Who Owns Your Time Owns Your MInd...the Mayan Calendar with Lisa K. Townsend

Lisa Townsend is a Body Worker, Reiki Master and Author. But for thiry years she has been studying the Mayan Calendar. From her Facebook Group page: TIME,SCIENCE,& ART:The focus of this group will be Time Science as an art and a science. It applies to health in that the Tzolkin archeypes ARE the 20 amino acids that spin our DNA.

The purpose of following the Tzolkin is to let your mind transcend belief in the illusion of the material world and live more in true time. It's important to know that there is no coincidence. It's synchronicity and we can prove it. You were born onto a planet in a small solar system that exists within a vast cosmos. The Tzolkin speaks to your universal self, not just your birth or solar self aligned with our sun and your family.

There is consciousness in the universe. Being aware of True Time NOW is the key to balancing the brain in rationality and intuition so that we all become more reasonable. The world needs to be reasonable yes! Less ego, less emotional drama, less clever, less conflict between women and men. Let's be more creative, constructive, reasonable and tolerant. https://www.facebook.com/lisaktownsend1311/

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:14

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Speaker 2: 0:15

hi, I'm Alice Motor Serrano and you are listening to chasing rabbits. Today. I want you to put on your thinking caps because today we're going to be talking about the Mayan calendar, the 13 moon calendar. And along with that was a concept that, was started by Jose Arquelles And I want to tell a little story about that. The harmonic convergence was 1987. And Jose had been a professor who was studying the Mayan calendar. He's an artist, he's a peace activist. He's, was a renaissance man. He's now passed on and I believe I had read a book about him and learned about what was called the harmonic convergence in 1987. So my son was two years old and when he would nap, I would meditate. When he would nap. I would read, and I think this is a spiritual book that I found out about Jose. And,, the day of the hammer on the convergence, I got a bunch of us together, my husband, my son, uh, my niece, my sister, and some other people. And we wanted to go out into nature to bring in this supposed high energy day. And we went to a place called Apple River Canyon in Illinois. Now I was not fully conscious of what I was doing and online calendar as my guest will tell you, has a lot to do with synchronicities. So Apple River Canyon was the place where my great grandparents settled and they were the first white people in that county. My great grandfather became postmaster general and ran the stage coach place. And he later became the Indian agent for the area. Now when you will hear our talk, that synchronicity with my DNA and the place and my family and bringing family there, there are no coincidences. And we stayed overnight in tents and camp out and the next day it started to pour down rain, not just rain, but a big thunderstorm. We thought maybe it might even be a tornado. So we got in the car and huddled together and, and it was one of those storms that shook the car. It was very dramatic. And so when the storm was over, we got back on the road and as we were driving back home, we saw the most intense, beautiful whole rainbow I have ever seen and I thought to myself, maybe there is something to this."just as air is the atmosphere of the body. So time is the atmosphere of the mind in the time in which we live consists of on the even months and days regulated by mechanized minutes and hours. That is what becomes of our mind, a mechanized irregularity. Since everything follows from the mind, it is no wonder that the atmosphere in which we live daily becomes more polluted and the greatest complaint is I just don't have enough time. Who owns your time, owns your mind, own your own time and you will know your mind is Jose. The 13 moon calendar is not just a count of days, but a synchronistic frame of reference for tracking patterns of synchronicities. As I said, consider the following precept of the law of time. Time is up the mind. Time is the evolution of consciousness. Time is the universal factor of synchronicity. Time is art. Now I'd like to welcome my guest

Speaker 3: 5:36

today. My guest is Lisa K. Townsend, who just happened to be my niece, my sister's daughter, and Lisa every day does deep tissue therapy. She's a body worker and she's a Reiki and also a published author. And the name of her book is healer correctly, so

Speaker 4: 6:06

correct. That's correct. Welcome. Thank you.

Speaker 3: 6:10

And what we are going to with all that she does, what we're really going to talk about today is, I consider it, Lisa wouldn't say this, but I consider Lisa to be an expert in the Mayan calendar, the 13 moon calendar and a, that's what we're going to talk about today. And Lisa has been doing this for over 30 years. Right. When I asked, when I said that she was a expert, she said, my mind is just full of it. So, um, and she could talk for a year on this. Yeah. And for me today, I'm just going to be asking questions and letting Lisa talk and uh, and so the first thing I want to know, Lisa on this funny, how did you get started doing this?

