A Studio Shuts, A Space RPG Pivots, And A Cult Golf RPG Steals The Show

A PS3 classic gets its flowers, a remake titan goes dark, and space RPG promises meet reality. We kick off with Infamous, celebrating the late-game difficulty, clever traversal design, and that unforgettable twist that still shocks. It’s a perfect reminder that bold storytelling and tight systems can outlast any hardware cycle—and why Gen 7 games deserve more love in 2026.

From there, we jump into what’s been on our controllers: Tiger Woods 12 remains dangerously addictive with its soothing palette and career grind; Africa on PS3 brings cozy-photo vibes with rough starter gear; and Switch 2 becomes a comfort zone for Cast & Chill and a full-fat Farming Simulator 17 portable loop. Then we crown a hidden gem you can play tonight: Golf Story on Switch, a top-down RPG-golf hybrid with charming writing, satisfying stat growth, and themed courses that keep the loop fresh. If you want progression without bloat, it’s a must.

The news section hits hard. Sony reportedly shuts down Bluepoint Games, the studio behind Demon’s Souls and Shadow of the Colossus remakes. We unpack why even elite teams face risk in a tightened market—long timelines, delayed returns, and live-service experiments that never land. It’s a sign of the times: strategic pivots, fewer bets, and tough calls. Talent won’t vanish, though—expect Bluepoint veterans to power new successes sooner than you think.

We also parse Todd Howard’s update tease for Starfield. It’s “not 2.0,” but aims to change the game in a meta way—especially in space. Fans will likely be happy; skeptics shouldn’t expect a total conversion. Our wishlist: deeper space loops, industrial play, and richer reasons to leave the ship. Finally, nostalgia returns with a price tag: Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen drop on Switch a la carte for $19.99 each, skipping Switch Online. Great access, sure, but the value question lingers—should classic titles bring added features or bundled options?

If you’re into smart game design, industry strategy, and the sweet spot between nostalgia and value, this one’s for you. Tap play, then tell us: is $19.99 fair for FireRed/LeafGreen, and what would make Starfield win you back?

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Transcript

Banter And Spring Chatter

SPEAKER_04 0:18

Hello and welcome to the unofficial controller podcast, your weekly gaming podcast, episode number three hundred and six with me, Georgie, and this week joined by RGT. Blue Point. It's my pointless. How's it going, you little stud? That was on point as well. Oh whoa. Look at that. Whoa. What should we not talk about it in the news now?

SPEAKER_07 0:40

Brilliant. Um I'm very well. Absolutely brilliant. How are you? Yeah, you're looking good.

SPEAKER_04 0:45

You're uh looking full of the joys of an ever-on coming spring. Oh, we need spring desperately. When will it have sprung? Do you think? When will it have sprung?

SPEAKER_07 0:58

That's a long way off by what the weather's like at the moment, so I want it to spring very soon. When does spring officially sprung? I don't know. March, is it?

Infamous Finished: Plot Twists And Difficulty

SPEAKER_04 1:10

I hope so. Good to see you're on point, uh Tomothy. Um what have you been playing?

SPEAKER_07 1:18

Um only two games, really.

unknown 1:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:24

Infamous PS3 done. Back in the case.

SPEAKER_04 1:30

Nice work, Zeke.

SPEAKER_07 1:33

Thanks, Cole.

SPEAKER_04 1:35

Um let me talk to you. Let me ask you questions because I'm excited. You teased me off air about whether you had or hadn't finished this, and now you've told me that you have. What did you think about the Zeke Double Cross? Spoilers for a 5,624-year-old game.

SPEAKER_07 1:53

Uh yes, I wasn't expecting that at all. Normally you can sort of read a story, but I was not expecting that because they were so close friends, and I didn't expect it to be him just suddenly. I I sort of half thought that was like the energy of the of the uh the orb thing, whatever it's called, I can't remember now. But for him to suddenly want power, I know he wanted to help more, but it almost seems like when he took the orb thing, it was just because he wanted to be powerful, but obviously he that goes against you know, he goes against that a bit more further down the line. But yeah, um, yeah, I was not expecting that. Normally you can you can see a game's sort of story through and through most games, but I did I weren't expecting that being that they were so close friends.

SPEAKER_04 2:37

But what about this question then? And I may have misremembered it or I didn't get what was going on. But what about the bombshell? That you are the bad guy.

SPEAKER_07 2:46

I didn't, I couldn't believe that. I just sat watching that and Donna watched the NC with me as well and went, bloody hell, that's you as well. And I was like, Yeah, I've just I just had a fight of myself. Yeah, I was like, no way, that's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_04 3:00

It's incredible. When I clever story, clever story. I had to ask myself if I'd because I kind of was playing it and falling asleep, it was late at night, I kind of remember it. And the next day when I woke up, I had to ask myself, did that happen? And I played it through again at the ending, just to make sure, and it did. I was like, I'm the oh wow, you know, with the Zeke because I said to you, pay close attention. I kept saying to you we for the last two or three weeks, pay close attention to the story, play close attention to the story because I wanted to double check with you. Is this true? Yeah, it is. Um, I did remember it correctly. Um the Zeke Double Cross surprised me, um, but that ending blew me away, RGT. As you say, the storytelling and the complexity of that weave at the end, I thought was I think it's unparalleled.

SPEAKER_07 3:57

Yeah, I think it's I was talking to my mate in the week and I said, Did you ever play this on your PS3? And at first he got a bit confused what it was and thought it was a first person game. And I said, No, no, no, it's third person. If anything, that's a bit like on a you know, bit of a Spider-Man superhero game with your Brackdown Spider-Man, yeah. You know, and he thought, Oh, right, no, I'll have to play that. I said, Yeah, definitely give it a go. Um, it was it's I think very ahead of his time for the storytelling and the controls and very original, you know, just a completely you know, a lot of games, even when they got original stories, you can see where they got the idea from. But this seems very, you know, very unique. Someone had this idea and done it. Now, what I will say, the last seven, six, seven missions are nails as well. They are hard as hell, and also I noticed because you're your climbing can be quite slow when you're going up buildings. That sort of that was highlighted a bit with these last few missions, and I was raging a bit, thinking, come on, because you're either chasing something or you've got to get to a certain place in a time. That that sort of climbing and going over the scenery doesn't help that and show that as a bit of a weakness.

SPEAKER_04 5:10

But for the generation, was that the right way to go, though? Do you think? Because obviously you can utilise the sub um tramway lines and bits and bobs, the electrical wires.

SPEAKER_07 5:21

One of them I did find out I did use the wires, but there's there's points where they veer off and you need to go direct. So you have to that's right. So, in if anything, you have to try and get ahead to allow your time to climb up that builder near the end to get on the but I got there in the end, got it done. Um brilliant. Um I mean, I've been going through obviously, we're doing a generation seven playthrough on on here um with the guys on Discord. Um, but of all the games I've played within the last two years, I've been through the Bioshocks because I haven't played them, and I'm now into this infamous, I've played Singularity, all games like that. This is up there. Move one of one of my favourite, I think, Gen 7 games. Um, yes, we spoke off hour about the TV. Yes, my TV has got the AI up scalar in, so it does look better than it did originally, and it does run smoother. But even so, I mean, there was one point I was right up on top of the highest building in the game, and I was looking, I was thinking the draw distance on this is pretty good. I know you've got little sort of the smog and uh near the end of the game the poison, but even so, I was thinking they've built a big world here for an early-ish PS3 game, they've uh you know, mid-gen, I suppose, but they've done it's remarkable the game and the size and how it plays. And yes, you you know, I've mentioned this before, the the menus and submenus are a bit early 2000s PC game, but that you know it makes it easy enough to upgrade. You can upgrade your your bits and pieces and away you go. And I just think just I just think people don't talk about it enough for the generation, really. I've had great fun with it. Um, gonna have a palette cleanse. Uh, got a new game turned up today, which will go in what I'm hoping to play at the end of the show. So gonna be playing that for a bit, and then I think we've got Remember Me was voted in for our Gen Generation 7 game.

SPEAKER_04 7:14

I'm excited to see what people say about that.

SPEAKER_07 7:16

Yes, because I remember you playing this and recommending it to me, hence why I bought it a few years ago. Well, it's gone up in price a bit now, but that's it, because it was£1.50 game or£1.50 for the longest. I paid I paid£2 in CX for that. That's now£12 in CX. Yeah, on PS3, but that's about three or four pounds for the£360 version.

SPEAKER_04 7:37

It's in a lot of PS3 YouTube hidden gem videos.

SPEAKER_07 7:41

Might be why.

SPEAKER_04 7:42

So um I like the game, although be prepared to feel a little bit sick with the frame rate at times. I think that's probably my.

SPEAKER_07 7:50

I remember when I played it, it did it looked very good. It almost looked early PS4, it looked very good, but I remember at chugging at points and I was like, geez, is that my PS3 given up, or is that the game?

Gen 7 Retrospectives And Tech Upgrades

SPEAKER_04 8:04

I thought, yeah, that is a bit chuggy, but and that makes sometimes interaction with the if I remember correctly, some of the sort of interaction points that it's hard, it's there's a bit of friction, but there's a lot of um I think by the time I got about 70% through, I was a bit like I might be a bit done with this. But when it was finished, it was like okay, that was an interesting journey. Um did you play out with your SSD installed? I don't think you did, did you? I don't think I did, so it'd be interesting to go back and see if that feels a little bit smoother.

SPEAKER_07 8:38

And that if my TV sorts it out a bit, it might do, but yeah, you might do some sort of light lifting at the back end. Yeah, but Carlos was keen, he we put the vote out that one, about two hours later, he was like mission four or five, which is about halfway through. I was like, my god, you're gonna do it in a wireless one.

SPEAKER_04 8:56

I think when you first turn it on though, you kind of get a little bit blindsided by how good it looks. And initially, on the first sort of tickle under the chin, you you feel there's not that much friction, so you kind of tumble into the first third of the game quite easy. And after that, things start to as the systems and the gameplay mechanics and the story start to pad out a little bit, it starts to be a little bit more of the same, bit derivative. Um but you know it's worth the it's worth two bucks, and it's certainly a uh you know a nice way to spend a weekend. Uh it's not an overly long game from memory. So yeah.

SPEAKER_07 9:32

If anyone's interested in that, it's on our Discord. We do an RGT back the past and we're doing all generation seven games. We have a vote when everyone's played the game for the next one. Four games go up that me and Fat Zang Geefer decided. We do two each, we put them in a vote, and whatever one wins, we all play through and have a little discussion. Um, yeah, if you if you want to join Discord, check our link trees and bits out. I've now got one on my Instagram. So if you go on there, there's a link straight to Discord, jump on there, or got one for the show as well, I think, haven't we? On the on the Instagram. So yeah, come and join in. It's good fun playing through a game with other people and that, and that spurns you on if it gets a bit tricky, you're not into it to start with, spurns you on to get the game done. So good fun.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

Definitely a nice way to play. What was this other game you teased me with then?

SPEAKER_07 10:15

Oh, that's uh the other game is my uh what my hidden gem, you mean?

SPEAKER_04 10:19

Or no no no no. You said you had two games.

SPEAKER_07 10:21

Was one of them Well, I was hoping the one was going to turn up early today, so I could have played it and put it on, but it turned up literally five minutes before we started recording this.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

So Well, tell me what game that is then. What game have you been waiting for? Like a hungry child.

SPEAKER_07 10:35

I think you'll turn your nose up at first. Okay. Um, because this is the third iteration of these games, and they've never I've never paid no attention to them at all. But again, as I usually do, I was watching Game Wright the other day on YouTube, and he was doing uh he had early access to it and was doing a playthrough of it, and I thought, do you know what? This looks really good. And then I started seeing a few early reviews, and everyone was saying, This is a decent, decent game. I bought the Switch 2 version, which might be a little which we know our problem with racing games on the Switch 2, but I wanted something that's portable, so I have got Gear Club 3. Gear Club 3, unlimited. Um, it's not much more than a mobile phone game. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Now I think people think that from the name of it, they're not mobile at all. This game has actually got a lot more depth than what you're thinking.

SPEAKER_04 11:31

Um that's not on the latest iPhone or Samsung S5000 or whatever. You're thinking of asphalt racing, aren't you? I'm just asking the question.

