ARE You FAT? What If It Was Never About How Much. What If It Was Always About How Often.

The 1950s ate butter, bread, and bacon. They were leaner than we are. We eat low-fat yogurt and turkey wraps and we are sicker than they ever were. The variable that changed is not what they ate. It is how often.

In this episode I make the case that frequency of eating, not volume, is the lever nobody is pulling. We went from two meals a day with hours of empty space between them to six to ten ingestion events per twenty-four hours. The country's bodies changed in response. "Eat less, move more" is a trap. Your metabolism downshifts to match. Your fitness tracker lies. Biology beats the math every time.

I unpack why GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic and Mounjaro work. They suppress ghrelin and slow gastric emptying, which is what fasting does for free. The drug is rented fasting. The mechanism is the same.

I talk about the sugar that is not labeled sugar. Pasta. White bread. Crackers. Granola. Rice cakes. The pancreas reads molecules, not labels. We talk about the addiction nobody wants to name. The dopamine response to refined carbohydrate is in the same neighborhood as cocaine, nicotine, and gambling. AA exists. NA exists. There is no room for food addicts. So I am building one.

I went from 365 pounds and a 65-inch waist to a 38. I am not a doctor. I am one food addict talking to other food addicts.

What you walk out with: how to compress the eating window, what to eat when it is open, how to refeed like an adult, and why chewing your food until your jaw hurts is the cheapest intervention nobody is doing.

The room is at TheLastAddiction.com. The door says food addict on it. Walk in.

