So an Atheist and a Catholic enter a podcast studio...I had a great time and a great conversation with Eric Robert Morse, author of The Juggernaut: Why the System Crushes the Only People Who Can Save it."This poem by William Blake was great fodder for a much larger discussion: What is the ideal society and how does one build it.What I found most interesting in this discussion was that eventually we got to the point where we were discussing out methods of thinking. This is the most critical aspects of coming to conclusion. If one person see the world as concretes disconnected from abstractions or vice versa or somewhere in between that makes it hard to converse. Yet we figured it out and by the end came to some interesting conclusions on how an atheist and a Catholic can come to some serious agreements.Enjoy.