What’s Next: Remember Me And Frame Rate Woes

SPEAKER_07 11:40

I don't know. This I would be very surprised if it is just only a toned-down one. This is the cutscenes are a bit cut-out images and text with voices. Um, but the actual game looks decent on the Switch 2. You can get it on PS5 as well, an Xbox, um, released today. Um, but you go over to start doing like the racing clubs again. You get this billionaire want to start racing clubs in Japan again. So you go over, um, you earn a bit of money, you race some local people, you get a car, bit need for speed, get a car. But the thing I love with this, and this is where you need to listen, young George, is you get a warehouse, and then when you earn your money, you have to buy in a mechanics bay, you have to buy in a body shop bay, you have to buy in tyres and bits, and then you have to hire mechanics to do the upgrades to your car, so you can do these um side mission races to earn your money to get your car tuned up or to save up for another car, and you have to build not just only your car, your whole team around you as well. And that I've watched two or three episodes on it, and that fascinated me. And I thought, do I pull a plug on it? And then it released at less than£40. And I thought, well, I'm gonna give it a go for that. I'm gonna give it a go. Um, I watched another episode of it today, and it does look pretty decent. Like I say, the only thing is, I think if you're gonna buy it and you're a home console player rather than a mobile, get the PS5 port, you're gonna have the triggers. I reckon it's gonna be pretty good on that. But I just wanted something I could take away with me when we're camping in bits and pieces and play a big game. So I'm gonna give it a go and I'll let you know what it's like next week. Interesting. Um, if I come back and you I haven't named it as me on what I've been playing, then you know it went pretty bad. But I've from from the looks and impressions and the research, it's um it's been it's reviewed quite well. And it's even got that Japanese racing where you're in the traffic and you've got to dodge all through all the cars on this on the system. It looks really good, and for Switch 2, it looks pretty decent graphics, really does. So it'd be interesting. We'll see how it goes. So um, but yeah, so uh that's me pretty much. What about you, George? What you've been playing?

SPEAKER_04 13:52

Hmm, again, it's been a crazy week. I've not been at home very much, but I have uh I'll give you the round robin of games I've been playing. I've played a little bit more Tiger Woods 12. I know, I know. Just hear me out. Um, just another couple of rounds, really. Um, I'm trying to meet the conditions to get the next layer of my professional career. So I think I need one more tournament.

SPEAKER_07 14:17

It's an addictive game, though, in it. Once you start on that and you and it takes a few few holes to get back into it, and then bang, you're on it again, and you think I'm so addictive to work your way up the litter. Yeah, it's a great game, it is.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

So it still looks good as well. I still think that it's as a golf game, as golf games go. I I don't know if you loaded up the PS5 one now, but like, oh yeah, okay. But Tiger Woods has always had this kind of pastel washout on it, where it doesn't ever chase a hyper-realistic look, it kind of chases like a hybrid. I've always found anyway. Yeah, very true. Um, it seems to have a little bit of a cartoony pastel edge to it, it always has like 2004. I can speak to strongly, had that same feel. 12 has that same kind of colour palette to it, bizarrely. Um, and I I looked at a trailer for the latest one on PS5, and I thought, yeah, it's got that washed out like weird colour palette as well. Even on PS5, considering the level of graphical fidelity you can get on like an NBA game. Tiger Woods looks like it's on a gen and a half ago still. I don't know what's going on there in the golf world. Maybe the grass takes up far too much of the clip count, and therefore it is just what it is, but I don't know. But graphics and grumbleswomany aside, as you say, still a great game. Still haven't picked up the move yet to give it a go.

SPEAKER_07 15:41

But uh the ceiling is safer now.

New Pickup: Gear Club 3 On Switch 2

SPEAKER_04 15:43

For now. Probably more need to worry about the move controllers in my case, mate. Just wedged in the floor, just wedged in the ceiling. Um, so there's a bit of that. I pulled out for some reason Africa on PS3. Uh I was hoping to catch Rachel's eye with that a little bit, and um played through the first couple of missions. It's I love the game, but as I was doing it the other day, it's like, yeah, I forgot, I ain't got my save anymore because of the hard drive swaps, and I don't think I ever saved it to the cloud, so all my photography equipment is garbage. There was some really great picture set up around this watering hole, and I zoomed it in, got it right, and took the picture. And quite rightly, what the game does at the start is it gives you poor equipment. So the pictures that you take, because you're just starting out, the pictures that the game generates of the photo that you've taken looks a bit fuzzy and not very good. And as you get better equipment, your photos improve, and I was just this perfect shot down at this watering hole. Click, then I looked at the image and I was like, oh gody, I forgot. So there's realistic rumbles there, but nothing, nothing too major. Um, the other two games I played because I was away on the Switch, I kind of just had the little mosey myself, put it on idle mode, and kind of watched it while I laid in my bed in the hotel room. There's just something wonderful about that game. Um, I'm getting a little bit nervous about what the tip jar's being spent on, though, RGT, because I sank I feel like I sank a clear$100 into that tip jar. And I got nothing. So I'm a bit perturbed. I don't know whether you need to further unlock other levels before the tip jar. We talked about this a couple of episodes ago, and it's still a concern to me because in a bid to get another sneaky little secret location, I keep throwing really good hard-earned cash in his tip jar.

SPEAKER_07 17:47

But the tip jar, when he's got a tip to tell you, we'll have a little icon above it.

SPEAKER_04 17:53

And I haven't done that, and I've put so much coin in it.

SPEAKER_07 17:56

Yeah, if you put it in when there isn't, I think there's a if I remember right, there's a little orange explanation mark above it. I might be wrong with the colour, but I'm sure there is, and I remember putting it in, and then he told me, and the next time there wasn't one, and I put in and he never said nothing, so I thought, ah, well that's sh once you do a certain amount of levels, he might then say, Ah, here's the next place you can go, sort of thing.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

Oh one thing I never told you, I did actually get a pickup this week. And I think it was damn it, it's still in the car boot as well. It's a steel bug. Trials trials game, the trials game, but I don't know which one it is, but it's a sequel.

SPEAKER_07 18:40

It's a a PS3 one or yeah. Oh, so that'd probably be Tales of Zilliar, I suspect.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

Maybe I thought yeah, I think it might have been Tales of Zillia 2, something like that.

SPEAKER_07 18:52

Yeah, they done a steel book for that and the five.

SPEAKER_04 18:57

Oh, I don't think in my collection I've got any sequels. So I picked it, and as I picked it up, I you know when the box sort of moves a bit because of the plastic, as I picked it up, it didn't move, and I was like, but yeah, it's a steel book. Even if I've got I need this now. Was it very expensive or I think it was like 20 quid.

SPEAKER_07 19:15

Yeah, was it in CX?

SPEAKER_04 19:17

Yeah. CX Newark, uh, where George works. Uh so shout out to George at CX Newark. Hello, George. He he didn't serve me this time, but I watched him through the glass. Actually, if if Yeah that sounds weird. It sounds really weird.

SPEAKER_07 19:37

Did you watch him for long? If you just looked through to say hi, that's fine.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

I was looking through to catch his eye to say hi, but he was repricing items behind the glass.

SPEAKER_07 19:46

Or did he do a sneaky little corner eye look and thought, oh my god, that's him again. Just pretend you can't see him, he'll go.

SPEAKER_04 19:52

I think that might be near an hour now. My paranoia kicked in, and that's how I felt it went down. So it's a bit awkward.

SPEAKER_07 19:59

Yeah, sorry, George.

SPEAKER_04 20:00

Uh doick. And and the only other game I've been playing, and this will attract, I think, a halo of fans around the show, and it's it's a big, it's big time. Um I think at the weekend I played a load of PS2 and PS3, but I've forgotten. It's been a long time ago now. Um but I played I've been playing a lot of farming simulator switch edition, so it's basically FS17 uh on the Switch too. It's any good or is it well? I got this one specifically because it is basically FS17. You can't get mods, you're stuck on the American and European map only, which is bloody annoying. Um, but it is the real one because on all the other farming simulators on Switch, it's the mobile touch edition, which is not even close to what I want. Now I do know that the latest version of Farming Simulator has had a Switch version, so FS24 or 5, whatever it is I play on PS5, has had the same treatment, so you get the full fat game, but zero mods, zero DLC as far as I'm aware, and zero um extra maps. So once again, you're stuck with the I think three maps to give you now because obviously I think they need to give you a map for the rice paddy field farming that they do in the newer versions. So I think that's it. So I've been playing FS17 to be honest with you, it looks pretty good on there. Um the only annoyance is when you first start on those ones, you only get very small fields, and I was I can't find the sleep trigger to my house, so I have to like fast forward time, and I I thought, oh bloody hell, I've got ages for these crops to grow. I've done all the fertilization I can do. I'll just stick it on 120 time and I'll just watch the telly a minute. Well, I look down. Oh no. And mate, I managed. I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna get it to real time. Like the crop is probably about 30 seconds away from dying on the vi on on the on in the field. Jeez.

SPEAKER_07 22:14

That blasted through quick.

George’s Now Playing: Golf, Africa, And Cozy Sims

SPEAKER_04 22:16

It went from green shoots in the ground to me thinking, well, I've done all my fertilisation passes now. So you know, I didn't plow it before, which was a mistake, but I didn't have a plow. And I'm trying to be frugal. Uh and uh so I've done my and then boom, 120, looked up at the TV, started watching a bit of repair shed or whatever it was. I was like, Oh, this is good. Oh, I wonder how this is getting on. No, because it's been a lot of work to get those three fields sort of harvested, bailed, drilled, seeded, you know, the whole bag of tricks. And then to see your work disappear in front of your eyes because you got too busy watching Jay Blades talk to a grandma about a broken vase that you uh didn't realise you'd thrown your agricultural empire down the swanee. So yeah. Um there you go. There's my story about what I've been playing.

SPEAKER_07 23:11

What you're talking about simulators, um, I did recommend to you, didn't I, that Park Ranger Simulator.

SPEAKER_04 23:16

Oh right, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 23:17

Yeah, the early access. Well, there is a game just dropped because Game Riot played another one which has actually come out called uh well that's that's on early access, I think, but I say it on PC called Park Ranger Simulator. Now don't get muddled up because this one he recent one he's played was absolute trash. It's terrible. But I'll have to get the original one that he he got the early access to and send you the link for that one because that looks really good.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

That one thing I'm gonna pick up probably while this episode's on, actually, is I think it launched yesterday or today, and I don't know what format to get it on, either Switch or PS5. So this is kind of what I'm hoping to play without ruining it too much. But there's an indie game I've had my eye on about it's called Star Trek Voyager, and it's basically a almost like a roguelike um do you remember Fallout Shelter where you had to like stack up the pods inside?

SPEAKER_07 24:08

Oh I love that. Okay, he might put some arrows into that. I'd love to do that.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

In Star Trek Voyager, you kind of cross to the other end of the universe, and when you get there with the game mechanics that you've got, you get a side-on ship a bit like it's a bit like faster than light or like the um that there's space version of that bomber crew game that I played a lot. Do you remember that? Space crew, I think it's called. So you get a side-on on the ship. When you start off, all the all the areas are pretty much damaged, so then you have to go in, clean them, repair them. This is gonna be good. Yeah, I'm quite excited by it. I I guess mileage may vary depending on whether you are, and it's new and it's indie. So look at me. Star of the show once again. Yeah, uh, I'm also quite intrigued to maybe try and grab that can that climbing game this weekend as well. Uh, maybe I'll get that next weekend again. I might get that next weekend, and this weekend just get this. Oh, I did walk in on my beloved wife Rachel, got home the other night, and um the PS5 was sweating because she'd been on uh roller uh Planet Coaster 2.

SPEAKER_07 25:18

Oh wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

Walked in, she was like, Oh, this is my third park. Um, done all this, maxed out the attached rate in this other park, so I had all these effects going on, all these rides, and it wouldn't let me put anything more down, so I'd consider that finished. I was like, Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 25:36

Remember your daughter played a lot on the first one.