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What if it's really about frequency of eating? What if maybe over the years, over the maybe not so many centuries, because food has never been as plentiful as it is now, but what if it is frequency? What if it the actual truth is that we're eating too much too often, and you can probably throw in of the wrong things. I think that's probably very prevalent to what's going on in the world. You notice that if you look at videos from the 40s and 50s, and yes, I know we came through a Great Depression and food was probably scarce, but people look like they were in better shape. And of course, they were probably smoking five packs of cigarettes a day. I don't know how that impacted everything. Probably not well. But if you look at the way the world's changed, you can look at just the obesity epidemic as being something that has become a major problem. Having said that, you know, it kind of makes you think when all they talk about on TV is eating less and moving more. Are you exercising enough? And then you look at the numbers that are burned through exercise, it's kind of sad. I mean, if you really go all out in some kind of a cardio session, I don't, I don't know how how large you are if you're watching this, and maybe you're in great shape watching this, but the larger you are, the more calories you burn. It's also more difficult to move, you know, because you're carrying around all that energy on your body in the form of fat. And energy is made to be burned. But what we notice is whenever you're eating less and moving more, when you eat less, your body's pretty smart. It says, well, you know, why am I, why am why do I have the metabolism up so high? Why don't I go ahead and slow that down a little bit? Because, well, food's not very abundant, apparently, right now. So we're gonna go ahead and slow it down, slow the metabolism down. So the eating less thing, it really becomes kind of eating normal. And then what if over time, if you start to eat what would be your normal again, then of course you put on a lot of fat because now you're eating over wherever your metabolic system did a readjustment to. Interesting. Maybe that's the problem, but like I was mentioning earlier, you go walk on the treadmill or on the stationary bike, or even go out for a walk and you have your little Fitbit or whatever device there to tell you what kind of calories you burn. Yeah, I mean, you might as well say you weigh a thousand pounds, and then the calories look, you know, pretty impressive when you go for a half an hour walk. But unfortunately, if maybe you're not a thousand pounds if you are, I'm sorry. Uh there's a way to fix that. It's it's just gonna take you a lot longer than somebody that only has 20 pounds to lose. And then what's the best way to lose the weight? And what do you want to lose just weight or do you want to just target fat? These are a lot of other things. So you see that there's drugs out there that you can take now that suppress appetite. They cause a lot of fangs, a lot of problems, maybe potentially a lot of issues longer term, but they're FDA approved, so I guess it's okay. But when you're looking at it, they slow down one diet one's digestive system. Apparently, they do that. Plus, they also take away the appetite. So they keep what's called the hunger hormone, it's called ghrelin. They keep it at bay, so you're able to not eat as much. Well, that's caloric restriction. So when we're not eating as much, maybe that's an issue because metabolism does its readjustment and the body doesn't hold on to the muscle as it does when you actually don't eat anything at all. So maybe if you take those drugs, maybe total cessation from eating would be a better place to be. But to answer, to give you something I don't know about, I'm not nutritious, not a doctor. Always talk to those before you partake in any kind of advice from anybody online, even a doctor, you want to go talk to your old doctor, they know you more intimately. But I'm wondering if you start taking the GLP1 type drugs and your appetite goes away and then you don't eat at all, if you still get the hormonal response that you would from a fast without the drug. So when you quit eating for a period of time, it's not that long. You just have to burn through whatever stored sugar you have in your system. And the issue is, or glucose or carbohydrates, however you want to put it, really glucose. You're able to store that in liver, you're able to store it in muscles. You have to run through that before you can actually start getting to the stored body fat. Most of us never get to that level. We're constantly in a fed state. Even when you go to sleep, um, you know, eight, nine, ten, eleven o'clock, you get up in the morning, you know, you've you've probably bought into the, I think it was some advertisement from a cereal brand back in the day, breakfast is the most important meal. And and break fast is the most important meal, but it's break fast, not breakfast. Very clever. And of course, then they attached onto it some study that they probably paid for that says you should eat within 30 minutes of waking up. And when you do that, it's going to keep your metabolism nice and high. So it's going to help burn things, and then you should eat every three or four hours just to keep it ramped. I remember the stories. I remember the different weight loss program, Weight Watchers, and all these others that I went through as well. It just didn't work for me. That being the case, we watch as you know, this continues to plague our society as you know, people never get to access their stored body fat. And how you get to it is once you get through the sugar that's stored in your system, then what ends up happening is your body is going to switch fuel sources. And the body's made for this. This isn't something that's unusual that only a few percentage of us do. It's pretty much everywhere that everybody that's, I guess, in what a normal health profile would be. So you want to maybe check with your doctor. Maybe you're a person that when they don't eat anything, they put on weight. I don't know, but you might want to check with them. But ultimately, if you don't eat, after a certain period of time, you get through the sugar that's stored in your body from your liver and in your muscles, and then all of a sudden your body needs to burn something. So it switches from being a carbohydrate burner over to a fat burner. Yeah. So it and where's the