The Canna Kuyas EP56- Summertime Secrets of the Canna Kuya

Erick and Mitch are back in the Buddha lounge talking about the vegetation stage of the cannabis plant.  Erick talks lighting cycles and growing techniques for the best results for your home grow.

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:27

You're listening to the Canakria podcast, where we are cultivating conversations concerning cannabis culture and creativity. I'm one of your hosts. I'm Mitch Narito.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

And I am Eric Esteman. What's up, y'all? Welcome back. We are back. I know it's been a minute because, you know, we just life is busy. Life. But also, we're all potheads here. It's not like we're on a schedule.

SPEAKER_07 0:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

I mean, other than the watering schedule that I've been on. This vegging. Because I've been, you know, I try to not overwater. That's like a thing now with me. And I've I've mastered the art of hand watering.

SPEAKER_05 1:01

I'm bad at watering. Even my regular plants. Like, that's why like succulents, I just let them, just let them go. Like. And then I water water. You're lazy, sir. I'm not lazy. It's just like I'm bad at gauging.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

I'm way, I'm I'm so hesitant, but one day I will tattoo my thumb green. Because I am Dr. Green Thumb. I love no, I I straight up, like you even when you since you've been to the backyard, you haven't been to the backyard in the summertime yet. You walked in, you're like, holy shit, it's so green out there. You're like a you're like in an enchanted garden now in my life. It's very verdant. It's very nice. I love it. Even my wife, she's sitting out there now, she's enjoying the garden. Everybody's picking look at all the tomatoes. Have some plum tomatoes. Look at those tomatoes. It's not just weed out here, baby. I'm growing everything. Dr. Green Thumb. That's me. That's good. Yeah, no, I'm I I am gardening has been my what's the word? Respite? Is that a good word?

SPEAKER_05 2:01

Yeah, you can use respite.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Yeah. For everything. Like I've I've found peace in gardening with everything. And like the stress that I had, the stress that I had earlier in the the last episode about the seeds popping. I'm pretty sure we talked about that.

SPEAKER_05 2:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

And how I didn't think that the limes were all gonna pop, and then all six limes pop. The whole tent. Yeah. 100%. And now they're they've been vegging for a month and they're looking great. Because there's I've been watching a lot and listening to a lot of other cannabis podcasts and a lot of other cannabis podcasts that talk about growing, and they're doing these other method methods where they start the seedlings out at 1212 versus the longer light cycle where you're vegging it out for a little while and then you flip it over to flower cycle. 10 four 1014. 18-6. 18-6 for the veg cycle for me. Some people do 17-5, some you know, it it varies among everybody, but for me, the standard has basically been 18-6 since I started growing is veg is your veg cycle and your autoflowers. You can grow your auto flowers at 18-6 too.

SPEAKER_05 3:18

So you've been seeing a lot of stuff 12-12, 12 hours as well.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Well they'll start the seedlings where they'll start it at the light cycle of 12-12 and they automatically go to flowering. And I don't I I don't have enough because I g I guess the the process the way they do it is they'll have small one-gallon plants stacked next to each other, and then each of the smaller plants ends up yielding more than having a one one bigger plant in a large pot.

SPEAKER_05 3:51

It's still the same amount of time though.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

I I feel like it's still uh to a degree, because it'll it'll still it still needs to veg, okay. Even you know, seedling from seedling for sure, and then also just in general, it's still gotta veg and grow a little bit, and then obviously during the flowering process, it will grow even more and get even taller than what it would be.

SPEAKER_05 4:15

So with this with this other process you're talking about, like they don't get as tall, but they still yield a good amount?

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Well, I that's that's the theory behind behind the growing process. Because you're growing multiple plants. You're growing if you're growing instead of maybe four to six, you know, seven gallon pots, you've got like twenty one-gallon pots in there.

SPEAKER_05 4:39

Doesn't that become problematic if you're only supposed to add like six plants?

SPEAKER_01 4:43

That that becomes problematic, but it also becomes problematic in the fact that one gallon pots have to be watered every day. And especially in a hot place like the Buddha Lounge where it's like a greenhouse, I'd be high I'd have to water those one-gallon pots every day, and that would be very once a day, multiple times a day, or sometimes I would think even on some hotter days it would be multiple times a day, which would be a pain in the ass. And I don't have a watering system, I don't really I like I said, I enjoy hand watering. But we opened up with the episode, hand watering and how much I enjoy just being part of the plants, and like there's a saying that I think I can't remember where it's from, but the best fertilizer for your garden is the the gardener's shadow. And when you are you making this up? No, no, no. It's it's it it's something that I heard on another gardening podcast, but it's I I feel like it's true. I feel like it's true because the the times where you you every morning when I walk through the garden, you know, you see something, whether it's a a tomato that's ripe or it's oh there's a bug or there's bugs, or you know, you never know. There's some there's always something in the garden, especially if you're growing outside. It's it there's always something changing, it's a constantly changing environment. So you're always having to check in with your plants.

SPEAKER_05 6:01

Do you talk to your plants? Because I've I like I remember hearing and seeing like experiments where people um uh interact with plants either like positively or negatively, and it affects their growth.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

I don't necessarily well I've talked to the plants. Yeah, to I've talked to them in certain instances, but I don't talk to them on a regular basis.

