Netflix changed the game of how we watch television. So much so that, many of us first tried out Netflix to see if we could avoid having to drive to Blockbuster. After all, gas prices where were closing in on $2/gallon and who could afford that extra driving? Now we spend longer scrolling to just find something to watch. But Netflix, known for giving people something to watch while they chill, is saying sharing is caring no more when it comes to passwords.
In this episode we share how we think the password crackdown might change peoples finances. Are more people adding Netflix to their budgets or will the competition continue to take subscriptions from the company that took down Blockbuster and the video stores? Will you pay more to add a friend? We also answer what streaming service we would cancel last.
So stop using info@sdflc.org and Password: Philloveskittens! to watch Netflix and register for your free 30 day trial instead. Just don't forget to add it to your budget or cancel in the next month.
Netflix changed the game of how we watch television. So much so that, many of us first tried out Netflix to see if we could avoid having to drive to Blockbuster. After all, gas prices where were closing in on $2/gallon and who could afford that extra driving? Now we spend longer scrolling to just find something to watch. But Netflix, known for giving people something to watch while they chill, is saying sharing is caring no more when it comes to passwords.
In this episode we share how we think the password crackdown might change peoples finances. Are more people adding Netflix to their budgets or will the competition continue to take subscriptions from the company that took down Blockbuster and the video stores? Will you pay more to add a friend? We also answer what streaming service we would cancel last.
So stop using info@sdflc.org and Password: Philloveskittens! to watch Netflix and register for your free 30 day trial instead. Just don't forget to add it to your budget or cancel in the next month.
Welcome to Talk Wealth To Me, a safe space podcast where we chat about anything and everything related to personal finance. The information contained in this podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. It does not constitute as accounting, legal, tax, or other professional advice.
Chase Peckham:Hello everybody. I'm Chase Peckham, as always. I'm here with my boy Phil Felipe Avalo. How are we doing today, bud?
Felipe Arevalo:Doing alright. I got to go up to Mesa and do a presentation in person in front of students, and that's always a, Never thought it, but that's always a treat.
Chase Peckham:It is. That's really funny. That's back to back work days for us that we've actually been in public and met with human beings face to to face.
Felipe Arevalo:Right. It's kind of nice.
Chase Peckham:It really is. It was really fun being out the San Diego Military Family Collaborative annual event, uh, that, that we have as we're a proud supporter and, and member, uh, of this great organization within Say, San Diego, which is a phenomenal nonprofit here in San Diego. And, you know, working with our military families, uh, working with our military, uh, men and women. It's, it's just something that, uh, we enjoy doing. And, um, so much of that has to do with our Boost for our Heroes program, which we have our golf tournament coming up. Uh, we'll be, we'll be out there on the golf course, teeing it up for that program, uh, coming up here pretty quickly.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah, it is golf time here in the, at the SDFLC.
Chase Peckham:Just all of a sudden, just wham, there it is.
Felipe Arevalo:<laugh>. Yeah. But I was up there at Mesa and I was presenting for a new professor, and it was funny. She was telling me like, Here's the parking place and here's how you do it. And it's like, Oh, they may not remember me at the parking office now, but a couple years ago I just had to walk in and kind of wave and they're like, Oh, he's back.
Chase Peckham:Yeah,<laugh>. Yeah. It was almost like they had a standing parking pass for us. It was like they just kept saying exactly, Why don't we just give you a full time one.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.<laugh>. But you know, one of the students mentioned we were going over a budgeting presentation and you know, they mentioned how they had a lot of different streaming services and, you know, it really adds up with the amount of streaming services that you have. And then another student says you pay for the streaming services. Um, I just borrow my parents.
Chase Peckham:Oh,<laugh>. So they don't live toge, like they don't live in their, they
Felipe Arevalo:Don't live at home anymore, but they still know their parents log in, so they could still get into the Netflixes and the, I don't know which ones they have. And it, it was kind of funny because I had to tell the guy, I said, Hey, look, I don't, don't know if you've seen the news, but Netflix is cracking down on this password sharing stuff and your parents might, uh, be changing their password here soon.
