one.

SPEAKER_05: 1:40:54

Yeah, I've took him before. I feel like I've come from the behind here and took him again. But I'm gonna keep taking him because he's my son. He's my red-headed stepson. So whatever you thought I was saying, you think, hang on a minute, George, that's a bit edgy. He's not that edgy, really. Um, me and his mum aren't really any together any longer, so he's just a person to me. So but not just a person to me. I love him like a father should love a son. Every time I see an image of him, every time I see what he's doing for him and his family. I don't think I could be prouder. And when you see him with his shirt off, laying some patio slabs out the round out round the back of Anti Vera's. I'll be honest with you. Even I sucked hard on that diet coke when it got passed to me.

SPEAKER_03: 1:41:43

Oh my good god. Oh, shook the can.

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:49

BAM! Everywhere. Auntie Vera, she was oasing herself down on it. Ginge didn't know what to do with himself. But I'll tell you one thing, we had a great time. Thank you for supporting us, Ginge. You're an absolute legend. Seeing as I'm here, in amongst all this diet and mess is a nostalgic look at uh Christmas television. Or at least a look through the Radio Times at the very least. It's Harvey Retro. He's come in. He's designed a very iconic artwork that looks like the Goonies that you're looking at now as you drive or stare at your foe, wishing you were somewhere else. Wondering why in your life you chose to pick this podcast on this particular bus journey. Let me have a look at this artwork. Yeah, it's as he described it. Still two stops to go. I don't know why I put put a podcast on when I get on the bus, to be honest, because I never listen to it. I just look out the window, making sure that it's stopping all the places that I think it needs to stop, and then counting down the stops until I get off.

SPEAKER_02: 1:42:50

I don't just some random northern bloke talking about croquet and croquettes. So yeah. So next up then we have thank you, Harvey, by the way. We have the wonderful empty. That was almost like one of my solos that that little moment. Who's that? That was I won't say her name because she'll speak again, but it's a famous Amazon product.

SPEAKER_05: 1:43:13

Emma Sharp?

SPEAKER_02: 1:43:15

No, but it was it came on Q, but it was actually my uh Amazon uh voice assistant. And I don't know where that's picked that up from. Um, but yes, anyway, thank you, Harvey. So yeah, on to Emma Sharp. Wonderful Emma, as always. Thank you very much. Um, I'm glad you uh enjoyed your new job.

SPEAKER_05: 1:43:32

So uh brilliant, and thank you as always, which also moves us on to well, her new job as international unofficial controller podcast promoter to the stars. Yes, yes. Sorry we had to reduce the font, it's just that big a title that it had it was going to go onto the back of the card. Um and no one's just no one just wants stars on a random piece of white card.

SPEAKER_02: 1:43:55

No, but we did do them in gold leaf, so I didn't know the fine. Okay, yeah, you still you still owe those gold leaf cards, they were nine pounds each. So I had a thousand cards.

SPEAKER_05: 1:44:06

Clearing the show's debts now at the end of the year. This year has been uh an interesting experience. Yeah, it's quite the beast now, the show. Yeah, uh it's quite the beast. Who's next?

SPEAKER_02: 1:44:20

Oh yes, we have speaking about travelling, we move on to someone that isn't nowhere near Berlin. It is Greg himself. Thank you very much, Greg. Long time supporters.

SPEAKER_05: 1:44:31

I think if you if you cook Greg now, he'll look like a bit of Battenberg cake, you know, the window cake. Like, white pink, pink, you know, you know. I don't know exactly if that's right, but I would love to try it. Wow. Okay. Who we got next? Nowhere near Battenberg. Up next is someone who loves and prepares one of the finest Battenbergs known to Matt. It's Mumsy.

SPEAKER_02: 1:44:57

Yes, definitely does. Thank you, Mumsy. Then we've got the wonderful RGT fan club. As always, thank you so much. Brilliant.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:08

Pete Brocklehurst stumbles in the door. He's absolutely wasted. He's been supping on a combination of white lightning and very cheap vodka. I think actually might be mess, but he ain't bothered. No, he's coming out on his cornflakes. Mate, he's coming wearing a Christmas jumper he found in a charity shop, which, to be honest, should have gone in the bin four Christmases ago. He's wearing a Santas hat that he looks like he stole from a small kid on the way out of school on Friday. And on the bottom half, he's wearing what looks like a pair of woman's hot pants he got from one of the other charity shops on the high street. He's not the sort of person you'd want to mess with, especially considering he's wearing a pair of red stilettos.