SPEAKER_05 6:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

But usually it usually it's more when I've planted seeds and I'm like, come on, little seedling. I need you to pop out right now. Like I I I'll I'll say some stuff like that. But other than that, like once it starts growing, like I might be like, ooh, girl, you're looking good. Like stuff like that. Other than that, I won't be, I won't really, there's no dialogue with the plants when I'm talking to them.

SPEAKER_05 6:47

Like it's like have you heard about that before?

SPEAKER_01 6:49

Oh, yeah, for sure. I've also heard about playing classical music is all also helps them grow, and like playing music in general is something that the plants, uh the energy of the music and even the vibration of the bass is is something that the plants in the same way that the plants um when they move with the fans and the and the air movement in the in the in the tent, it like the the vibration of the music is something that allows them to kind of they they're they're they're absorbing it, you know, they're absorbing the sound.

SPEAKER_07 7:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Um there's there's a lot of things. And I mean, and why why not? Of course. I mean, of course I they're they're uh plants are to me what what connects us to the earth what and our relationship with plants because if without plants we're we're dead, right? Without pollinated fruit and vegetables, we're we we don't really have uh much to eat as human beings. Yeah, the food chain depends on the food the food chain is dependent on all of that stuff, right? And and so being more connected with that, whether it's cannabis or whether it's anything, it it it's it it helps. Especially through this crazy world and this crazy time nowadays. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 8:07

Nah, and then I have been seeing a lot of stuff like um like one of the things that I've been getting um into, like I just went down like a rabbit hole. Like I've been watching like these videos of like um like Filipinos and Philippines making Filipino dishes with like um like local ingredients over there, and then versus like what you'll buy at like your regular store and stuff, right? Like like for example, like garlic, right? Like Filipinos love their garlic, right? And if you buy a garlic, uh if you buy like a clove of garlic here, it's like it's it's pretty big, right? Like it's enhanced, right? Like you have all these other things that make it grow super big. But then like natural Filipino garlic is actually really small. It's not right, but it's it's it's more flavorable. It's more potent. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Because the the genetics that they use to make it big here, and the you know, whatever they they do to pump it up and make it more um aesthetically pleasing, because that's really what it boils down to. Yeah, you know, it's like it they want you know big big bulbs of garlic on the grocery shelves that people want to grab and buy.

SPEAKER_05 9:15

Because it makes it feel makes it feel better about a purchase.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Correct. It's just it all of it, even like apples and tomatoes and all the things, like they only the stuff that we even the the the wasted fruit that's not aesthetically pleasing, man, it could probably in America it could feed all the homeless people that there are they're saying they waste so much there's so much food waste because of aesthetics and all the things, like there's like secondary and and and like tertiary markets, like where um like you know, like HelloFresh or any of like those food delivery things, right?

SPEAKER_05 9:51

There are versions of that that I've seen where it's uh like the the the produce, it's not pretty to look at, right? But what does that matter if you're gonna cut it up anywhere?

SPEAKER_01 10:01

And eat it. Yeah. Yeah, or you're gonna bite into it and chew it. It's just the same. It's gonna you're gonna and especially probably those the ugly fruits, they probably taste good.

SPEAKER_05 10:10

Yeah, so there's like there's like services that like they'll buy all of this produce that's not wanted, right, from people, and then they'll they'll still they'll still sell it. It's it's cheaper for one, it tastes the same, so like it's but it's better quality.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

But it's that that I hope and and pray for those secondary markets in all things because there's so much waste in our society when it comes to a lot of things. So, I mean, we've we've kind of deviated from from cannabis a little bit, but at the same time, it is part of why I grow my own cannabis, is that the cannabis industry and all the things that they've now kind of done to this plant to make it cost effective or whatever else, or spraying them with turf. Whatever, whatever the things they do to to make things more sellable have to me taken away from the the plant and this and and no the culture definitely has changed.

SPEAKER_05 11:05

Because like, you know, we've talked about it on this podcast. Guys, go back and listen to some previous podcasts that we've had.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Uh because we are the number two Filipino American podcast in the world.

SPEAKER_05 11:16

In the world?

SPEAKER_01 11:17

I don't know. I decided to like it's I guess it's kind of in the world, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 11:21

Well, it that's like I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

I I uh whatever that that service is that sent us that thing. But anyway.

SPEAKER_05 11:28

Yeah, like I I just want to know where they got their data. Anyways, uh but no, but like in in terms of in terms of the culture, right? Like we've already seen how dispensaries are now, right? Like we've talked about how back in the day, right, like dispensaries or or picking up from a plug, right? Like was completely different. Um and things are changing now, because uh what just happened? Uh so it is when I say it's cannabis, marijuana is gonna be rescheduled, isn't it? Is that confirmed? Yeah. So it's it's no longer gonna be a class one substance which was on the same level as like heroin.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

And so heroin and cocaine and all the other harder drugs. So now it's moving down to three. Which means that it can be uh researched and studied and for medical purposes. And also uh a lot of the cannabis industry can now uh be afforded banking services and different things because that's that that was one of the bigger parts of uh the rescheduling was the uh the idea that Schedule One drugs aren't able you're not able to sell those legally federally and then have a you know, you can't even that's that's why it was so hard. You always had to pay all the extra ATM fees if you wanted to use your ATM card to buy at a dispensary, even now. And also um you couldn't use if you used your credit card again, the same thing, you'd have the crazy, crazy fees because of the intermediaries they would need to hire in order to get that money eventually because they couldn't have a an actual bank that said they were selling cannabis.