SPEAKER_04 25:39

The second one, try and tickle the second one under her nose because a few of the gripes I had with the first one, the uh the level of interaction and some of the sort of abilities and things the way it worked, because it was it's controller driven, have been alleviated somewhat in this sequel. That's my big takeaway. I don't feel like the graphics have improved greatly. They've obviously incorporated some of the water rides from the first one's DLC, but yeah, definitely. Um I don't know what formats it's on actually. What's she got these days? Switch?

SPEAKER_07 26:12

Uh a PC, gaming PC. Oh, get it on there, won't she? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got a Steam account, so get it on there.

SPEAKER_04 26:20

Wow, does she want to do a podcast? Because uh she's got a finger on the pulse. RGT on the preamble, which I don't think made the show, much to my surprise, because you can normally set your watch by you and your hidden gems. I feel like it it was only a week ago that we did one.

SPEAKER_07 26:39

Um we did one late the January one because there was a show you weren't on which had it lined up for, which then pushed into February. And I did say on that show you will have another one in a few couple of weeks' time because we'll be on the February's one, that was January's, which was if you didn't listen to that show, was Dungeon Siege, Throne of Agony, which I done on the PSP was January's. Yeah, we're gonna. I'm now right to February's one.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

So okay, well word of warning. I was in the edit suite, and one thing I would say did not land for me, especially, is the almost the fat zangief way that you dictate the way I do the hidden gem. I think I'm gonna veto that. We're gonna just go flat no. Fair enough, and we'll just do the OG boon. Yep. I like that. Are you uh because yeah, no one should have to listen to that. But the boon one I think is passable. So are you are you ready for this? I am ready.

SPEAKER_05 27:39

HGT is like the Lone Ranger.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Wow. He's riding arm down. Bring hidden gems to me.

SPEAKER_07 27:59

Beautiful, beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

Yeah. Look the buzz sprout money's coming coming clutch, to be fair. I've squandered it all on singing lessons.

SPEAKER_07 28:09

You can tell. I mean you're hitting the notes now.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

Well that's all of it, so maximum improvement already shown.

SPEAKER_07 28:18

If you do want to read for ties, uh questions at annuity controller podcast.com and we'll see if we can get him another lesson.

SPEAKER_04 28:25

Questions though Let's do the guessing game.

SPEAKER_07 28:29

Hit me up with the year 2017 Hit me up with the format on the platform. Yeah, switch which is what I played on, but I was I would have made sure I think this might be switch only. Okay The publisher and the developer of the same people, which was solid games. An OPG World Oh nearly golf life nearly Is it golf? Yes, it's golf. Starts with an S.

SPEAKER_04 29:38

Oh no, mate. What the hell? Golf story.

SPEAKER_07 29:42

Golf story, yes, it is. Yeah, uh I I was going through my library on Switch the other day and then suddenly remembered I had this and thought, why have I not put this as a hidden gem? Because it's an absolutely superb game. It is so good. Um and I I played this when I had my Switch light. Um, I'd messed my back up from work, was stuck in bed, and I sat there and played this for a few days and just absolutely loved it. Um, if you haven't heard of Golf Story, it literally is a art style which is similar to like Sensible Soccer Cross Stardew, um, sort of a top-down, almost like an early sort of Pokemon looking game from what I think.

SPEAKER_04 30:28

May I just intersect with how I view it? You know that you know there's that company that makes the game dev story, the WrestleM fan story, and and it's got that kind of look to it, hasn't it?

Hidden Gem Reveal: Golf Story

SPEAKER_07 30:39

Yeah, it's got that very sort of like a chilby kind of yeah, that sort of 16-bit, like I say, stardew, sensible soccer, sort of in that sort of ballpark. Um and this game that's got a good little story to it. You're um you start off um playing golf with your dad when you're a kid, and he thinks you're really good, and he's training you to, you know, you're a bit worried about crowds, and there's he's your life story, mate. Yeah. And uh he sees that you're gonna be, you know, really good at the game, and then obviously life takes over, and that goes 20 years later, and you've split up with your wife, and uh she's asking you to come and get the boxes from your hat from their house, you're in a different house now, and you said, Well, I can't at the moment because I'm I'm gonna play golf again and see if I can get back into the pro golf ranks. And that is your story. So you start off at the local golf club, and no one takes you seriously, so you do a few little you wander around not an RPG, and you'll see a few people at the uh at the course doing different things, and you'll play little missions for them to get enough money to get the coach to view you, and then you go off and play tournaments, and the idea is that you make it up the ranks. Yes, George, you have your finger up, you may speak.

SPEAKER_04 31:52

I realise I'm not I don't want to detract from golf story, I don't want to detract from your story either about it or your mini review, your hidden gem. But I realised I have a confession. One of the games, those PS2 games that I said I played I'd forgotten about as you were talking. I don't know why, as you talked, it came to me. Yeah, me and Rachel spent a few hours on G1 jockey. Wow. And I mean a few hours.

SPEAKER_07 32:16

Oh no. Should we just leave that there? Or I think we should I think we should leave that there. You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna poke the bear in this. It's a banging game. Um but yes, back to golf story, not G1. Yes, please.

SPEAKER_04 32:31

Yeah, I just needed to get that out. I felt like I had to get that out there. I know it's got a lot of history with the show, and uh yeah.

SPEAKER_07 32:38

But they they nail this sort of retro RPG with it. The golf's really easy to play, but good fun. When you XP and level up, you then put them points against your power or your slice or your shot or your and it's it's addictive, it's great fun, it's got lovely little music. Um, and like I say, is if if you remember the old golf games where you were top down like golfer mania on the master system and games like that, it's got that sort of style.

SPEAKER_04 33:07

I would prose golf as well, it gives you vibes, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 33:09

Similar to that. Um, so it's easy to play, but it's got a good story to it, good little RPG elements. Um, and that's a great little game. I picked this up when this was on sale, I believe, for about£6. But I was gonna ask you how much is it? But at the moment, that's on the Switch store for$13.50. Um yeah, you'll get quite a few hours out of the game. But I if I was you, put it on your wish list, wait till the sale comes up and do it because it is there there is a physical, but it was done by limited run. So you're looking£50-60 for one of them, forget the physical, download it as it hardly takes any space up on your on your memory. Uh download it off a switch store, um, wait till there's a sale on, and yeah, it's a great little game. Um, I absolutely love this game. Golf Story. They went off and done a few other ones which didn't hit as well. Golf Story was nines out of tens, 90%, 92%. He got really good ratings. They went off and done a I think a football one and a sports one, and I didn't quite hit them once.

SPEAKER_04 34:03

No, Golf Store is the OG and it's the best one.

SPEAKER_07 34:06

This is the one, so um, yes, definitely check that out, but because it's it's a great little game.

SPEAKER_04 34:13

That RGT is possibly one of your finest works. That was absolutely banging. Golf story, didn't expect that to walk in the door, mate. Absolutely banging. Thank you. Um, I actually counter it. I know you say put it in a cell, and that's great advice from Martin Lewis of moneysavingtips.com. Uh but I think that£13.50 Yeah, you wouldn't be disappointed if you spent it on the game.

SPEAKER_07 34:37

You know what an old RPG is, you know what a golf game is, and if you want something that's real sort of niche and having an RPG story about golf, you aren't going to go wrong with this. You'll have plenty of hours to play in this. It's it's good. They've even got little spin-off bits, you go to different courses, they've got disc golf in there as well. So yeah, and there's like the different courses are quite themed, like Halloween one, and yeah, so it's good fun. Definitely check it out.

SPEAKER_04 35:02

So okay. Well, thank you for that, RGT. No problem. I guess that leaves us clear to dive into the news, like Duncan Goodhue with a pack of dogs behind him. It's time for the news to scoured the very darkest regions of the internet to bring you the latest stories. First up, out of the bag. Ho ho! Who's been busy? Old Robert Ramsay's been busy. He's the son of Gordon. Um is he? He is now. He works over at Push Square. Uh, I think he's an intern over there because I don't think Gordon's kids are that old, so I don't know what's going on. Uh, but anyway, Robert Ramsay put his tiny little fingers to keyboard because he's a child, nothing more to it than that. With this story. And this is big time. Sony makes a shocking decision to shut down Blue Point Games. In news that genuinely centers readling, Sony is reportedly shutting down Blue Point Games, the Austin-based developer that it acquired back in 2021, making it part of the PlayStation Studios. Most notably, Bluepoint was behind the Shadow of the Colossus PS4 remake and the excellent Demon Souls PS5 remake. Naturally, there are high expectations for what the team could go on to produce, but according to Bloomberg journalist Jason Trier, the whole company's being axed by Powers at the. It's no secret that Bluepoint was working on some kind of live service God of War title, but that project was cancelled in early 2025 when Stony started backtracking on its live service push. At the time, we and many others were baffled by the news that the platform holder had a developer like Blue Point working on such a thing when it was clearly very adept at remaking classic games. Shrie Wright's Studios spent the last year or so pitching new ideas and attempt to decide the company's immediate future. Closure means that around 70 people lose their jobs. Meanwhile, a Sony representative had issued the following statement. Bluepoint Games is an incredibly talented team, and their technical expertise has developed exceptional experiences for the PlayStation community. We thank them for their passion, creativity, and craftsmanship. Without question, countless PlayStation fans will be left bemused by the situation at a glance, and from the outside looking in, there appears to have been some serious mismanagement at play here from the parent company. RGT, that bombshell reverbering around the gaming bazaars over the last 24 hours and into the weekend. What's your hot take on it, Retro Gamer Timothy?

SPEAKER_07 37:28

Thank you. Um I still think this is all part of the video game crash. Um things need to be slimmed down from these companies. They're foreseeing what's coming with price hikes and chip prices, and we have you know the sort of the backtrack from Xbox with the subscription service going for more sales now because it hasn't worked. Everything's a bit unstable. They're trying to secure things up, and I think they've looked and thought we need to offload some studios. Who's gonna go first? Um, and unfortunately, Blue Point, although not their fault, they were pushed to do the live service game, which Sony aren't really gonna do anymore.

SPEAKER_04 38:09

No, you take that away, and that's counter that the evidence I believe suggests that they they push to do that game. Really? Now I don't think I don't think that changes what you're saying. You know, they were obviously in-between projects, or maybe that the studios are moving that way. Maybe someone at Blue Point thought if we chuck this out there and they bite it, seems like they're just writing blank checks for this drivel right now. Let's give it a go. God of war, build this thing, show it to them. Herman Horst, awesome. I mean, the talk of mismanagement, I think you probably got to look at Hermann Horst a little bit. But then when we talk about, and I I think you've nailed it, and I think this is the maybe not many shows or anyone really has this opinion. But I think you're right, the the crash is happening, it's real. Um, games companies overburden themselves during and after COVID and then realise that the business just wasn't there, and I think you know, in terms of the remakes, in terms of like push for next console, PS6 is way back now. Yeah, 2030s. Obviously, there's always fan noise about oh, I want a remake of this, and oh I want a remake of that, and I want this and I want that and I want the other. Realistically, what do the sales look like of that rather niche game you want remaking from your childhood? Not that great. Um, so have Blue Point really worked through what's available to them from remakes from Sony's portfolio?

Big News: Sony Shuts Bluepoint Games

SPEAKER_07 39:43

Well, and also I think it's crazy, you know, a lot of the YouTubers have been doing talking about the gaming crash and where we're at with what's been going on in the gaming sphere of late in the last couple of years. Yet they all turned around and said, Oh, it's mad Sony have shut down Blue Point. And I think you've just got to think outside the box a bit and think studios are gonna have to go, and who's doing the least amount at the moment? Who's not really got a project, and their last project was can because they're not really doing the live server stuff, and you sort of look and think sorry, Blue Point, you're gonna have to go. You're just sitting there at the moment. Um, might be time for it.

SPEAKER_04 40:20

Yeah, even if we injected a project into you now with four years until that pays off, and in four years' time, we might be in PS6, we might be not, we just don't really know where we are. You're absolutely right, we've got no choice. Blue point got to get the bullet. You know, and I don't say that easy because 70 people lost their job, but I'm sure Sony don't make those decisions easy, but they've made this decision.

