Angee the Diva; Part 1 - Being a Comedian With Kids | S2 Ep 6

Angee the Diva is an American comedian based in Saigon, Vietnam.

She was a 2019 finalist in the Vietnam Comedy Competition and has been a headlining gigs around Vietnam and South East Asia since 2017, as a solo comedian and as half of the comedy duo, “Stand Up for the Queens”. She has headlined solo in Canada and USA, as well. This mother of two, writer, event planner, and boss as bitch will leave you in stitches with her raunchy yet relatable comedic stories!

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Transcript

spk_1:   0:00
way. Welcome to another episode of seven million bakes a Saigon podcast. Thank you for listening. My name is New MK. I am your host today. My guest is a comedian on event planner, a mother and also a self described boss ass bitch. If you haven't guessed already by that description, My guest today is Angie the Diva. Thank you very much for coming on the show. Thank you for

spk_0:   0:35
having me to your self

spk_1:   0:37
describe boss ass bitch. Why?

spk_0:   0:41
Because I am in charge and I do a lot of stuff in the city. I've always had a lot of stuff everywhere I've lived. I've always sort of in managerial roles and things like that. Um, and of course, as a woman and especially as a black woman. Like she's such a bitch. But it's like you can call me that. However, please call me that bitch that you paid. You can call me issues, running things. You can call me your boss ass bitch. And actually, just do what I told you, Teo. Ownership? Yes, yes, absolutely. Also, business cards. It's just really catching on your business. People love it. They remember it. Remember it? Memorable How long have you been inside? Go now. I mean, it's I got for Ah, a little more than two and 1/2 years. I actually first came to Vietnam. I lived in Lantau for five months, which I absolutely hated. Why is that? It's so small. There's not a whole lot to do there and the beaches of trash. So I was like coming from Maui to there. It was just like this. This is like a smaller version of Molly. But without the beaches, why am I here? And then why

spk_1:   2:05
have you left Hawaii, which is this? I've never bean backing of videos, pictures, movies this paradise Come to Linda.

spk_0:   2:12
Why is beautiful? Valley is exceptional, The people are amazing and the culture is wonderful, but it's expensive, so, so, so expensive. When I left, my rent was about $1900 us for a very crappy two bedroom apartment with nothing in it. I was working like 60 plus hours a week on DH, still living below the poverty line so that I can give you like a picture of what it is. And I was I was I'm a certified teacher, so I was teaching public education had two part time jobs after I would get off of my public education job, and I still was not able to make ends meet for myself. But that's

spk_1:   3:02
common in America. Like that's a crisis right now in America, like it's really common for its teachers have 23 jobs and still not be able to make ends meet and be buying supplies and things like that in the classroom, right? Absolutely.

spk_0:   3:15
It is a major problem. Uh, the education system in the U. S. Is trash. Really? Blood is trash, but there are a tonne of very hardworking and passionate teachers who are trying to do their absolute best to educate our youth. And they just don't have the support. And quite frankly, they don't have the respect educators should have. So I just was like, Enough is enough. I'm not really enjoying my job. Don't didn't really agree with the structure of education there, and actually, what happened? Wass? I was teaching the school where my son was going to preschool and we were at school from, like, seven o'clock in the morning until 5 36 37 at night, and one day he was he came to me at like 5 36 is in tears is like I just want I just wanna go home and have a tonne of things still to do. And I had to go to my other job and I was just like, This can't be my life forever. There has to be something better. And so I started researching and trying to figure out what I could do as a single parent, as a teacher with the skills that I had. Where can I go? What can I do on DH? The first option wass to go to the like the continental U. S. I had some friends in Seattle. Turns out Seattle was almost as expensive. Is why is how a

spk_1:   4:55
lot more expensive than Continental. It is

spk_0:   4:59
about the same as New York. L. A is about there. Yeah, the price of land and property is is very exuberant, and the wages do not add up to what you need to. So I started researching how I could get out of us after it became clear that no matter where I lived in the US, it was gonna be pretty much the same issue and I came across this woman's Blawg. Her name is Tin a Bernard. Um she runs, um, a Facebook group and a blogged. And she's she wass a single mother of three and she was teaching in the U S A. And making a really good salary and able to save enough money to take our kids around. And I was like, Okay, I'm a teacher. I could do that. So I contacted a few companies and then I got an interview for a job in Abu Dhabi. Didn't get the job, but I was already in the mindset like I'm leaving S o. I just saved up a few $1000 like I left the States with $3000 maybe like another five grand on credit cards. Andi at the time, my mom did not know that, and I left with what what most Americans are most Westerners would think is not enough. Um, and the decision between this decision was between Southeast Asia and South America, because the cost of living on paper is about the same, um, the tickets to Southeast Asia, where $50 cheaper. So we started in Bali. We left in August of 2016.

