Angee the Diva; Part 2 - Comedy, sex and sexuality | S2 Ep 6

Angee the Diva is an American comedian based in Saigon, Vietnam.

She was a 2019 finalist in the Vietnam Comedy Competition and has been a headlining gigs around Vietnam and South East Asia since 2017, as a solo comedian and as half of the comedy duo, “Stand Up for the Queens”. She has headlined solo in Canada and USA, as well. This mother of two, writer, event planner, and boss as bitch will leave you in stitches with her raunchy yet relatable comedic stories!

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Transcript

spk_1:   0:13
thanks for listening to Part two of Episode six with Angie the Diva. In the previous episode, we talked about Angie being a comedian with kids, what it's like to be a mother and make jokes about that. So I hope you enjoyed that episode. If you listen to. If you haven't feel free to go back or you can continue listening, that's alright. Part two coming up. Now we're gonna talk about comedy, sex and sexuality. Enjoy way to make that part of your act on. Then how has that affected, You know, kind of like testing relationship things like that. Like in that offstage for soon onstage persona does that. People expect one thing that you've described on stage and then

spk_0:   1:04
my my on stage persona. First of all, my on stage persona is not that far removed from my real life persona. It's not, um, I do. I definitely do not tell my Children I hate them to their face. That would be bad. Bobby. No, Make his No, I love them and I do not at all let my kids listen to my comedy. I do not want a garden for life, but what about

spk_1:   1:33
when the older and they mean

spk_0:   1:34
when they're older, it will happen. And, well, you know what? They'll be adults, and we'll be having a conversation about why you should wait to have kids. Because you guys you caused this. Yeah. I mean, they will eventually hear it, but I hope that my kids know and understand that I love them and it's just jokes. My son. Actually, I think he might be a comedian one day. His comedic timing is ridiculous. He understands sarcasm. He has since a very, very young age. So he's a prankster, and he's hilarious. I could totally see him. Well,

spk_1:   2:14
I think the ultimate will be when he starts to do jokes about his mom. Yeah, you're gonna be like, Oh, I forgot what

spk_0:   2:23
the question was s

spk_1:   2:25
so well, the question was about six. You described yourself as the pan sexual on non monogamous, and recently we had a conversation sure, awhile ago and you described yourself to me queer. And I feel the way you said I thought, You mean people like recently chemo is queer? Is that something that's always been the case?

spk_0:   2:44
So, um, onstage and offstage, not that different of course, my on stage persona is a bit more dramatic, Um, a bit more embellished in my day to day, but they're really not that different. Um, so a lot of the sex storeys actually are true. And what people believe that they are, they are slightly embellishes well, but they're all rooted in truth. So, um, that happens. And as a comedian, I do a lot of things. I put myself in a lot of situations or the storey. So that's it's kind of a casualty of dating me.

spk_1:   3:36
Does that make you vulnerable offstage? Because I saw another comedian who is also talks a lot about sex or age. And she posted something where there was somebody who held her on stage, but a bit too familiar bit to Hanzee because I think he thought he could do that because of what? The way she'd spoken on stage. Have you ever had that happen to you?

spk_0:   3:58
My own stage persona gets me laid a lot. I'm not sad about that. Um, being a female, you have as a woman, you're in a position generally of unfortunately being subject to the patriarchy period. Wait. Have an existence where still men can do and say things that are inappropriate in isolation. But because I've said something on stage or because I've warned something, they somehow in their mind can justify treating me like less than human. That happens, period. What I do with that is up to me now. I could get angry with them, and sometimes I do

spk_1:   5:05
what would be an example,

spk_0:   5:07
Uh, black girl fetish as a black girl in Asia, I am a unicorn. There are not a lot of us around, and I encounter a lot of guys. You are? Oh, my God. I've never slept with a black girl before. That really happened. I kind of like, I read this

spk_1:   5:31
thing stuff on the Internet, but they really say that they

spk_0:   5:34
really dio they really think a pick up line like they expect

spk_1:   5:37
you to them. Billy. Okay, I'll be that girl. And I have no idea what they