Speaker 4: 7:14

It's all your fault. Yeah, yeah. I used to live in Sedona and it was a beautiful place to live. I have great memories there. Um, I do believe Richard Eagle was living in town and maybe still does, I don't know. No. And had some kind of presentation or something or, and then I met him, you invited me over to the house and I met him and we chatted and I was immediately attracted to the information and just, it was a kind of thing that hits you. It's like, I love this, you know, and so immediately my whole self responded, I guess I would say in synchronicity with mine information. And it is not a baby. It's only gotten deeper. Let me tell Ya, from that day forward, I think it was 19,

Speaker 3: 8:03

it was 1992. It was the harmonic Convegence 2 And that's how we met Richard, is that Edwin and I, if any, if any of you want to go online on Youtube and check it out, it's, it's our documentary about that period of time into bonus and yeah, and Richard is in that video, uh, giving a brief seminar on the 13 moon calendar. And it was during that time, I said it was before you met Richard. I went, Lisa, you might be interested in that. Just really, you know, flip it like that. Just this something you might be interested. Yeah. And the rest is history and the calendar. We did it, you know, I think back, all of us did your calendar together. Stephen and Edwin did art and your ex husband did photography and my, I'm pregnant with my daughter. Open the calendar. Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 4: 9:24

Moving to me to think back on that.

Speaker 3: 9:27

Yeah. It was 1992. So that's when you started doing it.

Speaker 4: 9:34

Yeah. And, and the thing that's so crazy about the Vulcan, which is really what the Mayans are team and calendar is okay. Is it, it becomes very personal. So it, when it starts, when you start dialing up the synchronicities in your own same plex and your own family and everything, it, it's amazing how the events call last and things that are very meaningful to your heart and to your life. Start to just be calm. You become aware of them and as you become aware of them, you become aware of your destiny and you start to remember who you are.

Speaker 3: 10:07

Okay, so let's do that. That's perfect overview to explain the basics. Now when we say 13 moon calendar, explain, because I'm not sure everyone listening to this will understand that won't even understand that 12 months is not natural,

Speaker 4: 10:32

right? 12 months comes from the Catholic Church and the Gregorian, the Gregorian pope, Gregory a calendar. And before that, the Julian calendar, um, it's not even legitimate. Really. What, what is legitimate is, um, the 365 days solar year. That is a correct count. So we live in a solar system of, you know, so many planets. I don't know if it's eight, 10, whatever, and the sun, the 365 days, here is the count. And the tracking of that. However, with the 13 moon calendar does, is take all of those 365 days and splits it exactly into 13 full moon cycles because in fact there are 13 full moon cycles. So there is a joining or a a call last thing of the lunar cycles, the solar cycles and the 13 moon or this or the Zawkins cycles. So there's a Sprott. Okay,

Speaker 3: 11:37

so it's natural law.

Speaker 4: 11:39

It's natural universal order. Absolutely. It's, it's natural time.

Speaker 3: 11:44

Natural time. It's real time. It's, it's, it's as nature. I mean I, you know the, the, the blue moons when they say the Blue Moon, I'm like, what? What, what are y ou c ranking? There is no such thing as a blue moon.

Speaker 4: 12:04

No, they've kind of named, I don't know why they've kind of named every full moon, which happens every 28 days by the way. So 13 times 28 equals 364 so the correlation do just do the math. I mean what happens with the zol kin or the mines or two moves is once you do the math, there's no disputing it. Two plus two is four. So, and if you keep doing that into infinity and you do it with the Zalkin, it comes out exactly, which is sort of why I stick with it.

Speaker 3: 12:37

So it is, uh, that humans could have control over each other instead of being in sync with nature, which is, which is my biggest beef with my clients. What I say to Manny, I say, okay, you want to know about hope, just go outside. Yeah, because I, I, being in nature is the only truth.

Speaker 4: 13:09

Yes, absolutely true. Same with my work and holism. I say the same thing and of course I'm up against the medical. We want medical insurance, we want, we want to keep paying our, here's the deductibles in there, but okay, whole wisdom is, is very uh, affordable. Uh, you need to take care of yourself. You need to be a participant with your body depart, be a participant with your mind and the Zol can, in mine information goes exactly along with that because it does have to do with taking into account how correlated ancient wisdom is with our modern time. This stuff isn't new. You know, it's all light workers know everything that we're doing and bringing forward is already been done before and taught before. Right.