spk_1:   6:57
We being you and you give

spk_0:   6:58
me my kids. We started in Bali. We stayed there months. We went to East Java for about two and 1/2 weeks on DH. Then we went back to Bali for two more weeks. Then we went to Malaysia. Thailand, Um, back to Malaysia, Singapore, back to Thailand, to Cambodia and back to Malaysia. Three grand. Yeah, well, I mean, like, yeah, pretty much like I had a little bit of cash here and there that I would make my mom scent, like, you know, a couple 100 bucks here, there, but yeah, basically, we did. We did a few work ways so that that was like two weeks to a month at a time where we didn't have accommodation or food costs. So that helped a lot. What a cool experience. Where

spk_1:   7:53
you're Yeah, it was.

spk_0:   7:55
It was. It is still the best decision I've ever made. Best decision I've ever made to give my kids that experience and coming from an island where there's not a whole lot going on, they don't They're no real museums there. There's no theatre, there's no concerts. There's, you know, there's no cultural elements at all. There's no bowling or ice skating. There's no there's no there's no there's no. So if you're yeah, you're not in the water, sports or hiking. There's not like a tonne for you to do there. You have to leave the island and it's super expensive to leave. So I mean, you know, like for a single person, paying 203 104 100 for a round trip ticket is one thing. But when you've got two little people, you have no income, and you have to pay for them as well. That become that, you know, two or $300 trip becomes a grand, and that's that's insurmountable for most people. So when we got to Asia, I was able to give them so many first experiences. Like I remember taking them bowling for the first time, and they would, And I mean balling is cheap everywhere, like it was. It was Pettis, but they were so stoked to like roll the ball into the gutter every single time, like they were talking trash. You could show complete things go. I gotta prepare my kid's for real life. There are no bumpers and relax and I beat them at bowling and I feel good. Um so to give my kids so many first experiences was amazing, and I will have that forever. That is something that they will have forever. Now they're back in us with their dad. We went back in January, and it's been it's been interesting has been like, you know, a really nice journey, tohave to have done so many things with my kids and have those memories. But now they go back and I hear them talking to their friends and they sound so fucking Bujji they sound so boo. Gee, they're just like, Oh, do you remember what we went Bali. And we did that to remember we were Malaysia and we did that. They just sound like those kids that don't have friends. So I think it will be. I think in the long term it will have been a fantastic experience for them. They definitely are much more independent than their other friends. They're they're problem solvers. They know how to learn by themselves. They know how to get through airport through immigration, with no problems at all. They know the extremes. Rates of like five or six countries, and they understand what that process is. That, like American dollars, are not everything. They understand that America is not everything,

spk_1:   11:02
which is a huge lesson. But, I mean, I know a lot of Americans. As you know, my wife is American, and that is a huge thing for many Americans when they leave, like, Oh, because I know the sender of the world legal face right now, no one can see you like Yeah, like Americans are very trained, brainwashed propaganda, whatever you wanna call it within America to think that it's only America and that number one.

spk_0:   11:27
Yeah, I thought when I came to Asia that Asia was just like the whole thing. Like one package. This is Asia and living in Hawaii, you have a lot of Asian cultures, cultural influences like there's a There's a lot of Japanese and Chinese and Filipino, um, a lot of other cultures as well, so because everything has kind of mashed up there. I just thought, like Asia is one whole thing, and then I got here and I was like, Whoa, there's a lot of different stuff going on here. Like even even within Indonesia and our first stop. Balinese Indonesians and job in Javanese Indonesians are completely different in every way. Their food, the way they look, their their music, their like, traditional costume their religion, like everything is completely different dialects in the way they talked and then to travel throughout Southeast Asia and see it time and time and time again. I mean, of course, eventually, like, I started to appreciate the differences and notice the differences. And I like I love to see to meet new people and think like, Oh, I wonder where they're from and try to guess. Um, but yeah, that was a huge like like mine blow for me. Like a minute. They're not all the same at all, Not even close. Vietnam is still a place all his own. Vietnam is completely different. And all of those other cultures, all those other cultures, all of those