fat coming from? From your body. It's not there for looks. You you probably agree with that. And there are some people that just love themselves. And good for I was never a great fat person. I still am not a good fat person. When I put on weight and get happy and start going outside the rails with the way that my eating protocol is, yeah, I put on, I put on fat very, very easily. And uh I lose it very easily too, but that's because I'm I use a fasting protocol. So there there'll be days I won't eat. I mean multiple days in a row, and then I'll refeed and I'll eat goods. I've taught myself over time not to break a fast, break fast, not to break it with pizza, donuts, and ice cream and potato chips and all the other nonsense. Probably we shouldn't be eating as much of uh eggs, meat, fish, some kinds of cheeses, maybe, vegetables. That's kind of what we should be eating. Stuff that doesn't have more than you know the ingredient that comes in it, natural type food. When you start eating the food that's been processed, ultra-processed food, E, PF, you know, some Dr. Fung had a Jason Fung, if you haven't watched that cat on YouTube. You know, look at that. He's got the obesity code, he's got the hunger code, I think it is, the newest one, but it talks about why we eat. There's also other great doctors out there that talk about the addictive process of carbohydrates. You'll notice I'm saying carbohydrates, right? Sugar is the villain. But there are certain carbohydrates that might not be classified as sugar, might be classified as starches, that have that very similar impact on your insulin. And that's that's the secret, right? Whatever impacts the insulin, that hormone, it's a storage hormone. So whatever impacts it, well, that's gonna be what's gonna play out in your in your metabolic signature, your system. So if you can keep that at bay, whatever that is, and whatever these foods are, and again, that's carbohydrates, people always say sugar, and and you look at a plate of spaghetti. Well, there's no sugar in a plate of spaghetti. You look at a loaf of white wonder bread. God bless the wonderbread people. There's there's no sugar in that. It's sugar is grainy white stuff that they put in cookies, cakes, and ice creams. That's what sugar is. So we've all kind of been brainwashed to look at food and say, well, there's no sugar. There's carbohydrates, but that's not what we're fighting off. We're fighting off sugar. Well, carbohydrate is that same similar energy source. It's just some say it's good, and then say, well, you have natural carbohydrates, natural fruit sugars, and sugars from nature, yeah. Your your body, Snickers bar, coke, honey, apple, you know, apple juice potentially, because well, and and something else, they say, well, you know, fruit, you bind it with fiber, and it's better. Yeah. As a fat person, as somebody that's addicted to food, yeah, I'm not gonna get addicted to eating a whole bunch of apples, but maybe I just don't need it. You know, I I would, and especially apple juice. I mean, I can I can down on a thing of a gallon of apple juice. Next day I'm sore, my joints feel like they're going to die. Uh, I'm locked up, it's hard to lift my knees. That's kind of a sugar overdose, if you will. I don't know if you've ever experienced that, but if I, and and again, I still got that addiction problem to the carbohydrate world. Sometimes I do it, and boy, the pain is there. How many times do you have left to be able to do that without it flipping the switch and causing you some metabolic harm that you might not be able to reduce? Yeah, great question. How many cigarettes does it take to get lung cancer? Don't know. How many potato chips does it take before you get type 2 diabetes? Again, I don't know. That's very personal. But what if it does come down to just not eating for a period of time? And when you do eat, respecting yourself enough not to blow it out. And if you screw it up and you go a few days not eating and then you eat crappy food, yeah, it's gonna come out both ends. It's gonna be an experience for you if you're able to survive it, because that's kind of the danger. Back when human beings weren't eating as often, food wasn't as plentiful. So it's not like you could blow it out with your latest kill and eat all the meat you wanted. And again, trying to chew that, I, you know, before the cooking and all that, I imagine, I mean, that's why the teeth were probably in such good shape, but they didn't have the Snickers, bars, and candy and and everything laying on the other table. It's not like they had the kill here of the tribe and it was all cut up beautifully. There was a lot of work, and we lived a lot more that way than we are in the present societal condition where food is is so easily available, all you need is the money to buy it. And the food that's worse for you seems to be the cheapest. I mean, you can go into Walmart or these other stores and you can walk through those highly processed food aisles, the candies and the chips, and you know, you'll find sales of everything and you go out in the parking lot and just tear it up. And eggs, you know, eggs a dollar eighty, dollar ninety a dozen. I mean, from there you can get those. You know, it's really hard to eat a dozen eggs. And if you ate a dozen eggs every day, you might be thinking, my God, my cholesterol is going to go up. If that's all I eat is eggs, I'm gonna end up causing some damage. You might want to look at what might happen if you just ate eggs for a while or sardines. Well, there's so much fat in sardines. I mean, if I were to eat sardines and oil all the time, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what would be better for you. I know what would be better for me, the sardines and the eggs route. Yeah, that's much better for me because I've had my blood work done and I've looked at it. Also, for me, it's better for me not to eat for a while, to trim down some fat, have a nice refeed meal. I was 365 pounds. I had a 65-inch waist. Now I'm I'm in the 30s, 38-ish, 37-ish. I want to get back to 34-ish, get back. Yeah, I blew it out. I ended up doing not as bad of damage as I did in the past, but I went through the whole regimen without solving the addiction, without addressing that part of it, because who the hell wants to say that they're addicted to sugar? It's one thing to say you're addicted to alcohol, you're an alcoholic. I I know that's tough. I've been there, I get that, or addicted to cigarettes. I'm a cigarette a holic.