SPEAKER_07 40:41

And I know people will say to me, Oh, but RGT, you moaned like how when Xbox shut Tango and things like that. Yeah, I know, but that was under different circumstances. They were raving about Tango, they had that great game, Hi-Fi Rush, and then just decided to shut them down, and then said, Well, they wanted an award-winning studio. And I still remember the the the ex-head of development having a picture on on Instagram of all his trophies he'd won for his game, saying, Sorry, what went won nothing. You know, that I think that was more with Xbox, it was a more tactical financial decision. Whereas this is this is being forced on people now. I mean, look at the layoffs Xbox has done at the moment. They bought big this just as the crash was coming in and have now had to lay off thousands. Sony have laid off thousands, and it isn't gonna stop here. Blue point will probably be the first of a few that'll go. Um I don't think you're gonna see. I'd be very surprised if you get see anyone really big. I mean, at the moment, they're going back to them single-player games, seems like, with the trying to, aren't they? Yeah, I mean so you you know, you your naughty dogs, your insomniacs, they're gonna be there in the background matting these games. But I think these smaller studios for any any big company, any Xbox, Sony, Nintendo, not quite so much, but they need to be looking and thinking, oh, hold on, we we need to do something big on our next game, otherwise we could be next.

SPEAKER_04 42:07

So I guess when the live service games never actually came out, and the rev projected revenue return from those obviously didn't hit because the game didn't launch, and obviously you've got games like Concorde where you know the projected return on investment on that is potentially unlimited if it had hit, right? That's what they're looking for. But when that revenue didn't fall within financial year 26 and definitely not going to drop in financial year 27, you've got to ask yourself, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_07 42:35

I mean, someone said to me at work the other day, he said, Well, hang on, ain't gonna be a crash. Sony have just announced they've sold 92 million PS5s. I was like, Yes, they had a massive bump one when the sales were on, and Xbox put their price up. Sony knocked 100 quid off, so suddenly you had an over 200 pound difference in a console. So people bought the PS5, and plus people jumped from Xbox in their droves and bought a PS5. There ain't no more gamers there, you've still got the same sort of amount, but they've they've jumped ship a bit from one brand to another. Yeah so that I that's a false economy as to actually where the the the you know where they are at at the moment in in the game and market, and I think these chip prices are a killer and have really made everyone think what can be.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

Well, the other news that's that's sort of broke over the last seven to ten days is the kind of delay of the next gen due to these chip shortages or ram prices for one of a better description. So yeah, I mean it part of me does obviously I've got a lot of sympathy for the people at Blue Point. I don't actually think they've done anything wrong in terms of the products they've developed.

SPEAKER_07 43:43

It's wrong place, wrong time, I think.

SPEAKER_04 43:45

I think it was a bit of a misstep to chase that the the blank check of the God of War live service game, but at the same token, on the day they won that business, they must have felt like the shrewdest people in the room. Herman Horse was. Blowing smoke up its backside. Jim Ryan was the shanner from the rooftops.

SPEAKER_07 44:04

Yeah, because at the time that Sony probably thought they've got it, they know what our vision is, they know what we want. So they've come back.

SPEAKER_04 44:11

And imagine how safe you feel at Blue Point handling a god of war. Like the royal, one of the royal franchises, live service game. Only to get that canned because Bungie said it wasn't very good. Then find yourself out of rotation for production. Yeah, well, interesting. I mean, they're slip they're a slippery dog, aren't they? I can I can half see this marathon gripping now.

SPEAKER_07 44:43

Yeah, I think it's different enough to be to pull a few people over who are into those sort of games. I think it's different enough the aesthetic, the way you play, the team aspect, the sort of blue, not an extraction shooter vibe.

SPEAKER_04 44:58

I I think though, with that in mind, it's launched into what it thought it might be an exclusive landing zone. But unfortunately, Arc Raiders beat him to the punch and incredibly successful.

SPEAKER_07 45:12

I think where they might have got lucky with the latest Call of Duty bomb, and as much as it has, there might be a few people floating in that space looking for the next hit that maybe have already played Arc um and you know are still looking for another game, maybe that that might help them, but we'll see. We'll see. Interesting times, I think, and yeah, don't think this is a one-off because I think we're gonna be putting news unfortunately about studios closing um for the foreseeable future. I think.

SPEAKER_04 45:41

Yeah, so to round that out, you know, commiserations for everybody at Blue Point Games. I hope you find deployment very soon. Um, you're a talented bunch of cats, though, so I shouldn't think it'll take long before you get swooped up, or maybe some of you decide that you can have a go at this yourselves, so be very excited to maybe report on that in the future, or a report on you know, XYZ at Blue Point, landing at X and getting behind a new game.

SPEAKER_07 46:08

I meant to say to Seb the other week when he was on. I wonder if the indies are exploding at the moment. Is it because a lot of these studios are closing, the big companies are lying people off, and they're all starting these little indie studios. I wonder if that's why they're all being in these great indies.

SPEAKER_04 46:25

I think that's a a great bit of insight, RGT. Spot on. What's this next bit of news?

SPEAKER_07 46:31

Uh this is over on Pure Xbox by Ben Kerry.

SPEAKER_04 46:35

What's his backstory?

SPEAKER_07 46:37

Ben Kerry. Yeah. He's Xbox through and through. So if you want the latest news, Ben's the guy.

SPEAKER_04 46:44

Just straight lace. You don't want to go into any of his notes.

SPEAKER_07 46:48

He announces stories before they've actually happened. He's that far ahead of the curve.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

That's a law you want to attach to him.

SPEAKER_07 46:55

Mm-hmm. Okay. It's not the mystic meg of Xbox.

SPEAKER_04 46:59

I would have thought that you would have probably wanted to do a riff on his name and say that he was like Lidl's version of a popular ice cream brand.

SPEAKER_07 47:07

Ben and Kerry. Very good. Sorry, Ben, if you're listening. Um message him, Ben. And uh yeah, his piece is uh titled The Fesda Says Starfield's next update will change the game, but it's not Starfield 2.0. Todd Howard talks the future of this sci-fi RPG. If Todd says it, no, it must be true. Gotta be. Yeah. In recent months, um, we've heard a lot about Starfield and its next Xbox update, which has been rumoured for a while now to coincide with a PS5 release of the Bethesda RPG. Very little of that information has come directly from the team though, but this week Todd Howard has been speaking with kinda funny about this very topic on KF Gamecast. Indeed, while Mr. Howard doesn't give us a release date or too many specific details on what's going on, he does he does say the team is moving into a phase where we're ready to talk about Starfield. The game make uh then goes on to temper expectations by saying that the next update should please existing Starfield fans, but it's not Starfield 2.0 as many have been expecting. Here's what Howard said on the matter. Um, we're moving into a phase where we're ready to talk about Starfield and really show that in the in the right way. What's coming to the game? We've been doing a lot of work that we like a lot. It is not Starfield 2.0 for expectation settings. If you love Starfield, we think you're going to love this. It's updates and things that change the game, not in an isolated way, but more meta, using outer space and things in ways that we haven't. But if Starfield's something that didn't connect with you right away, or you've bounced off it or found it boring in places, I don't think this is going to change it that fundamentally. Well, he's really selling this.

SPEAKER_04 49:15

He is, I did think that.

SPEAKER_07 49:16

Yeah, if you've uh if you're someone who loved Starfield, we're really happy with it. In terms of the timeline on this, Howard goes on to say that the news on this Starfield update is coming soon, but is again hesitant to put any sort of date on its launch. What the BGS boss doesn't hesitate with is to also mention that this won't be the end of Starfield. The team sees it continuing for a while as it works on other projects as well. Um no, we're doing more Starfield stuff coming up. Uh, we've been laying that out, and so it's something we we see continuing for a while. If you want to check out this full interview out, here's Howard um talking about Starfield alongside various other BGS projects. We'll chuck the YouTube video for that down below, which is on Pure Xbox. Go and jump on, go and have a look. Um, I know he was talking about uh Elder Scrolls. The new Elder Scrolls in addition, um which, yeah, he has admitted that they're nowhere near getting that game done alright.

SPEAKER_04 50:23

Absolutely. I think his latest confession is they've got it to a playable state internally, and that's all he wants to talk about. I think one of the biggest takeaways from it was that it won't be running on a new engine either, which I just had to stop and reread that and be like, hang on a minute, Todd.

SPEAKER_07 50:43

That's their own engine again, innit?

SPEAKER_04 50:44

Which I haven't got a problem with, but they used that in Moral Wind.

SPEAKER_07 50:50

They used it in Morrow Wind, they used the their engine in Starfield, which at time they've fixed it now, but on launch was quite chuggy. That struggled a lot there, and that took them a while to get that fixed. I haven't played of late, but I have heard us a lot better now, it's fine. But it it's it's an odd one.

SPEAKER_04 51:09

What do you make of all this talk? Because I've never played the game, to be fair. I've never played it. I do actually think it might be a slice of me, but the one thing that's put me off has been the space transitions. I don't think they're looking at changing that anytime soon, but what are they looking to do in space?

Starfield Update Talk And Expectations

SPEAKER_07 51:25

The problem, the problem you have, George, is one, you're you're into space RPGs in a big time. Um, you've played one of if the not best one for hundreds, if not a thousand hours, which is No Man's Sky. Um, so you're gonna come in comparing it, and unfortunately to me, there's no comparison whatsoever. Um, I played this on launch. Um if if you're a big Fallout fan, you it's got them similar mechanics, it's a bit obtuse. Um you know, it's different it's typical Bethesda, so your your um NPCs look like they're from a PS3 or an Xbox 360, you know, but that's what you sort of expect them games. But the game itself, you know, it it played quite well, but it was very it just didn't grab me. I put about 15-20 hours in and just thought, oh, I just can't do this. It was you know, you'd go to this planner, uh, you'd land, you'd go out, go and speak to him. All right, I'll speak to him, go and speak to them. Okay, I'll speak to them. You need to get this, that's there. Okay, cut scene, sh cut scene, land. There you go. Go and find that bit, got that, go back, go speak to him. And I was just like it and I've said this about Ubisoft games. Don't everyone hate me. I know there's people who love Starfield and brilliant. It wasn't for me, it just it felt quite soulless. Do you know what I mean? I like it when they open up and give you the story and give you that character so you can learn to really you know know that person and play as them and go off. I know your plan is yourself, but there don't seem to be much story or something to grip you and hold you in. And I know a lot of people who are Xbox for and through, and all of them bounced off at that. I knew I don't I don't really know anyone that's put loads of hours in. Um, but I'm sure there's a good game in there, it just wasn't for me. And I just think even with this, what he's saying there is this is a guy who's trying to cover his tracks and what he said previously. Oh, this is really good, but don't get hopes up too high. But that's not Starfield 2.0. But if you play the game and you like it, you'll like this. But if you haven't played the game before, he's basically saying, Don't bother because you won't find any extra bits in this.

SPEAKER_04 53:42

Do you know what I mean? I thought that was a bit strange, but I think the expectation setting that he talks of, I think, was good. I think any other talk about Starfield, especially with the internet buzz of them wanting either 2.0 or some other variation, he had to say at the start, like, oh, it's definitely not gonna be that. But it could have these elements in it. He was very oblique in his what he was talking about. He's gonna use space in a more meta way. I mean, I can't even really extrapolate in my mind what that might be. I wonder if there might be some more kind of combat, uh, exploration, mining, um, space-based building. Um it it in my opinion, it needs something like that because the planets I went on were very barren and they almost seem to They've got the perfect toolbox in the space because you know, up there you can change the game up a little bit, you're not relying on the planet mechanics, everything's a little bit different in space. So if you were to adjust that game, so maybe you never go down on a planet, maybe it just becomes this little buzz around, blast some asteroids, collect up the minerals, take them back to a location, dump that, extract cash there. Maybe it it kind of changes it in a fundamental way where you kind of get more industrious jobs. Yeah, I don't know enough about the game to know whether I'm speaking absolute drivel or not.

SPEAKER_07 55:04

But don't forget, I played at early doors, so it's probably a completely different game now. But I mean, when I played one of the planets I went on, I was walking for ages, and then I thought, I've been here already, I've been to this bit, but it hadn't got seed degenerated the same landscape further down. That's a shame. And I was like, oh, hang on. But I heard a lot of that has been patched out now, which is good. I think if if you're into them, I see I was never a big Fallout player. I found them a bit of juice, I found them a bit, they don't really show you, but that's the enjoyment of the game, I suppose, for a lot of people to discover and find stuff. If if you like Fallout, there's there's a and you haven't played this, there's a massive game for you here.