spk_0:   5:41
expect. That has never been my reaction. Um, so So I deal with that? The the worst it's ever been, though. A guy clearly with the black oh, fetish. He was saying things and I was like, You know what, guy you don't need to say that? It's really weird. It's kind of off putting. I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt. Maybe you're ignorant. Maybe you've never experienced by people before. Whatever. Whatever. Uh, let's not. And then he goes on in. His next comment is I'm really into history. And I wonder if your family were house or field. Negro pes What, like, where do we go from there? How did you expect this conversation? So that is something that how did you react to that? I was on tender. I just blocked him, and I wasn't actually actually a screenshot it. And I put it on the female. Expect page warm of one of the people that this was going on and actually kind of hoping that somebody might have known him. Yeah, but it is something that you have to do with and And when I get on stage and I say things, I know that it's not gonna agree with everyone. I'm okay with that. I don't need everyone to like me, but as a person, as a human, as a woman, as Angie, you will respect me. And when I get off of stage, you can say whatever you want to, but you need to be prepared for whatever. I'm going to san response if you are gross and skeevy guy, and you want to say some gross and skeevy thing to me when I get off stage, if I'm in a mood, it may not end well for you, but that is that's my own power. And it has nothing to do with my on stage or off stage persona are my on stage persona. It has everything to do with my offstage persona. I am strong, powerful, and I do not have to take your crap. I don't have to listen to you talk to me anyway, and that has nothing that part of it. Grossness of humans sometimes has nothing to do with what I see on stage. It has nothing to do with what I wear. Are you know where I'm from or anything it has to do with a lack of education and complete ignorance. Unfortunately, still, in the vast majority of cultures around the world, men and a lot of places think that women are just objects for their pleasure and you can say and do whatever you want with them and it's not okay. And on the other hand, if I am a highly sexual being and I'm not a whore because I want to entertain some of the some of the guys or whatever, I don't have to be your wife. And we don't have to be in a relationship for me to get my rocks off and you can go home after, Thank you very much,

spk_1:   9:01
So I'm a bit one fashioned. I can't keep up with all these terms. What is pansy cuming?

spk_0:   9:05
So I am a female. Biologically, I identify as female. I am attracted to people. It doesn't matter if you identify as male or female or or CIS gendered or non binary, or if you are a drag queen or your trends, or however you identify. I can still be attracted to you, Um, and I don't care about what label or box you want to be in.

spk_1:   9:40
All right, and this is, I feel like very seven now feel was a generational lane being drawn be like because it just grew up like it's a different era. Currently, I'm

spk_0:   9:55
gonna be 36. So if I don't think it is so much a generational line. I think it is evolving definition. But

spk_1:   10:05
I grew up with all these. I didn't

spk_0:   10:07
even more now, and I

spk_1:   10:08
know you didn't have in this image. And so now that these things are being, I feel almost like when my grandparents would have been younger, like being home a four week would have been completely normal. And then some point, we realised that that's no okay. And it changed. And I feel like I'm on that. I know that I'm phobic to any of these people, but I grew up in a binary or road. Yeah, no, something like, Well, it was non binary and and sexual and this. And I mean, even then it was a homosexual, then by sick Children. And now it's the whole spectrum. I mean, if you will about, like, I need to evolve with that, understand that more.

