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Skip Happens Podcast - Every Boot Has a Story!
Rebekah Snyder on Finding Her Voice Again, Motherhood & Telling Her Story Through Music
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Welcome And Meet Rebecca Snyder
SPEAKER_00You know what? We're live. Hi everybody. My name is Skip Clark. Welcome to another edition of what we call Skip Happens. Yeah, Skip Happens. It's been a busy, busy week. Skip Happens Pod Zone. Uh tonight, no exception. I've got a uh an artist in the studio, Rebecca Snyder. And uh welcome, first of all, welcome to Syracuse and welcome to the Pod Zone.
SPEAKER_02Thank you for having me both places.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I scoot up a little bit better.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I've never been to Syracuse before. I was thinking that as I was driving in.
SPEAKER_00Really? So uh did you come on what is it, Route 81? Did you come Route 81 and then uh I think I did.
SPEAKER_02You know, I was singing the whole way, so I was just like following the navigating artists.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Were you let me ask, were you singing your songs?
SPEAKER_02I jumped back and forth between mine and and then whenever I want to listen to maybe a little Morgan Wallen to I listened to a little Morgan Wallen today.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what else? What else? I'm just curious.
SPEAKER_02I listened to, I mean, I'm a big Ella Langley fan right now. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Who isn't?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So she was in Nashville with us. You know about the meetings last week because apparently you were there four days well, but uh Ella was there.
SPEAKER_02Yes, so I heard and saw pictures, but I left before um you should not have left, Rebecca.
SPEAKER_00That's all I'm just saying. But I know we're all busy. You're actually recording too while you're in Nashville. I saw how how cool is that? We're gonna talk about that here in a moment or two. But uh for people just getting introduced to you, Rebecca Snyder, how do you describe who you are as an artist right now?
Defining Herself As A Songwriter
SPEAKER_02Hmm. Uh I mean, I think I'm a songwriter. I feel like that's like my strength. So you're more of a doing I mean, I'm I'm an artist, but uh I mean I've I've written a record of songs, and I I think they tell my story.
SPEAKER_00Okay, you have a story.
SPEAKER_02Well, everyone has a story because you're a mom. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that's part of your story. Uh part of your story is you know, your past, which makes you a better person. Thank you very much. Uh absolutely, but it's all part of your story. And uh has uh music always been uh your way of making sense of things, whether you're writing or performing?
SPEAKER_02Uh I think so. Um I will say though, I went through a period where I wasn't doing any music, which was like a relationship, a detour, I like to call it. But before that, right, yes. I mean, I grew up, my mom played guitar. So I taught myself to play on her guitar growing up.
SPEAKER_00Was she in a band at all or anything like that? Did your mom perform? Are you following her footsteps?
SPEAKER_02No, she's more like a play at home.
SPEAKER_00Just like I'm gonna have a little bit of fun. I feel like playing the guitar.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, right. But you took it a step further.
SPEAKER_02I did, yes.
SPEAKER_00Which is pretty cool. And uh, when did you first realize that music wasn't just something you loved? It was something you needed. Because apparently, I mean, you you got away from it and you went back to it.
SPEAKER_02Right. I I think um, you know, music is a tough business to make it in. Right.
SPEAKER_00It is.
SPEAKER_02And um, so it's hard to commit to it. So I would keep taking sidetracks. Like I'd go to college and be like, okay, I need to work corporate, and then I'd go like join my all-girl rock band. And then that would go for a while, we'd like break up and I'd be like, okay, I need to go to graduate school. And then I'd like just keep going.
SPEAKER_00You were in an all-girl rock band?
SPEAKER_02I was in an all-girl rock band. Like actually a couple.
SPEAKER_00Really? I think that is the coolest. Because anytime, even nowadays, I if I see an all-girl band, and there's a woman on drugs, there's a woman on bass, there's a woman on lead guitar, there's a lead vocalist, and they're all ladies, it's like, wow, this is so cool. I just love that because maybe it's something you don't see every day, but uh yeah, maybe we need more of that.
SPEAKER_02I'm I mean, I'm still really good friends with the girls that I played with, and we were friends first, and then what was the name of the band? Um, well, I actually called it so well. If I get to play my latest release, okay, you will hear me discuss a pair of jeans that I had three kids ago and two husbands ago. Oh so my last name, I've been through a couple, back to my maiden name, and I'm not changing it ever again. Well, the name was Starr. So I like I married a guy who I grew up with, okay named Mike Starr.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Okay, still good friends with him.
SPEAKER_00You could have been Rebecca Starr. Well, I was Rebecca Starr for a while. You were for a little bit, yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And we we am a complete spit splits. Okay, so that was cool. So I actually went through this period where I was like, okay, um, I'm gonna just call the band Rebecca Starr band because you know, bands break up and get back together. So I thought, well, I'm gonna I I had one called The Skinny, okay, and then that breaks up. So then I thought, well, I'll name the band just my name, and that way I will never have to worry about the band breaking up. But then something else happened. The relationship broke up, and I have a new last name there. So but I'm back to my maiden, and this is it. I'm sticking with it.
SPEAKER_00Stick with it. It's your story, stick to it. Yeah, it's your name, stick to it. But um, so you've lived a few musical lives already. So from the folk roots to the all-female rights, I had this in my notes too. Uh, the all-female rock bands, and now you're in this country chapter. Have you always loved country? Because if you did rock, but rock has its roots, right? Country or country has its roots in rock.
SPEAKER_02I mean, there's there's so much crossover, right? I feel like um you throw in the petal steel, you throw in some like banjos and a fiddle, and folk is transformed into country. A little bit. Well, so I mean, I grew up learning to play folk. Like my mom had like Linda, but Linda Ronstadt. Linda Ronstadt. Like, I mean, she's got like a lot of country crossover. Um Jim Croce records, John Denver records, you know, those are the first songs that I learned how to play. Uh and then uh, and my mom had an acoustic, so I learned on acoustic. I think a lot of most people do, right? But then there's this period of time that happened where like acoustic guitars weren't cool and you had to like learn to play electricity.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's gotta be louder.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So um now those times have passed.