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Cigarettaholic.

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Anyway, that's tough to admit, but it's much easier. But when you say, Yeah, I'm addicted to sugar, I'm addicted to food, I'm addicted to pizza, yeah, it just doesn't sound the same. It sounds much weaker uh from a standpoint. It sounds very, very weak, like, wow, you let pizza rule your life. You can't do without pizza, you can't do without sugar, you can't do without candy. I I'm uh I'm uh a supermarket shopping cart viewer. I don't know if you do this, but when I go to the supermarket, I kind of like to see what's in people's carts. And I kind of fantasize because I remember how my cart used to be. You know, a few bags of chips, a few crappy uh frozen things from the frozen department, like those itty bitty little pizzas and hot pockets and just complete nonsense and microwave burritos and very rarely whole foods, very rare meat, very rarely hamburger, very rarely chicken. It was all the processed crap. And I go to the supermarket and I always connect the cart with the person. And anyway, that that's my that's my fun. And you can tell how people look directly correlates to what they buy at the supermarket, what is in their shopping cart. You can tell. So maybe start doing that. Maybe look at your own shopping cart, be your own worst critic and say, well, what of these foods can I explain in one ingredient? How many of these? Because that's kind of where maybe would be better for a lot of us to be. What kind of food? So eggs that has eggs, um and beef, that's beef. And you know, hot dogs. Well, there's 50,000 things in hot dogs. So maybe not that one. Chicken, yeah, chicken, eggs, they cover eggs, yeah. Cottage cheese, yeah, there's there's stuff in there. Other types of cheese, yeah, there's other ingredients in there. You have to kind of weigh that out. Lettuce, yeah, that's that's lettuce, tomato, yeah. Kind of a fruit, maybe, I guess. But you know, you get the idea, right? Um, honey, yeah, honey is just one thing, but what kind of impact does it have on my system? Is it gonna is it gonna raise my insulin levels? Well, ask, ask your favorite large language model. What will it do? Yes, it's natural. But my problem is I I can't take a little spoon of honey and put it in my coffee. I'm gonna squeeze half the bottle in there. Again, the addictive process. So, me, I just don't have it. Same thing with anything that's sweet. I have a banana, but then I want to have brownies and cookies after the banana. You know, and of course, that's just that reaction because when you eat something sweet, that's the dopamine hit. So your brain says, oh, this is good. We're gonna remember this. And then it remembers it. And my brain has a very good rememberer when it comes to eating crap. But what if maybe the way it should be is we don't eat for a period of time. We have a couple refeeds, at least while we're trying to cut, cut the fat off, because your body switches fuel systems, as I said in the beginning, and it'll start to burn stored body fat. Usually we don't get to the burning of stored body fat thing until we're 24 to 36 hours of not eating. And to get there, well, we should practice. Maybe, maybe go from grazing all day to having two square meals, square, two meal times, maybe five or six hours apart, eating during the meal, and you don't have anything else to eat during any other time. You take maybe an hour, 45 minutes or an hour to eat. Don't rush. Chew your food so much you feel like your jaw's gonna fall off, even if you're eating baby food. Not that you're gonna be eating baby food, but whatever you're eating, chew it until it's it, there's just, I mean, it has been completely demolished. Try that for a little while. It's called mastication, not the other one. Mastication is that repetitive chewing and some yogis and these really fancy people that are like rail thin, you know, they chew a lot. And it's good for your facial muscles, good for your jaw, good for your teeth. It makes everything strong. Again, I'm not a dentist or a doctor, but I've read this. Maybe more chewing could be the answer. And trust me, if you count your chews and you're 50, 60, 70, uh, before you even swallow the first bite, it takes a while. And you know, it's tiring. It's really tiring, especially if you're eating the right type of food. It's hard to do it when you're eating highly processed food. For some reason, the pizza, you just want to take the, you know, chew a few bites and get it down. It I've noticed that. Cookies, same thing. You don't sit there and chew the cookie 50, 60 times. But an egg, yeah, you could you could eviscerate an egg when it comes to chewing. Maybe that'll help. Anyway, uh, the lastaddiction.com. I'm gonna find the mouse and we'll talk to you guys uh tomorrow. Thanks for watching.