Chase Peckham:Well, and I guess they must be late to this, right? I mean, is this big news? Because I don't know how many services that I've had, but I, I know even as far back as years ago when Direct TV had the NFL package, uh, and you could get the Red Zone and you could get, uh, all, all the different games, uh, from all over the country. And my brother-in-law had it forever and he would just send us his login and we would do it, but then it wasn't a half a season we were into that and we got there. There was no,
Felipe Arevalo:It stopped
Chase Peckham:Working. They st Yeah. It didn't work anymore because you couldn't have it in like more than two locations or something like that. Yeah. At the same time.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. Well, Netflix has been very relaxed, very lax with their password sharing. I think they've, they were the first to the streaming game. You know, any, uh, Blockbuster fans left out there can let, can let you know, you know, what Netflix did to them. But, uh, there's actually a funny show, I think, uh, I think on Netflix about Blockbuster that I'm gonna need to watch. But they were kind of the pioneers for it. And, and I think that they were kind of almost embracing the password sharing, but they've had a tough quarter, uh, last quarter with their earnings. They lost subscribers and there's increased competition. So, you know, maybe this is kind of their way of looking to see where can we make up some of this revenue that we're losing elsewhere.
Chase Peckham:Well, That makes sense. I mean, Netflix, what they were the first ones out there right. That did this.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:I mean, they've been way ahead of the curve. Uh, but you've got all these different streaming services and everybody jumping on the bandwagon now where you've got individual networks that have Peacock and CBS app and all their individual streaming with all their shows on it. Then you've got HBO Max and you've got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right? So pretty soon for us to see anything like we did on network television or cable, uh, it it all in one place. You have to order up all these things.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. Well, we've been doing this budgeting stuff for, for a while now, and, and I remember when we first started doing it, uh, suggesting to people like, maybe get rid of your cable and sign up for this awesome thing called Netflix, and you could just kind of watch TV on there. And now it's almost gotten to the point where it's like, why don't you cancel your 12 or 15 subscriptions and go back to cable? Because that might be cheaper at this point because you've signed up for every single subscription available. And, but I think it's like you mentioned, it's, I wanna watch that show, I wanna watch this show. You know, we did the episode on, uh, Schitts Creek a couple seasons ago, and it's not on Netflix anymore. My wife and I are rewatching it again. And I went in there and I was like, Where'd to go? Like, it's gone. And then I realized, oh, oh yes, sometime in October it's switching gears and now it's over on Hulu, another streaming service that we pay for. But, uh, so we had to go over there and try and figure out what season and what episode we're on. But I, I think it's, I think this could be big for people who are sharing that password and, and getting away around it that way. Maybe, uh, I share my Netflix password, you share your Hulu password type of scenario where people weren't paying for all of'em. I don't know exactly how the sharing happens or something like that. Young gentleman today was like, Well, I just use my parents.
Chase Peckham:Yeah. And I would, I would imagine too that there's the, you know, they have family, you know, you can buy different, uh, packages where you have so many, quote unquote, logins are so many different, uh, appliances and or, you know, when I say appliances, I mean a television or, or, and.
Felipe Arevalo:The devices.
Chase Peckham:A device that you're gonna watch it on. Uh, I know that, for instance, my Apple tv, I've got, we can have six different devices at one time or, you know, wherever you are. And it's just at, when I go into a different market, for instance, it'll say, Are you visiting or did you move? Uh, and then it, I'm just, I'm just visiting and it'll say, Hey, enjoy wherever you are. Uh,
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:But when we were at my brother-in-law's, uh, last Christmas, there were a few of those streaming networks that we had that, uh, he, he didn't have. And, and because of that, we, you know, we logged in and we got to watch it. I had no problem at all.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. When we went to Tucson, uh, not that long ago, uh, that was the first time I've tried it. Like one of the boys wanted to watch something on the TV when we were in the hotel room or on the phone, and I went in there on YouTube TV and it was like, Are you traveling? Uh, type in? And you're like, Yeah, I'm, I'm traveling. And, and it, I don't remember the exact terminology or verbiage, but it was like, enjoy your, and then it gave you like a number of hours that you could be traveling, uh, before you considered different market permanently. Uh, but it was kind of cool because device location on your phone is enabled and then it, it just kind of does its own thing. But, um, yeah. I wonder how mu, I wonder what this will do for their subscriptions because I could see some people saying, and, and they are gonna offer the option to add a, like a tag along, like an add-on. So they're already, they already have it in like five or six countries where they're testing out this, you know, cracking down on password sharing. And in those countries they have like a 25%, uh, cost add-on. So it might be like$5 to add another login or another user, uh, to your plan if you still wanted to share your password.