SPEAKER_02: 1:45:54

Wow, what an image. But thank you, Pete. Next up, we have the silent but violent, but love him or hate him. It is Billy Marmite.

SPEAKER_05: 1:46:05

I actually wanted this. I actually wanted this, which is why I introduced the chaos at the start, because I thought you were gonna let you gonna fall on your soul, but didn't want this.

SPEAKER_02: 1:46:13

So give it to me. Right. This week, you've gave me an idea just from this show, right? Monday morning. Right? You feeling a little bit dopey, you get up in the morning, you're feeling a bit off, bit groggy, getting ready for work. Early bit of post comes through the door. You think, oh, oh, what's this? What's this? It's quite long, but it's you know, it's got it's got a little bit of length to it, a little bit of girth. You put that on a letterbox, when you open it up, you think, oh, you start getting a little bit excited. Oh, what's this? Some someone sent me something. This is from Sega. Sega at Japan have sent me something. Oh, oh my god. You open it up, and it is a one-of-one collector's set of Shenmu in a Dreamcast style, and there's only been one printed, and there's a little note inside just saying, Thanks for your support on the show, George, from everyone at Sega International. And that's just at that moment when you just finish reading that note, you explode. Okay, full geef. So as you're unwrapping it, you're sort of going, fat's hand, that's it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:47:30

And then when you realize what it is and what they've done for you, if I may full geef directly, I don't mean to interrupt that, but I would like the freedom to have the cameras rolling. I want you to come on a journey with me through the groggy wake up, the sound of the flap, the parcel, and then the Zangeef.

SPEAKER_03: 1:47:52

Am I permitted that? Yep.

SPEAKER_02: 1:47:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:47:57

So action when you're ready, I'll get myself on my on my queue. Do we give away too much of this when we do this action for Zangeef? Did we give away too much that we're not actually really George or RGT or Sepp or Scotty and that we're actually actors playing?

SPEAKER_02: 1:48:12

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:13

I don't think so. For some reason we've decided that the most comedic thing that we could do is make a show about video games that's not that's that is or isn't that mainly is the story of these weird characters show hosts and their surrounding lives. Is that normal?

SPEAKER_02: 1:48:31

Yeah, no, I I don't think we do. No, it's good. It's good, it gives them a little insight. But that's not true, is it? I mean we're just yeah, we're just idiots. Anyway.

SPEAKER_03: 1:48:42

You ready? Hang on, action. Shit. Okay. Edit this out, make it look good. Okay, I didn't you called me out. Oh god, don't stop with this, just keep rolling. Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:51

Quite often I methods just straight into crying out of emotion. It's quite hard to method in the show for three hundred shows has been probably one of the most challenging actori things I've ever done.

SPEAKER_02: 1:50:10

Um my character slips more often than I mean, especially when you think you don't actually really play games.

SPEAKER_05: 1:50:20

Never have a control in your life. Yeah, yeah. Um, I mean that's half the reason why it's called the unofficial control. But uh I don't know if anyone obviously we're here for video game news. That's what we're here for.

SPEAKER_03: 1:50:38

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_05: 1:50:44

Anything else that you've got to say, or do I just need to slap you straight on the back of your swords with the immortal phrase? What thing is what are you hoping to play?

SPEAKER_02: 1:51:07

Um bit more illusions of time, um, definitely more uh T2Df um no fate. Um we have little run throughs on that, that's really teaf.

SPEAKER_05: 1:51:20

Um are you actually officially making out that's the abbreviation of that game now? Because I think that could be I actually think that could be yeah, mate. That's a that's that's an exclusive for us. So I feel like that's cutting edge. If you can get that naming convention out of the forums to def two deep, t2 def.

SPEAKER_02: 1:51:46

Do it, but yeah, I'll be playing more to def. Um t2 deef. Um that sounds like a rap group from the 90s. T2 def.

SPEAKER_05: 1:52:01

Yes, and that's why we're the best gaming show in the world.

SPEAKER_02: 1:52:05

Yeah, I'll say a bit more illusion to time, um, some more Luigi's Mansion over on the Switch. Um, and as like I say, I have downloaded literally as we've recorded now, I've downloaded PS5 version of Final Fantasy VII. So hopefully now I can grasp the combat a bit and play that wonderful story. So I think that's probably what I will be on this week. What about you, Lynn?