SPEAKER_04 55:44

I think I might grab this. If this patch hits and it's got some decent noise to it, I might give it a go.

SPEAKER_07 55:49

I think you'd get some enjoyment out of it. You're you're you're obviously sort of pre-judging it because of these um landing scenes and bits and pieces where you want a bit of.

SPEAKER_04 55:57

I just in my space my dream space guy again, No Man's Sky hits that dot straight on by allowing me to do all those industrious things, explore the planets. Yes, I tell you what, No Man's Sky is lacking, a Fallout style style storyline. There's a story there, but it's very kind of spectrum, you know, text adventure style story, whereas obviously Fallout's got some level of production value.

SPEAKER_07 56:25

And I mean the thing I did like about Starfield, the first person shooting and stuff was was really good. I enjoyed that. I'm not a an aficionado on FPS games, but that looked really good and played really well and had some good battles in some um sort of deserted places. I went to get some, you know, uh collect some stuff or a missionars on. So that was good fun. That's a good side to it. That's you know, that's almost like that Halo-esque when you go into buildings doing your shooting and bits and pieces against other other people who are trying to steal stuff. So that that side was good. Um, I think you'd you've you've you've played your full oats and you enjoyed them. Yeah, I think you'd find something in this. If you can put that to a side and just play it as as a separate game, try not to compare it to No Man's Sky. Um, you'll you'll probably find some enjoyment. I'd figure that more as sort of a space adventure rather than a space sim and and see what you think. But yeah, I think I'd be interested.

SPEAKER_04 57:16

I've I've well I like Outer Worlds, and basically this is that. So I don't know why I've never really because Outer Worlds has no planet to space transitions, if as it's got no space activity at all, you just watch this ship on a loading screen, you know. So I've been a bit unfair, but the way it was sold to me initially was as like no man's sky, really. So when it didn't hit in that way, it was a bit like it's disappointing. I kind of see the fallout bits, and that's great, but I want to be able to fly my ship around as and when I please.

SPEAKER_07 57:48

And also for someone like you who have been new to the game, who they could really do with encouragement to play at, Todd Harrow doesn't really help himself by saying things like this, like, oh, if you're new to the game, you're not gonna find anything different in that you know, that's not really for you, but if you're a fan of the game, you might find some new content.

SPEAKER_04 58:03

I hope that I can become a fan of the game, but uh definitely I'd give it a go. Well, I'm holding off until the update, that's for sure. Um, here's a little bit of news that should set your eyes on stalks.

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Ollie Reynolds over at uh Ollie Trinity, baby.

SPEAKER_04 58:21

Nintendo Life has uh some quite fascinating news here, RGT. It's it's great news, but to me it's veiled in a bit of a spiky glove, if I may say so. Ollie says Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green officially revealed for Switch. Nintendo is seemingly revealed Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green for the Switch earlier than planned. There's a whole bunch of eShop listings now live on the eShop. Priced at$16.99 or$19.99 if you've the American persuasion, each with a launch date, the 27th of February, Pokemon Day, of course. This release has bypassed Nintendo Switch Online entirely, meaning you can now own the games digitally a la carte. There'll be a physical edition Japan in Japan, which looks incredible by the way, although the game itself will still be a code in the box. Nintendo of America has put out an FAQ saying these games will not receive physical releases. Um releasing Fire Green and Leaf Red is a pretty big move to acknowledge Pokemon's 30th anniversary, much like the launch of classic titles on the 3DS almost 10 years ago for the 20th celebrations. Each version of the game is available, each language version of the game is available to download separately, so be aware if you're pre-ordering on the eShop to get the language that you want. The titles will be available shortly after Pokemon presents showcase on the 27th. So we'll be sure to keep an eye out for any further anniversary announcements from the Nintendo and the Pokemon company. RGT, great news. Um frustrating that maybe we don't get I was I've always been hoping that we might get red or blue on the um Nintendo Switch Online Game Boy emulator section. Um but this to me proves that although we don't have that uh ability at the moment on Nintendo Switch 2, we don't have the ability to play those games currently, that system isn't on there. Um this is starting to make me think that Game Freak probably want to make another game for the PlayStation 5 and have decided to charge a not inconsequential$19.99 for this game. I'm happy it's coming. I think it's gonna be fun. I think it's actually a relatively decent price point uh uh to some degree, if a little obscene. Um but hey, what's your thoughts?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:47

At the moment, the way Pokemon card collecting and Pokemon is in the world at the moment, and they aren't gonna give us them for free. Unfortunately, Nintendo are looking thinking Pokemon is big, and also Pokemon is big at the moment in card collecting because the people who collected as kids have now got the disposable income, and it's that it's had this massive boost the last five years. Um, and I think they're just gonna think, right, let's just re-release some of these games, let's hit them in the nostalgia nerve, they'll pay 20 bucks for this time and time again. And if they got three switches in the house, they'll put it on all three switches at 60 bucks. And and and people will. I think people will will lap it up. Um, Pokemon is massive, so I you know, I think as well that'd be nice to have them dropped on Nintendo Online, but I can't see just red and blue or or yellow or yeah, just as a token of goodwill.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:46

I mean, we pay for that, and they've given us everything around the periphery of Pokemon overall for all these years, but they've never decided to quite let it go.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:55

No. And it's just I just think because of this big boost at the moment, I can see them doing code in the box. Maybe they'll release red, blue, yellow as a as a as a triple um set in a code in the box for switch two, fifty bucks. Um, you'll probably see a couple of the other older ones in a set. Do you know what I mean? Like these HD, not remasters, but re-skinned. You know, we're getting these collections now, you get shooter collections. They do well on on the switch, and I can see them going down.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:28

I agree they do well. I can't see them going down that route when they can split them up and hawk them off individually, they mate.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:35

No, I I think you're probably right.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:37

I think you know Sadly, I don't want to say this.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:40

I think any other company probably would put them as a collection.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:43

But you know, and it would be.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:45

But then again, no other company has a property this hot and this big. No, they probably never will.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:50

You know, and it's gonna be a hard pill to swallow if you're getting a Game Boy game as a one-only game on a Switch 2. You you know, you might want to add a bit of digital art book and bits in there for that because it's gonna, you know, it's it's not a big game for but if they do it, it will sell. It will sell. Pokemon is hot property and the hottest property at the moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:12

It's a money-making machine.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:14

I watch a few, um, I watch a few YouTube channels of shops in America, um, and they've all, you know, a couple of them didn't have Pokemon cards. It's now their biggest section of the retro game shop. They yeah, and they as quicker stuff come in, they literally run the shop around their game shops, but they run the shop round the Pokemon, they have trade nights, they have, you know, because you got you got new people into Pokemon cards, the young children of today, and they're doing it with their dads who are in their late 30s, early 40s, who collected back in the day and they come in with the files and they swap and trade and bits and bits, and the cards they're selling, they're selling thousands of pounds worth a week of cards, thousands of pounds, because it's it's the hottest thing at the moment, and I think Nintendo will will be all over that, absolutely all over it.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

Outrageous.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:03

You know, a lot of people moaned about you know, Z2A, the last Pokemon game. You know, it looked like an old engine and looked like an early Switch game and blah blah blah. Still sold. That's the danger, it's still sold, so you know, yeah, it's it's it's a is a big passion for that. Um yeah, 20 bucks code in the box is I've they've probably looked at prices of games and thought I was thinking that let's just undercut it a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:35

To go pay this for one of these loose carts. I mean, what can we get away with?

Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen Hit Switch

SPEAKER_07 1:04:40

Yeah, if they're paying 30 quid for a loose cart, let's stick it to 20, we'll lure them in over to buy it for a bit cheaper on a new system, they ain't got to buy the old system, we'll make bank, you know, and they will. Yeah, they will.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:52

Yeah, no, but it feels a very calculated move. I know these things always are, but this feels super calculated, almost feels like you've been snipered in the back of their head, and that's where a little bit of my they know what they're doing. Fair play to them, but wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:07

Um they know how to sell a property and they will milk at a property, you know, Mario.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:12

Oh, I was gonna say, this is maximum extraction every single time. I think it goes my capture them.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:18

Yeah, I think the only one that they've always struggled to get mega numbers for is Metroid. Um but anything else that you know, Donkey Kong to I mean Donkey Kong was an arcade game in the 80s, and they're still managing to sell millions. They know how to hang out a property. Do you see in 40 years' time The Last of Us still making games? No. But for some reason, Nintendo they know how to do their properties, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:43

And I think Metroid is one of those ones that you bring out. I mean, before you could bring out three games in a gen almost, but I think now it's like once a gen, once every other gen, pleases the fans, ignites some interest in the franchise, gets them in the back catalogue. You know, and over the course of its lifetime sales on that system, it probably gets to a place where it's kind of okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:08

I think, yeah, I think when they done Metroid Tread, they tried to take it back to the 2D routes. Um I bought that game, it's a very good game, it's a tough game. But if you liked your Super Metroid, you'd be all over this.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:19

If you liked your fusion and that I think they kind of tried it before though, didn't they? When they tried on is it Metroid Other M? What was that? That was a mess, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_07 1:06:27

That was on the that was on the Wii. Wii, yeah. But they used they used motion controls. That was a bit random, but it was. Um and they tried it with that, and even then, I think with going back to the 2D to hit the nostalgia nerve, that it I think it sold less than a million, it was like 800, 900,000. Um, but the hardcore Metroid fans will always buy the games, so there's they're not going to get rid of Metroid. They'll just keep every now and then.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:52

That's what I'm releasing. That's where it's at now.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:54

Yeah, and that keeps that fan base on your system. You know, if you take Metroid away, you potentially lost quite a few people who go over and play as you know an X a 2D sort of Metroidvania on something else. But if you keep promising a Metroid game, we now had um Prime 4 as well, which I've still got to play as well, but um, and that's gone down pretty well, I think. But will you see another Metroid Prime for Walt?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:16

No. I think we won't see one for a long time. No, and I think it may end up being a bit of a reboot because at this point there's not really anywhere else I can go.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:25

No, I'm still lots of haven't got that to play. I'm looking forward to playing that, but um, yeah, it'd be interesting. But yeah, I've yeah, it doesn't surprise me with Nintendo. Whether you think it's wrong or right, you listeners out there. I mean, let us know. Questions at Unafficient Controller Podcast.com or jump on our Discord, let us know whether it's right or wrong, they know how to sell a product.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:44

Well, to that end, RGT, it brings us to the end of the news. Yeah. Um pretty eventful week. Um what with some Starfield rumblings, but it's not 2.0, don't think that. No, no, don't you think that with some Nintendo classics coming back, but uh your old friends know how to charge? Quite a lot, I would say without a doubt, and Sony's shutting down Blue Point and RGT's portent of doom is it might be the first, but it won't be the last. No, uh definitely not. Sadly, as expectations reframe around our beloved gaming hobby, uh, grown men playing with children's toys. Um you gotta wonder where the industry's going in the future, RGT.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:34

Yeah, it's uh it's at the moment the the game companies don't know it's so uncertain ground at the moment, and they don't know themselves.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:42

And it feels a bit fractured. I don't think Sony's push for live service was a mistake. I do think there's an element of future gaming that lies there.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:50

I think their mistake was going all in. I think they should have just kept it alongside the single player big games because that's what everyone left, that's why you had a PlayStation.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:59

So I think Helldivers would have been the right cadence. I think if they haven't if they hadn't tainted the well with because I'm gonna rock I'm gonna rock the boat here, from all intents and purposes, Concorde wasn't wasn't garbage.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:13

No, it failed before it launched.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:15

It attracted such a headwind of bad feeling and negative press because all the single player games had disappeared and all the talk was about these service live service games. I think Concorde for that reason was unexpected unfairly probably targeted with um derision about the PlayStation fan base's anger at where the system was going. Yeah, I think if they'd had Helldivers, Rest, Concorde, Rest, something else, but new marathon, maybe. Yeah, marathon, we're at that point, there's the cadence. There was no need to whore out your family jewels, was there?

