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This Protein Bar Could Kill You & Who Gets the Ticket When It's Waymo?
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Weird news!
Protein is the hottest nutrient right now. Some think there's no such thing as enough. But a protein bar designed to give you cancer? Barbara and Teja think that's a step too far.
Then there's the head scratcher. What happens when a Waymo gets a ticket? Guess the police need some guidance on that one.
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In San Francisco, police were perplexed when they pulled over a Waymo taxi.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_01Uh, after it made an illegal U-turn.
SPEAKER_00Oof, okay.
SPEAKER_01Only to find no driver behind the wheel and therefore no one to give a ticket to. So. Waymo is owned by Google, which is owned by Alphabet, which is all I think is very interesting because with a name like Alphabet, you'd think they would have covered all the bases, but they didn't.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Because here's this car that made an illegal U-turn.
SPEAKER_00An illegal U-turn.
SPEAKER_01How would you make an illegal U-turn? You first have to have GPS built in, obviously, right? Then you have to have these sensors, which could be cameras and radar, whatever they use to look around. So even if there wasn't a sign that said no U-turn.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's true. It should know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it should know. Here, do not make a U-turn.
SPEAKER_00It's a nefarious AI. It's begun.
SPEAKER_01So maybe they made changes to the street, but then, you know, uh everyone would be making a U-turn.
SPEAKER_00Well, no, because real people with real eyes looking to see the real no U-turn sign.
SPEAKER_01Well, so it didn't see the U-turn sign, or it didn't have in its bank of information the fact that at this location thou shalt not make a U-turn.
SPEAKER_00Well, remember when we were in Madison and we got on that highway, and next thing you know, the GPS is doing this. It's having us like drive. It wanted us to drive into a wall.
SPEAKER_01And we did not drive into a wall. We did not drive into a wall because we're smart people.
SPEAKER_00We're human beings.
SPEAKER_01Dumb like Waymo.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, yeah. So what did they do? How did this like play out?
SPEAKER_01Well, then the the what the police were saying is, well, they're gonna have to reprogram it. What?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. And? Like what you ticket someone? You have to ticket the company.
SPEAKER_01You gotta ticket Google or Alphabet.
SPEAKER_00You know what? Google's not gonna care. No, they're not gonna care about it. Google could get like hundreds of thousands of tickets and they're not gonna care. They're not gonna care. They'll just pay them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00They'll just pay them and just be like, okay.
SPEAKER_01But you you look at these cars. Now you d just take a look at this car.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01It's got something on top of it that looks like a top hat. And it looks like Abraham Lincoln's top hat, or whatever you call that. Right. It's like this circular, like an upside-down flan.
SPEAKER_00Okay. It looks like a looks like a three-layer cake. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Sitting on top of the car.
SPEAKER_00Then you've got these a black wedding cake. It's delivering a black wedding cake. That's a choice, yes.
SPEAKER_01So it's got two large cameras on the side on the front.
SPEAKER_00So it should have seen no U-turn sign.
SPEAKER_01Well, I think that's a fail. But you've got all this technology.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01And there's a sign right there that says no you turn. Oh, that's right. But they made that picture.
SPEAKER_00Come on, they set that picture up. That's probably AI.
SPEAKER_01First of all, it's facing the wrong direction. Maybe that's why. Um but obviously no U-turn.
SPEAKER_00Or the whole picture could be AI.
SPEAKER_01It could be. It has the license plate number there too. So now wait, don't think it's an actual photograph.
SPEAKER_00Don't they usually blur those out?
SPEAKER_01And actually, there's some elements back here that wouldn't be typically in a in an AI image.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it this actually looks like it's a I'll include that in the video. But so you've got all this technology.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01And it makes a U-turn.
SPEAKER_00Fail.
SPEAKER_01And yeah.
SPEAKER_00Fail. Mm-hmm. Okay.
SPEAKER_01So I think it's I think it's weird because so much money is spent on this. Yes. And there's so much di you know, people d uh decide to take a ride in one of these things.
unknownNot me.
SPEAKER_01If it if it made a turn that caused an accident, and they still couldn't give anyone a tip.
SPEAKER_00No, I mean they I I mean it was a passenger. Did they say whether a passenger was in there or um I don't remember.
SPEAKER_01But no no driver.