spk_0:   10:47
It is a point of understanding the pin sexual thing. Actually, as as an identity is new for me, I did generally identify as bisexual or, uh, my whole adult life. Um, I think I realised, actually realise that I liked women first on DH. Then, as I grew older and, you know, hit puberty and everything I was like, OK, well, it's more normal to like Ben, which I don't dislike. They're fine. Um, but like going to college, I identified his bisexual, but I didn't like the fetishization of that. Um, when When I did. Because most people know what bisexual means, and it stopped the question right. You say you're bisexual and they're like, OK, it is a female. I can say that. And it's like, Okay, as a male being bisexual, that's a whole different thing. Um, but as I grew and as I allow myself to be more open, I found that I was attracted to other people and because I came in contact with these people and then you start to think, Well, what does that mean? What does that make me m m my bisexual? If this person doesn't identify as a binary individual, What is that like a my gay? Am I straight? And where is it going? Um, so a friend of mine, uh, she identified his pants, actually, and she, you know, told me about it. And then I did some research on my own. I was like, Okay, that's That's a new word. but But I can use that as well. And it is gaining traction. And I do part of my my, I guess like involving mission is too wrong. More awareness to, um, the spectrum of clear. So a lot of people in in our generation and older to think of people as just gay or straight there isn't really any in between and then buy essentials like Okay, But you're confused, right? Like you or your greedy. You just want all this stuff. Um, So I think it's really important for me to be out and, um visible because I do represent a demographic that is not often represented in the queer community or in not in the Queer Community but in the media as faras. What here is it's not represented very often. What is the

spk_1:   13:43
definition of? Well, see, I'm even. This is a few old fashioned cause. I don't even like, really understand. I

spk_0:   13:49
think in my opinion and queers like that term that sort of floats around. In my opinion, queer is the sort of umbrella turn for air. For all of the alphabet. Letter people wait, we have the LGBT Q. What's the I I don't know asking

spk_1:   14:14
this question, but I saw it come up today or yesterday. It was another

spk_0:   14:18
life e u T u IThe plus x y z plus it. I have no idea, but queer sort of encompasses all of those people, so it sort of feels like umbrella term for that. It is also a term that you can say that you are without specifically identifying where on that. And so it leaves a bit of wiggle room for people who are involving. And you're not comfortable saying I am this right now or a lot of people that I know within the community have evolved. They have changed. They were into this at one point, and now they're into something else. And so it it allows you that flexibility to say I'm a human who's evolving and changing, exploring who I am. Um, I really feel sad for straight people because they often times don't allow themselves of flexibility. Teo, explore those things. I mean, pleasure is something that's like a drug to me. Often you do get that sort of poor feeling about things about about that experience, and I can't imagine not allowing myself to experience so many things. Just because I've sort of caged myself into a box of

spk_1:   15:49
this is this is who I am. Well, I was talking to a friend recently. We were having lunch on a Q ship, the Eva's queer, and I didn't know that. And it's funny because so it's a spectrum right, and we accept that I am Street and I'm on the far end of that. If he was well due to say that, like to be like it almost feels like I'm this strange person that because I'm like, I'm I'm on that And I'm not saying that's a good, bad, indifferent forever. It's just we have to be like I'm gonna be my end of the year when there's a whole

spk_0:   16:24
spectrum. I kind of think of it as like when kids, uh, when you're trying to introduce new vegetables, the kids and they see the broccoli and they're like, I don't like broccoli. It's like but you've never tried. Barkley. How do you know you don't like Barkley? I don't like it because it's green and I get it. You're like, you're like, I don't like dicks.

spk_1:   16:45
I need to trust me. I e do loathe, Um, it's you that I feel again 37. This whole generation is changing the world's changing. None of this existed when we were going up. Everything even, well, interesting. Talking about queer was derogatory. Well, right now that's against in re clean, which is

spk_0:   17:14
it's just all it's all about growth and solid. I mean, whether whether they identify as queer or straight or gay or straight or, you know, whatever label, I think all people need to allow themselves the room to grow what you're into right now, you're not gonna be into in 10 years. Even even in a straight monogamous relationship, you have to evolve as a couple. You have to evolve. This is individual people in order for you to stay happy and together Mean, I think this statistic on on generally a career is about 10 years, about about 7 10 years, which is the same for marriage. About 7 to 10 years. You start to feel like I need to grow and change something. I don't like this. This is uncomfortable. Something needs to happen differently and, you know, really strong and great couples. They learn how to have their individuality and also developed together. But people who stopped doing that, that's where you where you find divorce. It's like, You know, I expect you to be this person that we were when we married 10 years ago and like with me, is they were 10 years ago like Who does that? 10 years ago I was 26. I had a newborn and a two year old and I was the lady walking around the grocery store with vomit on her shirt. And now I'm Angie and I'm a diva. I'm living inside on. I'm going to all of these fabulous events, and I'm getting paid to stand up on stage and say crazy stuff like not at all the same person and to expect people to stay the same is wrong in my and it's wrong and it just shows your lack of willingness to grow yourself to accommodate those changes. So it's not. I'm not saying like as a queer person on all the queer agenda, that I want everybody to be queer. That's not a thing, guys. I think he should be open to exploring new thing, different things and that you and your partner should be strong enough to explore those things, Whatever they may be for you, everybody has their boundaries. And I'm not saying that you need to put a place where it shouldn't be for you. That's fine. But, um, I do think to think that your way of being is the stated for everyone else, that's it.

