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Sofia Lee Davis: The True Story Behind “Hey Rita” | EMT to Country Radio Breakout

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Hello, everybody. Here we go. We are live. My name is Skip Clark. Skip happens. And we're live from the pod zone in the uh in our snow globe in the northeast. And uh thank you for being there, everybody. And uh tonight, man, this young lady right over here, you can see her right next to me. She's on the big screen, right? She's hailing from Monroe, Georgia, by way of Hampton Beach, New Hampshire. And tonight we're hanging with genre blending artist Sophia Lee Davis, as she brings raw storytelling, sticky melodies, and a brand new single called Hey Rita. And uh there she is. How are you? It's so good to see you.

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So good to meet you in person. Thanks for having me.

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Thanks for making the uh the trip through the uh the endless lake effect snow, as we would call it.

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You just taught me all about that. I didn't like it. I didn't.

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You had no idea.

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Nope. Lake effect.

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It's a lot of snow.

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It's a lot of snow.

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But it's a lot of light snow.

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I don't like it either way.

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No. But you're from what to New Hampshire, so I didn't like it then either. Okay. Then you went to Georgia for 12 years.

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Yeah. They we didn't we got ice. There was definitely times we had ice. There was a big ice storm of beer.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Stopped everything.

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Well, we've had the ice storms too, but uh when places like that, I would imagine Georgia or even Nashville recently, um the whole place is just a disaster. Everything shuts down. It gets it gets crazy. I got a lot of friends in Nashville and they just got their power back. Yeah, I was just gonna say, after 10, what, 12 days, they just got their power back. Yeah, that's crazy.

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It really just it yeah, destroys it for sure.

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So you've lived in Georgia, New Hampshire, and now you're in uh Connecticut, you said, right?

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I am, yeah. Going on one year now.

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Which place uh do you sound like and which place do you feel like?

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Ooh. You mean musically do I sound like? You know, you tell me whatever.

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I don't yeah, okay. All right, let's go with musically.

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I mean, I definitely think musically I'm past the Mason Dixon line for sure. But there is country up north. There's a lot of country up north, much more than you would think. I mean, just being up here and um exploring New York and Pennsylvania, there's a lot of people that like country music, but in terms of where I feel most at home is definitely Georgia and parts of Tennessee. So hope to get back there again.

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Really, you probably can't wait it. How long have Wait, you you're out. Tell everybody what you're doing. And the reason that you came through Syracuse where we are.

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We are on our first radio tour. I had my first release to radio called Hey Reader. So we really wanted to focus in on um New England because I think sometimes when you think of country music, you don't think of New England, but I'm smart enough

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to know that's the opposite of true.

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Absolutely.

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So I wanted to be up here.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And I wanted to be here with you in this in the pond zone.

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But you've been making your rounds. I know you've been in New York State. I I think you were in Hornell this morning um seeing my buddy Lee.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah, and you know, and then you had some things to do uh, you know, virtual with Nashville.

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Yeah.

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Um, but uh yeah. Do you remember the first time someone actually told you, Sophia, that uh this feels different about your music?

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Yes. The m the first time that somebody said something to me was when I was younger. But the the the one that sticks out most to me that's the most recent was I went to my first uh Nashville Songwriters Association in-person pitch. And so they take only a certain amount of songwriters in the room, and I had just recorded a new song at Blackbird. Okay, and I Blackbird, the Blackbird, it was huge, and so I just came off that high. I went into the room, there was maybe 40 people, they're sharing these amazing songs to this guy, and he's not taking any of them from the label. And uh it was supposed to be like Christian music, but I had recorded a country song, and I I stood up, it was my turn. They called my number and I said, Sir, I know this is not what you're looking for, but I have a country song. Do you want to hear it? And it the room got quiet because I guess that was kind of a no-no to do, but he's like, Sure, I'll hear it. He took my song, and I was the only one he took that night.

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So that was the first time we got something for that. A little bit of clapping here. That's good. You know what? Were you like scared to death to be in that room? You know what I mean? It had to be like very uh intimidating.

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It's intimidating, but you know what? I'm sure you feel the same way when your heart is led to do something and you have a passion for something. I don't let that get in my way. So if it's as scared as I feel and as nervous, because if you don't feel nervous about it, it means you don't care.

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I get nervous when I do this, I do this every week.

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Well, you're not showing it because you're doing a bang up job. No, you're doing amazing. But I just think it's worth pushing through all that if you love something that much.

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Absolutely. Well, that's why I do this, and this is why you do that.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, hey, um, and so Hampton Beach. Hampton Beach Energy versus Monroe, Georgia energy. Yeah. Who wins on a Friday night?

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Oh, Hampton Beach, hands down. Okay.

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Really? Yeah. Why? Why?

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That's a rowdy place. Have you not been?

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I have not been.

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There's two sides of Hampton Beach. It's interesting because it's like technically, I'm an original townie there, which is not it's not a thing anymore. Like everyone's kind of moved away. It's too damn expensive to live there. So we It's like everywhere though. That's true. This is especially because it's right on the coast, and you've got Rye, New Hampshire, which is these mansions that are you couldn't even ma imagine. And then you drive up to Maine, but it's all coastline. But Hampton Beach Hampton Beach is a little rowdy. Hampton Beach has a lot of country music, actually, and some bars. And yeah.