Chase Peckham:Well, I mean, if I were, if I owned Netflix or if I owned a business like that, I wouldn't want people to share what they have. Um, you know,
Felipe Arevalo:I want someone, I want the other person to Sign up.
Chase Peckham:I That's right. If you want my product, you sign up.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:Uh, and I get it from a consumer standpoint that we think, Oh, this is great, we'll just log, log in. But I mean, I I totally get that. Um, and if, especially if it knows that, and, and they do, they can track these, they know that one person's watching in San Diego and one person's watching in, uh, North Carolina.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:Well then that makes sense. Of course you're sharing it. Um, especially if they're going on around the same time or at the same time. But, uh, otherwise, uh,
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah, like watching the same thing, but across the country.
Chase Peckham:Right. Well,<laugh>, Right? I mean, if you're watch, you know, you're No, I mean, but you could both be watching Netflix and be watching different one watching a movie, one watching a series. I mean, who, who knows what they're doing?
Felipe Arevalo:Here's what I wonder.
Chase Peckham:But that, that's not right.
Felipe Arevalo:No, I agree. But here's what I wonder if, you know, we have the two account whatever plan, because my kids sometimes will get on whatever they're watching and they may be binge watching Netflix. And I don't want that to mean that I can't watch what I wanna watch on Netflix if I so choose to. So I wonder how that's gonna work with, like, if I'm, you know, Downs if the kids are downstairs watching, you know, whatever they watch on Netflix and I pick up my phone and go, Oh, I heard this great documentary. I'm gonna watch this. Is it gonna ding us then because it's still the same household. I'm not paying add-on so my kids can watch it. I'll cancel the thing.
Chase Peckham:No. Right. I'll find something else to watch. Exactly. Yeah. I mean our kid,
Felipe Arevalo:So I wonder how that's gonna work.
Chase Peckham:Yeah. I don't know how how that would work, but I mean, financially it does make sense that they, that they would do something like this. Um, I know. And if people are about it, that's too bad. I mean, they have a product, they invest money in this product, they should be getting the revenues from people that are using it,
Felipe Arevalo:Right? Well, they have, Do you have Spotify?
Chase Peckham:I do.
Felipe Arevalo:Premium?
Chase Peckham:Yeah.
Felipe Arevalo:Do And you have the family plan would imagine.
Chase Peckham:I do.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah.
Chase Peckham:Yeah.
Felipe Arevalo:So I like that one. But for the, for a little while there, I signed up for it. And you know how it asks you to put in your address?
Chase Peckham:Mm-hmm.<affirmative>,
Felipe Arevalo:we were living at the apartment when I first signed up for it. And I typed something just wrong on the address, I put the comma in the wrong place, or I abbreviated apartment wrong or something like that. And then when I send out the link to Sarah for her to sign up, she couldn't get in because she couldn't match the address<laugh> and it was a pain.
Chase Peckham:Oh.
Felipe Arevalo:To get, get her to, And I was like, we're in the same household, but because I typed something in wrong when I did the address,
Chase Peckham:Uh, when you did the address you're talking about when you signed up?
Felipe Arevalo:When I first signed up, Yeah.
Chase Peckham:Oh.
Felipe Arevalo:And then, so we were,
Chase Peckham:And you don't know where you made the mistake, you had to go in and find it
Felipe Arevalo:I don't know what mistake I made. Exactly. And it was such a pain to go in there and find it and to update your address. I, and then I think I was like going online how to do it. And I think a lot of people complained. Spotify simplified it a little more, but then when we moved here, it allowed me to change my address to here. And this time I paid very close attention to how I was doing it and copy pasted it and sent that with a link to Sarah, uh, so that she can now get into Spotify family plan or whatever. But sometimes it's worth it still, even with the increased cost. Like people always ask, What subscription would you not get rid of? Well, let me ask you, what subscription of all the streaming services, which would be the last one you get rid of?
Chase Peckham:Wow.