spk_1:   20:09
And then why non monogamous? You'd never be in a monogamous relationship again.

spk_0:   20:15
I will never love. I will never in to be fair. When I was married, it wasn't exactly mine. Ominous either. It's just never been my thing. I'm not a jealous person. Um, I don't like to be like, tied down in, caged in. I don't want to be As much as I love attention, I like attention from lots of people. I don't want it from one singular person, things that I need to be there, like everything. Um, thank you. You know, not jokingly. You have to be happy with yourself. You have to be content with yourself. You have to have your own goals and ambitions and know what you want to do in life for yourself. And then when you meet someone who compliments that and that's a really nice loving and reciprocal relationship. But you're still both free to grow, uh, in your own way. And I think me personally, I find it very difficult to get everything that I need conversationally, emotionally, physically, um, you know, in any of those words, I find it very hard to get that from one person, and I think that it is Well, I think that it's unfair, Teo asked of all of that from one person. Um, I guess I guess when what I'm saying is like, You know how you have two best friends. You could have two best friends or you can have three kids or four kids or five kids. You can work to different jobs, and you can buy your attention to those equally, but in different ways. You can do the same in relationship. And if that's for you,

spk_1:   22:20
yeah, I was going to see because I think that people who don't believe that, but as long as two people together and don't believe that breath,

spk_0:   22:28
everybody has different needs. Everybody has different Ys, and my my needs are not the same as somebody who's in a very consensual and happy, monogamous relationship. It's just not my thing. Like more power to you. I think I think you and Adrian are the kindest couple I've ever seen in my life. Like you guys were so cute. And you clearly want to spend your time together and you're very supportive and like, you know, she gives you crap and you give it back and like, it's so cute and like, Why not? What? That she is not my deal. I like to sleep in my bed by myself. Sometimes on I like I like to taste the rainbow.

spk_1:   23:20
We'll just quickly because we have talked about a lot, so we don't need to go into too much detail. But on previous episodes, we've talked about the LGBT. Q. I by the community played you? How is that in Saigon? Because I think that's been quite surprising to me and maybe some of our listeners, and that is a really good community here, right? Oh, it's

spk_0:   23:40
beautiful. It's beautiful. I am part of a beautiful community with people on the whole entire spectrum of the whole alphabet. People, um, you

spk_1:   23:52
call yourselves out the alphabet,

spk_0:   23:53
I call them. I coined that phrase. I'm trademarking in alphabet people. It just It just sounds less offensive than LGBT eyes,

spk_1:   24:04
but he's such a motive. You get your mother to move So much for LGBT. Q. I don't know

spk_0:   24:09
if I can put that on a T shirt and trade market. I'm quitting at the alphabet. People, Um, the community in Saigon is beautiful. It's very inclusive. People on the whole entire spectrum come together and do things together. I C S is a fantastic community outreach programme organisation. They do a lot with the Vietnamese community as faras education and providing opportunities for people to come together and safe spaces. Gender funk has been into role in my experience here. Gender funk started about the same time that I got started with Saigon. Funny people. So the founder of that, Ricardo Carter, and I are pretty close. We have

spk_1:   25:04
got to be on this season.