SPEAKER_00No driver, is all they say.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no driver. Uh and they said we're looking into the situation and are committed to improving road safety through our ongoing learnings and experience.
SPEAKER_00Who what? Who? Google.
SPEAKER_01She is uh Waymo's spokesperson, Julia. You know Julia Elena.
SPEAKER_00That's a tough job. Right. That is a tough job.
SPEAKER_01It's like being a weather reporter. A weather reporter has to say, well, um, we were wrong about the weather. Uh, you know, it's you know weather changes and uh that's the weather.
SPEAKER_00It's like being a PR person for like a hitman or something, you know, it's like, how do I spin this, you know? I don't know. Sort of like, well, let's see.
SPEAKER_01I think that if you're going to put the onus on the technology and not take responsibility for it, then when something serious happens, it's no longer funny or interesting.
SPEAKER_00No, no, I mean, but and but also like let's say you're driving and you go through one of those automated ticket systems, and the camera sees your car is speeding, right? They're gonna send the ticket to the registered owner of the car.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Right, so they're actually not gonna confirm who's driving, if someone's driving, anything like that. So that's why I say it goes to the registered owner of the car.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Hey, if the car is running on like um alcohol, like oh, and it's drinking and driving.
SPEAKER_00Right. Oh wow. Seriously, can AI get drunk?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00That'd be weird.
SPEAKER_01They can simulate drunk and driving.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, I've got to try that. No, but I don't want to mess up my chat GPT.
SPEAKER_01You're gonna oh you gotta if it's I thought you meant try drinking and driving.
SPEAKER_00No, no, but wouldn't that be funny to like have a conversation in your chat GPT? Somebody's done this already. We're gonna have to find it. Where like you tell it to behave as if it's drunk.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Right.
SPEAKER_00I don't I don't want to mess it up because I it remembers stuff between conversations now, so I don't know.
SPEAKER_01You can tell it to not remember it. Well, you know, if I please forget what I say.
SPEAKER_00If I make it blackout drunk, it definitely won't remember.
SPEAKER_01Please don't.
SPEAKER_00Right. No, I'm I'm sorry, I don't remember that episode.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sure. It might be running on grain alcohol, you know, or what's it called? Uh ethylene. Ethylene? Is ethylene? Ethyl?
SPEAKER_00Who's ethyl?
SPEAKER_01Ethyl alcohol. Ethyl.
SPEAKER_00Wow, she's got a quite.
SPEAKER_01What is it called?
SPEAKER_00I don't remember.
SPEAKER_01Alcohol that you uses.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, that's the what you drink. I don't know. I don't Okay.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, there's some kind of alcohol you can fuel certain cars with. Yeah. What are you doing?
SPEAKER_00Get my protein, man. What? No, okay. We could talk about alcohol. No, it's fine. It's fine. I'm gonna get protein.
SPEAKER_01What is it about protein? Go.
SPEAKER_00Well, it relates to my it relates to my weird news story.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah. All right.
SPEAKER_00Mmm. Mmm. It's a chocolate.
SPEAKER_01Oh, is it really? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If you put this into uh into coffee, it's so good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00If you put it into coffee instead of milk, oh this is so good. I don't know about that brand. Let me try that one. Let me try this one.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I've had this one before. It's got a it tastes a little weird.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's a coffee chocolate one.
SPEAKER_01Oh, is that what it's like? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that's what so it does taste a little like coffee.
SPEAKER_01Energy and immune, it says.
SPEAKER_00Ooh.
SPEAKER_01So immunity.
SPEAKER_00Alright, so while we're getting our protein.
SPEAKER_01I want full immunity.
SPEAKER_00See, because everybody's obsessed with protein.
SPEAKER_01Every episode of the TV show 24 where Jack Bauer says full immunity. Or well, someone says I want full immunity.
SPEAKER_00And protein.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Alright.
SPEAKER_00Alright.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00So protein is the it's the hot nutrient of this moment. It you could like it reminds me nowadays of that commercial, that fake commercial from Saturday night, Saturday Night Live many years ago.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00With uh it was called colon blow cereal.
SPEAKER_01Ah yeah, where they were sitting on a sitting on a huge pile.
SPEAKER_00One bowl of colon blow has as much fiber as 10,000 bowls of your regular cereal. Yeah. That's how people are with protein right now. So but they're not very well regulated as far as like what's in these protein bars.