Felipe Arevalo:So not including like your cable streaming YouTube TV?
Chase Peckham:Yeah. You mean like the regular tv? You mean like live television?
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. Not including those ones, but which one of the streaming services like hbo, Apple, Netflix, Hulu,
Chase Peckham:I, I think probably HBO Max. Uh, I, I like those shows an awful lot. Um, but even then, and you know what else I like, what
Felipe Arevalo:Could you watch just that though? Do they have enough content?
Chase Peckham:Oh my gosh. Do they have enough content? Yeah, they are. But
Felipe Arevalo:See haven't signed up for it because I have a tendency not to cancel things so.
Chase Peckham:That's true. It's funny. I did, I went through and canceled a bunch, uh, that I just realized we weren't using too much. But the, the great things about these streaming services is a lot of them, you don't have a, a contract for a certain amount of time. You can,
Felipe Arevalo:You just turn it off for a month
Chase Peckham:And if there's a show that I hear about that I wanna watch, it's worth it to me to, to try it for a month.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:And see if I wanted to watch that show. We did that with Apple Plus, uh, when, uh, the Morning Show came out, Carrie really wanted to watch that show. So we did that. And then when the morning show was over, we canceled it. Uh, and, and there's a few things that we've done that before, but you're right, we've just kept Netflix for whatever reason. I just.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:Keep it. My kids watch it like crazy. Uh, but they watch the HBO Max now more because they got the rights to friends. And my kids love friends where friends used to be on Netflix.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:Hulu's becoming stronger in that range. Uh, they,
Felipe Arevalo:They took Shitts Creek from Netflix,
Chase Peckham:They got poor. Netflix is getting just
Felipe Arevalo:This could be why they're really checking their passwords.
Chase Peckham:Right. And and they're getting Yeah. Right. They're, they're losing a lot of their really good programming that they had that that made
Felipe Arevalo:The office is gone. That was a few years ago. And those are like heavy duties.
Chase Peckham:Well you gotta know too, that the things like the PB Peacock, which is NBC Universal and cbs, and they're, they're gonna start to take back their own program.
Felipe Arevalo:They want their stuff.
Chase Peckham:They want their shows. Yeah. So that, that, you know, it must have been, I would've, I gotta know what HBO Max paid for friends for Peacock not to say, Hey, we want that back.
Felipe Arevalo:Well, unless the contract ended Oh, and then they went into like a bidding,
Chase Peckham:Correct. Bidding war scenario. Right. Yeah. I mean, Peacock said we're gonna make more than we would if we sign up people on our own app. I mean.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:That's an interesting thought. Right.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. So I think the streaming services, for me it's that Disney plus bundle and just because I have kids,
Chase Peckham:But you have really young kids. Yeah. I watch Disney plus more than my kids do.
Felipe Arevalo:But the cool thing with the Disney plus one that, that draws me in is it includes the ESPN plus, which then in Includes things like the San Diego Loyal games that I can watch on there where I won't be able to watch them unless I have the app.
Chase Peckham:Right.
Felipe Arevalo:And it includes La Liga which is the Spanish soccer league, which includes my favorite team Barcelona. The only way I can watch them is through the ESPN app. So
Chase Peckham:What time do you have to wake up in the morning to watch them?
Felipe Arevalo:The Spain league's not that bad. It's the EPL, the English Premier League that does that crack of dawn type games.
Chase Peckham:Wow.
Felipe Arevalo:Uh, so the Barcelona games I could usually watch mid-morning. Um, Okay. Seven to 11 is usually around the time the game start. If you wanna watch some of the, your, the, um, cuz they play their games at night in Spain, whereas in England they play their games in the morning or in the day, which then translates to four in the morning San Diego time. Really? Uh oh yeah. I've woken up to Is
Chase Peckham:That because a lot of the venues don't have lights or something?
Felipe Arevalo:No, I think they make, um, I think they just have'em more spread out throughout the day. So you might get oh, three or four games and then, you know, three or four different time slots. So you gotta start early so you can get that.
Chase Peckham:Don't people Work? I mean, how do they get them, like when they go in at,
Felipe Arevalo:Well, they play on the weekends one
Chase Peckham:One o'clock. Okay. Only on the weekends?