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So have you played those places?

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You know what? I have not.

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If you're from there, why not? I don't know. Or maybe maybe it's better you don't. Because you know what? Because you would know everybody. That's you know what I mean? Still I don't know, I'm not a musician, but I know when I if I got somebody in the pod zone here and I know them, like we just met tonight. So actually, it's pretty cool. But if I really know them, it's like, okay, I gotta make sure I don't mess up. I gotta make sure that this goes smooth. You know what I mean? You feel like, oh my god, if I if I screw up, this is not gonna be good.

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I feel that way about everywhere I go, but I will say I forgot I didn't tell you this, but I there's a karaoke bar. It's I'm not gonna name it, but everyone knows where it is.

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Do you?

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It yeah. It's but I used to practice there when I was younger because you know, when you're a younger artist, there's a lot of bars and stuff that won't let you in if you want to sing or or practice. Yeah.

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Because it's a bar and you're underage.

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Yeah, and you're underage. And so that was one of the few places that you have a fake ID? No. I follow the law. Oh my goodness.

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Uh-oh. This is going to go down the wrong road already.

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No.

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No, no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

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But uh so, what was your go-to karaoke?

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Oh, gunpowder and led by Miranda Lambert. Oh, look at you. 100%. That is that has always been my go-to.

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I could I could hear you doing that. I now that you mentioned that, I think you've got that. And you almost have that uh now. I don't like to compare artists to another artist, but I do hear a little of Miranda in your voice.

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She's a huge influence of mine. I mean, not that I can control what I sound like, but No, no, no.

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But you still do your own thing.

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You're she's an amazing songwriter.

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Sophia Lee Davis.

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I'm still Sophia Lee Davis.

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I love it. Like the name says back here.

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Yeah, right there.

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Yeah.

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That doesn't happen too often, you know.

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That's so sp thank you.

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Well, that's so special. Not since last week. Not since last week. But um, we're good. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, it doesn't. No, no. Uh if I were to mention Allison Krause, Nickel Creek, Grace Potter, Motown, um that that's a wild mix that you do.

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It is.

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And how does Motown fall into that?

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That was my first memories ever of like any CDs or anything I ever heard was Motown music because my mom used to clean the house to Motown music.

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With the four tops and oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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Temptations.

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Yes, and a lot of gospel.

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And a lot of gospel.

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Um, and then she has Elvis Presley's gospel album, usually playing non-stop, and now she has Spotify and Pandora, so that's helped her out a lot. But that's that's my earliest memories.

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So your mom actually she has her Spotify account and Pandora account and all that. She does. I'm impressed because we're talking a couple of generations.

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Generations.

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Yes, yes, exactly.

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No, I set it up for her, but well, good.

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But now she knows that she can go get a playlist.

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Yes.

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That's good. Yeah, you gotta love that. You gotta love that. Early 90s folk with country pop. What does that uh mean not mean to you?

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Say that one more time.

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I know. I said it really fast, and I'm sorry.

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No, you have an amazing announcer voice. My brain's just lagging a little bit.

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Well, no wonder you've been going all day. You're on, as we we mentioned a few minutes ago, this radio tour. And maybe what you don't realize if you're watching this is that the radio tour, more than more often than not, you're up before the sun comes up because you need to be in on a morning show because that's when they, you know, they want to expose the new artist and all that. And I totally get that.

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Right.

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But an artist like yourself, and correct me if I'm wrong, Sophia, is singing at 7 a.m. in the morning is a little bit different than singing at 10 o'clock at night.

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Absolutely. I don't think anyone wakes up in the morning, hits their feet on the ground, it's like, oh, I'm gonna sound sound.

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How did you do that? Did you uh have tea or do you with your voice?

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Water, lots of water.

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Lots of water.

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I've been doing a lot of cough drops, anything. I I saw it's actually funny, I saw Adina Menzel years ago when I was younger.

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Yeah.

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And she um she talked about remember those owl toys, they were sour? Yes, yes. So she was like anything, any singers out there, like anytime you have something sour, it helps produce saliva. So I used to back when they had those, I was eating. Sounds gross, but that's okay. No, they're very good. You don't like sour stuff.

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No, no, I do. I mean, what but you mentioned the word saliva.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Well, it lubricates your voice.

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I know you gotta have it. We're human, okay? I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

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I won't say it again.

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No, no, you

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can. You can. It's a podcast. Say anything you want. Just tell you what I think. But it's good. Well, oh, here we go. Maybe this is Sophia that we do not know. I don't know, but I'm loving what I'm hearing already, so this is pretty cool. Uh, I asked you a moment ago, early 90s folk with country pop. What does that not mean to you?

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What does that not mean to me?

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That's a heavy question. Yeah, and again, even got your boys down there thinking about this one.

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I'm I'm trying to formulate a somewhat intelligent response to you.

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Would you like to pass on that?