SPEAKER_05: 1:52:29

Do you have the game that you have pre-selected for the Christmas period? Historically, I've picked things like Batman Arkham Origins, things like that. Give you a little bit of the Christmas theme, give you a little bit of the Christmas feeling. Is there anything within the rotational you might insert within your rotation of a game that has that sort of spirit of Christmas for you? This is ultimately to be argued the Christmas episode, and I have to only get angry with myself because this is the only Christmas thing content within it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:53:06

Hmm. Yeah, true. I was thinking that myself from a recording. Yeah, this is the Christmas one, actually. Um, I keep thinking about I know it hasn't got a Christmas theme in it, but I like to play something as familiar at Christmas and something that I can relax to because I know the story a bit. I know that sounds weird. That's nice to have new games. Um, but I think I can see Red Dead Redemption, the PS5 version, being a game that I might sink time into. Although I haven't got much time off at Christmas, it's still nice to have that game in the background, and I think that'll be a mixture of that and maybe the Final Fantasy 7 remake.

SPEAKER_05: 1:53:40

I think so wanna have to go into UCP Towers and change the bucket, mate.

SPEAKER_02: 1:53:47

Yeah, and that was you exactly, yeah. So and I'm on night watchman duty, so so I forgot about that. But in between emptying the bucket and doing a loop around the ground.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:02

The night watchman. You can let him do that. He's good at that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:54:05

Yeah, but Ray, yeah, but things always go missing when Ray's there. That's that's you lost all your croquet rings last time. That's fine. He ended okay. Oh dear.

SPEAKER_03: 1:54:22

I don't know why, but I decided he'd use them as flash stretchers. Wow.

SPEAKER_02: 1:54:30

Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:33

I know I mean Ray, Ray always finds a use for stuff, so exactly. Yeah, exactly that. That's what I thought. Fair play to him. Been in the family hundred years, but you do what you please.

SPEAKER_02: 1:54:47

So, what you hope to play in? Are you have you got a Christmas game lined up, boy?

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:51

Uh no, um, no. Um I am rolling around in a pit of PS2 goodness at the moment. I think I may throw in some titles to that. Like just now I've got this insane urge out of nowhere for no reason whatsoever, makes no sense to me, nor to anybody, to start playing the 007 games on PlayStation 2. I have no, I have no idea why.

SPEAKER_02: 1:55:16

Um that is really weird because literally today at work, I was thinking of playing 007 Nightfire and starting that. No, what I tell you what, great minds, great minds, look.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:28

Well, let's face it, we're gonna bounce off it after five minutes because the controls are so exactly, but the yeah, but the idea was there. The idea was there. To be honest, you probably spent more time and aura farming while you were picking the game down off the shelf, reading it, looking on the back of it, dusting off the PS2, opening the drawer, closing the drawer. I'm gonna open it again. I'm gonna get the game out, put it in, close, unroll the controller, plug it in, set that up, pick up the remote, set it to compound. Yeah, okay, we're on. Burnout burnout bow. Awesome. I'll I'll let that warm up. I'll go make myself a brew, making a brew. You're like, yeah, it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_02: 1:56:20

You walk through, you make your brew, and then down and you get the first little bit, and then you realise that as a first person shooter that I used triangle and X4 to move left and right, and you suddenly eject it back out of the case of the console, put it in the case, back on the shelf. Yeah, but rarely it should either go with the bin or the tray pile. Yeah, and then someone says, You ever played Nightfall? That's a great game. Oh, you never played that, yeah. Great game, yeah, great game. Am I the real sauce? Unusual control technique. Oh, it didn't bother me, yeah, it didn't bother me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:56:53

If the came out, I got on them relatively early doors around launch and played the wheels off of them. Nightfire surprised me. I think is that the first one or is Agent Nother Fire the first one? Agent Nother Fire might be the first.

SPEAKER_02: 1:57:05

Is Nightfire the one where you sort of start early on with a sort of snow scene and you have to sort of take them people out of a sniper rifle and get into that base? Is that nightfire?

SPEAKER_05: 1:57:13

Might be, yeah. And I think Agent.

SPEAKER_02: 1:57:15

Yeah, I remember playing. I do remember playing that.