Felipe Arevalo:So for, for the most part, they're special like towards the end of the season where they may do makeup games or they may have a midweek game, but those they play later on. Uh, not in the, those they would play at Nighttime, England. Um, but you know, Yeah.<laugh>, when I used to watch a lot more soccer before being married, before kids, I would sometimes wake up and go with my buddies to watch some of these, the really big games at 4:00 AM in the morning, um, there's a, uh, pub here in San Diego called Shakespeares.
Chase Peckham:mm-hmm.<affirmative>, I know right where that is?
Felipe Arevalo:It's awesome. But they open up at 4:00 AM if there's a big enough soccer match and you can can go in to
Chase Peckham:It's in Mission Hills.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah.
Chase Peckham:On on, yeah. On India Street there, on the corner on.
Felipe Arevalo:India Street. Yeah.
Chase Peckham:Mm-hmm.<affirmative>.
Felipe Arevalo:and, and great soccer venue and you
Chase Peckham:Great pub period.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. And their food's good too.
Chase Peckham:Yeah.
Felipe Arevalo:So you go in there for,
Chase Peckham:You want Shepherds Pie baby?
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. They don't sell, I think they put coffee that early in the morning, like the kitchen's not open or anything, but they'll do coffee or tea.
Chase Peckham:and beer.
Felipe Arevalo:or, or water? No, not that early.
Chase Peckham:At four. Oh, what's it four in the morning?
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah, four in the morning.
Chase Peckham:Okay. You're right, they can't until 6:00 AM
Felipe Arevalo:They, Yeah. So they spread out the supporters, they'll put one team on one side of the room, the other team on the other side of the room and they get into yelling matches. Great fun. Um, and then at 6:00 AM they open up the kitchen and open up their menu more. Um, if you're gonna stick around for like a second game.
Chase Peckham:Good, god. That is a long day.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah. I don't do that anymore. Um, you get home at six and you're like, I watched the whole soccer game already.
Chase Peckham:That is, they're a lot of these are doing these bundles now, but I mean a lot of these companies are losing their tail on their apps and on these streaming services. It's just, it's so watered down that they're, you know, but they have to, to be relevant cuz they're not gonna get lost in the shuffle and they're just hoping that they can hold on long enough to get the right programming, to get the right people to sign up and do it. But we, most people can't afford 4.99, 8.99, 12.99 and pretty soon you're paying more than you did just for the Direct tv, HBO and all that stuff yet.
Felipe Arevalo:Right. And then you do a little add-ons and you do the Yeah, I think, I think the other, it can be budget friendly though. If you play'em right and if you maybe like you said, turn one off, turn it back,
Chase Peckham:You have to be all over. You
Felipe Arevalo:Binge watching.
Chase Peckham:Yes.
Felipe Arevalo:Just one.
Chase Peckham:Correct. Well, but a lot of these streaming services, a lot of these streaming services too though, now when it comes to these, uh, shows, they'll drop on a Sunday evening and then you don't get to see it again for a week. Right.
Felipe Arevalo:Yeah.
Chase Peckham:I mean, they don't drop the whole show at one time. They're not dumb
Felipe Arevalo:Sneaky. I know.
Chase Peckham:Yeah.
Felipe Arevalo:And if you wait, you might get a spoiler and then, and then you're.
Chase Peckham:Right, I usually wait because I do, I have found like to binge, I I, if I can watch two hours or watch four episodes in two hours I'm in, it's like watching a small little movie. But if I'm watching a half an hour and then there's a cliffhanger every time I'm like, Oh,
Felipe Arevalo:And you gotta wait a week and then you gotta remember to come back and now you like back to how TV used to be when you're like, Oh, I can't wait for that show to come out on Friday or Thursday night.
Chase Peckham:But kids and I were talking about Ted Lassos gotta come back out soon. We're hoping it's gonna be November, but who knows
Felipe Arevalo:The, I may have to get on the Apple TV and just binge watch all this.
Chase Peckham:Have you never seen Ted Lasso?
Felipe Arevalo:I've never watched Ted.
Chase Peckham:Dude know, dude what?
Felipe Arevalo:I don't know An Apple,
Chase Peckham:You're a soccer guy.