SPEAKER_05 13:10

No, but this speaks towards like the you know the problems in our system that um you know like people of color, like black like black and brown people have experienced, like this doesn't mean like their convictions if you had like marijuana like related um there's still a lot of people in jail serving time for cannabis. It's not gonna get cleared, but what this means is like moving forward, and this is because like you know, more more white people are getting involved. It just means like like businesses will be able to like ask for loans and like you know, dispensaries can be.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

And when we and when we I mean and and the thing about it is it's not even just white people really. It at the end of the day, it's rich people. It sucks because rich people kind of ruin it for everyone because they throw their money around and you know they think they they're never wrong. You know, look at look at look at the in the case of our our first trillionaire, Mr. Elon Musk. You know, he's never wrong. He's he he and if he's not and if and if he's proven wrong, he buys the thing to to to make it so he can I I I was reading something that I'll never forgive that fool for Twitter. Oh my god, I hate that.

SPEAKER_05 14:20

Yeah, no, like Twitter that's where I found my people, you know, like I understand. No, they did they just suspended my account. I couldn't even get it back. Like I couldn't even like appeal for it, like it just disappeared. Like it they just erased me from Twitter or X at that point.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

So I was just like, uh You know, like and and I deleted my shit, but as soon as he bought it, like the day after he bought it, I deleted Twitter. Yeah. Because I just but that's not but that's part of what I think has been happening with the cannabis industry. I think it's what it's happening with a lot of things here in in America. So part of it is buying everything up, but part of it is you know, it's also everything's going local, and people are you know caring about who their mayor is and and who their local city council people are and all the different things because they want to make sure that they can have the things like here in Burbank, you can you get there's 17 gun stores, but not one cannabis store, you know, and the the different things that we're now thinking about because at the end of the day, in a in a climate and a government and a and a and a country like this as it is in the state it's in right now, you have to be what's right in front of me. What what can I do right in front of me that I can either help or help to put progress towards the situation, right? And and you because you can't do anything, you can't affect anything in Washington, DC, and you can't affect anything in in the other states. Like I can't affect anything that's going on in Chicago, even though I would love to be at the you know the Barack Obama Presidential Library opening. Oh my gosh, that was that that felt like a 250 American celebration, more than uh whatever that UFC mess was. Uh that was that's a travesty. But what what we had uh that this this that guy gets no time on this podcast. Um but like all of that growing your own cannabis is is so empowering to me because like I'm at a point now where I don't give any money to the cannabis industry, except for to the seed companies, yeah, which I will continue to do.

SPEAKER_05 16:33

I think that that's uh that's something that is noticeable. Like I think I have I have a lot of hope for um the future because like I feel that um Gen Z is actually on top of a lot of things, or they're finally voicing their their um their displeasure at a lot of things. Like so they're they're trying to bring things back to how it was back in the day, but without all the stigma and without all the all the problems that it had back in the day, right? So like like you said, like growing, like if you're growing, you know, like even in the 90s, right? Let's say you're growing in the 90s, if you got caught with plants, you'd get locked up. Like you're or like it would be a very, very serious offense.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

That was the only reason I didn't start growing in the nineties.

SPEAKER_05 17:19

Yeah. But now, like, um this new generation, they're they're they've lived through the the nonsense that is a dispensary.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Well, but but also I think they've also lived the the tr the prop 215 days of where in a lot of cases the people who grew their own in their closets in the 90s really grew that fire. And they learned how to really like the the the the potency of cannabis from the 90s to the two to the 2000s, the jump was was was pretty pretty crazy. You do you think that's like a a real thing, or do you think that's more of a market like sometimes I know that's that was a real thing in as far as there were breakthroughs in the way that people grew cannabis, even indoors, and the way even the flowering process, even the way that there were innovations and and everybody was learning from everybody, even during that time when everybody was still gorilla, people were still learning from each other, and everybody was learning from everybody. And you know, those those guys out in uh in in Humboldt and those guys growing those huge trees, they weren't growing those huge trees just in the 2000s. Into the 60s, 50s, and 30s and 40s, everybody that because this has been going since the 40s. Yeah, so you think the 30s and 40s. It's just the the access to knowledge now, like yeah, it's just well and also genetics and and and and the way that the way that the the the people who grew the OGs, right? And uh, because we're gonna we're we're leading into what I kind of want to talk about, because when you can grow, you can grow those old you can search for those old strains, like like we're talking about. Like like for instance, there was the fabled lambs bread that was supposedly Bob Marley's favorite strain of weed. And everybody in the in in the turl early 2000s, if you had some lambs bread and you tried it, it was probably one of the best weeds you ever smoked. And I have been searching and searching for lambs bread my whole life. Because I smoked it maybe once or twice in 2003 and 4, and never it changed my life. It was one of those things that made me fall in love with weed, with how good that weed was. And now fast forward what 30 years, now you're at I'm I I just ordered from the Humboldt Seed Company.