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I don't even know if it's I want to pass. I just don't know how to I don't know how to answer it. You've had me you had me speechless, which is a very rare thing. I want you to know that.

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Okay. Very rare.

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It's very wait a minute.

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Say that again. I didn't hear you, dude. Very rare. Do it again. I got you now. Very rare, you said.

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He said, yeah.

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So these are the guys that uh because on the radio tour, I mean, he he's with you all the time, and you've got a guitar player that came out of Nashville to travel with you. Uh they get to know you very good. And he just said very rare.

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Yeah, he he knows. He's been with me since I was a teenager. Really? Oh, yeah. This is my champion, my day one, PJ Donahue.

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PJ's awesome.

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Yeah, it just it it's so important. You know, if there's somebody in your life that supports you in whatever way, just thank them every day because sometimes you wake up and that's the only person in your corner, and PJ's never stopped believing in me. So I'm really lucky.

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But he has his opinions.

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He does, and he respects Yes, he's honest with me. That's what I mean. And that's what you need. That's a high.

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How important is that to an artist to have somebody that they can can uh confide in and say, you know what, what do you think about this? Be honest. Or he could tell, he could go, Sophia, that sucked.

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Yeah, it's a make or break thing.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and you you take it in a good way.

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Oh, 100%. I mean, I definitely get sassy with him sometimes, but um, I do appreciate what he's telling me because it's not coming from a place like you have to have at least one person on your team that's not trying to get anything from you.

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All right, I'm gonna pull something out of you.

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Oh no.

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When was the last time you got pissed at him?

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Oh, today.

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See, okay, so and what was that about? You don't have to go.

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I mean, maybe it's about parking.

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See? See? Yeah.

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I'm a little bit of the control freak.

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So who's driving?

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I've been doing the majority. They have offered. I want that to be clear.

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All right. But when I Are you one of those that you have to be doing the driving?

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I don't have to, but I like to. Does that make sense? Do you do all the driving?

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I I do.

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Okay.

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I do. See? We travel, we go on vacation every year to the outer banks. And it's like, I'm driving, baby. Yeah, go to sleep. But she won't go to sleep because she doesn't trust me.

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Is there a reason? Are you a bad driver?

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Slow down. You've been exceeding the speed limit for how many miles?

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Yeah.

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You know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Left lane, left lane battle. I'm with you on that.

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Get out of my hand.

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PJ doesn't like the left lane. He's a very polite driver.

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Are you do you have to stop like at um let's say you're doing this radio tour and you're you're on the uh New York State throughway and there's a rest area and you gotta stop?

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Well, he likes P stops. I don't like P stops. I want to get what going.

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That is so out of the ordinary.

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Why?

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Usually it's the woman that says, Honey, I gotta stop here, man. I gotta stop, I gotta go.

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No, it's not here.

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My wife does that. We travel and it's like, ooh, we just passed the ramp.

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I get kids on that. In my head, where it's like, oh, only two hours left. Only one hour and thirty minutes. I can hold it. I can hold it. So I just want to get there. Okay. And we gotta stop for peab.

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Okay.

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So um, I've heard that you've been described as uh never too polished.

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Who said that?

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It came up in my research.

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Oh my goodness.

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Uh but uh have you ever been told to overpolish a song and said no?

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Probably every song I've ever written.

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Do you feel you overdo it?

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No.

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Okay.

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No.

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Do you feel you underdo it?

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I think you should be authentic all the time. So if there's something that I want to say, I'm gonna say it. And that's why there's cuss words in Hey Rita.

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Oh, that's almost everything you hear nowadays.

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Yeah, so but you'd be so I mean it's country radio. I mean, there's still a a list of clientele that aren't really thrilled by that, but well, that's how I say it, so I'm gonna say it the way it's that's you, right?

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Right.

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That's Sophia Davis.

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To my mother's chagrin, yes, that is me.

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Why be somebody you're not?

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Exactly.

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So now I mean if you've got your own opinion, you put it to music, it is what it is.

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It is what it is.

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And we're gonna talk about hey Rita in just a minute. We're gonna play it too. Uh you know, I have to ask, we're talking about Hey Rita, but if your music were a drink, what's in it and what's the garnish?

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Oh my gosh.

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See, this is a podcast. It's a little different than doing morning radio.

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This is intense. I feel like you're asking me harder questions than most people. I feel like somebody paid you $20 to do this. Um, okay.

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It wasn't exactly that much, but go ahead.

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It was only a dollar.

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It was. I'll take all I can get.

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Oh my goodness.

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Well, I'm just kidding.

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I listen, I'm not a huge drinker, but I do like me and margarita. And the song is called Rita.

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Ah, there you go.

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So I'm gonna say a margarita. And it's gonna be none of that sweet stuff, though. It's like on the rocks, not frozen, good top shelf tequila, like a ton of lime, and then with the garnish.

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Shall I order one from upstairs?

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No, because I gotta drive.

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No, you don't. You got the two guys. You got PJ over there.

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No, he's not driving to Vermont. But um, no, the garnish would be a salt rim, no sugar.

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Wow, look at you.

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Yeah. That's it. Wow. That's your Hey Rita drink.