Speaker 3: 14:03

I just got out my journal because I was looking at,, we were going to talk today and so I wanted to look in my journal for 1992 and I wrote, and I wrote down in 1992, the things I think are new are just me being aware of things that every, that have already happening. There was nothing new.

Speaker 4: 14:27

Not right on sister. Yeah, absolutely. Right? Yep. And so all of the citizens are remembering. So the reasons I've been doing this for 30 years is I'm healing myself, which is the name of my book, healer and what the name of that is. Not that I'm healing other people, that I'm healing myself and then being a service as a lightworker to help other people heal themselves. Yes. So it's a twist around of this codependent or dysfunctional paradigm thing of we're here to heal other people. No wait, the earth and us and everything in us and aligning with our destiny, which all can does this all can lines you up with your body and your universal or multidimensional self. So it's a roadmap. It, it's, it's, it is, but it's way more than that to, okay. Can I want to give you this analogy? Yes. I thought of it earlier. you're an actor and I'm an actor too. Yeah. B ut when you're in t his theater, you have a huge spotlight, right? And you have the lighting people and then the lighting people have these gels, colored gels, they slot in the front. Okay. As a vulgar analogy, think of that huge light as the sun. Our Sun in the solar system. Think of t he t heater as our solar system. So our whole 3d local n eighborhood solar system is t he theater a s t he staging area is earth and we're all actors on t he stage on earth you see a nd the G el. Okay. That colored Gel. The analogy is the Zalkin t hat Z ol can is like the c olored Gel that goes in, in front of the sun and i s projected out onto earth as a holographic projection. Okay. O h No. When people call. Yeah. When people call Earth a matrix, it literally is literally i s, it literally is a 3d matrix. And what's happening now, and again, why I like this little can is quantum physics and all that theories, they've moved from hypothesis up to theory at this point are coming to fruition. They're there past newtons are throwing out Newton, then they're in the Einstein and now they're almost refuting Einstein and getting into, you know, the newer people. And it's like, it's proving that everything that this all can is about and all of the math is correct. We're living in a holographic universe that's projected for multi-dimensional existence out at the outer reaches and it comes in. So how do we individually fit in to this token, to this calendar? This is very, very personal. So, um, there are two, a hundred. Ah, it's hard to bring it down. It's hard to bring it down. Well, I'm going back to the big game. Yeah. Yeah. Well, when, okay, I'll go way back to the being. When you come on, when every single person is born on the earth, you come through your parents, specifically your mother and father. That is your birth DNA. Now in terms of pure science, that is, you're in, that's your solar cell. That's your 3d. I'm coming onto earth. I'm making a body. Yep. I'm going to knock around in this family. I'm going to imprint and be programmed in this family. You know, here's the beginning and this is what I'm going to do. That's your beginning DNA. But what the scientists don't want to talk about is that there is a part of you that is from the greater universe and that's the RNA, the ribonucleic acid, that stuff wiggles all over the place. They can't control it. They can't put their finger on it, and it's constantly moving and evolving. That's your multidimensional self. That's the other. It's actually one with the DNA, which is rigid. So those exact DNA genes from your parents are rigid. Right. So crazy. Now that they try to control them as we know, they tried to do gene splicing and all this stuff, right? They don't have a handle on the entire genome because they cannot process and prove the multi-dimensional piece of the DNA. But it's in there. And I've actually got these places,

Speaker 3: 18:57

so, okay. So let me, let me, um, as B one with listeners. Um, uh, so the DNA, are we talking the multi-dimension every person is like the, what? What I have learned, uh, is like emotional, spiritual, uh, theoric bodies. Is that what we're talking about? That, that is c, I would think that those are energy bodies, right? Right. Absolutely. And so the energy bodies make up, uh, I don't know if they're connected to the, of course cert connected to the physical body or, or how would you explain this? The, these bodies that you're talking about?

Speaker 4: 19:56

You're, okay. So like when I'm doing Reiki or when you're doing a reading, um, yeah, think of, think of the n whatever. But everybody who's listening probably knows this. Your chakras extent, you know, arms wide right out around you. Right? But then there's, but then there's the mind, the mind is okay, the mind is just somebody, yes, the brain is the physical receptor. Yes. Like a radio channel. What's your mind is actually out in the ethers and is one with

Speaker 3: 20:26

yes. Everything that is, yes. No, I, that's a very important statement I do is some listeners may not understand that. Okay. Right.