SPEAKER_05 20:00

You're a lamb's bread.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

Well, it's not technically fully lamb's bread, but it's it's a lamb's bread. Gosh, I need glasses.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

You need glasses so bad. Don Carlos.

SPEAKER_01 20:15

Damn. I can't read that for anything. Read that for me.

SPEAKER_05 20:19

Oh my goodness. It says SDO number nine. What is that? What's SDO? I don't know. Okay, so it's that.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

So I'm probably sour diesel number nine.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

Okay. Uh Don Carlos and Lambsbread. Like, uh, but then the circle for SDO number nine is bigger, so that's like the dominant strain.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

That's the dominant strain. That's a that's probably the the strain that they were able to interesting. But but either way, I am chasing that weed that I'd smoked that made me fall in love with weed. It's awesome to be able to do that. Like, and and who knows? If what what I don't know what's gonna come of this, yeah, yeah. These are brand new seeds. No, but that's it's just interesting.

SPEAKER_05 21:00

It's interesting you say that because I did uh I did have to go to the dispensary again because um I just needed to pick up, you know, like I'm at a point now with the supply where I'm like hoping for the next harvest because we might run out.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Um I'm at that place too. I'm not trying to I I'm not as I'm I'm not gonna give you a jar after this episode. We'll say it like that.

SPEAKER_05 21:19

It's fine, it's fine. But like um I bought two strains because it you know, they were like strains that like just based off the name, it just brought me back. There was like nostalgia, right? So I got a Bubba, right? Oh wow. I got a Bubba was it good? It's uh yeah, it's really good.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Is it like Bubba?

SPEAKER_05 21:37

Yeah, it is it's uh bubba licious. It was Bubba and something else. Um I was like Bubba. I was like, all right, cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

I never really liked Bubba's back in the day, but they were alright. If you if that was all they had, I said.

SPEAKER_05 21:47

No, no, it's it's it's a good shibba. But it's a good bubba? It's a good bubba, because it's like whatever it's mixed with, like um and then the other one was a blue dream. See, uh blue dream, is that sativa, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Yeah. Yeah, I I I um I I like both of those strains back in the day. Yeah, that's why that like that's why I bought them because I was like But it's it's it's cool to be able to like like I remember with with our homie Sebastian how he said he wanted to grow Durban po or he he missed Durban Poison. I'm sad that they come through though. And and that's that's kind of where where I'm at now with with the with the whole grow update is you know I I'm I'm at an I'm gonna probably add some more seeds, pop some more seeds, but also pop some more autoflowers. Um because I do want to have that setup of an autoflour tent because those bonus bonus harvests that they have every every 90 days, it's it's really nice and it supplements it supplements the supply for a while. Um but I also found a whole bunch of weed that I didn't realize I had in the drying rooms. I have uh I have a whole bunch of gelato 33. Okay and and uh I think wait, where was it? It's it's been in the drying tent the whole time. Oh so it's probably dry as fuck, but I could probably wash it and use it for butter or or I could drag grind it up and put it in joints. It's fine. You know?

SPEAKER_05 23:20

No, I mean like I I I'm pretty sure even if it's dry, it still can't be as bad as if like you're buying like bargain bin weed at the dispensary.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Because some of that stuff is It's the bargain bin, it's the bargain bin weed in my house. It's still free. So I'm bargain weed boud a lounge. Yeah. I'm fine with it.

SPEAKER_05 23:38

No, because like I mean, like, yeah, like you know when you go to Because it's the stuff that I can basically save for butter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

So some of it is shavings and and just and just like trim. Like I think it is for the gelato 33, it's just trim, which I'm gonna make into butter.

SPEAKER_05 23:51

I'm I'm pretty sure it'll still be better than like do you ever buy like those uh like those jars of joints? It'd be like 25. Oh, those joints were awful.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Yeah, but it was they almost tasted like cigarettes, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:02

But they would be like 25, 30 joints, and it'd be like, oh, 15 bucks for this whole thing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

Like I bought them, I've been as susceptible to those before. I'm pretty sure I've been I've been uh low on money and need a lot of weed and yeah, I'm pretty sure you'll still be fine. Um but those those were my least favorite. Like the well, the and and and it's kind of the journey that you take. You know, eventually you get tired of smoking shitty weed, just in the same way, like a nice I mean, maybe not, because I don't know how many people grow their own wine grapes, but I mean I get ya, I get you. You know, some who how many there's some people who brew their own beer in their garage, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but that's the it's a thing, you know, and and again for me it's a thing. I I'll keep reminding it. You know, it it's such an empowering thing because I just remember how much I used to spend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:56

Like making pruno in your own closet.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

Yeah, but now it's but well isn't pruno like prison weed or prison jail, prisoner. Prison wine, what the hell? Jesus Christ. I want to be a weed guru, not the fucking warden. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I I but I know I I am I I am at a point now where like everything is perfect.