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Tell me about Hey Rita.

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Oh Lord, what you want on that? Yeah, it's been dropped.

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And uh it's getting added.

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It is getting added, which is pretty cool.

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Uh I'm gonna play that here in a moment, but I want you to uh uh tell us a little bit about the song, how did it come about, and uh the writing of it, and all that.

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Well, I gotta ask you, as a Syracuse native, do y'all have in the papers do you ever have like the arrest reports?

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I do.

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Okay, do you know what I'm talking about? And you can read like who, if your neighbors got arrested the night before, and it kind of has like a one line of what they did.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay, well.

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Mm-hmm. Okay, I was messing with the computer here a little bit too, but yeah, okay.

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Well, Monroe has one, it's called Bad and Busted. And uh true story. You can go look it up. What? Yep, and they have a Facebook page now too, but I'm talking like the OG Bad and Busted. It still has a paper print. It's right there next to your daily paper.

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And uh Does anybody even get the paper?

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Oh, yeah, they do in Monroe.

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Okay, all right, go ahead.

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They're still very active downtown. Um, everybody gets their paper there, but there's this little insert part called Bad and Busted, and it's got everybody's mug shots, and it's got like a little one-liner of what they got arrested for and uh whereabouts they live, so you can shame them if you want to.

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They actually have the mug shots.

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Oh, yeah, they got all the mugshots.

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Wow.

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Yeah, there's no rules about that in Georgia. Wow. Yeah.

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So uh I had no idea they still do that.

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Oh, they still do, and they do an online thing now too. So they they've gone global.

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Well, if you don't go digital, you're gonna lose. Yes. Um It's true. At least they did a little bit of that, right? Which is which is true. Right. So uh continue on about Hey Rita.

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So So that so the bad and busted uh I uh I was in a relationship with someone for quite some time that ended. Uh we had differences. I loved him and he loved um methamphetamines. So uh we parted ways, but uh I was always worried about the next person that was gonna come across him because he's a smooth talker, just like

Influences From Motown To Miranda

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I say in in the song.

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You cared, but you cared about not necessarily about him, but the next person that he might have a relationship.

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I did. I I was worried for them, and so when I opened my bat and busted, and I saw him next to somebody, and they had the same charges and the same arrest date, and she was quite a bit older than him, I got nervous, and so I wrote her a song.

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And it's Hey Rita.

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And it's Hey Rita.

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Does it sound like this? Let's see. Here we go. We're gonna play it.

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Hey Rita's in his way around the dance. Um, that's what it sounds like.

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And he got a good dose of it right there. Um I'd love to play the whole thing, but uh, you know what? Then uh Facebook and YouTube and all that, uh they'll go go, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, and blow it back, and they'll say, uh, they do. Then you'd be getting a note saying, Hey, this guy played your song. Did he have permission to do that? Or they get a hold of the copy, the writer, or they're whatever they do. But uh, but so you still might get something because I think there was enough of it on there that's enough of a clip. So that's what one way we can keep in touch.

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Yeah, that is one way. If I decide to hit yes or no for permission, yeah, yeah.

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But if you hit no, I'm gonna be really pissed off. I can tell you that much. So oh man. So um you got momentum, credibility, uh, but you keep it personal. Um, but uh can we go back a little bit? I don't start the fights.

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Oh, I don't start fights, yeah. That was a that was an early one.

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Yeah, that they went to number one though, right?

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Um Backyard Country in Georgia, which is where a lot of people get their start cold swindle.

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Where they post pictures of their mugshots.

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In Georgia, yeah.

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Yeah.

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In Georgia.

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Is that where it went number one?

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It was in Georgia, yeah.

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Yeah, okay. All right, all right, good, all right. And when did you realize that song had legs? Because I mean that to do that, that's quite an honor.

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It was quite an honor, and it's something that I still talk about because I still think it's very important. Uh so they do this voting, and you got a vote to keep the song on, and we got 42,000 votes. And I was like, dang, well, somebody relates to this.

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And uh yeah, it was so do you think that that is uh you write your songs? Yes. You guys all get together, maybe do your thing. Uh PJ and you.

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PJ actually has never written with me.

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Really? No, but he's known you since you know me alone.

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Yeah, well, I was always the same height. I grew five five and then just didn't do anything. Else after that. I think I'm taller than I am. I didn't tell you that. I think I'm a lot taller than I am.

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So you think did I hear that right? PJ, help me out here. You've known her for a long time. You can't see him right now. He's at the end of the table. He's got a microphone. He's got headphones on.

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So but um Oh gosh, you're gonna get gossip from PJ? Yeah, I want to hear some gossip.

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Yeah. Do we have some good gossip about Sophia?

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Awesome.

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Oh and then we'll uh we'll talk more about the music.

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But uh Yeah, I will say, um, you know, when I first met Sophia, she was, you were you were early 20s.