SPEAKER_00You're back to the acoustic.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and um yeah, it's perfect, really. I feel like I've been training my whole life for this.
SPEAKER_00That's so cool. Did you learn just from watching your mom or your mom helped you, or did you go have a did you take lessons? I guess is what I'm asking.
SPEAKER_02No, I I didn't know.
SPEAKER_00Self-taught the whole thing, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And she tried to teach me, and that didn't go so well. But I a lot, I think a lot of people learn to play guitar. It's like you want to accompany yourself. You love music, you love singing, and you want to go be able to like play in front of people, or like you know, share your music. You want to accompany. So it's that like desire to accompany yourself that like then you're like, okay, I gotta learn this chord, and I gotta learn this chord. I really want to learn that song, I gotta learn, you know, these other skills to play it.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_00So you you're a mom. You have how many?
SPEAKER_02I have three.
SPEAKER_00You have three boys, girls.
SPEAKER_02I have a daughter and two sons. I have third grade, sixth grade, and seventh grade.
SPEAKER_00Oh boy.
SPEAKER_02So things are getting a lot easier.
SPEAKER_00Oh, are they really well? Probably because now you're you're able to go out and maybe chase your dream a little bit more instead of always having to worry about the kids, picking them up from school or getting them to the sitter or daycare or whatever the case may be. But now, because they're in school all a little bit, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I'm still always worried about the kids.
SPEAKER_00But well, you're a mom. That's part of what you do as a mom.
SPEAKER_02I think that never ends, does it?
SPEAKER_00My mom was here, she'd still be worried about me. And look at you know what I'm saying? So it's it's the way it is, and everybody worries about me. Um, but uh in a good way. So
From Folk To Rock To Country
SPEAKER_00um, you know, there was this long stretch where your voice and really your sense of self, uh you just touched on it a little bit, uh you got pushed aside. And when you look back on that period now, um what feels hardest to put into words?
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, well, uh so well, I was with the kid's dad. And um, you know, we all have had friends who are in relationships where there's a controlling partner, and that person who wants to express themselves can't and doesn't, and like you refrain from doing so because you're trying to keep the peace, right? So I was in that period for a long time, and then that relationship ended. And um still though, even in the aftermath, there's a lot of stress and trauma and all of that that goes along with it, right? Uh and so I I I I moved my children back to my hometown. I grew up in a small town.
SPEAKER_00Where?
SPEAKER_02In uh western Pennsylvania. It's called Kateanning. And that is near it's outside of Pittsburgh, about an hour. All right.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, close enough to go to see the uh the ball game. Yes, but far enough.
SPEAKER_02All my new my kids play softball and baseball, and we go down and see the excellent.
SPEAKER_00Excellent. Yes, love it. Steelers. Yep, pirates. Yep, pirates baseball season.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, oh, it just started. Believe me.
SPEAKER_00No, I know. Uh we're today, the day that you know we're on live right now, but if you watch this uh down the road or re-watch it, uh today is the uh the opening of baseball season.
SPEAKER_02I heard that this morning.
SPEAKER_00The counties are playing uh the Giants, it's it's all going down. It's all going down.
SPEAKER_02Another radio programmer told me that today. Yeah, I bet also loves baseball.
SPEAKER_00We don't yet, that's it. We love baseball. There's something about baseball.
SPEAKER_02Like it's the first day at baseball. It's a great day.
SPEAKER_00Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Well, I was stressing because my mom had to get my daughter to her softball game and I was away, and I just like to make sure her uniform's right and her hair's braided, and I had to be like all of it.
SPEAKER_00Can't say that enough. You're a mom. And it sounds like you're a pretty darn good mom. So that that's pretty cool. Was there a um, Rebecca? Was there a moment, specific moment where something you said, I want my voice back to get you back into it? Was there something that, or was it just, you know, it was time because the kids were older or what?
SPEAKER_02Well, I have a song that's called America and it's out on streaming, and it's it's so that song is me and the acoustic only, right? And it's patriotic, and I actually had written it a long time ago, but um like a year and a half ago, it just seemed like it was actually a political year, and everybody's all charged up on politics. Like I'm indifferent, but it's it's it's about unity and unifying and everything. And so, but it was a song I always loved playing. So I started playing out again, just going to open mics and things locally. Okay. Finally, like, you know, yeah, I hadn't played in a while, so um, just getting back into it. And then I have a friend in Los Angeles who makes music videos, and I said, Hey Marcus, you know, I'd like to make a music video just to get back in. So he made a music video, really uh so that song's about my grandfather. He was a World War II veteran. So like we so cool, yeah. And it it sort of tells the story of like like how he sort of gave me my love of country and um and you know, pick uh picture's worth a thousand words. So uh the music video kind of brings the song to life. And I put it out on social media, and then uh I got an email from someone named Dean Miller.
SPEAKER_00Dean!
SPEAKER_02Yes, and he is like, you know, I really like your song, and I could produce you if you'd like to, you know, do some more songs. And I was like, Well, I really don't have any songs right now because I still was just getting into it and I didn't really I felt like I had writer's block for 10 years, so I didn't feel confident about like writing again yet. And then I'm playing and playing. My friend's like, you have to write some songs, you cannot keep playing that same song. So last spring I'm like, okay, I'm gonna sit down and I'm gonna do it. And sat down. I wrote the song These Jeans, which I think I might play. Okay, which I just put out on D DSPs. That was the first one. And then I got like halfway through another one, and uh, I thought, well, maybe I'll go down to Pittsburgh and I'll just play them acoustic like I did America. America is very raw, but I think it's a magical song if you get a chance to listen to it.
SPEAKER_00It definitely will.