SPEAKER_04 25:25

That's good.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Because the seeds pop right in season, so they're growing perfectly. The veg cycle is growing perfect. Look, look at follow us on Instagram for updates and on visual updates, because I'm gonna upload a uh seedling to veg cycle kind of thing soon uh video. Uh and also a little bit of a thing where I I show the maintenance of what I do during veg since I ha I do veg them for a long time. I do the I do the four week let's grow it big and then I do another four weeks in July because that's a season veg. Get big because I only have six six plants. So I want to get them as big as possible and rotate them out. And clone them and you know, get them get them as as bushy and as you know, as as take up the whole space of the pot as possible, and then flip it to flower in August, August, September, and then another October harvest. Yeah. And just hope that all the weed lasts that I have in the fridge till then. It may not, but that's okay because I have we have the greenhouse harvest of the chicken and waffles, which is like you were saying, it's growing weird.

SPEAKER_05 26:41

It's yeah, like the the the buds are not like typical, like what how would you be?

SPEAKER_01 26:46

They're very leafy. They're leafy buds. There's there's a it's not even just the bud, but it's like, okay, so like how would you describe like a well and they're also only like week five or six, so there's still a lot of um uh pistols versus buds, because the pistols end eventually kind of conglomerate conglomerate into buds.

SPEAKER_05 27:04

Yeah, so like okay, so like you know if you have like a bud, it's like um, you know, like the typical shape would be like a like a strawberry. Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01 27:11

An upside down strawberry.

SPEAKER_05 27:12

Yeah, upside down strawberry, right? So like the the ones in the greenhouse, it's not quite like that.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

It's no, they're more of like upside down corn cobs. Corn cobs? A little bit, but not as but they're not as dense as corn cobs. Like baby corn? Like, yeah, like baby corn.

SPEAKER_05 27:28

Yeah, I can't I can see that.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Yeah, like what do they call Riduki? I don't know. What like the little little corn, the little corn? I just call them the little corn that Tom Cruise spit out uh in in big. Remember when he was eating a little corn, like it was a little corn, and then anyway. I just call him baby corn. It's some there's a name for it. There's a specific name for baby corn? Yes, if you can, if you know, send us a DM and tell us. Or we can also Google it. But it's it's a thing. There's a name for it. It's it begins with a R. You can Google it, see what it is. Baby corn. It begins with a R. I'm saying. Hold on, hold on, let's see. Baby corn. Technical name or no, no, it's just there's the other another name for baby corn. Let me see. R word for baby.

SPEAKER_05 28:17

Yeah, see cornlets, young corn, baby sweet corn. I don't see what you're talking about. Never mind, man. It's all good. I'll just try to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

There's a term for maybe it's a French word, I don't know. But I've heard it before, and it begins with R. And maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm imagining it, maybe I dreamed it. But there was a term for baby corn. The little baby not the not the corn, but the like the little underdeveloped little corn that people use for hors d'oeuvres. That's what I'm talking about. Anyway. Hold on, I digress.

SPEAKER_05 28:52

I'm interested now. I'm trying to I don't I'm interested now. I'm trying to.

unknown 28:59

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 29:00

I don't know. I think Eric's making stuff up. Maybe I'm making it up. Anyways, um going back to going back to um strains that are hard to find nowadays.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

But um like Skywalker is another one.

SPEAKER_05 29:17

I I I don't think Skywalker ever went away because that's you know that's that's Bum B. You know, like Dr. Green Thumb's always had Skywalker.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

Yes, yes, and people have always had a Skywalker or a Skywalker OG or a Skywalker OG Kush or a Baby Yoda or a Darth Vader. There's always been a whole bunch of different of that lineage. Yeah, yeah. Skywalker, Jedi, whatever, whole bunch of that Star Wars after that name that's basically from that same lineage. Or supposed to be, which is why like I always, whenever I find seeds, whether it's Jedi cookies or it's what what's another strain that Yoda Nana, which is very bomb. I've been I've been smoking that lately, and it's a perfect, perfect joint weed. It's perfect Indica joint. Perfect Indica joint.

SPEAKER_05 30:14

It's uh like uh for for myself, like I've I usually like will find you know weed from or like strains from back in the day. Like I'll find them like randomly. But there's like there are a couple strains that I can't like they just disappeared, or like it's like what's one that you're looking for? No, like so any of the any of the OGs or the cushions that were named after planets. Did you ever have any of those?

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 30:41

There was like Mars OG, Jupiter. Yeah. There was uh there was uh those are gone.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

I'm not sure where I've never I haven't seen those in a long time.

SPEAKER_05 30:49

Yeah, I haven't seen like anything related to the planets because they're used to like, and it could have been just like because this was you know, people just making up names, you know.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Yeah, it could have been just people making up names. But at the same time, yeah, I I remember those planet OGs and all those different like like Jupiter OG and Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

Uh it wasn't there, there was a Pluto OG. Yeah, they had they there was there was the whole thing. I had I had all there wasn't a Uranus OG. There was not. Okay, there wasn't. There was not there there's no way there would have been a Uranus OG.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

You smoking Uranus? Uh what you got then? I got this Uranus, bro. You don't even know. It's this OG Uranus. I'm smoking Uranus.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

What? What are you smoking? No. They would never have named the stream. Maybe they maybe they pronounced it Uranus. No.

unknown 31:39

No.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

They would not.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

No, because there was I might name this episode Uranus OG. Was there a Uranus OG? Uranus OG.