SPEAKER_07 1:09:56

No, no, definitely not.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:58

There wasn't. And then you've got to look at yourself and think, well, if they hadn't done that, where would we be? I think some of the games that felt like they came a bit late, Ghost of Yotai, Death Stranding 2, it felt like an age for, didn't it? Not that they were directly involved in it, but there's certainly some scheduling and release windows you've got to fit round. And I think that scheduling and release window that felt like Sony were doing nothing is exactly right where all these live service games would have dropped. Bam, bam, bam, bam, there you go. Clean up game of the year or two. Let's get out of here, boys. Um, drop my mic drop. It's not how it went down.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:36

No, and I think like you say, with with where the gaming spaces going, who would have thought two years ago Xbox would have completely done a U-turn on you know, subscription games, not so much they're still doing games buffs, but to suddenly sell on your competitor's system, you know, just to put your main games over, and literally that's how uncertain it is, and this is how quick this crash is hitting. That they've just gone right, game pass. We need to change direction here. We've bought these studios, you know, we're putting these games on, we're just not getting the traction. We need to sell games now. Where are we gonna sell them? Stick them on the PS5, you know, and even some games are gonna be coming to Switch 2. Um, yeah, they're just trying to recoup money quick because you know, these these companies they they can see three, four, five years ahead of the stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:25

But who would have thought, mate, with the money that they'd spent on Indiana Jones to secure that franchise to pump the system, to sell the system, that would end up being on the Switch 2. Imagine saying that to an Xbox 360 owner.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:40

Yeah, yeah. So it's and I think they're all just trying to plot a bit now, and they've like I say they look four or five years ahead. It's uncertain ground because they don't know, but they're all trying to think where it's gonna go. Xbox is trying to do damage limitation, let's get some money back in, or Microsoft Microsoft is, I shouldn't say Xbox, Microsoft is saying we need to get money back in now, you spent billions, we're not getting a return. Start selling the games, which has been working, they've been selling great guns on on PlayStation.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:08

Um, Nintendo and Nintendo I feel that's a little bit embarrassing because it sh it shows you that your own fan base would have paid big money for these games in the in the traditional method if you hadn't abandoned it, and therefore uh go you'd be sat on a pile of cash and a pile of happy gamers that buy what they want when they want and don't buy what they want when they don't want it. And maybe a smaller level of I mean, I don't I think I think the way Sony handled the Games Pass uh their version has been awful. There's there's I go there on the portal, sure. Get disinterested and play my own games in the end.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:50

The thing is for people like me, and you have been in the ecosystem quite a few years.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:54

When we say this, don't we, about all streaming systems.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:57

Um when when like on premium and you get Last of Us Part 2 drops on there, you get Demon's Souls drops on there, you get Red Dead Redemption 2, or you get blah blah blah, we've already played them. So you know, it it's good for bringing new people onto the system. But for me and you, we've played a lot of them, and there always scenes with these with these systems, even PlayStation Premium, there's a hell of a lot on there, probably a thousand games, but there's nothing on there as well. Yeah, because you just it's it's that streaming service. We said this a thousand times Netflix syndrome. You can have everything put on a plate offered to you, and you can't find out which one you want. So, you know, it's it's funny.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:35

Well, we all experienced that with our libraries, our physical libraries. Yeah, exactly. I spend as much time staring at the shelf as I do playing the game.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:43

Exactly, yeah. Yeah, hence why this Gen 7 playthrough on our on our Discord has been an absolute godsend, because I've stuck to the games and played for. I've got a list of all these games I've been completing on PS3 and Xbox 360 in a brilliant, absolutely loving it. That's the way to play. Pick a game and see it through and play it with friends.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:03

The man who finishes games, new t-shirt idea.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:06

Bada bingstick on it. I thought we already had that. Yeah, what an RGT one. On the back.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:20

Okay. They don't know the off-screen you, do they? Oh my god. No, they get hints of it, they get shades of it. It manifests itself every now and then, but they don't know the real you.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:37

What do you mean like when all my family fortunes played a switch? Yes. And then if anyone disturbs me, it's just a short, sharp, high-pitched screen. Shuts them all up.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:55

If you did that round me, I'll pop something in your mouth. Whatever came to hand to be fair.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:03

Strawberry spirit.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

Nothing that nice. Anyway, shall we move on? Probably an HP number two pencil, so I embed a little bit of lead in the back of your throat.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:17

Got away with that. Lovely.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:21

Let's do some round robins. Let's say that uh if you're listening to this show, well done. Congratulations. If you're watching this show, heck you're the winner. You've seen two grown men talk about kids' toys for an over a longer period of time. And you've hung around, so fair play to you. I like the look of you. Don't forget to hit subscribe, like, share. I don't know what you're pressing down here. You've probably just clicked on some other podcast video. That's a danger. Um, but there you go. Want to thank everyone for the reviews, the views, the listens. Um, thank you very much. Um, loving to see the comments coming in on the YouTube. Love to see all the activity in the Discord on Mars Behind. I think I'm in spring twenty-three, to be fair. Um, I'll get caught up.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:07

Uh yeah, you'd answer that question someone asked you three years ago.

Industry Direction: Live Service, Delays, And Strategies

SPEAKER_04 1:16:13

Uh I will, I'll get there. Um, if you're watching us on video, congratulations. Um, it's Wednesday. Uh, if you're listening to this, it's Sunday morning or Monday, you're on your way to work. Commiserations, but you know what? I'm here with you.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:27

Um don't forget Tuesday, you get a slice of the other show that we do called Flashback, which is a slice of retro nostalgia where RGT goes into the UCP vault, pulls out a magazine from a certain point in time, um, and we retell that as if it's right now and then. So we go through the games we would have been playing in 1993 as an example. We talk about the news of that month, June 1993, as an example, and then we talk about what we're hoping to play with the UCP legend returning in full viscous form over on Flashback, aka as we call it, Flashy B. Um, yeah, I like that abbreviation, but flashy B for those that know, they know. Um exactly, got another banging episode in the lineup. I think an early 2000s episode or late 2000s episode RGT we might have for them this week.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:24

Yes, yes, that'll be sort of mid-2000s, I think, in the naughty.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:27

So, but we changed things up, so don't be surprised it's not, you know, 1989.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:33

Yeah, we've covered we've covered from 92 right into early 2000s, the mid-late 90s, with you know, there's 11 episodes there of just random months of random years, and yeah, go go and check us out.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:44

No, and as RGT mentioned, we've got a great Discord channel, uh, lots of wonderful people on there doing lots of encouraging things. Um, very inclusive place, lots of people making new best friends for life, which is wonderful to see. Um, lots of interactive stuff if you want to get involved. Quizzes, uh, playthroughs, trophy, combination trophy, achievement, end of the year uh prize as well. Always little bits and bobs dropping on this. Keep your eyes peeled, get involved. Best thing about all this stuff that we've talked about, though, RGT, is it costs zero pounds and zero pence. Some would argue. That's a really price. Um bring us into your life for over half of the week. Um we take your pain away in some way, shape, or form. We make yourself feel okay. That job at work that's really boring, stick the headphones on, listen to RGT wax lyrical about a failed game pass strategy.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:45

If you're new to the show and you listen to this one and think this is pretty decent. Well, if you want to while away the whole week, download the back catalogue. Oh over 300 shows, over 300 shows here. You can go back to the early stuff to retrospectives of consoles and launches and games and bits and pieces right through to where we are now. So, yeah, there's plenty to download. Download them all, get them in a library and just listen your way through.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:08

And if you want to go chasing things, we filmed an episode we recorded an episode on a submarine. We we recorded an episode in a plane crash. It's some mad lore. We recorded an episode in a courtroom, go find it, go hunt it.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:25

We've had Rashid Future, we've had Ashens, we've had Mike Rouse, we've had M Dicky. M Dickey as well, yeah. Game developer fame.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:34

So we've had even classic retro celebrities like Dave Perry from Games Master.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:40

Yeah, I think we've had a good slew RGT. Yeah, it's a good smoggers board there, so yeah, get down low and never listen. So uh, yeah, that's good. Plenty to listen to to while you work at work week away.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:52

So and as we say, best bit is it's free, but you can support the show. We don't tell you to, we just say that you can. And from as little as three dollars a month, and that's three dollars, that's not real money, that's like monopoly money, as far as I'm concerned. It works out to be about£2.70, which is the sort of money you kind of just throw away. So if you're throwing that money away, you might as well throw it generally in our direction because the benefits RGT are immeasurable. For three dollars, you're gonna get a readout on the show. What else are you gonna get?

SPEAKER_07 1:20:24

Um, you get access to the unglorious chat in the Discord, and we we were doing or are currently still do a Zoom meetup, but we are in discussions at the moment that's slightly changing it. Hence, there's been a bit of a delay. So if you all do subs, we are we're gonna change it up. The reason we're changing it up, um it's not because we don't want to do it anymore, it's because we want to give you something that you can all get as subs. Whereas on the night, you might only get five people turn up, you might get 15 people turn up, but people are still missing out from a benefit which they're paying for. So we'd rather give you something what you can all have at any time. So we're in discussions with that at the moment, so yeah, we'll change up, but you won't want to make out yeah, it's been niggling me.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:09

Um my inability at times to get on even one of these quarterly zoom calls has been uh it's been bad form, and I'm looking at putting that right, as RGT says, by switching things up a little bit. Don't worry. The good news is you get even more.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:27

Yeah, definitely. So it's something that you'll you'll get more out of, and you could all have it when you want it, rather than if you can't make the call, you've missed out. We don't think that's quite fair, but we'll um in the unglorious chat, we'll we'll drop something over in there in the next week or two and and let you know what our plans are for that and see what you think.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:45

What else can they get, RGT?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:47

Oh well, you get um so you'll get the new thing that's coming, you'll get um Unglorious Chat, you get read out on every show, and as you go up to five dollars, part of that one, you'll get those three plus a yearly bit of art merch. If you go up to eight dollars, you get a bit of yearly art merch and you get a mug. If you go up to ten dollars, you get a bit of art merch, you get a mug, and you get a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:09

So is my special Georgie package running still? I think it is, isn't it? I don't think I put a timestamp on it. Don't think so, no. So if you join up now for as little as three dollars, you're immediately gonna get sent a t-shirt. Is that correct? You get sent an unofficial controller podcast t-shirt, yes. Take us up on that, right? Because even if you paid$3, by the end of the year you've got a t-shirt for hang on a minute, they're robbing us. That's how we want it, though, isn't it?

SPEAKER_07 1:22:35

Yeah, that's that is a bargain. That is a bargain.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:37

We don't want to get cash overburdened, but it's very useful for us to help do things with the show, help us promote the show, yes, to produce the things that we give away to be able to. Is there anything you can announce about that at the moment?

SPEAKER_07 1:22:53

Um, yes, we are now confirmed as being at OLL26 in Epic TV studios in Norwich on the 11th of April on a Saturday, which is being hosted by the one and only Dominic Diamond.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:06

We finally made it, boy.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:08

Yeah, so um, yes, we will be there. We've got a we're gonna have a little table there like we did before at OLL, which to be fair, out of all the venues we've done and all the things we've done, OLL is one of the very best. There's great ones.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:21

We're not getting the small table.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:23

No. Well, I'll I'll talk to you about tables, but anyway, um, yes, we'll be big table. I know what you wanted. Um you always want it big. Um, so um, yeah, so we'll be we'll be there with a bit of UCP, a bit of flashback. We'll be um, yeah, there'll be bits and pieces there. Come and have a chat, come and say hi. I s I would imagine you'll have all your usual regulars as it's in Norwich. You'll have Ashens there, and there'll be a lot of guests and bits and pieces. The lovely Stuart.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:53

So I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, there's normally Slopes will be there, I bet.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:58

I would imagine so. Slopes, Kim Justice, you know, all the all the really good ones who have, you know, normally round at the end of the together.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:07

Flashback versus UCP versus flashback. Around, big table, huge table. It's like Bruce Wayne's dining table. You're at one and I'm like, oh GT, can you pass me the salt? Then you turn up three weeks later with a beard, like, here you go, mate. That's the sort of table I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:29

Yeah, so if if if you listen or if you're new, come and say hi if you're going to the show. So it should be good as is events on and stage and bits and pieces, so that'll be a good day.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:39

We look forward to seeing you. We'll be doing some shenanigans, no doubt. Probably. Um, we tended to record there before that didn't work out, did it?