spk_1:   13:10
other countries. And I love it. Yeah, I mean, it's such a unique place on. I spoke to someone about this recently about how Vietnam is just Your people can lump in Asia as one, and then you come here and you knew you left very quickly. It's all different. Vietnam was very different. So how long were you away in total before you got to be now

spk_0:   13:33
about eight and 1/2 months.

spk_1:   13:35
Well, what were your kids doing for schooling them?

spk_0:   13:38
Mike is unschooled, which is very interesting. Unschooled. It's different than home schooling. Home schooling generally is school at home, so you still have textbooks used to have tests. You still have benchmarks that you need to meet and all of that to varying degrees. You do have a lot more flexibility than you do in the public school system, but it's still basically school at home, and some people even structure it like school. So there's no set times for math and set times for reading. But we didn't do that. We unschooled. So I have a bachelor's degree in elementary education. I taught pre K first grade pre K kindergarten and first grade for three and 1/2 years, and then I substitute taught from kindergarten all the way through high school for about another year and 1/2. Um, so I got to see, and before I became a teacher, I worked in the after school programmes with kindergarten through fifth grade for 789 years or so like a pretty long time. So I got to experience the educational system on the spectrum and see it go through so many changes and so many curriculums and all of that. The thing that is, in my opinion, problematic about the school system, though, is there is a large emphasis on testing, and it's just preparing for the test and getting ready for the next test and reflecting on the last test that we took. And we're about to take another test. But the kids don't learn real world applications for the information that they're learning. They're not learning it in a way that helps them retain that information. And if you don't, if you're not a person who has a great memory, was very good at, you know, rote learning fax. Who's not a person if you're not a person who can sit for hours at a time and really focus, and I'm not that person I was when I was in school, you know, I was valedictorian and all that stuff which matters nothing in your adult life. But if you're not that kid and school becomes very difficult for you and what is the point of education anyway, Point of education is to give you information and knowledge and skills that you can take into your adult life and beyond. Children should be practising for adulthood, in my opinion. So I did a bunch of research on it. It's not just like it was just like we're gonna be hippies out in the world and not caring about anything. It wasn't like that. I did a lot of research on him. I looked at a bunch of different models and looked at, um, the cost of Tate having textbooks and things like that. When we left, I really wanted to go minimalist and green. So textbooks were out of the question, and carrying around a bunch of paper was not a thing. Um, but I came across this philosophy of unschooling, which I explained to people as the way adults learn. If you want to know something, you go on researching you google it, you find a class, you've gone, talk to an expert, you figure it out. And that's how my kids learn. Whatever they were interested in, we went and talked to someone. We researched it. We found people who knew what that was about, and they took classes or they did, you know, like little apprenticeships or we did online stuff. Um, it was much more meaningful, and we didn't waste a lot of time doing things that are unnecessary. I am still in my adult life, waiting to use the circumference of a circle that's taking up space in my brain, and I never have to use that information. My deal with my kids, though, is that I want them to have a childhood that they don't have to unlearn. I want them to start pursuing their dreams and their interests now and spend their time doing that. If you're going to be an engineer, you can learn those math formulas. Google is this thing that has all of the information. It's really cool. You guys should cheque it out. It's for free. I didn't have to spend $60,000 a student learn dad to learn that information, so my kid wants to be an engineer. If he decides that's what he wants to do when he grows up, fine, he can learn that information later. Right now, the information that is more important in my opinion, is learning how to talk to people on a humane level, learning how to manage your finances on a basic level, learning how to get through immigration without problems, knowing the exchange rates of different countries. And those practical skills translate to other things that we have to learn in school. For example, if you know how to how to calculate the exchange rates of different countries, that is multiplication in addition, at a very high level, actually, uh, who struggle with seriously on DH. That's what people don't realise is that we are learning all of the time. If you were paying attention and so this way of schooling unschooling was required more thought on my part on the day to day, I did have to ask those questions. I did have to be more patient with them and allow them to explore it. You know, by themselves it's not a free flow like it's not a free for all sort of thing. I did require them to do reading whatever you want, but you have to read every single day. It did have to write every single day about whatever they want. Um, and they had, you know, different things that they needed to do the really cool part about it. Wass All of the cool people that I know would give them classes like my daughter is really in the art. So she got a class from Adam Pomatter. Got a class with Mariano. Um, Guillermo, I hope I'm saying your name right? She got a class from a traditional ballad. He's artist when we were in Bali and and I've run into these people and, you know, I'm able to give her those experiences. If that's what you're into, let's explore that my son is really into animals. I'm an animal sciences. So I got You know, every time you go to like a sanctuary or something like that, you can pay a little extra toe, have the, like, personal guy that you can ask questions stuff, and that is the best thing I've ever found out because my son asked me a 1,000,000,000 questions a day about animals, and I'm like Google it. And now there's this person that I've paid to answer all of those questions for him. It feels really posh. Okay, it feels really nice. Like hire a person to be like your personal tutor for your kids. But also, he could talk to them for two hours and I didn't have to. That was great.