SPEAKER_05 31:49

Uh no, because there was definitely so there was Mercury, there was uh Mercury, Mars. Was there an Earth? I don't remember. No, there was no Earth. No Earth.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

Uh Venus, Jupiter, uh Yeah, there was a Venus OG, a Jupiter OG.

SPEAKER_05 32:05

I don't think there was a Neptune OG.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

No, there was a Neptune OG. I remember smoking a Neptune OG. And then Pluto, I think. And then there was a Pluto OG, but there was never a Uranus. Yeah, yeah. I think I've seen Pluto recently. We just named all the planets in order. That's good. That's how good we are in astronomy. Yeah, it's yeah, potheads aren't smart. Yeah, take that.

SPEAKER_05 32:24

I don't I don't know if that's uh that's the in the order.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

Is it? It's Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. Oh, we didn't say Saturn. No, we did. No, we didn't. Yeah, we because there was a Saturn OG.

SPEAKER_05 32:40

No, no, but we did say it.

SPEAKER_01 32:41

Yeah, we did. We did. I said it. Okay. When you listen to the play, like, you'll hear. I said it's Saturn OG. Because I like Saturn. Saturn is my favorite planet. It's it's boring and trite, I understand. Because everybody likes Saturn because of the rings, but it's still my favorite planet. Saturn is a bomb planet. Like if I would want to live on another planet, I think it's a giant sky. It's great. It's a Saturn. Jupiter's cool too with that big ass red eye. It's cool. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_05 33:06

Shout out to the Artemis crew.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Um where did they go? Where did they go? They went to Mars, right?

SPEAKER_05 33:12

Uh no, they just I think they went to the moon and they slingshot it back.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Oh, yeah, you're right. Artemis. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was confusing that with uh whatever Elon's trying to do. He can go to Mars. I hope he goes to Mars. I hope he goes and stays stays the fuck over there.

SPEAKER_05 33:25

Stays adrift in space.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Um, or or uh, you know, get your eyes to Mars and he ends up like totally eyeballs pop out.

SPEAKER_05 33:34

Yeah, like that. Um but yeah, what else? I haven't seen you said that you found seeds for a permanent marker.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

No, I found clones for permanent marker at Buds and Roses, which is now closed. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. But yeah, no, they I I I think they have uh they had a a sister company that still sells clones and they'll mail them to you, and they can mail me permanent marker. But I'm interested. To mail something so delicate, I don't I don't I don't I don't just to invest even even a hundred bucks is is is a lot of money to to to throw away if you get a dead plant in the yeah that sounds like customer service. But their service is working and they it works, so I'm guessing there's a way of packaging it to where you know but even then I can't like I I could I I just would I couldn't trust it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's uh no that's very iffy, it's a very iffy delivery service, and especially if it's out of state, it's not in California. And since I live in California, why would we do that? You can just go to go another there's Green Dragon, which is in the valley as well, and it's a reputable place, it's been around for years, so I'm not you know, but they they at Green Dragon, I was looking at their menu. They have like clones that are $200.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

Of what though?

SPEAKER_01 35:03

I bro, I want to go over there and look. Because it might be because I was just reading I'm reading.

SPEAKER_05 35:07

You better be buying like a like a s like a pretty formed plant at that point.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Well, I think to a I think it might be, or the genetics is just that crazy fire that it's that that you want to buy it.

SPEAKER_05 35:19

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

That's it's it's anytime you're buying seeds, anytime you're buying any clones, it's always a risk.

SPEAKER_05 35:27

Because like for 200 bucks, how many packets of seeds could you buy? Three. And then that so that's one plant versus for sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

For sure. But then you can have a packet of seeds that I just got. Like uh, you know, shout out to Humboldt Seed Company. Most of the genetics I got from there are awesome, but I bought a whole, I think two, two five packs of blueberry pancakes, and none of them popped.

SPEAKER_05 35:57

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

So seeds are also it's still a gamble. Everything's a gamble when it comes to it. Because if it's a seed, you can put it in the ground, you can't force it to, you know, you can't force it to get on the incurrency. And this and the same thing with the clone is you can put it into your pot and you can't it like remember the first set of clones we bought at from Buds and Roses and how the shock. They sometimes you get that transplant shock and they they don't they don't make it. And so I would hate to do that with a $200 clone and then and then didn't make it, that would that would suck. I would start with like somewhere in the mid. Oh no, they have $20 clones too. They also have $12 clones.

SPEAKER_05 36:39

No, no, but what I'm saying is like from the 200, like if you're really trying to find something, like I would I would start with like you know, like the cheap, the like get the cheap one, right?

SPEAKER_01 36:48

But then the I the the actually the the first place that I purchased clones in the first round of ever ever the first clones I ever grew were from Green Dragon.

SPEAKER_05 37:02

How much how much were they when when you bought them?