SPEAKER_02Um, and uh, so I thought, well, I could just do that again, but then I remembered this Dean Miller who had emailed me and I said, Dean, you know, I have some songs. I think I could come down. But I I didn't really quite know who he was. Like he's Roger Miller's son, like you know, so he's he's got stories.
SPEAKER_00I've had him on the Skip Athens podcast. Exactly. He's been there, done that, and he's somebody that could actually teach you something. Absolutely. Or, you know, you can take in certain things that he says or does. And here's a man, he's seen it all, his dad being Roger Miller. Dang me. But uh yeah, you know what I mean. Yes so yeah. Wow. Um, it's so cool.
SPEAKER_02So cool, yeah. And I love Roger Miller too. He's a very clever songwriter. So, anyways, um, no, so so then I emailed Dean, and Dean's like said that he could produce some songs, and then I had two, and then I started writing another one, and I started writing another one. I'm like, I think I have four now. So he's like, Oh, we're gonna have to push it out if it's four songs. We gotta wait, you know, three or four weeks. So I waited till the kids were out of school.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02And my mom watched them. She doesn't love watching the kids, but she loves music. So she watched the kids, and I went down and recorded the first four. Uh, I went into the music studio, and Dean's like, oh, these musicians are they're like once these awards and all this. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, everybody said does that. But I walked in and it was like Evan Hutchings, who's on the drums. Um just a lot of these musicians who have played on the, you know, Cole Swindles, Sam Hunt, all the all the studio musicians.
SPEAKER_00But they play on what I think what uh a lot of viewers or listeners don't realize that these are the musicians. They do this, this is their job. And when you play an album, whatever, there chances are
Losing Music In A Controlling Relationship
SPEAKER_00that's them in the background. Not everybody takes their own band into the studio, it's you know studio musicians, and Dean knows all of them. I'm sure he does.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, even this past week, so and it's an extraordinary experience. I'm not exaggerating. When I told my mom, I was like, like, this is as extraordinary as childbirth. It it that which is to watch these guys take a song that I've written, you know, while the kids I put them to bed, I'm down there playing the chords. I and I figured out like if I get the structure and the melody uh down, then I I send it down, I send it to Dean, then they chart it in this, these like runes or hieroglyphics or something that only Nashville studio musicians understand. And then um set it down in front of them. And it's amazing. Yes, a miracle happens.
SPEAKER_00It it it yeah, you give birth to a brand new song.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I guess so.
SPEAKER_00I mean, that's it's kind of a weird way to put it, but it's so true.
SPEAKER_02I I just that was the only thing I could compare it to.
SPEAKER_00No, no, and rightfully so. Nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong with that at all, because that's exactly what happens. You get you give birth to a brand new song.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and and you just feel like when you hear it come to life, it's amazing. And I remember like, you know, I'll walk past them, like Evan Hutchings, and like just looked at each other like, wow, that was amazing. Like that turned out great, and you know it. So I was there on um at CRS, but I was really only just going for the CDX party and then to see a few people. I knew I couldn't stay long, but I thought if I'm gonna go down and have somebody babysit the kids, then I'm gonna I made myself write two more songs. I thought I'll do you know, a couple of times.
SPEAKER_00You did it that quick.
SPEAKER_02I I locked myself up.
SPEAKER_00Well, sometimes the best songs are written in 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_02They can be. Uh right.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I've talked to so many different artists, and I say, okay, uh, so the song, how long did it take you to write that? I mean, they went on to be a smash, and they're like, oh, maybe 20, 25 minutes. I'm like, come on, dude, that that is not happening, but apparently it does.
SPEAKER_02No, I think it does, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um it's come from lots of places, right? You've got all those punk rockers that drugs and get like you got all this stuff going on and and all that.
SPEAKER_00It all comes together.
SPEAKER_02Sometimes, but I think when you get to the hook part, like you're like, you know that, and that can happen fast. Like I was struggling, struggling, struggling. I I went to a swim meet. I took all the kids made districts, so I took them to a swim meet and I brought my guitar. So in between, so and then so I was working, working, working on a song, and it still just wasn't quite right. And then I went home and I I worked on it some more, and then I took them down to the batting cages, came home, and then it was like I I played the songs, the a different chord progression, and then I was and I met played with the melody a little, and I was like, that's it. I'll play it for you. I'll play it, I'll play it. So that's two weeks ago. I'm like, that is the chorus right there. That's the melody.
SPEAKER_00You know it when you hear it.
SPEAKER_02I think so. You know what I mean? It's like, that's it, that's it.
SPEAKER_00I know this is it, this is it. I have it. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_02So I so I even maybe. That's an act. I mean, they have a talent for that, is and then I I pieced in like all of the um, I was struggling with the verses, but so at the so I I had two songs to write. So I just like made myself sit and write them, and I wouldn't talk to anybody, and I was sort of in a bad mood because uh every time I write a song, I don't know if I'll ever write another one. That's how it feels. Like I call it songwriter purgatory. Like you don't know if you're going to get out. But I'll I'll play you what I came up with, and you can see it tell me if you think I got out or not. I think I did.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah, we'll do that in a little bit. But uh, you know, I want to talk a little bit about um because a lot of your music apparently touches on love, family, motherhood, being the mom of three beautiful children, and survival. Uh, has becoming a mom changed the way you write in the truce that you're willing to tell?
SPEAKER_02Uh I think, yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_00You're more open now.
SPEAKER_02You have you find strength that you didn't know you had, right? Once you become a parent. I I'm sure probably everyone agrees with that. You know, you have to just dig deep and get through things you never thought you could get through. And so it gives you a confidence that you maybe didn't have before you had kids. Like I think now, I mean, I'm able to do this this year. Um I I don't I used to love being in bands because I I didn't have like maybe the confidence just to go out alone. I want to go out with my friends or you know, have the support. And now it's just like I'm doing it and I can do it because I do it. Got up in the middle of the night, the kids throwing up and took all three of them to the ER and you know, all those things that you just have to push through, uh, they do give you like a different type of like confidence in yourself. I think so. And for sure, um, the kids like play or they they factor into the songs. Uh I also took them even to the recording studio with me.