spk_0:   25:11
Ricardo Ricardo was an amazing human who has done so much for the queer community inside on creating inclusive spaces that are just not that are not just for queer people but also draw in straight people, which, hells to dispel a lot of those stereotypes and phobias about what queer people are who they are. I want to go. I want to go

spk_1:   25:39
to gender Funk. But, um, I feel like I'm not going to be the awkward street person. I mean, I'm no any phobic, but I still feel like I'm going to be, like, just this. Not like I'm just gonna be this, like, awkward person. Like I don't know what to do. Absolutely of no being I gave up before and things like that. But think again. This is going back. I'm a bit older. And so it was a gay bar. It wasn't an LGBTQ I have in. It was just like another slapping. Only I feel like I'm gonna be Super Bowl. First

spk_0:   26:11
of all, no one's going to try to fuck you there. Don't know that. I looked up the

spk_1:   26:17
gender from Facebook page to see what people were wearing because I think I need to, like, way too many to dress fun, boy. And then luckily, I saw just people dressed normal. Okay, just call death. Normally, I felt like I had to get dressed up for it, you know, because I don't Obviously, some people do, so I will be there. I do want to go to, but wait. You see me awkwardly standing there? Come talk to me.

spk_0:   26:37
I will come and talk to you. Is doing something I think is very innovative in that, um I don't know, innovative, but inclusive. Radically inclusive. Maybe because they make events that are fun, period. It doesn't matter where you are in the spectrum, they are fun. And the performances are polished and of high quality. Um and say the performers, in fact, are very inclusive. S Oh, they are are drag queens, which are men who identify as men in most of their life. But dressed like women sometimes cans women. You are people who were born quote unquote, biologically male but identified his female bio queens which are women who are biological women and identify as female the address of his drag queens. Because drag is an art form right is it's the makeup is the hair. It's drama. It's the you know, the performance and all of that. So and Jennifer has also had straight male drag which are men or biological men, and on Lee sleep with women and dressing this email in drag. So the performers are inclusive and on a spectrum. Um, the the audience is on a full spectrum. Um, what the The thing that is the most fantastic about general funk parties and events is their tagline. You do you? So no matter where you are on the spectrum, no matter what you're into, no matter what your king, so your fetishes or how you identify or whatever, this is a safe space for you to express yourself how you want to if you want to dress up, if you don't also. Okay, if you wanna be an awkward, straight

spk_1:   29:03
white guy, you could be in a way, you can.

spk_0:   29:10
But it is consensual completely. It's very respectful. No one is going to force you to do something that you don't want to do. Um, and it's just fun. It's so much fun. I think it's one of the

spk_1:   29:26
amazing things boats I go on, and mostly through the podcast of Land it something that most people wouldn't expect. You think of Vietnam in whatever with the war. Most people with the country they think about you think about think about it being a poor country. They don't think about it being particularly probably like most would you be a cure friendly community. And here in Saigon, definitely. It is a testament to Saigon, right?

spk_0:   30:01
Yeah, I got it. In my mind, Saigon is like, in this time warp of space and time. Like for me, it has been a like a mixture of people and places and events and opportunities that are just growing just bubbling at the surface. And they have the potential to be amazing and to be on the ground level of that and see people grow over the last two years and to see their potential of where the N b and the city, the city on a hole is like that, like the construction is just like every time I leave here, I come back and I'm just like, Where is this whole neighbourhood come from? What is going on right now? The whole city is like that. It's just growing. And there's so much potential. And there's so much passion within individuals to do something and make something. And thankfully, ah, country itself is not very restrictive on allowing you to do that. Saigon is a very special place in that. If you have the ambition and the willpower to do whatever it is that you

spk_1:   31:25
want to do, you can do it. So we're gonna finish up now at this point with the same questions that I asked everybody. The first question is what they you drive And how do you deal with Saigon taffy? I

spk_0:   31:38
drive a Honda, something or other. I have no idea what it is. I am that person who has rented a bike or three years, Yes, throwing money away. I don't know. There's throwing money away. I think about it as my insurance policy because I've changed my bike probably four times. Um, whenever I get a flat tyre or the oil needs to be changed or anything needs to happen with the bike, I don't have to deal with it at all. On that is that convenes that I paid for