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Maybe.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So I was I was working, um, I was a drum instructor in a music store, and uh another one of the musicians in the store said, Oh, I have this artist, uh, you know, she's looking for a drummer we want to rehearse in the store. You would be would you be interested? I was like, sure. So I came down, and I swear, right then and there, I noticed something very special about her. And it was the whole package. It was she the songs, the amount of great tunes that she writes, um, but also her personality and her stage presence and um how she can hold herself um and kind of just go into a room and captivate it. Um, and that really stuck with me then, and it's still to now is uh I feel exactly the same. That's fine.

unknown

I'm good.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I know he's gonna make me cry.

SPEAKER_01

Has he ever been that uh sentimental before?

SPEAKER_02

He's a very caring individual. I don't I don't think I've heard it all strung out like that before.

SPEAKER_01

Well, we have it and it's live, so if you need the recording to throw back at him someday. I might have that.

SPEAKER_02

Next time you get mad at me, just gonna play the recording? Okay.

SPEAKER_01

There you go. Hey, uh tell me uh Sophia, tell me a little bit about those uh industry moments. Uh I know you had, you know, iHeart uh radio performances both in what, Atlanta and Boston. Uh that's pretty big.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so that was amazing. Um we did the State Theater in Albany, Georgia. That was fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

Is that backyard country?

SPEAKER_02

It's backyard country.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02

See? We know what's going on.

SPEAKER_01

I got notes.

SPEAKER_02

It's a big those help.

SPEAKER_01

It does.

SPEAKER_02

It's just a big deal down there, just because a lot of people get their start there. And um, I used to work on an ambulance in Atlanta and we used to listen to the show. You didn't know that? You didn't delve deep enough then.

SPEAKER_01

No, it didn't no, go ahead, finish because then I'll let you finish that. But uh we have something in common.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Well, go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

We already did though. Um we both love good music.

SPEAKER_01

We do, we do. You wouldn't be here if I didn't love you.

SPEAKER_02

It's true. So it's true, but I worked night shift, Atlanta, as an advanced EMT 911 for the city of Atlanta, and uh me and my partner used to listen to Backyard Country because it came on the weekend Saturday night. And uh there's another branch that also comes on Sunday night, but we would work weekends so we get more money. And I remember telling him, because I was still writing songs, I really hadn't pursued artistry very, very uh diligently at that time, but we were writing songs and I told him I turned to him and I said, I want to be on there. And he was like, Well, how are you gonna do that? And I was like, I don't know, I'm just gonna figure it out. And then about two years after that, I was on there.

SPEAKER_01

So Wow, yeah, see how cool. And and thank you for being a first responder. Um, but I was a firefighter for twenty. There you go. And um, I was a fire chief for three. No I was an advanced EMT. I twins. Did well, I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02

We're twins.

SPEAKER_01

We're twins. The same thing. But it's not, you know, I no longer do it. It's been a long, long, long time. Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's amazing. Thank you for your service.

SPEAKER_01

No, well, you know what? It's great to talk to people that have been there and done that. Because you see, you see all different things. You just makes you grow up fast, makes you realize how important life is, what you see and what you do.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And actually, it probably made you the woman that you are today.

SPEAKER_02

A hundred percent. I always say so the place I worked for was Grady, and I'm sure some of my I'm lifelong friends of the people that I worked there, and we always had this saying that you're Grady made. Like it's a bragging thing to say you're Grady Maid. It's it's to you brag. Grady. Grady made because it's Grady Hospital.

SPEAKER_04

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02

And um people know that if you were trained at Grady, that you were just this different level of of

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SPEAKER_02

caring and uh of training. And so proudly, whatever I do in my life, I always say I'm Grady Maid. So um I love that. Yeah, so I'm sure some of my old friends are watching because they've been supportive from the beginning.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure if they're not watching now, they will be. You'll be sending the link to them because everybody's gonna have to.

SPEAKER_02

No, I don't even have to. They always find me. I'm I'm really grateful to have them.

SPEAKER_01

So um tell me about uh CMA Fest. I mean, you you were down on Broadway. That's good. Dude, uh dude, I called you dude. Dude. But um, here's the deal. Broadway during CMA Fest.

SPEAKER_02

It's insane.

SPEAKER_01

Insane. It's not manipulated. Too old for that?

SPEAKER_02

I'm also too old for that, but it's a necessary evil.

SPEAKER_01

It's yeah. I guess if you've never been, yeah, you have to do it.

SPEAKER_02

You ha you have to. And it was such an amazing opportunity. Gravel Road asked me out there in 2024. So we got to play on the rooftop stage.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was amazing. So it's not Nissan or Riverside, but it was one of the stages on Broadway. Yeah. But the funniest thing was when we got there, I don't remember who told us if they were said, they said, Hey, make sure you write where you're staying at on your arm. I was like, why would I do that for? And they're like, Well, in case you try to drink or whatever, you're gonna be lost and they're gonna go dump you off there. And that that kind of set going here. Yeah, that kind of set the expectation for me. Yeah, I I did not write anything on my arm. I I wasn't worried about all that, but I did see some people that needed something.

SPEAKER_01

So what uh that being said, what's the wildest thing you saw off stage?

SPEAKER_02

I'm looking at PJ because he was there with me. What's the wild thing we saw?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know it had to be it had to be nuts. Um I guess no matter where you turn, you probably saw something that was pretty.