Speaker 4: 20:35

They don't, yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you want me to get more simple with that?

Speaker 3: 20:43

Uh, no physical. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4: 20:47

So like,

Speaker 3: 20:48

okay, so like what I tell my patients and they seem to understand this is that they literally have fun. Okay. We're talking about the physical body now and our perceptions about who we are in the Hologram. Yes. The holographic projection, we perceive ourselves as solid. Okay. So like hitting on a table or whatever, it's actually been literally proven. I mean, it's a scientific fact that 98 98 and 99% of every single cell of everything that's may not earth is empty space. Right. Spinning at the speed of 60,000 miles per second. So what we are as you sit here or talk or whatever, we are spinning at an incredible, oh my God, we're spinning at such a fast rate with intention and feeling and mind and everything that's coming in. Like you just said, the seven bodies, the theoric body, the mental body. Anyway, from the shock or one off, just shocked with 12 I guess. I don't know. We are spinning intention and vibration, so that literally weren't visible. So if we were not spinning with this intention and this Mindel energy, nobody would be able to see it. Meaning a high vibration, meaning our vibration could be, it really could be slowed down to the point where you could be kind of present in one of these other levels, which you wouldn't be visible on earth. Hence my work.

Speaker 4: 22:21

Okay.

Speaker 3: 22:24

Hence Yan, why I say to people all the time, they're right here. We just[inaudible]. There

Speaker 4: 22:29

you go. So, and that is perfect with the zoll can, because then the Zol can we talk about entities or souls or people coming into the planet from implicate order to explicate order. And then every 20 days we'll give the 20 day cycle. Everything on earth is implicated, meaning it's implicit. And then it's something to kind of really meditate on because everything that's implicated literally comes projected through the sun and is manifested or explicate. Okay. All that means is you can see it. Yeah. And touch it. Right? That's all it means. It doesn't mean it's real. So there's the big thing about earth is that everybody looks at the desk, they look at the body, they look at the chair. Oh, that's real. No, no, it's bad. It's just a projection of an implicate order that is really, really can be proved. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. The scientists are all over it, but um, there's, there's a deep cycle that goes on that is coordinated with our astrological planets as a mediating planet between the 20 tribes of time, which is what the dream spell calls it. And they are our multi-dimensional selves or our souls that come from source to come from the Galactic Center. And that's who we really are, you know?

Speaker 3: 23:59

Wow. Yeah. You just put everything your work and my work. Yeah. Right out there on the table that we've, that was very well said, Lisa, about it. It's everything that you have the, the roadmap and the language. Yeah. I just see it, feel it and, and uh, try to explain best I can to my clients when they come here and want to know where, where their loved ones are and that we can have a relationship with them and it's very personal. Yeah, sure. And first comes down. Yeah. Yeah. And, and this is interesting because I have many clients that over time I am working with their loved one who is passed to communicate to me and they communicate to them and it makes movement in and has changed their lives. Yes. It changes the radio reciprocity. Yeah. Because I'm the radio. I'm, yes. I'm the radio that is just, that's all I am. I'm, I'm able to see and hear. Yeah. Those other dimensions. So, um, in this 13 moon, um, calendar the day that you are born is the important to finding out where you fit. Okay is a