spk_1:   21:19
And so what did your kid's dad think of this? And how did he handle you teaching them away for eight months?

spk_0:   21:24
So unfortunately for about five years, my kid's dad had zero contact with us about two years before we laugh. And, um, all the way up until, um, December of 2018. So the good thing about that, I mean, that's obviously not ideal. Um, we just had a complete breakdown of communication in our relationship, and he was doing his thing and I was doing mine. And in the long run, it actually was a good thing. Um, the best part about it from my perspective, when it was happening wass I didn't need to ask anyone's permission to do anything with my kids. I just couldn't go and do and see. And I didn't need anyone's approval or disapproval. Um, and now that he's, he's back in their lives and my kids are with him now, Um, he thinks that it's super hole and actually has sort of inspired him to travel themselves, and there's plans for them to come out here. And it's a really good situation right now. But he thinks the super cool for

spk_1:   22:48
the regular school, No back and why they

spk_0:   22:51
are handling

spk_1:   22:53
that they

spk_0:   22:53
don't love e. I want to

spk_1:   22:58
be in Bali getting by traditional Balinese teacher. I'm not

spk_0:   23:02
in this. Yeah, um, they they learn so many skills. I didn't realise they were learning. My kids are super independent. They just go and do whatever they want. And, you know, if your schooling at home, you don't have to ask the teacher's permission to go to the bathroom. And you know, if you feel hungry, you just go and make yourself something to eat. So they don't love that part about school there like there's so many rules and they have to get up so early and we have to be there all day. They don't let us take naps, and I can't watch TV so they don't I mean, they have the same complaints that every kid has about school. Um, the good thing about it, though, wass all of the people that were like, You have no idea what you're doing. Your kids should be in school and you're ruining their lives and you're messing them up. They went back and they dropped back into school and they are fine. My kid, my older one is going to AP classes now, more advanced level classes. I'm what they call them in intermediate school. She's going to advanced level classes, which which, in her opinion or bullshit, she's like, This is stupid. I don't know why I need to, like, work harder at school when this isn't even what I want to D'oh! So I've given them sort of. I made them kind of into those kids who are the teacher's worst nightmare because they're like, Why do I need to notice? I'm never gonna use this. But on the other hand, there are very capable on schooling does work. Actually, if you do it well, kids can learn they're capable of learning pretty much by themselves. I mean, with guidance. But they don't need the structure of school, and you don't need to spend so much time learning stuff that you're never ever gonna use. If that's not your passion and that's not your goal in life, you really don't need it. And I'm the biggest supporter of not going to college, which is very controversial in my family. I was the first person in my family to go to college, and I have a degree that is costing me still $60,000. Ah, and I will never use it again in my life. I'm pretty

spk_1:   25:22
sure there's a lot of structures our deity that haven't caught up with society, right? You mentioned before about you two bills and sitting in school for however many hours a day in a classroom doing a job Monday, afraid to 59 to 5. Why do we need to be a job for a rolls like Monday? Afraid it like It's just so strange. I don't know when we're catching up. You know those larger reports now about companies moving two for the week and things like that, which I think we're going to move slowly Ingley unschooling or Monte Siri's Montessori monster storeys storeys, Um, but anything. Most things are just changing too slowly, right with these models are just so I ate it and don't reflect current society thinking technology, and I don't really know where I'm going with that. Agreed. You know So that's what your kids are feeling right now. I guess