SPEAKER_00I think that's cool. And I was talking to another artist at CRS, and he was there with his wife and his kids, and they said, Yeah, they were in the studio with me this morning. And I just think that's cool that they can experience what you're going through, or they can see how hard you're working, or they can maybe hear somewhat the end result, you know, of all that, and they can go, Wow, that's my mom. Wow, that's my dad. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02Maybe they'll go wow sometimes. Right now, they would kind of like maybe they're like, Yeah, okay, mom. They hear the songs hundreds of times before they get recorded, and they're like, Okay, mom, we're over this song.
SPEAKER_00Did they ever tell you, like, mom? Don't do that.
SPEAKER_02Uh I actually try stuff out on my 13-year-old daughter. Like, she said that one song was boring, and then she's like, Oh, I like the chorus now.
SPEAKER_00So, yeah, okay. Why would she say it was boring?
SPEAKER_02It was. She was being honest. Okay, all right.
SPEAKER_00No, no, I was just curious. Because at 13, teenager, young lady, um, they're usually
America Sparks A Return To Stages
SPEAKER_00right on top of the music at that age. They're like getting into it, you know what I mean? So if she said it was boring, I guess it would be boring. It's like, no, mom, you need to do something.
SPEAKER_02So it's not catchy yet. But um Wow.
SPEAKER_00Okay. And tell me though, um, your video for America, uh, that's your daughter playing you as a young lady.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00And holding a photo of your World War II veteran, your grandpa, your grandfather, she mentioned a few minutes ago. What was the moment like for you as a as a mom and as an artist when you did that?
SPEAKER_02Uh brought tears to my eyes. I'm at that age where I'm very nostalgic. I even like sometimes played the songs for the first time, and like, you know, it brings tears to my eyes until you get like, you know, back used to them. But, you know, uh, actually, like we said, like music is tough business. Um, I feel like you have to do it for reasons other than musical success. And when I was thinking about making the music video, I I thought, okay, so I'm making the video and I was investing some money. It's like my friend, he had made music videos for me back in the day, and we would do it all on a everybody volunteer, shoestring budget, but you know, I had to like pay for some things. So and I thought, okay, here I'm spending this money on this, but I'm gonna have this forever with my daughter.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02So some I think like what I've been doing over the last year, if not it's worth it just to get to share these experiences with the kids and um let them sort of see me be me, I guess.
SPEAKER_00I guess. America. That was when you came back. That was the signal of your return, right?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
unknownOh, cool.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I started back with that song.
SPEAKER_00Deep too.
SPEAKER_02And yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, wow, yeah. Deeply personal.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You know, it's I mean, it just amazes me. What a, you know, to have the passion, the dedication. You're so strong. You got the kids at home, you know, and you're out playing playing your music for the radio people now. Have you heard your song on the radio?
SPEAKER_02Well, every time I'm in a station and they play it, I've heard it. Let's see. Have I heard of a radio?
SPEAKER_00Have you been like pulled out of, let me put as an example, have you pulled out of the parking lot of a radio station and they say, Yeah, you just, you know, we had her in the studio. Rebecca Snyder was here. And you know what? This I'm gonna play her single. And Rebecca, here you go. Turn it up loud.
SPEAKER_02You know, I don't know because usually when I'm leaving, they have just played it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know. Most of them do, but I also, you know, yeah, okay. So how do you feel? You're like, holy crap, my song's being played on the radio.
SPEAKER_02Excited.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's just fun to share what's I I think songwriting, I mean, I think like you're having a conversation with everybody. Yeah you know, like you're these are like your thoughts and reflections, and people like that every time you hear a song from an artist that you love and you know they wrote it and it's personal to them, you feel like you had a conversation with them. You're like, yeah, I agree, I don't agree. Or that reminds me of something I did. Um, the power of music.
SPEAKER_00It's strong. We all know it's strong. It's like our, you know, it's our it's our life put put to music. It's our words put to music that represent what we do in life every day. It's amazing. It's amazing. And a songwriter is very special. You're right. You mentioned in the beginning we were talking about, you know, being an artist, being a songwriter, and you kind of lean toward the songwriter side of things, which I totally get it, because what people don't realize is how important and how much it means for a songwriter. You know, yeah, it may not be their voice. Let's just say you do write a song and somebody else picks it up, but that's it's if it wasn't for the songwriter, right? You wouldn't have a song. Let's just, you know, but you're doing all your own. Do you um put your tracks down in the house? Uh did you say you go downstairs and you have a place where you go and you play the guitar and put the tracks into a computer, then you upload them?
SPEAKER_02I um usually use my son's iPad.
SPEAKER_00Okay. No, no, no, it's amazing what you can do nowadays.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, well, I mean, I need I what I do is I mean, I write the song and I have a demo. In the beginning, I was going down to a studio in Pittsburgh where a couple times I had to do vocal work as well. It's called Mr. Smalls. They have like a performance. Anybody that's been to Pittsburgh has probably like seen a show there or something. But um, and I I was like really working hard on my demos and developing the songs, like for the first four songs, like when I first went down to Nashville. Then I walked in and I saw how it worked. And I realized these musicians don't need a perfect demo. What they need is like a finished song. So now I'm just like writing, writing, writing, writing, and working on like making sure that I have a song that I think when it's done is gonna be good and not worrying about like if I hit a bad chord or something, you know?
SPEAKER_00Right, right, right.
Dean Miller And The Nashville Studio Leap
SPEAKER_02Um, but yeah, so I was there Tuesday and I thought, boy, I would love to bring someone else in with me. I even talked to my radio promotion people, and I was like, I should get a programmer in here because somebody besides me has to see this magic happen. So skip next time. CRS.
SPEAKER_00I'm a phone call away.
SPEAKER_02You got to come in.