SPEAKER_02

It was just people that you know are probably librarians at home, just wilding out.

SPEAKER_01

Straight as can be at home.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. And then you see them like passing.

SPEAKER_01

They're out of town, nobody knows them, they can do what they want.

SPEAKER_02

Nationalists. Just let it all out, man.

SPEAKER_01

Let your hair down and whatever happens, happens.

SPEAKER_02

I I guess that's their motto.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's kind of scary too.

SPEAKER_02

It's a little scary.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. What's um you head out on the road and you're doing your thing. What's one thing you must have with you on the road?

SPEAKER_02

Um, snacks. I like to eat.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Umorite snacks.

SPEAKER_02

Favorite snacks. Lord have mercy.

SPEAKER_01

See, I just I started going down these roads.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's like I warned you. Well, I'll just tell you like it is, and I always need something chocolate. I love chocolate.

SPEAKER_01

Dark chocolate?

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's healthy.

SPEAKER_02

It's good for eating. It's good for you. It's healthy.

SPEAKER_01

It helps with the blood pressure.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. So that's why I eat it.

SPEAKER_01

And when you're an artist, I'm sure you have situations where high blood torture. Obviously. Not really, but maybe really.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, obviously. That's what happens. So that's why I eat dark chocolate and uh good. Some sort of trail mix, usually.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, trail mix. Pork chop biscuits. He's wait a minute, what?

SPEAKER_02

Listen.

SPEAKER_01

What's a pork chop biscuit?

SPEAKER_02

So he's referencing, he just wants me to tell the story, I guess. So when we Good man PJ thanks making my job easy. We drove to CMA Fest together. So we had the merch and all the equipment. The other parts of the band flew down. Okay. PJ's family flew down, so we were the ones in charge of getting everything down there. It was a long drive, like 17 hours. And we finally got there. You know, dawn's breaking, we're finally in Nashville, we're finally in the area, and we're starving. And the only thing that was open was the Hardy's. And PJ is from the north, and he's never experienced a harde's before. So I explained to him before we got into the drive-thru hey, like there's really no vegetables, like, there's

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SPEAKER_02

no bacon, egg, and cheese on a bagel. You're gonna have your choice of biscuits and your choice of filling, and it's gonna be a lot of stuff that you probably will never eat again, but just pick something. And so I had a pork chop biscuit, and I don't remember what he had.

SPEAKER_00

You have to sign a waiver before you order.

SPEAKER_02

Are you kidding me? It's not true.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I'm going well.

SPEAKER_02

It's a hardy's. It's southern.

SPEAKER_01

But it's called a pork chop biscuit.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I just had a it's just a biscuit with pork chop. It's just a pork chop. I got pork chopped sandwich.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

So I had a pork chop biscuit for breakfast, and he had something, and it started greasing and it was going all over his hands, and I was trying to drive out the drive-thru, and he's like, they didn't give us any napkins. And I was like, they don't care. Like, eat your biscuit. And and he said, Well, I'm getting grease on my fingers. I'm like, figure it out. You don't need a you don't need napkins. So that's why he wanted me to tell that. So you can hear how mean I am.

SPEAKER_01

I don't see that happening, though. Right. I don't see that happening. Uh, you know, lucky money. You go to Key West or something.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, that was an amazing opportunity. So shout out to Zach Green. He's amazing at what he does. He's also a killer saxophone player.

SPEAKER_01

Um was it magic?

SPEAKER_02

Chaos, for sure. It's definitely chaos, but also magic. I mean, you just walk down the street and you hear the most ethereal voices, and you're like, oh, that's somebody that I've listened to every day of my life, just sitting right there on the porch. That was cool. We played at this bar, I can't remember the name, but they had us on top of the bar on top of a pedestal. Yeah. So I was sitting.

SPEAKER_01

Were you on Deval Street?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I was on Deval Street, and I was sitting over everyone, but we had to climb up to the spot, me and the guitarist, on a ladder. And I'm deathly afraid of hikes. So I did not know that. So I was shaking like getting up, and some one of it was obviously a dad, somebody that could tell that I was really frightened, and he helped me up the ladder, but and I was like, thank God I wore shorts because we're just towering over everyone, and everyone's sitting in the bar up at us. So that was an interesting experience. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Was it uh Jimmy Buffett's place?

SPEAKER_02

No, it wasn't. It was next door. It was like it was really close.

SPEAKER_01

It had to be close. If it was on Deval Street, it's only uh it's right there at the corner, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So it's right, it's right next door.

SPEAKER_01

I've done the uh Deval Street crawl.

SPEAKER_02

How'd you make out with that?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Do you remember my name on my arm and my address? That sounds about right.

SPEAKER_02

No, I that's I mean, that's kind of the vibe that I got when I was there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was a long, long, long, long time ago. But uh you know, what's the worst gig lesson that actually helped you long turn?

SPEAKER_02

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01

You must there must be something along the road that really bring your own equipment.

SPEAKER_02

Because when they say there's a back line, that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. And that doesn't, it's not like a fault at the venue. Some people don't know what it is, what what you're asking for. They think, oh yeah, I have a guitar pick for you right here. And it's like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

We needed sound, we needed to, you know.