SPEAKER_01Sure.
SPEAKER_00Right. So uh fitness guru, John, uh I almost said John Wick. Joe Wicks.
SPEAKER_01John Wick. John Wick. John Wick brand protein protein.
SPEAKER_00But it could be because Joe Wicks has created the killer protein bar.
SPEAKER_01Oh no no.
SPEAKER_00Which literally is he says it is the uh a deadly, it's the quote most dangerous health bar in the United Kingdom.
SPEAKER_01What is the purpose of that?
SPEAKER_00And he doesn't, so this says here, um, he doesn't shy away from the fact.
SPEAKER_01Wait, he is the owner of this company?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, fitness guru Joe Wiggs.
SPEAKER_01Joe Wiggs created a bar.
SPEAKER_00Killer, the killer protein bar that contains ingredients that can cause strokes, cancer, diarrhea, and death.
SPEAKER_01In that order? Because you wouldn't want diarrhea after you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So although, you know, um, when people do pass away, the bowels do really.
SPEAKER_01They do get released things.
SPEAKER_00That is my understanding.
SPEAKER_01You don't see a lot of that in crime shows.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_01No, you really don't.
SPEAKER_00Wow. No.
SPEAKER_01They walk they okay. But why would he create something like this? And why is it so dangerous?
SPEAKER_00Well, uh, you know what's funny? They didn't actually say an awful lot of.
SPEAKER_01And it's called killer?
SPEAKER_00It's called killer!
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_00Killer Deathly Protein Bar.
SPEAKER_01Is it popular?
SPEAKER_00Brimming with harmful ingredients. How much it is high in saturated fat and sugar while also being made up of 96 different components, which are linked to dementia, cancer, and early death.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so is this guy successful?
SPEAKER_00Well, he's an influencer, if you call that successful.
SPEAKER_01I have to search this up. What's it called again? Killer bar? Killer protein bar?
SPEAKER_00Killer protein bar, yeah. Yep. So, I mean, he is trying to prove the point. The point he's trying to prove is that there are no regulations about this stuff. And that people are making all kinds of claims about these various like health foods, and and like it's got a lot of stuff in it that's not necessarily good for you. Some protein drinks and bars don't even necessarily have as much protein as they say they do. That's true. It's not necessarily a type of protein that is absorbed by the body very well. It's got and and most of the protein bars are in the category of ultra-processed foods, which they're finding more and more just are not good for us. So that's what he's trying to prove.
SPEAKER_01Dave's Killer is owned by Flower Foods, a publicly traded company that acquired the brand in 2015 for $275 million.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no, that's gotta be different. That Dave's no, that's Dave's Killer brand. This is the Killer Deathly Protein Bar.
SPEAKER_01Killer Deathly Protein Bar. Well, it says here the UK fitness personality Joe Wicks. Alright, well, um you I think we should start a protein bar called microplastics.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's great.
SPEAKER_01Because there's so much of it.
SPEAKER_00Well, just infuse them naturally infused.
SPEAKER_01Naturally into micro microplastics.
SPEAKER_00Infused with a big container with not much in it.
SPEAKER_01You just have to put it in in into the microwave and then it'll like break up, break down. Yes. And it's you ingest. Oh. Microplastics.
SPEAKER_00But it's jellyfish protein coated on a matrix of microplastics. Oh, this is fantastic. Ground finely for you to stir into your water with your metabumes.
SPEAKER_01And then when you die, you just get recycled.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know?
SPEAKER_00It'll keep your skin smooth.
SPEAKER_01Yep. I'm a number five. How about you?
SPEAKER_00Who's a number three? I don't know. Oh, you're lucky. Yeah. I'm more recyclable than you. Damn. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So that's weird news for today. I'm not gonna buy that. Instead, I'm gonna keep drinking this protein. Well, drinking.
SPEAKER_01You don't know what's in this either.
SPEAKER_00Well, I mean, but this is a pretty good brand.
SPEAKER_01This one says energy and immune health support.
SPEAKER_00Okay. This one has low-fat milk and then alkalized cocoa, uh, natural flavors, cellulose gel, cellulose gum, salt, kerogene, and lactase, enzyme and oh, lactase enzyme, monk fruit juice concentrates.