spk_0:   26:21
they feel, um I mean, the hardest part about it is being away from them. I had my kids with me or 11 and 1/2 years every single day of their lives. Almost. I put them to bed. I said them, bathe them. I watched them grow up, and I got to experience those things by myself. I have those memories by myself. Unfortunately, their dad missed. You know, a good chunk of that. So And my, you know, my grandmother and my other family, they missed chunks of it as well because we were out here by themselves, by ourselves in a way that does seem a bit selfish. Um, the other side of it is, I gave them these experiences that are amazing. And to have done it I've been told to have done it as a single parent is somehow amazing. It's really not that hard people, but somehow it's amazing. I think it's just more of setting your mind set to do it.

spk_1:   27:24
They've been back in America for 10 months now, and you haven't seen them since then.

spk_0:   27:28
Have you have? Yeah, I went back in August and I was there for three weeks. Um, it was nice seeing them. It was weird being on the other side of it, like being a visitor in their lives was really weird. You know, having to scheduled my visits with them around their activities was really weird.

spk_1:   27:55
How was it not being away from your kid?

spk_0:   27:58
It's not right. It's good. I have I have this freedom that I've never had in my whole entire life. I've never I have never lived in by myself, ever, ever in my life. I was with my, you know, living with my mom and my brother and stuff. And then I had a roommate in college. And then I have my kids and and now I have remains. I've never lived by myself, ever say for, like, a couple of months here in there. But I do have, like, adult remains now, and we do adult things, and that's interesting, but I don't get to talk to them as often as I would because of the time difference. I don't get to see their day to day lives. I'm not, you know, a big part of that as Muchas. I had been in the past being a mom. They're so many ideas and people have so many, so many things that this is what a mom means. And I've never been that kind of mom anyway. Like, I've never been the Pinterest mom. I've never been the lady who, like, bakes cookies. And and to be really honest, I've never been the type of mom who's wanted to be around my kids 24 7 like they need their time. I mean my time. I'm okay with my kids, spending time with other people, and I think it's actually really necessary. They need other perspectives in just mind to be world rounded people. But now to have sent my kids back to their dad. I had them every day for 11 and 1/2 years, and he lost contact for five years, so somehow is acceptable that Mom is taking care of the kids and the data is not. That's fine, but when it's the other way around and I'm I'm not like zero contact with my kids. Of course I see them and I talked to them and you know we have conversations or whatever, but because I am not there 24 7 with is somehow I'm a bad mom. Hey, this 10 month period has completely negated in a lot of people's minds everything that I've done the last 11 and 1/2 years. I can't have a career because I'm a mom. I can't travel because I am a mom. I can't spend my money. I can't have dreams and hopes and goals because I am a mom and it is completely unfair and unjust. Why can't also their dad take care of them? Why can't he be a nurturer? Why can't he spend most of the time with them? And I get Teo do the summers in the weekend's thing like Why? So that's been a real point of contention with people in my family and some friends, Um, and I've basically had to be like, This is my life. I love my kids and I know what I'm doing. And I know that I've invested time and energy into them, and it's okay, and that is a huge lesson for me to be learning right now because what I want to do with my career, honestly, they can't be there for that they can be up and going and travelling. You know, sometimes I'm gone for six weeks at a time. That's not okay. Like they can't do that with me and they can't be in the bars and, you know, in the clubs and stuff like that. So for them to be able to reconnect with their dad right now and have that stability, you know that he just bottled in house and all of that stuff for them to have that experience is really good for them. And at the end of the day, it's like I could listen to what other people think about me and do that, and I could be miserable. Or I could live my life in a way that makes me happy and blissful in a way that's healthy and supported for my kids and pretty much tell everybody else if you I'm gonna live my life the way I want Teo and that's that's what I'm doing. It's working really well.