SPEAKER_05: 1:57:17

I think that might be the sequel. Agent of the Fire was the first one, and that I had that concurrent one to when it was a new game, maybe even when it came out. And I it surprised me, I'll tell you what, at the time. And I was like, I really enjoyed it. I played it through, and that's what made prompt me to get the other two that the that came out. I don't think I ever bothered with because there's Nightfire, and there was another one, and then there was the Sean Connery one, which I never bothered with, but uh they blew me away at the time, as you say. I've gone back to them, much like we talked about ban out, bann out, ejected. Well, actually, I'm I'm going in eyes open with this new controller. You never know, you never know. Um, yeah, might be a game changer. So, yeah, so roll around in some PS2 goodness, might even crack out King Kong. You know, why not? If you're gonna crack one out, you might as well King Kong it out um just to see what that looks like. Um, probably a bit of getaway, but I'm trying to be a little bit like not too hard on myself with that second to last driving level because uh I want to finish the game, but I don't want to snap the game across the back of my leg. Um might balance with a bit of Scarface, still need to make good on my promise to play some Death Stranding 2 and go to the Yotai. I'm very much looking forward to it, but I just want the moment to be right. I want the moment to be right. I need the scene to be set. Um I feel like I've got unfinished business with Death Stranding Director's Cut. So I I I don't know, I feel a bit nakgy going into two, but hey, hey, hey, hey come at me.

SPEAKER_03: 1:58:58

I don't game the way you want me to, and you don't game the way I want you to, so let's just game, right?

SPEAKER_05: 1:59:02

Let's just game our way. So yeah, I'll probably be playing a game from 2003. Um probably time to just stop G1 jockey if I'm honest with you. So yeah, keep your eyes peeled. Uh with that, I think that might bring us full circle, RGT. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02: 1:59:26

I think so, yeah. I think just to say, you know, for me, um, hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas. Um, all the listeners, um, all the people in Discord, all the people that help us behind the scenes, um, which is invaluable, it's absolutely brilliant. Um, just to say thanks to everyone, have a lovely festive period. I hope you get loads of game and goodies. Um, and thanks for supporting us throughout the year with all your downloads and comments and views on YouTube and that. It's been absolutely brilliant. So, yeah, just say thank you very much and uh have a good one.

SPEAKER_05: 1:59:58

Yeah, and from me I just want to say I believe in Christmas miracles because I believe in you. Um you've dedicated a whole year to listening to this show. You've dedicated a a whole year of supporting us. You you've been absolutely incredible. The show would not be here without you, and that's why it'll always remain free. For you, whenever you need it, however you need it. I want to wish you and your family the absolute best. Um you're a stand-up person in my eyes, because you've you've been very kind by listening to this drivel 52 times plus more if you've got into Flash EV. Um and thank you for helping us with the support of launching that show, which has gone over great, not only with the traditional listeners, but a whole new audience, RGT. So we're very, very, very grateful and humbled by what 2025 has looked like. It's been a big year for me personally. Got married, lots of other things going on in the background, and the guys have supported me like Knights Templar. They stood by me through thick and thin, the banged out solos, left, right, and Chelsea for me, uh, for you on behalf of the show. Uh, and even within all of that business, we've managed to sneak out what we're quite proud of in Flashy B and continue to be proud of in the main show. Um, there's lots of things on the outs, on the peripheries of that for you to get stuck into. But if you just enjoyed the main show uh and you're silent but violent, we love you very much. Um very, very much, and thank you so, so much for all that you do. Um, RGT, before I get maybe too emotional, um I'm gonna probably leave it there. But uh happy Christmas and a Merry New Year to absolutely Happy Christmas. Is it Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year? Don't worry about it. Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year's.

SPEAKER_02: 2:01:49

No, I love it I love this uh I love the freestyling of it.

SPEAKER_05: 2:01:53

Every single last one of you, you look amazing. I hope underneath the tree is a stack of gaming goodness so gregorious that your eyes are ruptured just upon its first sighting. And if you get nothing but a three half inch floppy and nothing to play it on, then do you know what? You're still a winner, brother, sister. I love you. I love all of you. And that's all we have time for this week, listeners. Always thank you for your time. Look forward to the pleasure of speaking to you again next week. Until then, happy gaming. And remember, there's nothing wrong with being given the unofficial controller, it's what you do with it that counts.

SPEAKER_02: 2:02:31

See you, RGT. Ladies, happy Christmas, everyone.