Fluent Vietnamese Expat, Afro Viet TV Creator, Musician & Actor | Nam Đen S5 E6

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Mr Nam Đen as he is affectionately known in Vietnam, or Nadis as he is known in his home country of Nigeria, is the creator of Afro Viet TV, a massively popular You Tube channel.

Through comedy, food, music and travel his channel explores the beauty of African and Asian cultures.

After first coming to Vietnam in 2008 he has now lived here for 10 years and is one of those rare things... an expat who can speak fluent Vietnamese. Sick of communicating through hand gestures and wanting to understand the culture he was living in better Mr Nam Đen took Vietnamese lessons and without fear of making mistakes he threw himself into learning Vietnamese.

As a trained actor, with a strong comedic sense and master of the local language, what started as a hobby in 2018 has grown into a channel with over 66,000 Subscribers and a devoted fanbase.

You can follow Mr Nam Đen on any of his channels here;

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S5 E6 Nam Den Full 

[00:00:00] Welcome to season five, episode six of 7 million bikes a Vietnam podcast. This week, we are talking to Mr. Nam den of Afro Viet TV. A very popular YouTube channel. Mr Nam. Dan is originally from Nigeria and he's lived in Vietnam for over 10 years and speaks fluent Vietnamese, which is incredible. He's a trained actor, which you can see in these videos, which are all in Vietnamese, but with English subtitles.

[00:00:27] And they're all absolutely hilarious. So make sure you check him out on there. After this episode, we talk about his upbringing in Nigeria having. Seven brothers being the, the second youngest of those seven brothers who I'm having a fate with his own family just to eat and being a black man in Vietnam and cone doing racism perceived or otherwise, and how he ended up getting into his YouTube account.

[00:00:48] And of course, much, much more. If you enjoy 7 million bakes a Vietnam podcast, and please make sure you subscribe or follow the podcast from wherever you are listening from right now, whether that's Apple podcasts, [00:01:00] Spotify, Google podcast, Stitcher, or whatever app that you are using. Make sure you follow, subscribe and turn on the notifications so that you don't miss an episode.

[00:01:09] Also make sure to follow us on all the usual social media channels. So you can find us on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, but not Tik TOK or Twitter, never Tik TOK. I'm too old for that. And Twitter just, I don't know, it seems like way too much ever, but Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, check it out. If you want to get in touch, please.

[00:01:26] I love hearing from listeners. It's one of my favorite things I'll always respond to you. So let me know what you think of the short and where you're listening from and just a reminder as well. It does take time and money to produce a Vietnam podcast. It will always be available for free wherever you listen.

[00:01:41] But if you do want to give your support, you can now become a member on Patreon and get some amazing member benefits, like free tickets to choose an exclusive member, only content. Or if you want to buy me a coffee or maybe even a beer, you can do that too through coffee.com, which the links are in the show notes below.

[00:01:58] So make sure that you check them out as [00:02:00] well. Your support is honestly massively appreciated. So thank you so much. If you can do either of those. I also want to give a shout out to more amazing content producers in Vietnam, because there's so many right now doing some unbelievable things. So not only do you have to check out Afro Viet TV, which is Mr.

[00:02:15] Nan Dan's channel also, please make sure you look up koala land Kuala land is a dark comedy animation series produced up in Hanoi. It's inspired by Rick and Maury and created by. I an oil from critic, Stan, and also Ralph Lauren's from the Philippines and check out the videos on Facebook. They are awesome.

[00:02:32] It's about an alien koala who got stuck on earth in an EA control dimension. Sounds crazy. I said it's inspired by Rick and Rick and Morty. So it makes sense. Right. Also make sure you check out Ralph Lawrence's V-Loc channel, which is called live awesome as well. So thank you very much for joining us at 7 million bakes our Vietnam podcast, and I hope you enjoy this episode.

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[00:02:57] My guest today is a content [00:03:00] creator, YouTube and musician, who is originally from Africa, but has been in Vietnam for over 10 years now. And he runs the very popular YouTube channel called Afro via TV. My guest today. Thank you for joining me is Mr. Nam, Dan, thank you for having me welcome to 7 million bakes.

[00:03:19] Thank you for joining. Thank you. So I know that you get asked this probably more than anything, and you're probably bored of talking about it, but the first thing that you see when you watch your YouTube channel, and please do Google look up Afro Viet TV and watch the videos You're fluent in Vietnamese.

[00:03:39] I try you try. I try because the common reoccurance on this podcast is when we interview someone who's an expat. I don't think I've interviewed anyone who can speak Vietnamese yet. Oh, really? Yeah. That's that's, that's neat. I think a lot [00:04:00] of foreigners that speak Vietnamese fluently as well. We've talked about it to death on this podcast.

[00:04:05] So we won't go into details about the difficulties of speaking Vietnamese and why there are so many ex-pats that don't speak Vietnamese, but how did you end up becoming so fluent in it? And the fact that you can do a YouTube channel and you can do comedy in a second language, which is notoriously difficult to learn.