Speaker 4: 25:42

very big deal. It's a very big deal. Make sure you know exactly the day you were born. And guys, like I said, your manifested or advocated, you know, in through your parents, which is also a very big deal. It's really important to not minimize your birth family. And I'll really quickly, I want to tell you why. Make sure you know your birthday. But here's the thing. When you look at that five archetypal scenes wax, which is the j you were born, your scene is in the middle, like for you is 13, a yellow, 13 seat. And then you have a guide power. And then on the right is your support underneath your hidden wisdom and to the left, the antipodes or your polar opposite challenge. Your hidden wisdom is your subconscious mind or manifestation of your subconscious mind, which is formed in Utero by your mother from the ages of zero to seven. And your father, if he was present and you heard voice and he lived with your mother, which is kind of a far stretch, a lot of people, you know, were brought forth on the planet and their father wasn't there. So I mean, it's not something to really assume about people but it, so if that was the case in your mother literally is a huge piece in your destiny and it's a huge important issue on the planet as we know mothers and children. Look what we're going through right now politically. I mean it's unbelievably important that are the foundation of our human rights rests on women and children. And it's because babies are born and formed and their minds are formed and they're part of their destiny is formed by the input, the emotions, the feelings, the choices of their mother while their mother had them in Utero. And then while their mother was, was breastfeeding and raising them until the age of seven. It's a huge, big deal. I mean, that's why so many people know the advocacy for children and for women is gonna. It can change the planet. You can chase the destiny of the planet, which is why the Mayans routine moon does tend to have a preponderance on women and what women need feel the 13 moon, 28 day cycle, you know the menstruation cycles, the normal cycle is 28 days. The 13 moon is awesome and I don't want to cause I believe in gender balance, but obviously we're not gender balance on the planet and it's really important and a lot of the masters who walked the planet, we're trying to teach, bring the women back up. Equality, equal power status. It's such a big deal. Equal power status with the male. And in terms of the universal elements, no mother spirit, father spirit, son and daughter. You know the real trinity is mother spirit, father spirit and the son and the daughter. That's the trainee. It's not the trinity that the Church teaches, which is all male. So the natural law and the human race follows the n another big deal. The human race follows the natural projections from the universe center and the universe. So the family unit, Male, female, children, and I'm not disparaging a homosexual people cause that's also part of nature. You see homosexuality in nature as well, even amongst the animals and plants. But generally speaking, when it comes for reproduction, when it comes to reproduction, you do need the male, the female and the child. You know, this is off the subject, but on the subject, um, and I think I've told you this

Speaker 3: 29:42

and a, um, before we probably need to, um, do a final thing here and I'll have you back on Lisa to be more specific. Um, uh, I was laying on the acupuncture table about five years ago and I, uh, had never heard from my brother who, uh, passed it 27 when I was 19. So this would have been five years ago. I'd never heard from him except for three days after his death. He came to me, but he came to me and gave me a personal message for his son, which was synchronistic and then a message about his daughters. And then he said to me, do you know what I do now? Greg was an engineer and he said, I work with the energies of DNA. Do you want to go see this? I'm on the occupant puncture, I'm out of it, right in the act. And then I black out, go to sleep, don't know what. And I go with him. And basically what I remembered, so this just came up as you were talking about this. Uh, what I basically remembered him telling me is it's very, it's like a computer and it's in, in fitting the pieces of the energies of families and the energies of DNA and correcting, uh, bringing people in to make adjustments and the how they have to uh, figure this all out, um, to bring us to earth.

Speaker 4: 31:47

Yes, that is correct. That my friend who, you know, Roohan Xolair, I don't call him that personally, but his public name, his real hustler says the exact same thing that the zol can, is like a computer program that helps program the Matrix. And I have discovered that they are actually literally 20 amino acids based on the work of, um, Dr. Chavez. Um, and I've got that confirmed now. And, um, he says the same thing. I, I'm not a huge fan of technology and computers and all that because I mean, but it is a pretty apt analogy and I'm not gonna dispute it at this point that that actually works. It

Speaker 3: 32:37

is, it's the only when I blacked out and came to, it was the only thing that I could, of course the computer came from Matt, the consciousness of those, uh, who made the computer, uh, the consciousness came from, from where my brother is. Correct. Exactly right. It's, it's not, it's, you know, this is crude. This is very crude, the computer in comparison to where he took me because, because it is, um, uh, you know, I tell people all the time when they ask me, well, how can you do this? How can you, how can, you know, how can you know my aunt Virginia who lives in, you know, I'll just be sitting here and I'll say, who's Virginia is she? And then she live in Seattle. And they'll look at me like, how did you know that? And, and I, I say it's because it's a web, it's holographic. And so what you're saying Lisa, it's a holographic, um, overlay.

Speaker 4: 34:02

Yeah. It's an overlay. It is an overlay. Overlays, it, there's so much information out there for us to grab into our minds and our brains. It's not even funny. I mean, I have to, I don't know how you do. I turn, I shut my down. I can't, I can't just keep channeling and bringing in information from the Easters like I shut it down.