SPEAKER_00I would I would definitely do that. I've been doing uh with she talks about CRS, it's a country radio seminar and those uh the meetings we just had recently. And I'm just you know, four or five days afterwards still recuperating a little bit because I mean, I don't know. Well, you were only there one day, but there's a lot of artists like yourself. A lot of the newer artists, they go from the crack of dawn till gosh knows how late at night, uh, just because they want to meet everybody, they network, you know, you hang out at the at the bar. I mean, you want to get to know people. It just gets to be a very long day.
SPEAKER_02Yes. And apparently there's lots of open bars.
SPEAKER_00Oh, there, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was at one open bar.
SPEAKER_00You know, I mean, you have your people, grassroots, and they throw their event. You went to the CDX party, which is um CDX kind of has a lot of the newer artists, a lot of the, you know, and they promote those to radio and provide the music to radio. Uh, but then you get all the major record labels who just like to, you know, hey, the bar's on us.
SPEAKER_02Yes. So um that's a lot of work for all of you who are being wined and dined to make sure that yeah, but you know what?
SPEAKER_00You can only do so much of that.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00You know, I just I don't know. It's just you get tired and you know, like flying back. I mean, I was falling asleep on the plane. It's just like, you know, I was doing one of those, you know, when your head drops.
SPEAKER_02Once a year is enough.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's once a year is enough. Yeah. I used to, um, I don't know. Have you been to the CMAs, the ACMs? Do you go to Fan Fest or the CMA fest rather?
SPEAKER_02I'm going this year. I'm gonna play at the CDX uh showcase.
SPEAKER_00Yay, good. I love that. I love that. I don't know, I might see you. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Uh let me ask you, Rebecca, when your children look back one day at your music and your story, uh, what do you hope they understand about you?
SPEAKER_02That's funny that you ask that because I know they're gonna look at it differently when they're adults than they do right now.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02They're just like, this is funny, our mom's like making this music, but kids have no like frame of reference yet, right? They're still little. Um, even sixth grade, they still are like just wrapping their brain around it. So um, you know, I think of that, I hope that they saw that like I sort of like followed my dreams and that maybe that they'll have the courage to do that too. And like was true to myself at a certain point. Like, like I said, I took like a lot of sidetracks and things, but like now I I just feel like you know what, I'm just I'm me and just being me through my music. And so, you know, sometimes it takes courage to do that.
SPEAKER_00This is it takes a lot of courage, but you you you're handling it very well. We all have them. We all have them. It doesn't matter if you're an artist or songwriter doing what I do with the radio biz and the podcast stuff. And we all have our ups and downs. You have your good moments, you have your bad moments. Let me um, I'd also like to ask that uh I'm gonna lighten it up here just a little bit. If you and I were to go for a ride right now, we're gonna go get an ice cream. What uh, you know, if I rode around with you, let's say for an hour, what artist uh would I be hearing in the car?
SPEAKER_02Well, uh, like I said today, I was listening to Ella Langley.
SPEAKER_00Oh man, she is the best. Not I mean, yeah, I'm sure you're just the best. She's just gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02I love to cover her. Um, you know, I I I love Morgan Wallin as much as anyone. Um and um I was I listened to Jordan Davis. I have listened to the song Bar None maybe 200 times.
SPEAKER_00Great song.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and then um, let's see, what else I you know, your algorithms like feature your your music that you've listened to over.
SPEAKER_00True, true. So what if besides country, what would I hear? Would I hear rock? Because you've played in you know a rock band. I mean, do you every once in a while just say, you know what? I'm gonna listen to this.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Um, I like uh how can I say this? Rock with balls?
SPEAKER_00No, no, you just said it, rock with balls. There's nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER_02You know, like I love the Buck Cherry song Lit Up.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02It's so powerful. Like I will put that on, repeat, and like I like to go running and listen to that. I mean, I love um This is the Rebecca side.
SPEAKER_00Bens and Roses record.
SPEAKER_02Yes, you know, I can listen to that forever. Lots of acoustic guitar on that, you know, that lies.
SPEAKER_00Um what about like a Zeppelin tune or something from going back a little bit?
SPEAKER_02I mean, I love Led Zeppelin. At the end of Don't Ever Date a Yankee, I've got the oh my. That's a shout-out for Robert Plant.
SPEAKER_00I know I want to talk about I want to I want to talk about that as well. But wow. See, I could I you're a pretty awesome rocker, I can tell you right now.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes. I mean, when you love music, you love music.
SPEAKER_00You love Were you crazy on stage when you uh were in a rock band? Because you know, some of these, I mean, every rock band I've seen, it gets a little little nuts.
SPEAKER_02Um I don't I don't know. We I we tried to put on a show.
SPEAKER_00You should. I love it. I love it. Um but you do have those folk roots, rock history and a country heart. Uh which side of you usually wins when you're making a record?
SPEAKER_02Um what I'm making, well, I mean, I'm making this record. You know, I I'm at a point in life where country is just right up my alley. First of all, I think country music is so good these days. It's so catchy, it's so well written. But I'm just, you know, like I wrote a song Small Town because I grew up in a small town. I'm raising my kids in a small town. Um uh just everything that's nostalgic about family, about um, you know, appreciating like the simple life is just resonates with me. I had my kids in Los Angeles. Okay, I went out there with my all-girl rock band, and I've got to move them home to a small town with community where everyone thinks just so homegrown, and you've got your like football team on the Fridays and baseball, and um it means a lot to me. So, and I I they're gonna have all those roots. So you hear those themes in
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SPEAKER_02country music a lot. So that really like that's where I'm at in life. And I I love country music. In fact, the last song that I wrote is called Country Music, yeah. Um Country Music Songs. Wait a second. I don't want to keep track of Country Music songs because I I realize you'll wake up in the morning and you'll be like, okay, I have another day and it's a challenge. And I'll be like, tell like Alexa to play Morgan Wallen. And it's just like, okay, I can handle the day now. I'm listening to some country music songs. So the last song that I wrote is called Good Old Fashion Fun and Country Music Songs.
unknownI love it.
