Well, TOTY is over and we feel the need to offer each other a good counselling session to try and help us recover from the exhausting grind that was upgrade recycling with so little reward. We discuss the main points of contention, pack weight, the lack of home for 83/84 dupes, the lack of tradeable packs available, and of course the 'incident' with the play pick! We also reflect on what we liked about the promo and how we are feeling about TOTY 25 and looking ahead to the next few weeks.