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And"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1818.33,"endTime":1821.69,"body":"but thank you so much for your"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1821.72,"endTime":1824.99,"body":"time today doing this podcast."},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1821.72,"endTime":1824.99,"body":"And there's some really, really"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1824.99,"endTime":1829.01,"body":"valuable stuff thank you to"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1824.99,"endTime":1829.01,"body":"about. And I'm sure there's"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1829.04,"endTime":1831.95,"body":"there's lots there to really"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1829.04,"endTime":1831.95,"body":"benefit teachers and certainly"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1831.95,"endTime":1835.19,"body":"thinking about how they might go"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1831.95,"endTime":1835.19,"body":"about setting up some really"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1835.19,"endTime":1839.63,"body":"exciting networks, as you've"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1835.19,"endTime":1839.63,"body":"done within your trust. So thank"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1839.63,"endTime":1842.51,"body":"you for joining GD, thanks for"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1839.63,"endTime":1842.51,"body":"your time today."},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1845.93,"endTime":1849.02,"body":"Thank you, I will,"},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1845.93,"endTime":1849.02,"body":"I will put in well, I will pass"},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1849.02,"endTime":1851.66,"body":"on to you. So you can put in the"},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1849.02,"endTime":1851.66,"body":"show notes, all the resources"},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1851.66,"endTime":1855.92,"body":"and links. There are quite a"},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1851.66,"endTime":1855.92,"body":"few. So hopefully there'll be"},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1855.92,"endTime":1857.39,"body":"useful to somebody who's"},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1855.92,"endTime":1857.39,"body":"listening."},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1857.9,"endTime":1859.7,"body":"Yeah, we'll make"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1857.9,"endTime":1859.7,"body":"sure those go in. There's lots"},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1859.7,"endTime":1866.57,"body":"of really, really good stuff."},{"speaker":"Liam Anderson","startTime":1859.7,"endTime":1866.57,"body":"Thanks, Trudy. Thanks, guys."},{"speaker":"Trudi Barrow","startTime":1869.06,"endTime":1870.11,"body":"Bye"}]}