SPEAKER_01Monk fruit.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Wow. Acosulf. It's very quiet fruit, by the way. Potassium sucralose and stevia leaf extract.
SPEAKER_01Nice. So that's the this is um, you know, has a picture of a cow.
SPEAKER_00Well, these people make milk too. Yes. And they they make the milk, they put the lactase in it so that for people who are lactose intolerant they can drink it.
SPEAKER_01I love it.
SPEAKER_00There you go. Yeah, there we go. Not a sponsor, by the way, just kind of like but you could be.
SPEAKER_01But killer, huh?
SPEAKER_00Your brand here. Killer.
SPEAKER_01Killer Deathly Protein Bar. And this guy makes a profit?
SPEAKER_00I have no idea. So I I have no idea, like, actually what's happening with it. Like, is anybody actually buying it? Is the question.
SPEAKER_01Well, let's see.
SPEAKER_00Let's see. Here we go. Uh oh, we don't have the rights to that music. Um is anyone actually buying the killer protein.
SPEAKER_01Uh marketing strategy. The bar was intentionally marketed as the UK's most dangerous health bar and came with dramatic tongue-in-cheek warnings about side effects like cancer stroke and early death. So it's it's tongue-in-cheek warnings. British humor.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but but he said that it's it's actually got those ingredients in it. So my question is, are people buying it? The bars were sold for a charity fundraiser.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_00The bars were sold with all revenue going to charities that promote healthy eating.
SPEAKER_01See? So it is tongue-in-cheek.
SPEAKER_00It's a symbolic product. The bar was a vehicle for a campaign.
SPEAKER_01I see. So there you go.
SPEAKER_00But it's its creation aimed to show that a product with legally permitted but potentially harmful ingredients could be sold with a health halo.
SPEAKER_01That's smart. It's very smart.
SPEAKER_00But that's what people do all the time. Companies do that all the time.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, so the opposite is the warning on cigarette containers that that hasn't deterred smokers from smoking.
SPEAKER_00No, exactly. And there's this guy, oh, I wish I could remember who it is. Joyce Jetson. No.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00It's a guy on Instagram. He's a marketer. Okay. He's a he's a brand professional.
SPEAKER_01I see.
SPEAKER_00And what he he did a whole series of videos where he's talking about, okay, how can I take this thing that's really unhealthy? Like, I don't know, Pop Tarts. Right? And how could I use brand strategies to sell this as a health food?
SPEAKER_01Interesting.
SPEAKER_00It's super interesting. If I find it, if it I'll have to try and find it and maybe like put it in the episode notes because he's it's all right.
SPEAKER_01Maybe that's the way they sell these Waymo cars.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01You know?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't actually do the job of uh, you know, heeding to laws and compliance and all that. But it just goes wherever it wants to go, and you know, we'll fix it in post. Yeah. Yeah. Fix it in post. Wait for the update.
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_01Until then it's gonna continue making illegal U-turns. You can certainly give us tickets, but but will they pay them? You have to catch up to the car first.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god. Are they programmed to pull over for police?
SPEAKER_01Oh I don't know. Are they?
SPEAKER_00I mean, they thought they must be. They must be.
SPEAKER_01Well, it says that the officers stopped the vehicle but declined to write a ticket as their citation books don't have a box for robot.
SPEAKER_00That wouldn't I think that wouldn't have been. How does it even pass inspection? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01How does it pass inspection?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Because it's a whole new criteria for inspection.
SPEAKER_00I don't know, but but you can bet that now across California, all the police are adding a little checkbox for a robot.
SPEAKER_01Well, our daughter was in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, and she wrote a Waymo to her job site.
SPEAKER_00I just think it's too soon.
SPEAKER_01And, you know, just sitting in the back of this thing, no driver, it's just taking you somewhere. Oh. And I'm thinking, I used to live in San Francisco. Those hills are steep. And if this thing decides, oh you know what? I don't need brakes today. I'm gonna make an illegal U-turn while I'm going 45.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I do hope that that automatic driving technology is perfected by the time I can't drive anymore.
SPEAKER_01But right now, I think we're not there too. Right now you just might as well eat one of those protein killer homes.
SPEAKER_00Get a killer protein bar.
SPEAKER_01Get into a hop into a Waymo. Have it to an illegal U-turn.
SPEAKER_00Off you go.