SPEAKER_01 37:05

12 bucks each. Yeah, I didn't I didn't spend a lot of money because it was the first time I was growing, so I bought two. I think I bought when we went to Buds and Roses, how much was it at Buds and Roses? 25 each. Okay. And then they have other their their premium clones at Buds and Roses were like there was a blood orange one that I wanted to try. A blood orange tangi, it was like 50 bucks. So that that was their higher level. At Green Dragon, they have a bunch of different $20 and $12 clones, but they also have a handful of $200 clones.

SPEAKER_05 37:41

Could you imagine if you had like a nurse like you know, like a Garden Armstrong Center or Armstrong Garden Center, like uh or or like a you know, like a nursery, right? Like where you like for cannabis? Yeah, and then like pretty much like if the if no one buys the clone, like if they just grow, like you just you could also buy from the from the nursery.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

Correct. That's coming.

SPEAKER_05 38:03

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

I would I would like to be the uh investor. Like I would I would I would I would like to be the green giant ho ho ho uh logo for that uh just basically. Just a diant statue of me with enchinelas and shorts. Um joint in hand, joint in hand with my other hand down my pants, scratching my nuts. Yeah, that's a good statue.

SPEAKER_05 38:32

Why why are the nuts?

SPEAKER_01 38:33

I'm always down there.

SPEAKER_05 38:35

I hope you wash your hands frequently. Oh, God.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

If you for the for everybody as an audio podcast, I just sniffed my fingers.

SPEAKER_05 38:44

I'm pretty sure they heard the sniff.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

They heard the sniff, but they didn't know what I was sniffing. They knew that I and I'm just kidding. I wash my hands all the time. It's gross. I know, I know. That's disgusting. I would never have my my nutsack juice on my fingers before.

SPEAKER_05 38:58

That's the that's the secret ingredient to why all his weed is good.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

Yeah, that that that is. That's the secret for that's the garden shadow. That's the gardener shadow. It's actually nut j nutsack juice.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

But he just he just he just teabags all the all the plants.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

I teabag the plants. I I don't top my my plants, I teabag them.

SPEAKER_03 39:17

Yeah, he doesn't he doesn't give them words information.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

I glisten them with little sweat from my nutsack and they just grow like fucking amazing. You don't know, that's the secret. What this is episode 56, you've listened for 56 episodes and you finally know the secret. Finally know the canakuya secret, just like everything, with all your cuyas and titos, it always involves their nuts.

SPEAKER_05 39:42

I I want to have one of those uh Gange Ganja Somaliers like come onto the show and taste your weed and be like, hmm, I I I I sense hints of um testicles?

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Is it testicles? I sense Filipino testicle. Let's become a new terp.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

Uh hey, you got that Filipino testicle. You got that Filipino testicle terp.

SPEAKER_04 40:07

So stupid. Oh man. Did you imagine?

SPEAKER_01 40:12

I can I just we just did. We just imagined. Oh just imagined it.

SPEAKER_04 40:16

Hey, let me get some of those. Let me get some of that.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

No, and guys, I don't really, I don't really full disclosure. I don't pull my nuts out and teabag the plants. That is not the secret. The secret is love. Yeah, he and and check it in at the plants every day and watering them by hand.

SPEAKER_05 40:37

That's how that's how Eric uh gets like the right depth for seeds. He just sticks his dick in the dirt and then he's like, oh, perfect.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

First of all, that would be way too way too big a hole and way too deep. You don't want to plant your you just want a little you want to plant them at the surface so they just pop right out. You don't want to plant them that deep. And it would be so deep. That's like you'd that's like tent pole deep, and you don't want that. You don't want that, you don't want that. Don't ever, don't ever take gardening advice from Mitch. Especially not planting advice, and especially not penis planting advice, because he'll steer you wrong for sure.

SPEAKER_05 41:17

That's the secret ingredient. That's the that's not it's not. That's how Eric gets such a hype.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

You know, we're trying to be informative here at this canvas in the Cantacuya podcast, and you putting out information like that will destroy our reputation.

SPEAKER_05 41:31

Dude, I just want there to be. I just want there to be like one online article of like some dude getting arrested for doing shit with plants and be like, I was listening to Kanakuyas.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

I was listening to the Kanakuyas and they told me that you should teabag your plants, and I just thought that you know I'd I'd walk into your dispensary and I'd I'd do it for you since it's Eric's secret.

SPEAKER_06 41:55

Or it's some dude like outside is just like if it if it worked for Eric's marijuana plants, I figured what harm would it do for my peach tree?

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Don't do that, guys. Don't do that. Don't listen to Mitch. Don't listen to Mitch. Because this is again creativity, too. That we talk about creativity, and and Mitch got a little creative with his processes. Okay?

SPEAKER_05 42:19

This is this is my mind, everybody. This is what I think about.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

Yeah, this is what he contributes to the Candouya podcast. Is this craziness?

SPEAKER_05 42:27

Yeah, and this and my dulcet voice. Dulcet? Yeah. Dulcet. My vocabulary is on point today. So, but uh, all right, so uh other than weed, like how how's everything been like? I know you were in uh Chicago, New York recently.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

Yeah. How's that? I mean that you know I'm it's learning to be on the road, it's doing the stuff, it's awesome. I love it. It's I mean, New York was great because it was it was kind of like a little bit of a vacation. Nice, and it was actually during the uh Cavaliers part of their championship run, so they were really dominant. And I don't think there was a home game during that time, but I was staying right by MSG. My friends who live there were right by right by Madison Square Garden. So that whole energy was so bombed to feel in New York because it was just everybody was, you know, it it it reminded me of my days back in Chicago in the 90s because I I like I feel so much fun.

