Leading from Being
Leading from Being with Marti Spiegelman and Todd Hoskins delves into the untapped dimensions of leadership, weaving together the possibilities within full consciousness and indigenous wisdom. This isn't another "conscious leadership" podcast – it's an invitation to experience leadership beyond our thinking minds, accessing depths of human experience that most leadership conversations never touch.
Drawing from Marti's deep work in 'precision consciousness,' grounded in both Harvard biochemistry and three indigenous wisdom traditions, and Todd's expertise in organizational design and natural systems, each episode bridges principles and practices of leadership with timeless ways of knowing. Together, they guide listeners beyond conventional paradigms to explore how accessing our innate consciousness can transform not just how we lead, but how we exist in relationship with ourselves, our teams, communities, and the living systems around us.
Perfect for leaders seeking to transcend traditional frameworks, whether you're navigating complexity in the boardroom, catalyzing transformation in your organization, or fostering change in your community.
Leading from Being
Episode 35: Landscapes - Animals Build Ecosystems with Simon Mustoe
What if 50% of wildlife species are actually recovering—and no one's talking about it? Wildlife ecologist Simon Mustoe challenges the catastrophe narratives dominating conservation, revealing a radically different picture of what's happening on Earth.
In this Landscapes episode, Simon explores how animals don't just inhabit ecosystems—they build them. From whales fertilizing ocean food webs to elephants shaping forests, wildlife carries the cultural knowledge and behaviors that create the stability we depend on. He introduces the concept of the "air gap"—the space between our minds and Earth—and why floating brains that can move through landscapes make animals the builders of living systems.
Hosts Marti Spiegelman and Todd Hoskins dive deep with Simon into questions that challenge conventional thinking: What if the greatest obstacle to conservation is constant human intervention? What if "doing less" could achieve more? How do we shift from control to participation in the ecosystems we're part of?
The conversation weaves together original human wisdom and modern ecology, examining how collective knowing surpasses individual scientific prediction, why humans need to remember they're animals too, and what it means to let wildlife lead the restoration of our world.
Marti's Potentialities segment explores the power of awe as an evolutionary force—and why our linear minds trap us from experiencing the very rapture that could change everything.
Topics include: rewilding consciousness, the paradox of action versus awareness, Tom Brown Jr.'s teaching on sensory capacities, the Yaqui understanding of perception as the core of being human, and why dreaming about wildlife might be the truest sign you're connected to life.
Guest: Simon Mustoe, wildlife ecologist and author of How to Survive the Next 100 Years: Lessons From Nature and Wildlife in the Balance