SPEAKER_07 1:24:47

So no, it's a different venue this time. So we'll we'll see what we can do as far as live things go. Um, if if we can, we will. If not, we might be able to catch a few people for a bit of a chat and um we'll definitely do a giveaway though, won't we?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:03

A Stingrace boot style giveaway, I think.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:05

We'll do a giveaway. We'll probably have a bit of merch here as well. So if you fancy grabbing yourself, uh I'm now currently having a Flashy B t-shirt design being done. So we'll have some Flashy B t-shirts there, I would imagine. We'll have some UCP stuff, um, bitter artwork, we'll have some bits and pieces. So yeah, keep an eye out for us. You'll see us, you'll see us, you'll probably hear us before you see us, but we'll be we'll get some um we'll put a shout out as well because we might need some um team member support, might we not? Yes, yes, we will. So um hopefully we'll get hopefully me, you and Scott will be there. Um so uh Scott on a stand with us.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:48

Yes. Oh, I can't.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:51

I don't promise yet, he's trying to make it if he can. So uh Oh Scotty Betty says I'm even going yet. Well you are.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:02

Am I contractually obliged? Am I on the poster?

SPEAKER_07 1:26:06

Well you will be, yeah. You're the main man, I know wants to see me on the poster, no one will turn up. I'll kill his.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:12

Oh wait, I'm not doing the post unless you're on the poster. And Scotty's got to be on the poster, and then we need to airbrush in Seb as well. Yeah. Maybe use the artwork.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:23

Yeah, do that, and I'll do. But yeah, so yeah, 11th of April, get your tickets as well. Go over to just Google OLL tickets and you'll see them. I think they're on Eventbrite, I think they might be. But yeah, you can go over, get your tickets, and um we'll hopefully see you there. Should be good.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:42

Very much so. Um RGT, to that end, we must thank the people that do pay us on the regular. We definitely must. Every single month. Um I'm gonna go first because I mean, why not? I don't even know anymore or care about whether I'm gonna get Zangief or not, because I own the Zangief. I am the Zangief. I am the human walking Zangief.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:06

Without a doubt.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:07

Okay, well, straight away then, let's cut straight into it. Um as I thank the beloved strong, stoic, heroic, Captain Scarlet.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:18

Owen, many happy returns for this week.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:21

Happy birthday!

SPEAKER_07 1:27:22

I hope you enjoyed your fish and chips.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:24

I I saw that flash up on our thing, and I I've been a busy boy. I have been a bit of a big boy.

SPEAKER_07 1:27:30

Yeah, you've been away all week. You've been away all week. Happy birthday, good sir. Yes, I hope you had a good one, mate. Um, next up we have the wonderful Retro Ed, who I will hopefully be meeting for the first time next week in Bristol. We're going over to the Bristol Gamer Market. There's a few of the Discord are going. I think Scott might be going as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:47

Is it now that we announce what you and Retro Ed are wearing as your fancy dress?

SPEAKER_07 1:27:51

This is the first on me, so it's going to be interesting.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:54

I'm a little jealous because I always thought it was what we were going to do. But I understand that you two are going as Master Blast. From Max Max 3.

Community, Events, And Supporter Shoutouts

SPEAKER_07 1:28:03

Master Blaster.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:05

Yeah, you're not him.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:07

If I send you a picture of me in retroid, it's Master Blaster.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:14

I'll have to borrow your leather gear. Yeah, no worries, mate. Yeah, just wipe it down.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:20

Anyway, who we got next?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:22

Up next, a man who does not need wiping down because he's permanently dry. Not in that way. He just doesn't sweat. Not in that way. Whoa, digging a hole here. He does sweat. No, he does. Uh, and he can sweat naturally. We don't want to tie him with that brush. But it's my one-man army, one man George fan club. It's the only fan I've got, and I'm very grateful for him. It's Carlos. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:46

Yes, and he's still, I know I say this every week, but as soon as we do a flashback and he's listened to it, he's popping up import games from the year I know. I know he is. Oh man, I'd love to just uh sit down in a pub with him, have a few points, and just talk about his game and history.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:02

No, I want to be in his house sniffing his games.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:07

Anyway, next up we have the Why is that weird? One minute you're standing outside Stork and poor George in CEX were standing looking at him through the window for an hour. I see. Now you're wanting to sniff a subscriber's games.

unknown 1:29:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:21

You know, this has got to stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:24

You're thinking about it and doing it.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:28

Yeah. Me and the board are gonna have to keep an eye on you.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:35

The committee.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:37

Um next up we have the wonderful firm returns. So if you want any uh financial advice and you want to be firm and you want to get a return on your money, you need to go and see firm returns. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you very much. I know what you're thinking, and I thought of that after I said it. Who's next?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:01

Someone who I want to be firm. It's Silverhook Electrical Contact Cleaner. Uh big sponsor.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:08

Uh I don't know about. Don't forget their 500 milliliter can of electrical contact cleaner is all you need for your retro gaming needs. Who's next, RGT?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:18

Next up, we have the wonderful Trestles of New York, long-term supporters of the show, and we thank you very much indeed for your continued support, so thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:27

Well done, Trestles. Hopefully, get over and see you soon. Up next, he cuts a fine figure of a man. He's a keeper of the piece. He's a wonderful looking man, and some say he's got a big piece. It's Rice Space Monk.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:43

And he's also, if you don't know, he's um going for a full dreamcast collection. He's had a bit of a dreamcast little spur at the moment. So he's been dropping a few games on onto uh onto our uh listeners' stingray. So I don't know. Let us know in there, mate, what where what number you're up to, because I'm I would imagine you're getting close to a full collection there. But yeah, he's not I say he's a little bit more than a little bit. Just a little spurt, just a little spurt, you know. One or two has just dropped on there. I reckon if yeah, I think if he uh if he got a big bonus at work, then he'd have a massive spurt, I spent.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:17

Oh god, won't we all? Uh next.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:22

Uh Italian stallion. Everybody stand up, sir. And salute Italian flag, gaming controller emoji and everybody sit down now, sir. Stammy Ben.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:38

Cha beautiful. I did an old school Badabinkster.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:44

Oh, and Badabinkster, I know I still haven't uploaded your artwork you've done for me on the hidden gems for them last few. GT. Listen, listen. Here's the reason. No, I'd written them all out, and you can't edit on I'd written I'd wrote them all out. And and you can't edit, add the pictures back in. I've got to delete and write them all out again. You can't do that. So that's my fault. So I've got to do them all again. So I will do and I will add them on when I get a chance. But yes, thank you again.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:17

This is what happens when you upgrade from Crayon.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:19

Yeah, exactly. Give me technology and I'll ruin it. A spectrum, I'll load a tape, that is it. Um, next up we have the wonderful Tingletuner, and well done on running that marathon. It looked like a monsoon the other day. Well done on that. You were running through like knee-deep water.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:36

I mean, I think what you need to remember about Tingletuner, mate, is that he moves that quick and that stealthily that he did not even get wet.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:46

That's either that or he heard he maybe heard that in the CX there was a rare fire emblem RPG, and there was only one copy left, so he went cross country rocket together. Knee deep water through ribs.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:59

I had a whack 500 miles and I would walk 500 more just to squeeze that small fire emblem can bring him back to my ho.

SPEAKER_07 1:33:14

Jeez. Contact cleanup. Thank you anyway. Who we got next in George?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:20

I haven't stopped talking about that wonderful human being yet. Um but moving on to another wonderful human being. His initials are DM. That doesn't stand for danger mouse. It stands for digital monkery. He's one of the root and took in Winchester boys, contractually obliged now to lock in on that because apparently artwork reasons. Yeah. But some also know him as the Jane Fonda of the Discord because he likes to get quizzical. All I know is his name's Digital Munkery. And thank you, sir, for all that you do.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:04

Yeah, thank you as always, fella. Um, next up we have the awesome Bald Border. Thank you, my man, as always. No longer.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:16

Next rolling in a preemptive strike under the TV facility in Norwich's outer security gate. Comes Boba Loba going brown. He's abseiled off the roof, RGT, and he's planted sticky bombs on all the strategic locations to make sure that we get maximum, much like a flasher, exposure at OLL.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:42

Awesome. He's the guy for that job as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:44

He is. It's Boba Loba. He's gone brown and he's took down Norwich Town.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:51

Oh, nice. You're trying to do a bit of a Mike Skinner slash Scott Marathon game in here, aren't you?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:57

No, I didn't I don't know. More of like a this year in cinemas, Boba comes back. This time he's going brown. And he's taking Norwich down.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:14

Anyone good bevay, okay? We need a trailer for that. Explosion's the lot. Full go and break.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:25

Here he comes, like shooting from the hip. To all the young listeners that that follow the show, I know there's a lot of you, that was the theme tune to the A team. It was a big show in the A's. Google it. Google it. Uh I'm not gonna bore I'm not gonna bore you with it now. Um we both zoomed at the same time. You better do this one. Ah, my beloved. I rocked him on my knee. Um, although I entered his family, not him, his family, uh, when he was already a full grown man. Um unfortunately didn't work out with his mother, but the good thing is it worked out with him. He's my stepson from a woman I don't even talk to anymore. Yeah, I still love him as if he ejected from my own cassette deck.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:17

My god.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:18

Thanks, Gin.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:19

Yeah, cheese ginge, as always, the platinum god.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:22

Um next up we are Getting Ginge, get in touch if that's what you want. I think, as my son, you can request whatever shout-out you need. Um and if they aren't hitting it, uh, because I uh I heard in the editing room the other day the talk of Ginge sucking on a big red hard fairground dummy candy with a little plastic, blue, light blue plastic thing on the end with a little piece of what ribbon through it, the red ribbon that's been pulled and it's just reefed up round there. Uh hitting a glancing blow on the vicar, actually would have been dead. And then, yeah, I thought to myself, hmm, have we jumped the shark here? But I think that probably that probably happened episode four. Yeah, that is a trick.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:09

Um, next up we have the wonderful Harvey Retro which bit me in episode four until now, or just red candy.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:16

Oh, right, yeah. But it has been.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:19

Yeah, we leapt and didn't land, we just kept going.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:22

Oh mate, if you ever get the chance to listen to the trailer, I think it's still on YouTube for the for the show. There's me in a suit and tie.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:30

Oh, hello, welcome to the out of a roller bike. I see real voice.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:35

Read from absolutely out being read from that. Probably is actually not far off.

SPEAKER_07 1:37:42

Um, but yeah, thank you, Harvey Retro. We did watch your Argos catalogue one this week. That was absolutely brilliant. I love these.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:48

Um I love the price. I caught him hot step on somewhere doing a price comparison of mask toys using inflation, and he was like, Oh, I have to I have to count to you. I'm gonna count to you here, Harvey. Because$9.99 in whatever it was was a fair amount of money, but$26.99 comparatively. I'd have been dripping it mask.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:12

And I did look it was a steal at 89 quid for Boulder Hill. I was like, come on, get your wallet out, Harvey. What's wrong with your boy?

SPEAKER_07 1:38:20

I liked his uh he picked his bed spread and got a Thundercat's bed spread, which was uh oh awesome.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:25

But yeah, where does the Ives Thunder land on there? Is it mid-crotch or what?

SPEAKER_07 1:38:30

I'll have to re-re-watch that on YouTube and see.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:33

So Javi, I'd love to know.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:36

Yeah, Elomatic uh retro rewind, I think his channel's called, but just yeah, type in Elligmatic and you'll find it. But yeah, brilliant channel for all that sort of thing.

unknown 1:38:43

Really?

SPEAKER_04 1:38:44

As we transitioned to teenagers, we took our childhood bedding with us, but let's face it, it probably didn't survive the teenage years for reasons.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:54

A little bit of hardboard in there. Um we got next.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:58

Dad sanded it down, cut in strips and using his skirting board. Jesus, right.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:06

Okay, yeah, okay. What do you think your skirt board's made out of boy?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:12

Your teenage sheet? Exactly!