SPEAKER_00Do you have a playlist on Alexa where you start your day at home, you get you getting the kids up, getting them ready for school, and you know, hey Alexa, play. And you said Morgan Wallen, but do you do you have like a playlist?
SPEAKER_02I'm not really a playlist person. I will pick a song and I will listen to it until I can't listen to it anymore.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02And then I'll move on to another song.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00So it doesn't matter how many times, but once you're once you're gonna do it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but I once you get what is it called? Burn.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, so I mean I'm a song. What's the radio phrase burn? How much burn does it have? That's you know, we look at that.
SPEAKER_02So but I like to just when I hear something, I love it, I just want to hear it over and over and over and over. Like, you know.
SPEAKER_00You know, I want to hear about um don't ever date a Yankee. I want to hear about that. First of all, where'd you get that title? What's up with that?
SPEAKER_02Um, so well, I don't know how some of these things enter my head.
SPEAKER_00Did you date a Yankee?
SPEAKER_02Well, I am a Yankee.
SPEAKER_00Well, you are because all right, from Yes. Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_02I'm right inside of Pennsylvania. No, but someone dated me who wasn't a Yankee.
SPEAKER_00So they didn't go over good.
SPEAKER_02No, well, yeah. There's so in my song These Jeans, there's there's a line, it's like that time that I ran off to Texas with that guy I met in Nashville. So it's that guy. And I was writing these jeans, and I almost worked in this theme because I was sitting there thinking, I'm like, yeah, he didn't like my well, we're not, we didn't stay together, let's just say that. Okay, sure there was many, many reasons. But so I thought, well, well, that's be a funny, we just had different conversations. He was from Louisiana, and um, we had different conversations, and uh, but I thought I started thinking that it would be fun to write a duet. Uh, and then I thought, well, that's a funny idea because it could be like a Romeo Juliet, Hatfield's McCoy, Starcross Lovers idea, and then like to tell that story, then you need a male voice and a female voice. And so I I I I started writing it, you know, it's it's it's a playful way to like they have a happy ending and live happily ever after, despite their differences. So, um and then you know, songs just like happen and words enter your mind.
SPEAKER_00You make it sound so easy.
SPEAKER_02Well, I I don't know if it's if it's easy or it's hard, it's it's an enigma.
SPEAKER_01Okay, right?
SPEAKER_02Right, songwriting. I mean, I don't know. I'm an amateur, ask other people, but I mean, I think I feel like my songs all kind of turned out okay. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00What about Adam Cunningham? Okay, so that is a cool I I want to hear about this story.
SPEAKER_02So I was down uh recording with Dean, and I was going back to finish some vocals, and I also brought in another song. Uh, and um because every time I go down, I'm like, wow, if I want to make this trip worth it, I should better write another song. So uh we were working on that, and then I thought, well, if I'm going down for one song, I better hurry up and write another. So I I finished writing right before I got down there, Don't Ever Date a Yankee. And um I went into Dean and I said, Dean, who could we get to sing the male part? Like, I I have this tuet. I'm like, like, could we get Morgan Wallet? He's like, Do you have some connections I don't know about, Rebecca? I'm like, no. And he's I'm so I'm just like brain like storming, like, what can I do? And he's like focused on other things, like what we're doing in the studio that day. So then, and I had a song that was called Someday Lullaby. It's it's gonna be out on DSPs next month.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02And um, so I was making TikToks, you know, everyone has to do TikToks these days because so many people find music through TikTok. And I was I had to ask some, I I usually like to talk to the musicians because I'm in awe of them. So as I'm about to go into the studio, someone else walks out and sits down. And I asked them, I'm like, Well, what does a lullaby mean to you? That was like my question of the day.
SPEAKER_00Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_02Um, because you know, lullabies are intriguing. And this nice looking guy sits down, and I knew he was the singer because he was like bantering with the piano player and he was like, Oh, those are some expensive chords in there, and they were like talking shop. So, and um, he like answered my question and this and that. And I'm like, Well, what's your name? And he's like, Adam Cunningham, and I'm like, okay, I feel like I could know that, but I wasn't sure. I didn't want to embarrass myself too much, so I kind of played it off. And then I went home and looked him up. I'm like, oh, that's Adam Cunningham from The Voice. So then I said to Dean, I'm like, Dean, could Adam be the male part on this duet that I wrote? And he's like, I know he'll do the scratch vocal because I know him well. And he's like, I'll ask him if he'll be the featured artist. And so he did ask Adam, and I'd met Adam, that probably didn't hurt. And then he agreed, and he sang, you know, the male vocal on Don't Ever Day to Yankee. And he sounds amazing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I'm just so lucky to have had that opportunity. Wow.
SPEAKER_00And you knew he was the voice that you wanted. And there was no if, ands, or buts about that. That was like, yeah, that's that's yeah, he I mean, he's a great singer.
unknownYeah. Wow.
SPEAKER_02He brought that to life. Um, he sang the lines in ways that I didn't imagine. And when I heard it the first time, I was like, yes.
SPEAKER_00Do you know that? Um, did you ever realize that the music helped you heal, of course? But are you helping other people heal? Let's hope so. With your music, you're sharing that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I hope so. I think so. Um, because you know, I put my music out, obviously, it's on radio. Uh you put it out on streaming, but I also just put on my personal Facebook page, and you know,
Influences From Ella Langley To Zeppelin
SPEAKER_02I'm walking in and out of like the hockey rink or like, you know, all the mom things, and they'll be like, Oh, Rebecca, we like your new song and the other moms, and like we know part of the backstory, and all we thought that was so funny when you sang this or that. And like those kinds of things make you realize, okay, people are connecting with this, and they're like getting something out of it themselves as well. And I mean, that's what is that what it's all about? Maybe, maybe it's that simple.