Felipe Arevalo:Well, I have an iPad, but I don't wanna watch it on my iPad and my iPad doesn't connect nicely to my Google tv.
Chase Peckham:You you got the wrong stuff, man.<laugh>, you can't get Apple Plus on on your Google tv.
Felipe Arevalo:Uh, I don't know. I have to check.
Chase Peckham:Of course you can.
Felipe Arevalo:No, it, it wasn't one of the app choices. Well I have the Google Chromecast. Um, so I don't know that my, how I'm,
Chase Peckham:This has been a big giant argument between my brother-in-law and who was Mr. Apple guy and then he went and got the Google phone or the, you know, because the cameras are so much better or worse, so much better. And, but it drove me crazy that every time we were in a big old chat and he, we would, it would go green, right? And if it's blue, that means they're all Apple products. If it's green, that means that there's an Android or something.
Felipe Arevalo:You got one.
Chase Peckham:But it screws up everything. So like if he sends video or we send video, the one Google or the Android phone completely punctuates the video. It looks all grainy and terrible. If you send it where it's all Apple products, then it goes through beautifully. It's hd. But it was this miraculous day on Saturday. I
Felipe Arevalo:Oh, you switched?
Chase Peckham:I he switched.
Felipe Arevalo:Converted him.
Chase Peckham:Everything was blue and I had to double check and I went, Hey, wait A minute,
Felipe Arevalo:Did I add you,
Chase Peckham:You're on here? He goes, Yes, I have happy news for everybody cuz it was something we would leave him off. We would finally just, there we have this big long chain and we would go in and we'd updates of kids or dogs or games or whatever it was.
Felipe Arevalo:Right.
Chase Peckham:And we would just take him off because you couldn't see the video and the pictures didn't look as good. So he was all excited now that he gets to see it. Although he, he fought it for a long time, but he has the new, the brand new iPhone and he is pretty happy with
Felipe Arevalo:It. You know, it's funny, when I go into group chats, my complaint is the opposite. When you get all the little Soandso liked and then it copies the text and it's like, I don't care if I don't wanna notification.
:Yes. That every iPhone user.
Chase Peckham:Correct.
Felipe Arevalo:Here likes the thing. I'm just gonna assume if you liked it, you can reply or don't reply, I don't care. But now you're getting like, especially if you're in a big group chat like five or six in
Chase Peckham:A row,
Felipe Arevalo:like.
Chase Peckham:Yep. And it'll, and it'll show the whole thing
Felipe Arevalo:And the whole text again saying so and so liked and it's like,
Chase Peckham:Well you're missing out. Ted Lasso is pretty awesome. The morning show was a really good show. Apple Plus has got some legit stuff out there.
Felipe Arevalo:Uh, well they do have the great pumpkin, a lot of the Snoopy stuff that Sarah wanted to watch. So the only thing I think of is if, if I plug in my laptop through an HDMI cable to the television, I
Chase Peckham:Think you're thinking too hard. I think Google, it's gotta be in there.
Felipe Arevalo:Well, I can't get it on my phone. I just checked right now.
Chase Peckham:Really?
Felipe Arevalo:And I watched TV from my phone. Yeah. It wants me
Chase Peckham:Why did you get Google tv? Is that because your an your da your wife has got an Apple phone?
Felipe Arevalo:No
Chase Peckham:She doesn't.
Felipe Arevalo:No. We only have an iPad.
Chase Peckham:Didn't she originally?
Felipe Arevalo:She had one a while ago.
Chase Peckham:So you made her change. It's your fault.
Felipe Arevalo:No she change before me. She changed before me. She went Blackberry, iPhone. Oh good G od. And then.
Chase Peckham:Blackberry,
Felipe Arevalo:she switched<laugh>. Was.
Chase Peckham:Is that still around?
Felipe Arevalo:And then she switched. Uh, no, I think it, I think they just went away. It's still around as a company. I think they do other stuff, but I don't, they don't have mobile devices.
Chase Peckham:<laugh>, mobile wars are are funny<laugh>. But look, I, I think I love the streaming. I love the ability to go watch stuff when we want. I mean, if that would've been something when I was a kid, good luck with me doing anything else. Activity. Oh my gosh. Yes. And it has, and in fact all this stuff, all that's streaming, all of video games, all those things, uh, my friends and I were talking just the other day that we have kids the same age and we're gonna start making rules, uh, with our kids and just the amount of time they get on these things because it's, I mean, remember when we were kids, my bombing used to go, Ah, that's
Speaker 4:Enough tv. No more tv.