spk_1:   32:24
Well, that leads into one of my major questions. I wanted to ask you, Um, I'm watching you stand up. Many people have the perception. I know we've told for this previously have the perception that you hate your kids because you see, when you're on stage that you hate your kids. Now I've seen you do that. Stand up, and it can be confronting. You can watch it. And some of the storeys you tell you cannot leave. Oh, that don't sound like a good mom right now. And I know you're doing that on purpose, and we're not doing it like you by mistake. But how does that I know you love your kids and honestly, we just heard you talk about how much you love your kids, and so that's obvious. But how do you then reconcile that with this onstage persona that you've got that? And I know you've told me in the past, and I know people have said to me that puts them off because they think like, Oh, she's a shitty mom. How, like, how do you reconcile that? They're

spk_0:   33:14
just jokes, people. It's just jokes. That's that's kind of going back to what I was just saying about. It's all right for Dad to be that way, but it's not okay for Mom to be that way. And a lot of my comedy is confrontational. in your face. It makes people think I know what I look like when I walk on stage. It's all planned and calculated. I know what I look like when I walk on stage. One of the things that that people said to me like a long time ago when I just started comedy was You can't be cute and on stage you can't look like very feminine and the other stage people won't take you seriously. OK, let's deconstruct that You can't be, you know, a cookie cutter mom until these jokes about your kids and everybody is gonna be okay with it. Okay, let's confront that in Deconstructing because the reality of the situation is most parents have moments with their Children almost daily. When they do not like that, they're awful little people, sometimes within mani groups and with other parents. We talk about those things and event to them, and you love your kids. You really do. You're not neglect, for I'm not a neglectful parent, and you know I don't. I don't hit my kids and things like that. But you do have these moments and you have them with your job and you have them with your spouse and you have them with your job.

spk_1:   34:47
You take a moment which is based in reality. On stage, you make an absolute and I guess then when someone's listening to that and you're describing it as an absolutely thing Oh, she's a

spk_0:   35:00
terrible mom. Absolutely people. People can have a perception of me, but you don't know me. You don't know what I'm doing really, in my real life. And if you're stupid enough to believe that the things that fall out of my mouth on stage are absolute truth and we have bigger problems than whether I'm a bad mom or not.

spk_1:   35:22
Well, I want you to clear something up for me because maybe I'm one of these people. I hope to God this is not true. But one of your big talk about when you dig drugs, come home for a run. Come back when your kids are holding us, You know that is you. Okay? Good. But

spk_0:   35:40
I'm not sure, you know, I'm pretty

spk_1:   35:42
sure like naming names. That's probably not true. But then you like. But maybe it is. And then if that is true, then yes, she's a shitty mom. Yeah,

spk_0:   35:49
No, my jokes were based in reality, right? But that might work. Comedic mind changes them into something else. Because if I just stood up on stage and told you storeys about my life, they wouldn't be very funny my day to day, you know, as a mom or as a teacher. Or, as you know, just a person walking around Saigon. It's really not that interesting. That is the art of comedy, right? You take something that is mundane for most people, and you see it in a weird way and you add some stuff to it. And now it's a hole. It's a whole five minutes. And that bit that you're talking about, where I took some drugs and on DH. Then I go and see my like I don't do that. I don't take drugs and go see my kids do my drugs in private when they have a baby like a good mom.

spk_1:   36:45
Yeah. No, because, you know, obviously we both know Take a first ever guest on seven million byte and he hates it because I specially when I first met you all I kept asking after every show was like, Did that really happen? that a true storey. I don't ask any more thing. A bugged enough comedians asking. But the thing is nine out of 10 times they will see. You know that's a completely storey. So that's when you do that. A storey like that once Did you think it's probably not true? A lot of comedians storeys are true, so I think that maybe the why people do watch maybe would take it at face value.

spk_0:   37:24
For me personally, comedy is my jokes are probably 75 per cent. True, those things are based in reality. They have happened. They are experiences in my own life, but every every person's reality. What we perceive as reality is coloured by how you react to things and other people's reactions to it. And, um, you know, like like your memories of your past experiences, and it all sort of mixes together into this weird soup of reality. And then every time you retell that storey, it changes a little bit. Is there something else that's inserted in there that actually may not have happened on DSO? The art of comedy is is being able to orchestrate those changes to say that's a bit too much. Actually, that really did happen. But that's a bit too much. People don't know about you, Um, or that didn't happen at all. But let's say that because that's gonna pull a big laugh. Um, and like for me here, I do comedy a lot for people who don't have Children. So I understand that they're like a very different

spk_1:   38:45
audience here, right? Could you do this when we we don't have the married couple? I mean, you know, most shows me and Adrian were the only married couple there. You've made references to like, you guys like that one, the married couple. But, yes, we're very different to what you may be having the America of Scotland, where you have maybe more broader audience. Where is here? Mostly single are unmarried people between 20 and 35. Coming to shoes, right?