spk_1:   32:09
Easy. It is to do that. So

spk_0:   32:11
I'm fine. I'm okay with the movie in a month, right? I feel like it is a 1,000,000 won. I feel like it's stimulating the economy and also I really like that every time I go see my bike guy, he's standing out there with a smile and his shirt off, and he looks really cute. It's fine. I'm here for

spk_1:   32:30
all right. Well, um, it's my Scottish nous coming through, but I'm like, you know, you can't spend money like that. I

spk_0:   32:38
am okay with paying for the convenience of living in Vietnam. I love it like it's a park for me. When I go into people's apartments and they don't have a maid, I'm just like, What are you doing? You're wasting your time in Saigon. It is one of the best parts about living here. So I do. I do pay for that convenience and side on traffic. I deal with it with my headphones on, and I drive thru traffic, singing loudly and waving to the people near me. And sometimes I get really frustrated with the fact that Saigon traffic does not work like anywhere else on the planet. And recently I've been yelling at people in traffic. I've just been like, Wait your turn traffic right now because no one wants to wait their turn. Everybody can't go all at the same time. And you just observe the red wife Just a little. We can all get there in a timely fashion. You're saving three seconds sometimes by shooting ahead of traffic. But most often you are wasting 10 minutes of my life causing this traffic jam because you just wouldn't wait. You're breaking turn.

spk_1:   33:56
Who was that guy yesterday that dangerously under to cause spend buyers. He was pulling in 10 metres ahead. Why did you need to do that? You just

spk_0:   34:08
Yeah, I have this theory that Asians are not bad drivers but that their system is so unlike any Western country. We don't understand it. To be fair, I very rarely see a kn accident in Saigon like a bad one.

spk_1:   34:26
Incredible. I don't know. Colony John. Every calma. Yeah, fantastic rivals is just It's insane.

spk_0:   34:33
It's chaos. I've

spk_1:   34:34
heard that India is the only country that crazy being I've no bean. And

spk_0:   34:39
I learned to drive in Bali, which was also chaos. Um, but the guy who rented my first right from told me maybe the most profound thing I've ever heard. He said, It's like a school of fish. Stay in the middle of the

spk_1:   34:55
school and you'll be fine. I like that. And what is the hardest thing you've seen on Obey?

spk_0:   35:03
I've seen some pretty crazy stuff on a bike. Really crazy stuff, baby. Um, the guys who carry like the popcorn and bags of chips and things and they stack them up so high and like is really like a like an 18 wheeler truck length wise, and they just sit through traffic with all of that stuff on their bike. It's amazing.

spk_1:   35:31
It must weigh like nothing because it's always all right. But it's It's

spk_0:   35:34
like like just the visual of it is ridiculous, like how you have all these things stacked on mean? Besides, like the six person family on one motorbike, six person family on one motorbike is drowning. To me, that's just like, Wow, I also like the guys who carry the fish cause I think that's really heavy, actually, with water and everything in the bags and and they carry, you know, all these goldfish and is stacked so high. The most dangerous thing I think I've seen and maybe this is just my American sensibilities are the guys who carry around the propane tanks like dragging them behind their bite. Fiji's

spk_1:   36:20
worst nightmare. She's terrified when she sees them blow up.

spk_0:   36:23
A moment has happened.

spk_1:   36:25
I have a couple of years ago, someone drew drew into the back of one. And WeII. If we see one of them and we don't have a ages, like go around and passed, you're 24 hours. No kids, no comedy, no event planning, no nothing. What do you do with 24 rebels? Inside? Go on.