SPEAKER_04 1:39:15

Yeah, everyone installs their teenage sheets in their son's house as chip buttons.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:22

It's not paper macho. Anyway, who we got next?

SPEAKER_04 1:39:27

If you get a flood, don't drink the water. Um up next, I do believe it's my privilege and honour to thank Emma Sharp for her for her dedication, support the show, and a monthly sub. Thank you, Emma.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:41

Yeah, thank you, Emma.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:42

And then we have well Was he where I said he was? I don't know, I haven't heard. He's very quiet, he's gone very clandestine. I don't think he dare allow his professionalism to get tarred up with the show.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:00

And also because he keeps his location very secret, I think he's worried if he contacts, we might be able to lock in and trace him.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:08

I think we're his guilty secret.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:10

I think so.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:11

I think I think he turns us down when his mumsy comes in.

SPEAKER_07 1:40:14

Yeah, I think so. With a guilty pleasure.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:20

What sort of sick and twisted border is he living in where we're his guilty pleasure?

SPEAKER_07 1:40:25

Wow, I think you'll find that you're quite a few people's guilty pleasure. Um that he's nowhere near Berlin. Thank you, Greg, as always. Wow. Speaking of guilty pleasures, who we got next, George? Mumsy.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:46

Thank you for that. Thanks so much, Mumsy. Why would she be a guilty pleasure? I don't feel guilty pleasuring my mother.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:53

Do you?

SPEAKER_07 1:40:55

I think that might be where you're from. Um next up we have the RGT fan club. Thank you as always. Uh yeah, brilliant. Really appreciate the support.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:06

You never gone down with Mumsey to shops or anything like that? Who we got next? Bought her a bought her a present there, jewellery, pearl necklace, something like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:15

Who we got next, St. George? Geez. My god. If you're still tuned in, thank you very much for your.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:26

I didn't know quite where I was going when I set off, but then I was like, nor did I, that's why I was trying to change subject, but I didn't.

SPEAKER_07 1:41:31

Why would you? This is the UCP, it's not flashy beer.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:33

I think we've both been very guilty. Nah, I've woke up back end of the show. I was like, no, this has been way too this has been way too like stayed. We were like two news journalists in this show up to this point. Quite a nice change.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:47

So we got to oh well we can't it can't always be like that. We never are like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:54

This today we were. This is just one of those moments where I've just had an out-of-body experience and realised that we've been very grown up. Sort of, yeah. Don't let it carry on. No, I won't. Up next, it's my pleasure and my honour to say thank you to the RGT fan club for everything you do. I've already done that. You don't read out your own fan club. I've just done it. But thanks for giving them a double shout. Mum and dad in one. Uh so next, okay, right. Well tell you a story about this guy. My good god.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:32

Oh no.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:33

Buckle up. During the space race, Russia and America fought very hard over Ginge and Pete Brocklehurst. Because underneath all the smoke and mirrors of flames and uh rocket fuel was actually two men just oofing these things up into space. And he's famous for it. His name's Pete Brocklehurst. Some say it's significant in the next evolution of technology is Leo Spitz. Oh wow. Yeah. For what he single-handedly did. Ginge, on the other hand, over in Russia, he had a bit of a bad doo. He I think he lobbed uh kiker the dog into the wrong orbit, got a bit upset, bless him, because no one likes to see a dog get hurt, do they? You know, watch a million people get shot, but one dog gets shot in a film, people walk out. So Ginger's upset about this, and um he nearly wanged you Yuri Gagarin into orbit around the around Mars, but he only had enough food for an up and down, so it was a bit of a tight I'd do.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:33

Wondered where you were going then. Thanks, Pete. Brain had to correct a word then. Um which bit did I um was it oofed it?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:42

Was it oofed it up and down? No, it was wanged. Um, he wanged it.

SPEAKER_07 1:43:49

Yes, that's a bloody good way of describing that. It is, but I thought you were going down a different route. Next up we have Billy Marmite. Thank you very much again. Um, as always, Billy. Don't forget if you want to join Discord, come jump on, say hi if you want to.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:03

Okay. Which means I get Are you gonna give me direction for this RGT or just want I just want you to freestyle it.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:20

These singing lessons have gone a bit far.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:29

Oh wow, that sounded like a guilty pleasure phone down job, that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:36

Yeah, I got a bit tantric, so there's a couple of bits stuck in my backpipes, when it finally came out, it was it was quite the journey.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:44

Um kind of unspooled like toothpaste out of a tube.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:49

Wow. Anyway, thanks to all the subscribers. Um sorry about that ending. That's probably not what you want to hear, especially if you're eating your tea. Um, but thanks for stopping. George is gone at the moment. He's um yeah, he's uh had far too much contact cleaner today.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:09

Oh wow, mate, it's just like the most solid show. Like, you're out, you're tits on contact cleaner.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:16

Aye, how dare you!

SPEAKER_03 1:45:18

I've got to make some excuse for you. I'm checking I'm just I'm just off the chain, crazy. Crazy off the chain. I'm Cliff, baby.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:32

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:34

Anyway. I don't think the show's got enough Cliff Richard in it, actually. You know, of all those 80s heroes, never been proven to be guilty. He is the saviour's day. Apparently so. Yeah. Do you sing the Millennium Prayer to get yourself to sleep at night or yeah, daily.

SPEAKER_07 1:45:57

That's how I get that's how I get Mrs. RGT off to sleep.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:00

If we ever need to change a theme tune to this show, I think I'm gonna make a large vote for that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:07

My god. I'd be final nailing the coffin of the show.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:11

Wide for sound?

SPEAKER_07 1:46:13

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:14

That's good, days.

What We’re Hoping To Play Next

SPEAKER_07 1:46:17

Stereo. Shall we get on to what we're hoping to play?

SPEAKER_04 1:46:22

Harvey retro is buzzing right now. It's like, yeah, George, bang them out, mate. Everyone else is like, nah, we're done. What have you been playing what are you hoping to play, you little snake? Um turned on me again, didn't you? No, I don't think I noticed.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:35

Anyway, you're over your tantrum now. You can let me finish, sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:38

Give me a moment.

unknown 1:46:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:40

I am now over my tantrum. I should let you finish.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:44

Boddig accepted. Um I'm sorry. That's right, no problem.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:48

I've already accepted it. Um I'm gonna play some Gear Club free, see what that's all about, see if it's as people think. So I'm looking forward to playing that. Getting into a car game. Pepper my WhatsApp with screenshots of that. I will do. I will do. I'll do it on the old Nintendo app as well, so you get the proper pictures. And um, yeah, so placement with that. Um, I will be starting Remember Me for our Gen 7 playthrough, RGT back in the past, over on Discord. Um Final Fantasy uh 7 Rebirth has come to a bit of a halt because I just want to have the time to play it and I haven't. So I'd like to get back on there and hopefully play some more my Everk because I've been on that for a couple of weeks, and also so I'm saying I ain't got time to play out and I'm lining myself up for all this stuff, but that's all quick stuff. Um I've also had a bit of a jiggle about, so my um bar top arcade machine will be back in business this week. So I'll hopefully uh fire that up and play some of the classics on there. There's 1300 games on it, so I've got plenty to play. So a few beat-em-ups and bits and pieces, so yes, just need to get a new stool for it because it's on a stand and does my backing. So I need to have a nice little stool, sit in the corner, play some games. George is giggling away at me at the moment, so get ready for another one. Here we go. 3, 2, 1. Where you go, George?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:08

Quote unquote, I'm gonna have a nice little stool in the yeah, probably didn't phrase that the best.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:15

I'm gonna buy a comfortable stool to sit on while playing the arcade machine, your bloody child, right? What are you hoping to play? Come on, what are you hoping to play?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:27

Well, as I said, as I remembered my confessional, um, I might even try and drag Rachel back on G1 jockey because she actually got quite good at it. Um, there's a finesse to that game that I've never seen orchestrated in such a way before.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:43

Um, this is gonna start it up again on Discord, isn't it?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:49

Well, maybe not. I never realised quite the level of finesse. Like she read the field, read where the horse likes to run within the field. Yeah, there's a lot going on, more than I probably ever realised. And I was like, yeah, actually, yeah. So I might drag the PS3 version out of the loft because um it's got even more in it, hasn't it? It's got the horse breed in it as well. So I think that that might uh that that that well that's basically that's coming down. Play a bit of that. I'm gonna download that Voyager thing. I'm very interested in it. Hopefully I've piqued your interest. Sadly, it is, yes.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:27

Yeah, I don't mind that. No, don't worry me.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:29

I just didn't know if that was a licensed one or whether you just it is officially licensed, it is officially licensed about on Voyager as well. So look, I know that's probably the more one of the more popular Star Trek franchises. So yeah, give it a go.

SPEAKER_07 1:49:43

Let me know when you think it out. That'd be interesting.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:45

Well, I was hovering on Switch too, but I got a little bit confused because there's a a normal version and a super version, and then there's some DLC. And I couldn't quite work out on the Switch store if the DLC comes with it, because I think the DLC allows you to sort of carry on. After you finish the game in a procedurally generated way, possibly. It wasn't very clear, but it did say allows you to continue your journey. So I thought, hmm, okay, so I think I want that, even though I haven't even got the game yet. I think I want the extra DLC because I think I want that full package. So I just need to do a bit of research to work out which bit to get. And I'm also still super fascinated by that climbing game, the procedurally animated climbing game called Cairn. That's reviewed really well, and I keep seeing it. I think I should get that, I should get that, I should get that. So yeah, I think one or the other this weekend, and then next weekend, maybe one or of the other of the other one. I'm quite intrigued to maybe give that a shot. Um how much is Borlex Pit these days?

SPEAKER_07 1:50:51

Oof. I don't know. I don't know if it's had a sale. I would probably suggest it hasn't. Um do I need that?

SPEAKER_04 1:50:58

Because I was thinking the other day when I was in the hotel room on the Switch, I was like, these games are really good.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:03

That's what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:04

That's what I was thinking. Um then he's looking for some prices of games to tell me what I can spend on my wage. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:20

1350 on That's decent.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:23

Is that a switch to version?

SPEAKER_07 1:51:26

I think it is just a switch version. I think that it just runs better on the switch. I don't think there is actually a switch to version.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:31

Oh right. I thought there might have been a I thought there's a little pack or something you could get, so I'll have a little look-see at that as well.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:37

Yeah, um that's a great one to have for when you're travelling, it really is. So I couldn't recommend that enough. I think you'd enjoy that.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:43

Oh, because I was like, oh, these games, this is why I went on Cast and Chill, because it's like it's very it's a game, it's involving, but it's uninvolving in a way.

SPEAKER_07 1:51:53

You ain't got to overthink it yet. With Bullets Bit, you'll get a sense of progression and want to play more, yet you're not sitting there trying to play massive RPG.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:00

So yeah, which is a struggle when you're away. And I didn't the last couple of times I've not wanted to take the dock either. I just want to travel a little bit light, if I may. Um it is nice to get the dock lash up to the TV when you're away. You got a travel doc or not for the switch too, I dare I dare.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:23

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:24

So I was always a bit more. Well, just make sure that works still.

SPEAKER_07 1:52:32

Yeah, I will do, yeah. Yeah, I'll that was because Mrs. RGT uses it on a little portable screen, so right, good use it then every day.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:40

So that's that's so it's switch one and switch two, is it?

SPEAKER_07 1:52:43

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because I've got one for the switch one and wondered if it would work, but I bought a Pacific Switch 2 one, which then works with the switch. I see. I see that goes back rather than one that tries to go forward if it makes sense. Because I suppose it needs that sort of 4K gabbens to go through it, doesn't it?

Closing Thoughts And Sign-Off

SPEAKER_04 1:53:04

So it needs some sort of beep beep code in there, I think, doesn't it, to allow the the interface to happen. But I think on that note, RGT, we're lost in the weeds. I would say um thank you to everybody, and that's all we have time for this week, listeners. As always, thank you for your time. We look forward to the pleasure of speaking to you again next week. Until then, happy gaming. And remember, there's nothing wrong with being given the official controller, it's what you do that counts. See you everybody. Laders,