SPEAKER_00You've been through so much, and we talked about a lot of that already. But uh, for somebody listening right now, maybe they feel stuck, silenced, or like they've lost part of themselves. Uh, what would you want to say to them? Because you've been through so much. I mean, you we know about your relationships, you have the kids, you know, the father's on the west coast, your kids are over here on the east coast. So, what would you tell them?
SPEAKER_02Um, well, I would say go listen to these genes. Okay. Absolutely. But I mean, I'll tell you why, because um so this song, These Jeans, is uh I I I'm with my children all the time, and I don't go get to go out to like parties and uh bars and and do fun things like that. I'll sneak into a bar, play open mic, and then like go home. It'll be like real quick. Well, I mean, there was that one exception CRS last week, but they're getting a little older, but I've been a full-time mom. So um, but then I did go out uh to a fancy restaurant uh on an occasion, uh like last spring with a friend. And so I put on some cool clothes and like some jeans, and um, it was actually in Obu Malibu. I was out in California, and this girl comes up to me and she's like, I love your jeans. And where did you get those? So I'm thinking, okay, she's like a lot younger than me, and I had got these jeans when I was her age, and so I didn't want to disappoint her and be like, you know, well, I knew I was gonna have to disappoint her and be like, you can't buy these anymore. Like, they don't still make these jeans. But um, I don't know, maybe like the mom in me kicked in. So instead of being like, well, they haven't sold these in like 15, 20 years, I was like, these jeans, I I had bought them three kids ago. I'm like, two husbands ago. Like you're not gonna find out. But just talking about time in terms of experience. And so then I was like, that could be a cool idea for a song because they're like a metaphor. Like you've been through a lot, but you're still kicking, you're still putting one foot in front of the other. And um, like the jeans, the girl still likes the jeans. The jeans are here, they still look cool. Hey, I made it, I'm here, and still awesome, you know.
SPEAKER_00Awesome. Yeah. Um, wow. You know, when this chapter of your life is all said and done, Rebecca, um, what do you hope people say that Rebecca Snyder stood for? Um let's hope it's not gonna end anytime soon.
SPEAKER_02Maybe like authenticity.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. The real deal.
SPEAKER_02I I yeah, I I I feel like that's a good way to connect with people.
SPEAKER_00Where do you see yourself like in five years?
SPEAKER_02I don't have a plan.
SPEAKER_00It's probably, you know, it's that's a tough question.
SPEAKER_02I was thinking about that. Like, I really don't have a plan.
SPEAKER_00But you're just gonna take it as it happens.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm enjoying all of this, and um maybe I don't know what's gonna happen next. I'm just enjoying it all.
SPEAKER_00This is your very first radio tour.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00And this is the first time besides CRS that you've been hitting up other radio stations and talking to radio people and well uh no.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, I went to like some local stations.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna ask, okay, in your hometown.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, um, Pennsylvania stations. Uh you know, uh CDX is also representing.
SPEAKER_01Sure.
SPEAKER_02Um last time I was in California with the kids, I stopped in Boise, Idaho. There's a DJ out there, cat country, Scott Cameron Cameron, Scotty Cameron, do you know?
SPEAKER_00Uh I know cat country. There's a there's a lot of cat country.
SPEAKER_02There's a lot of cat countries. But you know, um, so I stopped in Boise, Idaho. Really, what I've been doing is like as many stations as I can get to.
SPEAKER_00I want to you have to do that. You have to do that. And I'm so glad that you made the time to, you know, to come over here and sit with me. Thank you for having me. You know, absolutely. But uh, you know, it's just so important that I feel the artists do that, and you know it's fun. Is it really?
SPEAKER_02Oh, I think it's really fun getting to share.
SPEAKER_00But how much, you know, with being a mom and the kids, and you're always with the kids, but now you're away from the kids. Do you feel like, okay, I get a break? Or uh how do you handle it?
SPEAKER_02I went down to CRS and I was gonna stay three nights. Okay. And after two nights, I was like, stuff started going haywire. And I'm like, I have to get home and like take care of it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I don't really like to be away for too long.
SPEAKER_00I gotcha. Do you drive?
SPEAKER_02I should probably relax. I flew down from Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. Pretty quick. Pretty quick. Um, I know you you've got your guitar. Can we hear a couple of tunes? Can you, you know?
SPEAKER_02I would love to share some.
SPEAKER_00I want to hear them.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00I I think this is so good. It's Rebecca Snyder uh who is with us uh tonight on Skip Hop, and she's gonna reach over for her guitar and bring it back over here. I don't think everyone's on. No, it's up to you. It's up to you.
SPEAKER_02I tuned it before I left.
SPEAKER_00So
Writing A Duet And Meeting Adam Cunningham
SPEAKER_00I love the guitar. So what is that? Uh is it Taylor or Martin? What is it?
SPEAKER_02Uh this is a Gibson. A Gibson, okay. I don't know if you noticed, but it matches the shirt.
SPEAKER_00I I do see that. I bought it. You're like, girl, you're all country tonight. You look good. You're doing it, you're making it happen.
SPEAKER_02I also play Gibson on the show.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_02But this is the first time I I I did buy this. I bought this to do this radio stuff.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02A month ago, like invested in the guitar.
SPEAKER_00You know, I mean, well, you you get ready to play there, but uh this is a very, very major expense for an artist like you. And this is coming out of your pocket to get yourself out there, push your music. You went out and bought the guitar for the radio tour. Yeah, I'm sure, you know, I had my eye on this for a while. You pulled up in a car in front of my house and went, skip. I go, Yeah, that's me. Come on in. So that was crazy.
SPEAKER_02Nothing too glamorous. No, but but yeah, um, I had my eye on this for a while, so that's a beautiful, beautiful guitar.
SPEAKER_00It's one of the reasons I was asking.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean I can play these jeans or America too, but let me just Try this.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Why don't we try to pull that microphone a little bit closer, one way or the other.
SPEAKER_02And uh here's I just want to get your feedback. So do you think this is a catchy chorus or not?
