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You"},{"startTime":413.73,"endTime":418.47,"body":"can find me via my website, Dr."},{"startTime":413.73,"endTime":418.47,"body":"Alison hardy.com. or on Twitter"},{"startTime":418.71,"endTime":421.89,"body":"at Hardy underscore, Alison"},{"startTime":418.71,"endTime":421.89,"body":"Thanks for listening"}]}