SPEAKER_02

And this and a good sound person is hard to come back.

SPEAKER_01

Did you send out like a floor plan or if you're gonna go do a gig uh for your guitar player and your drummer?

SPEAKER_02

Sometimes they don't. Sometimes they don't, and you just go there. They do, but you know, things happen and people get in and over their heads, and I really don't mind that.

SPEAKER_01

It's just just make sure you're you're yourself are you know, I I think about what you're saying there because doing what I do and we do a lot of shows, I'll get, yeah, we can bring so-and-so to town. Uh, all right, what do you need? Nah, you know, just uh just some speakers and uh you know, next thing you know, the guy shows up because you don't have monitors. Where's your uh I need a DI, I need, you know, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02

So they're not specific.

SPEAKER_01

That's why it's like I usually now I've learned my lesson, like you, that all right, no, no, no. So he's bringing a guitar,

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SPEAKER_01

somebody coming with him, is there gonna be a fiddle player? Is there gonna be so I need to I need to know this stuff?

SPEAKER_02

Do they have extra batteries?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Yeah, that too. That too. They usually do, though. Usually, and well, I don't know. I get a couple of musicians down at the end of the table here, but still, I don't do you carry uh extra batteries in your bag?

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

That's actually a precursor of what I got you.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02

I got you some no, it's good. You're gonna love it.

SPEAKER_01

You're really scaring me. I'm not what I'm scared about. Well, because this whole I got you something thing. Um, that's all right. Um so I I just I've got a whole mess of notes. So uh acoustic heartbreak song or full band Scream It Out anthem.

SPEAKER_02

Full band.

SPEAKER_01

Full band? Scream it out girl.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I like to scream it out.

SPEAKER_01

So tell me about uh you're on stage. Tell me about a show with these guys.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I haven't had the pleasure of playing with Nick yet for a full band show, but it's just the energy. PJ and I were with the full band because there's a bunch of other people in it right now. We just got back a couple months ago from St. Louis, and the energy is just unmatched. I mean, he mentioned that earlier. We go there and we connect, and everybody in the band is like that. They really they want to be there to make really good music, but also meet people and talk to people. And so I think if that, if anything's different about us, I think it's it's there, it's our energy and our ability to connect with people for sure. So that's a show with us.

SPEAKER_01

I'd love to see one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're going to.

SPEAKER_01

Um CRS is coming up. It's the country radio seminar. If you don't know what it is, uh it's a time in Nashville where just about anybody and everybody gets together with the labels, the promoters, uh, the indie artists, the signed artists to the major lab. Everybody gets together and we talk music. We talk how we're going to promote the music, and we get to go and watch people perform. Are you doing anything during CRS? Does grassroots have you out anywhere, or are you doing something on your own?

SPEAKER_02

Stay tuned.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. That comes with a gift afterwards.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Stay tuned. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

I'm excited about that. I've been to the grassroots events.

SPEAKER_02

You have? Yeah, I have. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Have you been going for a while or no? How long have you been with grassroots? This is my first year with your first radio tours.

SPEAKER_02

My very first one. So I'm really excited.

SPEAKER_01

You do love them and you're with the right people.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. I felt that from the moment I met them.

SPEAKER_01

So you write songs that feel real and imperfect. Am I right by saying that?

SPEAKER_02

I think that's a good read on it.

SPEAKER_01

What's the hardest truth you've put into a lyric? There's silence. You know, we have we have a noise for that too.

SPEAKER_02

The cricket. Yeah. She's just asking these questions, my lord. Okay, so the hardest truth I had to put in a song. I mean, any song you're exposing yourself, right? You're exposing your biggest weaknesses and your biggest fears sometimes. And I think maybe going with goodbye was one of those songs. Um even Hey Rita, in a way. It's a fun song.

SPEAKER_01

But do you feel how do you being a woman putting music writing music and obviously you want to put a lot of what who you are in your song?

SPEAKER_04

Sure.

SPEAKER_01

But do you ever feel like maybe it's a little too much? Because that's just the way the world is, the way people think, and people listen to lyrics, and they a lot so many people take it the wrong way.

SPEAKER_02

I just honestly, for that, then I feel those are not the people that I should be listening to my song.

SPEAKER_01

So you have a point.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01

And you're willing to accept that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm okay with that because I want the right people to listen to my music and I want to connect with the people that feel the same way about things and maybe gain friendship with people that never thought about it the way that I'm thinking about it. So I think it's better to just uh just keep it like it is.

SPEAKER_01

Do you write more for yourself or for the listener?

SPEAKER_02

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01

I write has anybody asked you questions like this? No. I mean, all that you're you're meeting with these, I mean, you were Lee this morning, you're with other radio

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SPEAKER_01

people, uh, morning shows.

SPEAKER_02

All excellent, but you're just asking these really intense, really thought-provoking things. Um, and it's late at night.

SPEAKER_01

And you gotta do the driving.

SPEAKER_02

It's late. I do all the driving.

SPEAKER_01

I get you.