Speaker 3:Very bad for you. It's no different. But these kids right, can walk around with it everywhere. Right. And watch shows everywhere they go. And it's just, it's something that we, we've gotta achieve. They're just, they're not, the kids are, they become jerks. They become an little people and they're so much nicer when they actually are away from the phone and they, and they're just having a discussion with you, uh, having a conversation, interacting, human interaction, really important. Uh, but at the same time, I do love the entertainment. I do like the fact that I can, I don't have a TV in my room. Uh, Carrie and I decided a long time ago we weren't gonna do that and never have had one in our room, but yet we would watch things on our computer in our room every once in a while or, but most of the time we go home and go to bed. Yeah. But even then, you know, now you know, I'm fighting the kids with when it's just me getting them to not, you know, Clay's for a person who, um, he doesn't even have the patience from a movie, like an hour and a half to him is just way too long.
Speaker 4:Too long of a timeframe.
Speaker 3:Yeah. It's like I can't, I don't, I don't have that much time to get, but he'll sit and play that video game for hours. So we're, we're just, we're changing all the meth methodology around. We're not letting him do that anymore. And they're gonna fight tooth and nail and I'm in for a long one, but, Oh, well it's too many studies that say that the kids are just getting screwed up.
Speaker 4:I think I I think you're, you're right though. I think you're onto something. See, if you get an Android phone, you can limit how much time they can spend on all these different apps. Um, I don't know. You can do that. Pretend to, You
Speaker 3:Can do that on the Apple too or big fella. I haven't done it yet and I don't know how to do it, but I, like, I, one of my buddies has something on his phone. Like they, if if they're not doing what he wants, he just shuts their wifi off their phones. Oh yeah. So they can't do anything and they
Speaker 4:Should, he can't do anything. Yep.<laugh>.
Speaker 3:So, and
Speaker 4:Then I have Barr, the data
Speaker 3:Doesn't work or whatever, he just shuts it down.
Speaker 4:Kendall. Unlimited, unlimited timeframe. You wanna read, Read Away as long as you Yeah. All the other stuff. I can just kinda limit the, the time Right. Spent on there. You know what streaming service I do like, and I think it's budget friendly. Um, Spotify, because if you think about about if
Speaker 3:You music and
Speaker 4:Were to buy CDs and now you have multiple people liking different music, buying CDs like you probably don't like, might not like the same music as your kids do. Oh, definitely. They're trying to buy music. Maybe some overlap. Yeah,
Speaker 3:There's some overlap.
Speaker 4:But, but then there's, you know, I don't have that much overlap. Like, Sarah listens to different stuff than I listen to and I'm getting the kids hooked on the country. So I'm,
Speaker 3:I'm, my daughter loves it. My son likes it too. But he's,
Speaker 4:It's cheaper than buying CDs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is. I I feel bad for the artists that they don't get paid for their music and their art nearly as much as they used to. That's, that's rougher
Speaker 4:To make the that's why those concerts, that's why you gotta go to the concerts
Speaker 3:Too. They used to be, they would have the concerts the other way around to support their album. Now it's the concert's, what they make the money on. Right. So anyway, crazy thing, I, I honestly, I think look, we should pay for the content. They're creating it, they're putting the money into it. I don't think we should be able to share it with five people within, you know, maybe our family. I get it. You get a family plan, whatever. Um, but it, it shouldn't be that, you know, you can just share your password and anybody can watch it. I just, I, I just, I I believe in, in industry and I believe in capitalism and companies too much, uh, to do that. That's just me though. Most other people are gonna go, You're crazy man. Pass that, pass that along and pass that password Tweeted way. Tweet away the password.<laugh>. That's right.<laugh>. Well, if I you off, please just let me know that you didn't like this episode. No, I, we really like five star ratings. We do like, uh, on, on uh, iTunes and uh, stay with us next week. We'll talk to you again.
Speaker 4:I'll go ahead and send you some Netflix recommendations. Thanks
Speaker 3:Very much. Ah,