spk_0:   39:13
Yeah. So for all of you judgmental people without Children, you think that I'm a horrible mother, and then I do things to my Children that are inhumane and wrong, And I get because you have no idea what the hell of parenting is. And you've had to see this half, have a had a guy come up to me once and he was like So how does it feel to be known as a bad mom and Saigon? And I was just like, Dude, are you serious? Right now? Um, on the other side of that, I've done those same jokes for people with Children, and they die because we've all had those thoughts. You have that thought just like very good. I don't I don't want to hurt you, but if I did, this is the way that I would do it e mean if you want. If people have this idealistic view of Children, I was being these, like innocent little creatures who were just eat all these special little beings and their gift from God and whatever they poop and then eat all of your food and they contribute nothing to your life except for an occasional smile. But mostly they just bitch and moan about a lot of stuff that they can't control it all. It's cool. They have No, it's not cool. They have no control over their emotions. And it's your job to take that like bag of cells and make them into a fully formed, functional, productive human which is a humongous responsibility. And if you think that God at one point doesn't look down on us and think, No, maybe not. You don't know what parenting is about. I love

spk_1:   40:58
that you get the big laughs if you do a crowd of cheering tray or even of the same period. Because, of course, it's so different for them because what you're seeing there people, really when you're doing this to an audience in Saigon, that demographic that I just described, they have no connexion to that. And then so the human you see doing as peace value, maybe, and then that's gonna be the reaction. Maybe you needed to see more of. You

spk_0:   41:21
know, I think I think that most people are bright enough to get it, and I think that those few people who are offended by what I say are those few people who are offended by either. They're just so sheltered and close minded that they can't distinguish reality versus joke, or they're so idealistic that they can't see that. Of course I don't wantto hurt my Children. I don't wanna do that. And to be fair, those people will never know me as a person. They see me on stage for 5 to 15 minutes or whatever, and they form their opinion about about me as a person and I don't care. I will never see those people again. Um, do not pay my bills. They're not gonna baby sit my horrible Children. So, you know, whatever. It doesn't matter to me at all. I would say it's like if you've ever created a relationship, and I guess most adults can relate to this. If you've ever been in a relationship with somebody and it's going south, it's going sour and you have those thoughts about leg you may be. May may not ever say them out loud, but you have those thoughts about like if they were just not breathing anymore, this would be a lot easier. Parenting is that every day I think it's important to talk about parenting in a riel real life basis, and parents other parents do resonate with. And once you've gone through that experience, you know, resonate with that on, you know, varying degrees and levels. Um, but I do think it's important to talk about it, talk about it with people who don't have Children because they do have this, like idea that, like parenting is great all the time. It's not. It is hard and you don't get paid for it. And there are no vacation days. You can't take time off. You could have the flu, and your kid will be like, Why are you vomiting? I'm hungry. Uh, it doesn't go away, but I mean rewarding and it's great. And when you see it puts your life in perspective.

spk_1:   43:50
So the other big part about your comedy when you're not talking about being a terrible mom Hey, that is right. Thanks, Tio. 61 with Angie the Diva. We've got Part two coming up next week, so make sure you look out for that. Make sure you've subscribed to the podcast. Whatever you listen, you can get your podcast on the Web site. Seven million bake dot com are on Google podcast Apple podcasts Picture Spotify pretty much anywhere. Thanks for listening. I really hope you enjoyed that episode and you're looking forward to Part two next week, as always, Thanks to lose right. But composing the theme tune for the episode, which, as I've said before, gets more positive feedback than the podcast itself So thank you to lose for making an unbelievable piece of music. And also thanks to lay in win for helping me design the cover up that you can see everywhere. Most of all thank you for listening over. You're enjoying the show and I hope you can I hope you can listen again next week gaols.