SPEAKER_02

But no, I just I write in hopes that somebody maybe will understand what I'm saying. So I guess both would be the answer to that.

SPEAKER_01

You believe you're setting a making a statement?

SPEAKER_02

Making a statement and hoping that it resonates with somebody and maybe helps them in some sort of a way. And that's so awesome. They'll come back and we'll do it again.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? We're gonna hear some uh I know we're gonna hear from these guys here in a minute with you. Uh, but um before we do that, uh what's coming after Hey Rita? Or is it too early to even let the cat out of the bag?

SPEAKER_02

Not letting the cat out of the bag, but there is definitely a lot of things down the line. I'm going back to Nashville in about eight days.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Where do you go in Nashville? Do you have a place there?

SPEAKER_02

So right now I've been working with Zachary Manna, who um just did Hey Rita. He has an amazing studio, and I've been really happy with him before that was Blackbird. So that's where I go when I'm in Nashville.

SPEAKER_01

You know, it's just Blackbird's amazing. It's it it's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

It's just left me speechless walking in there for the first time.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of birds, have you been in the bluebird?

SPEAKER_02

I've not ever been in the bluebird. I know it's kind of a weird thank you. It's kind of a weird thing, but I've never this is gonna sound weird, but bear with me. I've never been to the Opry, I've never been to the Ryman, and I've never been to the Bluebird because I promised myself if I step in there for the first time, it's gonna be because I'm there to do something music related. So I've saved it.

SPEAKER_01

So I would assume that you will not be going to lunch with the rest of us to the ryman during CRS.

SPEAKER_02

Probably not, but maybe they just want me to serenade you during the lunch. You never know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, okay. So when when people discover Sophia Lee Davis for the first time, uh what do you hope they stick around for?

SPEAKER_02

I hope they stick around for somebody that gets them, uh somebody that's writing music for I don't want to say for everyone, because I don't think everybody relates to what to the things that I write about, but somewhere where you can just be yourself and yeah.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

You know, you're awesome. Oh, yeah. You make doing uh what I do so easy. Well thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you make it easy. I mean, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01

Apparently I haven't made it too easy. Damn hard questions, but other than that, I do a little bit of homework when I do this, but I like to make it my own.

SPEAKER_02

Homework is hard.

SPEAKER_01

Homework sucks.

SPEAKER_02

Homework sucks so bad.

SPEAKER_01

It sucks. But not knowing we have never met before until you rang my doorbell. It's true. You worked away through the snow to get here.

SPEAKER_02

I did, and you had massive eyes.

SPEAKER_01

I bet you sat in the driveway

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SPEAKER_01

going, I wonder if this is the place. I hope this is the place. The GPS brought us here.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, I I hoped it was the place. And then we're in a neighborhood.

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean we're in a neighborhood? There's there's houses here. You sure he's over here? Was that good? Was that being said?

SPEAKER_02

They were asking me that. Oh, really? Is this safe here? Well, I don't think the safety was an issue. It was just more like, are we interrupting somebody's dinner or something?

SPEAKER_01

He could be. I mean, I would have said, come on in, sit down. That's the type of people we are. So that's the way it works.

SPEAKER_02

I can definitely tell that's the same thing. That's what it works we are.

SPEAKER_01

But uh we've been chatting with Sophia Lee Davis. We're gonna hear some music here in just a minute when we come back. But uh let everybody know where they can go to get your music.

SPEAKER_02

I'm on every platform you listen to music. So Pandora, Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon. You just type in Sophia Lee Davis, Sophia with an F.

unknown

I know.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like I love that when I put it in the graphics.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just so impressed you spelt it right. It means you really care, so I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01

I do care. And what did I tell you? And for anybody else that's watching this, I know we I do have a lot of artists that watch this, uh, a lot of independent artists, that uh they know how I embrace those people that you have a passion and a dedication, and you know what you want, and you you're still young, you can still go get it. You're never too old. If you have a dream, go for it. 100%. And if you were to blow it off, you would regret that. So, you know, you have to give up a lot to get something, but you make it happen.

SPEAKER_04

It's true.

SPEAKER_01

And I tell you you got a couple of good guys with you here tonight, too. I know Nick just came on board, but uh it's Nick over there. He's a good guy. It's not on camera, neither is PJ at this point, but still to have those guys with you and helping you out. I mean, that's that's pretty awesome.

SPEAKER_02

And they are pretty awesome. It's all about that.

SPEAKER_01

All right, Sophia Lee Davis, as I spelled the name. I hate the cameras because I never know where I'm pointing, but uh there it is. We're gonna come back in just a moment, so stay right there. Uh, we'll come back with another live stream and we're gonna hear some music. Uh, what are we gonna hear?

SPEAKER_02

What do you want to hear?

SPEAKER_01

What do you want to play?

SPEAKER_02

Well, you played oh hey Rita, you I'm playing.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but you got there's I don't I don't care you can do that too when we come back.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

All right. All right. Oh, somebody just said that's what makes skip happens great.

SPEAKER_02

I agree. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta love that. All right, we're gonna be right back. Hang on. All right, and uh you're gonna hear some great music. Stand by.