SPEAKER_00Okay, we're gonna find out right now. It's Rebecca Snyder right here on Skip Hack.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, I'm gonna play the song after this, but you just oh, okay. All right, let's do it.
SPEAKER_00Let's do it.
SPEAKER_03Gets the whole part thinking, might be kinda hammer along and good old fashioned fun with country music, country music songs.
SPEAKER_02So the the words are still subject to change. I'm not a hundred percent sure because you know this this is this is the one I recorded, but I haven't like f finalized the vocals. But that was the chorus that I was like, okay, that's the chorus. I like it.
SPEAKER_00I do like it.
SPEAKER_02And that's about country music things. They're making me so happy.
SPEAKER_00I like it. I just I'm just reading here to see who's chiming in. I see Brandon Walters skipped the man the oh please. No, okay, we gotta go. No, I love Brandon. Uh, thanks for watching. Appreciate you, man. And uh here she is, Rebecca Snyder.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I'll play these jeans now.
SPEAKER_00Okay, alright.
SPEAKER_02I told you the story.
SPEAKER_00You did.
SPEAKER_02Now, I will say though, when you hear the D on streaming, you're gonna hear electric guitars, mandolin, the full band. You get the full deal. I originally wrote it.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02That's how I played at open lakes or wherever I played it. Radio stations.
SPEAKER_03Thank you very kindly, ma'am. I do initiate you say that you like the jeans I'm wearing, and the things too look good on me. Let me tell you, I've lost a lot as much as me. I've still got those jeans with me a lot when I was six too. Oh, I've been through a hell of a lot, ma'am, since the day when I first brought the least wander to Helen McLean. Really are some worn out things. Make that two husbands, you'll bring us to for a curious system. Or another thief, she still look good on me. Good on me, good on me, good on me, good on me. A war refers to New York City, doing lads and drinking whiskey. Don't think they ever hit a wall. And that time when I ran off to Texas with that guy I met in Nashville. I didn't pack much more besides these jeans. Or was it the other way around? But I don't know how. And these jeans still look good on me. Good on me. Good on me. Good on me. Good on me. Good on me. Good on me. Good on me I've been through a hell of a lot, ma'am, since the day when I first thought that Make that three kids to go to husbands, too. But hey, who's gotten sexy and they're not too tight? Sit through homework every night. Sit all bleaching every game, raising me some babies. Raising me some babies. Thank you very kindly, ma'am. I do appreciate you saying that you like jeans.
SPEAKER_00Wow, like those jeans. Those jeans. Thank you. To Rebecca Snyder, uh, if you're just tuning in or you've been with us the whole time and you just kind of got so intrigued with the music that you forgot her name. Well, remember it's Rebecca Snyder. And uh that that can be found online too, right? I mean, you were talking about that a few minutes ago.
SPEAKER_02Yes, there's a music video on YouTube for this one. And um it's on iTunes, Spotify, and Rebecca is spelled R-E-B-E-K-A-R.
SPEAKER_00Oh, they don't see it in the camera's.
SPEAKER_02So like it's the uh it's the l less common spelling of Rebecca.
SPEAKER_00So, R E K A H. I had to think about it. I'm not good with spelling. It's like, how does she spell her name?
SPEAKER_02Neither is my middle child.
SPEAKER_00I love it. Let's do another one, if you don't mind. Is it cool?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh, you know what? I I'll play America.
SPEAKER_00Um, yeah, that'll be cool.
SPEAKER_02And so, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, my grandfather said to me, Girl, you're in the finest nation, and I fought to keep it free. You will grow and you will learn any dear. See, America has made the world a better place to be. America
These Jeans Story And Staying Resilient
SPEAKER_03will fight for all that's right, with all her might yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll fight, for all that's right, we are you right now. America has seen a trustee, and I know my grandfather is looking down at me. My heart is strong and brave as his. I'll do my best to be the American will make the world a better place to be. I will fight for all that's right with all her might yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah we'll fight for all that's right. We are you fighting. We are Americans and generations proud to be long though, our country vowed to keep this world free from many faces and many races. Our common born will be at every last marine, we will fight for our own beat. We'll fight for all that's right, with all that might, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll fight for all that's right. We are you're fighting, we may we'll fight for all that's right with all her might yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll fight for all that's right, we are you never might grandfather said to me.
SPEAKER_00Wow, yeah. Let me give you a little applause with that. That's the in-studio audience that you do not see, but uh Rebecca Snyder, there you go. Somebody wants to get some uh get the music, uh, where can they go? Just about anywhere online?
SPEAKER_02Oh, absolutely. So iTunes, YouTube, Spotify, everywhere that you can stream music. You can go to my website, Rebecca SnyderOfficial.com. You can follow me on TikTok. I have like TikTok to all these recording sessions and a lot of radio visits. Oh, cool. Rebecca.snyder. But again, the spelling is key. R-E-B-E-K-H. So do please follow me on TikTok and on Spotify.
SPEAKER_00Do it. Do it.
SPEAKER_02And Facebook.
SPEAKER_00Or Skip Happens. Just saying. Uh no, do that. Uh Rebecca, thank you for coming by the Pod Zone. I call it the Pod Zone, uh, Skip Happens, and uh such an honor to meet you and and to get to know you a little bit and hear your story.
SPEAKER_02Well, it was an honor to both on and off camera.
SPEAKER_00Well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02No, no.
SPEAKER_00But uh your story is proof that getting your voice back can become uh the most powerful part of the story. And I think people are going to hear that all over this music. They're gonna hear it. That's awesome. You're awesome, Rebecca. God bless you. Thank you for being here. Skip happens, everybody, and uh don't forget to subscribe. Uh
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SPEAKER_00you're watching this, if you're watching it on YouTube, just make sure you subscribe. If you see the link anywhere, just click subscribe and uh you know not to miss another episode because I do them all the time. All right, have a good night, everybody. Peace.