spk_0:   36:43
There's a pinch myself. It does not happen. It's a dream. I was probably half of the time, like solid 12 sleep with the aid of their necks, and then I would get up, and I like to find green spaces in Saigon. There's a really nice park, which I cannot remember the name of it in District 10 their eyes through been quashed. Inquiry. It's like the river, and it is nice trees and grain, and it's quiet. I think they have, like, buffet dinners or something there. But during the day, it's just a lovely place to walk around and get outside of the city. It's maybe 20 minutes outside of D, too, So it's not really that far with Dr I do that, and, uh, because in the like in the nightlife so often I probably would avoid that situation. I would go to dinner by myself with No one that I knew in a restaurant that no one knows me. No one's asking to, like, talk to me or take pictures. Um, I would have a glass or two of wine, but not be drug, because that's fun sometimes. And I would, uh, probably have sex, you know, it's a day off. Why not? I would I would be very boring. I think I would be. I would do something very, very boring with 24 hours, often Saigon, Because my my general day to day life is pretty exciting. I think it is so different than

spk_1:   38:34
what most people are doing.

spk_0:   38:36
I'm out all the time. I'm always going to new venues and bars and clubs and restaurants and things. And I have to meet people all the time. I always have to be on. I'm very rarely out inside out of Alba, face of makeup and, you know, look so yeah, probably try to be really inconspicuous and boring.

spk_1:   39:01
There are No I know you have a week off. Explore Vian. Where would you go in

spk_0:   39:06
Vina annoy? I've never been to annoy what I've never been to annoy in the three years that I've been in Saigon, in Vietnam. I have never been to No, I have been Fuqua. I've been to denial in Hoi An and just just to central. But I have not been to annoy. So I would go to Hanoi as long as the week was not during this time of year when it's cold and rainy because I do not deal with cold at all at all. Anything below 70 degrees Fahrenheit. I don't even know what that is in Celsius. I know it's still hot for most people. I cannot deal with old at all. I'm allergic to cold. If I get cold, I get hives. I get itchy. I got wealth in bread and it's very, very uncomfortable for me. I've read recently that I could actually go into anaphylactic shock. I'm actually literally allergic calls. You never, Never? No, never. When would

spk_1:   40:08
you go up to, like, has a gang and sap on things like that? Yeah, definitely. No,

spk_0:   40:12
I would I would want to do stop a And, uh, where is this place? With big like island. Ha Long bay. Um, yeah. I want to do the whole North Park's haven't done. You

spk_1:   40:27
should dio definitely. Um I feel like you probably may be the best person to answer this question. You have a hidden gem in Saigon, you have tonnes. And then if you share them, Although it is my

spk_0:   40:46
thing, I will share one with you. And then I will tell you where you can find more of them. My probably my favourite place in Saigon and this may be due to my lifestyle is Opera T Club. It's only to Chung, um, kind of near heart of darkness, and it is a nap cafe. So it's open 24 hours, seven days a week. Have comfortable like lounge chairs. They have tonnes of pillows everywhere and they have a stack of pillows by the door. If you need some extra ones, there are some booth. The lights are always really low. The music is kind of like a lullaby. You can go there work. I used Teo when I was a freelance writer. I would go there overnight and I would write, and then I get tired. I take a little nap and then I wake up and write a little bit more and take a nap and the coffee and tease and things. They do pots of tea. So I'd have a ginger tea waiting for me when I woke up, and they only charge you 25,000. I believe, if you just go there and take a nap and you can sleep there for four hours. Never. Thie Property Club. It is one of my favourite places, so if you're a partier like I am, sometimes you get tired and you just need a nap like real quick and go there, have a little nap, and then I get back to my party. It's a good one. Yeah, so that's it. That's the end of

spk_1:   42:28
the questions. And so what's next for you? What's happening?

spk_0:   42:31
So I run side on Funny People, which is a comedy group inside on. We have open mic every single Monday for anything that you want to do. You can come out and and express yourself. We'll give you some time there. We also have two shows a month at Bon Bar, Ahn Dong Khoi on That's an all female show and then a raw comedy show where you can hear me talk crazy stuff about my kids and judge me on DH and then I'm an event planner. So we have a lot of parties and things around. You can just follow side on funny people on Instagram or Facebook to keep up today with all of that stuff. One project that I am very excited about, that we've got starting up is Asia out loud, which is gonna be our new social media channel. It's with myself and J K Hops in, which is another comedian. You guys should listen to this episode I'm on seven million bikes because it was cool, too. Um, and then a photographer, Merv Lee. And we're trying to showcase really cool and interesting spots, secret locations, interesting people and the storeys behind the things that they do is gone and in Asia on a hole. So if you're wondering, like, where can I go to find, you know, cool stuff to do? Or where could I go and find my yummy food to eat? And where is a place that I can spend my money responsibly with cause and cheque out Asia out loud? Look out for that, please. Awesome.