Speaker 3: 34:22

No, I, I try to be, I'm sure with you, I am not me when I'm working, I'm, uh, I have to be Alice. I have to go off and be Alison Watch the baseball game, you know? But, uh, I feel like when I'm doing my work, I'm truly not me. Elyssa Ellis always goes and takes a chair over, you know, I go and sit over there. Wow. That's a good way to think about it. Yeah. I tell you, it's the only way I could do my work. Back in the day. My Ego would come in and go, you can't say that. They'll think you're so, you're stupid. You can't say that. They'll think you're crazy. And I would look at her and say, you know what, why don't you take a chill pill, keep me breathing and keep one body going and go over there and sit down. And that's what I do. I leave Alice sitting over there just to keep everything moving. And I mean, I, I am myself. I'm not like, I don't go trance

Speaker 4: 35:32

Ellis. This is the daughter of Paul. The seal just kind of just leaves this, the daughter of David. I've been so aware of my multi-dimensional cosmic self since I was 20. I mean, if I can live, think back and look at my journals, it's like, oh my God, it was coming in then. Yeah. But I was remembering who I was. Yes. From a higher self. And it's only evolved to that point. Now I'm 56 so I mean, my whole life is about being who I am as a universal soul.

Speaker 3: 36:03

Yes. And that has very little to do. And that's what I try to touch. Even when people come in here, you know, it's often that the medium ship, uh, people come in here because of their grief, but before they leave, I want them to understand what we just talked about today, that this is not magic and that this is, this is just normal that yes, they are still with us and that we have to know who we are in the body now because we have work to do. Yes, all of us have worked to do.

Speaker 4: 36:47

And just so we, I mean people just so people understand that spiritual people are grounded. I still am in touch with my family and I still value the family. And maybe marriage, you know, if you're going to be a father and the child and everything. So it's not that I'm, you know, so often left field that I no longer, you know, value, anything that's considered normal. It's just that we have a different perspective. Spiritual people. I like artists. I mean we have a different perspective on what the reason for living is. And for us, the reason for living is your heart and your chips and, and, and your, your creative self that we don't live from money and stop and vacations and I'm sorry, we just told you no. Right. Values are different. Right. There's all,

Speaker 3: 37:41

so I want to end this on saying that having you come back and we're going to get pers, we're going to get specific when you come back, um, that the 13 moon calendar or the token can give each toe camp. How do you say it?

Speaker 4: 38:04

[inaudible] zone. Volkan it's cause it's spelled with a t scope is silent, but there's a TV. Oh, okay. Okay. All right.

Speaker 3: 38:14

Um, that each of us has a roadmap in this overlay and the, as a result we can, it doesn't have to be a mystery. Right. Our lives do not have to be mystery. Our lives do not have to be searching outside of self.

Speaker 4: 38:46

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 38:47

And that by goodness, if we could all be in sync with this, everything would be a really wonderful attuned, uh, world. If each of us could be, um, attuned to the natural law and this thing that has been given to us, isn't that correct?

Speaker 4: 39:13

Absolutely. Loss would be. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So that's what I, that's what I'm all about.

Speaker 3: 39:19

We need to spread the word. It's why I wanted you on, so yeah. Okay. Lisa, Lisa, give us a, your information to contact you all the emails or websites or whatever.

Speaker 4: 39:36

Sure. Well, I have a Facebook page now. It's kind of fun. I've got to, um, I don't know how many, 110 followers is all time science and art is the Facebook group. Okay. And that's all you would search on in the search box and Facebook. Um, I have a really nice blog. That one has like$500. Lisa K. Townsend, author.com k site. Um, my business site is just medical massage, t r.com.

Speaker 3: 40:15

And gr is grand rapids,

Speaker 4: 40:17

ma'am. In grand rapids, Michigan. Okay. Even in shaken. Okay. And I guess we met pretty much covers it. People can always call me as well. I mean, I do have a public phone number, so I mean, it depends on who's listening and if they want to chart, I mean, if they wanted to call me or contact me for, um, what I do though, I'm multi-dimensional Vulcan Chart, which is your destiny chart, and it's got your, um, coordination of some of your astrology with your Zalkin lineup. My number is six one six three two eight four two, four two.

Speaker 3: 40:56

Great. Well, thanks Lisa. A lot. And I learned, I learned a lot. You know, you've, you've done so much since the very beginning back in the day and, uh, I learned a lot today from, from this discussion. So, um, we'll have to do this again.

Speaker 4: 41:18

Oh, I hope so. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3: 41:20

Thanks Kelly. Thank you. And this is chasing rabbits. Come back again. Bye.

Speaker 1: 41:42

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