SPEAKER_05 43:29

I feel lucky that uh I got to watch a basketball game, or I got to watch a couple of basketball games at uh Madison Square. Like um I was there when Kobe dropped, what was it, 61? Oh yeah. You were there? I was there for that game. Oh, that's awesome. I was sick as fuck though. But you were there. I was there, I thought I was in like a big ass jacket, I had a mask on, you know. I was just like still, bro.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

You were there. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 43:50

I was feverish chanting like you know, Lakers. And then like uh and then two days later, uh, this was when LeBron was still with the Cavs, uh, he dropped like 40.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

And you were there too?

SPEAKER_05 44:01

Yeah, I was there.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

Well, what were you in New York and you were just going to Knicks games?

SPEAKER_05 44:04

There was like it was just the two games that uh were going on when I was there, and my friends already got me tickets.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 44:11

Um let's see. In terms of what's going on, I just uh I'm on summer break now. Like uh for those of you that don't know, I am a teacher for my day job, and uh I try not to work summers.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

So we'll probably have more episodes and some more videos coming.

SPEAKER_05 44:27

We got we got time. I got time.

SPEAKER_01 44:29

Mitch has time and and then Mitch Mitch Mitch texts me and say, hey, we should do something, we should do an episode.

SPEAKER_05 44:35

Yeah, yeah. I was like, uh we should we should probably do something.

SPEAKER_01 44:38

No, but we do I also am gonna tag their floor again uh because I do wanna have a little conversation with them and she can uh Lisa and Brian can give us a lowdown of the uh the status of the cannabis industry and as far as how it relates to Filipino American industry and their the small businesses that are owned by Filipinos and Filipinas, I should say. But I that's really one of my you know how uh this American uh this Filipino American life has been posting their dream guests. Well that well Dear Flor and Lisa and Brian are like my dream guests for this show because they're they can definitely uh set season three off on a different trajectory.

SPEAKER_05 45:22

That'd be nice. Um but other than that, just stay tuned, guys. Like if you aren't, uh follow us on social media. We're on Instagram and Threads, uh Canakuyas, C-A-N-N-A-K-U-Y-A-S.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

I'm so glad he spells good out loud, because I'm not good at it. As you guys know, if you've listened to the episodes before.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Yeah, follow us. Uh Eric's got uh videos on there of him teabagging the plants, so make sure you follow us and uh like and subscribe for that. Leave him a comment, tell him uh how deep he should uh teabag the plants. Um it helps. So it's no Alright guys, you've been listening to the Kanakuya podcast where we are cultivating conversations concerning cannabis culture and creativity. I'm Mitch Narito. And I am Eric Esteban.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

And to all our marijuana artists and canakuyas, stay lifted, stay elevated, y'all, and watch the videos on Instagram, the seed to harvest.

SPEAKER_05 46:25

Yes, Eric, put your balls away. Yeah, get away. Thanks, everyone. See ya.

SPEAKER_09 46:30

Yeah, yeah. I got my hoodie on now, peep the chest, and human candy list, downtown true love. Well, I go caught some shit. Fuck a thief. So fuck Zoomies, yeah. They whack as jack and shit. Y'all move too swift, so I'm striking silence. Fuck the violence, man. Check my mind, cause I got drive. First two, I drove six states, never thought be dead. Right by my side, man. What a time is to be alive. See, I'm charged up, feelin' energized, do the enterprise, move stupid sides. Yeah, I like shit like a status prize. Whoa, Fox got two, you out of lies. Yeah, go against us. I would not advise us. Then you can find us. Our songs should have more place, but we two low, they rewind us. All my targets lined up. Every day my girl get fine. All my clothes is local, bitch. I really write this down the stuff.

SPEAKER_08 47:13

I just in the room, you know, where the fuck the fuck? You can count on train count, bring the loud back out. Get us in a stewin' that's getting older. Western metal building, that's a home run. Yeah, get the up for me. The fuck a fold just Little bitch, I made the beat and dropped the folders. I just hit her steel, I got drip. Package born and raised, bitch. I got drip. You know the compara. You still gonna be panna. Say I'm a trick, for my dog. Hey, I'm in these papiers. I listened in the room, you know, what the fuck? You can count on trick up in the lap, eh? Get us in the stewin', that's getting older. Western metal building, that's a home run.

SPEAKER_09 48:05

Yeah, we got hits like Dottie Sem Machado, man. We know you're not the leader. Cause all our moves you just follow, pegin' big bows. You know we just scooped up that gelato. Cause I smoke killer, my shirt, hill. Yo, ask our dealer, we the How you see the room, just look up what's and you can find us. Uh so have more place, but we too dope, they rewind us. All my targets lined up. Every day my girl get fine. All my clothes is local, bitch. I really rock design up. Uh I still bring up loud bat.

unknown 48:39

Get us in a snoo and that's getting older. Uh Western metal building, that's a home run.