spk_1:   44:06
What? What? Your plans for your career in terms of comedy event planning. We're DC yourself going with that?

spk_0:   44:13
I don't. I think I will always have a home inside on. I love this city's so much. I don't see myself leaving permanently like ever. But I travel a lot for comedy right now, and that's the goal. I've got an African tour coming up, and I'm gonna be in Australia next year as well, so I definitely want to see where that goes. I want to continue to build the scene up here in Saigon. I'm really committed to offering stage time for up and comers and underground people. I'm really excited to see where the city goes in a couple of years, and I'm really happy to be a part of that. But yeah, I just want to make, like, oodles of cash. And I want my new, significant other partner, one of them at least to have way more oodles of cash. And I do. I want to see my kids grow up and be happy and excited about their passions in life and making good livings with that. And ah, I just want to see the world. I would travel around and see different things and spend my money on stuff that rich people spend their money

spk_1:   45:39
on. When you gonna see your kids?

spk_0:   45:41
I will see them in a couple of months, and then they're gonna come and spend the summer with me wherever I am. Summers in Saigon, as most of you probably know, are pretty dead here. There's not a whole lot going on the summer. A lot of the teachers go away and go to their families and stuff. So a lot of us travel in the summer time. Um, so I think I'll probably take them. Tio Sri Lanka We really want to go to India, but my son likes to put absolutely anything in his mouth, even at almost 10 years old. So I'm a bit scared about that. But I've heard she long is like India Light. So

spk_1:   46:23
I think we

spk_0:   46:24
might try that. Yeah. Just travel a bit with them and let them maybe make some family friendly events on the other side and and just, you know, have fun with that. Cool. Well, thank

spk_1:   46:39
you very much. And you, I'm glad we got to talk to you behind this offstage persona because as we have talked about this episode, I don't think many people realise that there is a difference?

spk_0:   46:51
Yeah, Um, just anybody who's on stage, any celebrity or, you know, persona. We're all still people multifaceted. We have our childhood traumas and our experiences and everything that make us. We are. And I think it's very easy to see somebody on stage and see them as a one dimensional person. So I really appreciate the opportunity to express mother passage of myself. And I hope that people listening will realise that everyone is like that. Everybody's got a storey to tell. And if you want to know more about me, you can follow me on Facebook or Instagram or you gonna come and find me anywhere inside God, I am out about all the time, almost every single day of the week. Come and say hi and have a chat and I will try to remember your name. I promise. Just don't

spk_1:   47:45
don't you do not touch my

spk_0:   47:47
hair? Oh, or I might do some weird stuff to your shirt off.

spk_1:   47:54
Thank you so much. Thank you for listening on. I hope you can tune in for further episodes. I think listening to Part two of Episode six with Angie the diva a massive thank you to Angie for being an amazing guest. I'm sure you enjoyed that as much as I did. And if you haven't listened to Part one already, go back and listen to. If you haven't listened Teo previous episodes go back and listen to them. You can get them on Apple podcast Google podcast stitcher Spotify Pretty much anywhere that you can get Podcast. You'll be able to faint. Seven million bakes starting on podcast. So thank you very much for this thing of what you can tune in for future episodes as well. If you want to send me a message, you can get me at seven million bakes at gmail dot com. All go to the Facebook page. Give me a like, Give me a message. Leave a review if you can. That would be super, super helpful as well, and it's always great to hear from people. So thank you for listening. Thank you, as always, to lose right for composing the theme music for seven million bakes and also deline win by helping me design the cover up that you can see everywhere. Thanks again, we'll be enjoyed that hook. Enjoy future episodes. Have a great day