[00:04:24] Okay. The thing is I. At first, I never wanted anything to do with Vietnamese language because I got discouraged by a lot of people who were here before me, like this is so hard to learn. So don't even think about it, which is still here to this day. Yeah, exactly. So I was like, Oh, I was made for challenges.

[00:04:48] So it was it was a very. Very interesting time for me, because I got so tired of they hand [00:05:00] signs. I got so tired of, you know, having to go into shops that I know what I'm looking for, but I dunno how to explain it. So I was forced like literally forced myself to learn the language. So. So you weren't very good at charades.

[00:05:18] Is that what you're saying? No, really. I love it. When people do kind of say that like, Oh, you know, use your hand movements or whatever, but if you play a game of charades with English speakers, They don't know, like how many times are they like guessing what you're trying to do? And they don't know. So how is someone in another language going to know that these hand sayings that you're making mean, can I have a ball, please?

[00:05:40] The thing is you have to be very descriptive with your hands. You have to, you have to know them and the, the, the, the measurement of what you're looking for. Maybe you want to go and get like a soap. So you walk into the store and they don't know what you're looking for. You have to.

[00:06:00] [00:06:00] Yeah. To make the headset like to show, I want a bath. I want to have a bath, something like that. You took all your cones off and started sending you were washing yourself down as hours. Okay. You don't have to

[00:06:16] Nick the hand sign, then you start here and maybe somebody, maybe the second person, the second girl, or the first girl we start discussing. Oh, Oh.

[00:06:27] You, you you What that, what that you, you so that's how it usually works, but it sounds, we spend like a few minutes, we figured it out. So you came here 10 years ago to 2011. When I say 2011, it doesn't sound that long ago, but when you say 10 years ago, that sounds like a long time. Okay.

[00:06:49] Actually, the first time I came here was in 2008. Okay. But I came on a, on a, on a, like a vacation with a bunch of my friends. So [00:07:00] I really didn't like it at first. So I left, but there was something that I kept, I've been to so many countries I've traveled a lot. So by the time I was in Vietnam, there was something different.

[00:07:15] You know, I kinda like found it very interesting because I love the weather for the fact that it's different. It's like almost the same with my weather. So it felt like home. And the second thing was even though I found it very like very difficult to understand the language it's the same with most of the other countries that have been to as well, but there are a few people who look who's, who can speak English.

[00:07:44] So, but the biggest kind of that I got was the first time I was here was People were fascinated by my color as a black dude. So I went to some, some rural areas that people. [00:08:00] Came out to the streets and like touching my skin and trying to see if this is real. Isn't that? Not enough. So it was at first I was very upset about it.

[00:08:12] I was like, this is a racism, but in. Closer. I'm like thinking deeper into it. I found out that they were not abusing me, actually. They were just curious to find out, Oh, is this color real? How is this guy? Why are you dark? Did you spend so much time in the sun? What is going on with you? For the fact that I don't understand the language, it pisses me off the more, because I couldn't understand what they were saying, but when I read the official expression, I understand that they were not making fun of me.

[00:08:47] They were just being inquisitive. So I started slowly but steadily to integrate myself into the society. And by the time I started [00:09:00] picking up the language. That was when I came back the second time, because after the first time I left, then a couple of years later I came back. So I came back for, because if a friend of mine said, Oh, you've been to Vietnam.

[00:09:14] Right. I heard there are so many companies that there are schools or things that you can teach and say, Oh, my friend was here then. So I came, I spent time with my friends and then I started teaching English. Then as I started teaching English side. I was not that patient enough because a couple of the students who are like really on my nerves every day.

[00:09:39] So unlucky, luckily I started getting a little bit requires from back home for people who want to have a business connection with Vietnamese, because Vietnam is a very. Big producing country. So yeah, they asked me for this, look for this. Look for shoes. Look for [00:10:00] claudins look for waters or flood house.

[00:10:05] That was how I got into business first. So I stopped teaching. I opened a company 2013. And then I started doing, I have a small company that I run. Then few years ago, exactly. In 2018, that was when some of my friends, because I was trained as an actor. I've been acting all my life after school. I did a lot of movies in Africa.

[00:10:31] So when I came back to Vietnam, I couldn't get a job as an actor because of the color, because of the language. So I got into business first boat when I was like financially capable of getting into YouTube. My friends, advice me to get onto YouTube then. Yeah. I started thinking about it. I started doing it for fun in 2018, but I started making YouTube videos officially in 2019, mid [00:11:00] 2019.

[00:11:01] And the thing that most people are, you should get into for fun, right? Like I think if you get into it for any other reason, it's the wrong reason you fail completely. You have to have the passion for it to go into it. Well, I've been doing this podcast for nearly two years. Started off as a hobby. It's still a hobby, but I'm starting to try and, you know, professionalize and make it better.

[00:11:22] There's no, you can support the podcast through Petri on or through buy me a coffee and trying to, you know, bring it up to another level. We're recording in a more professional setting. We were talking before the podcast. I used to record in my front room and now we are in a clothing closet, but it's a step up in the right direction.

[00:11:43] So just to go back. Yeah. When you, you were saying about you were getting these interactions with the law because of touching you and seeing things, and you couldn't understand them once you could understand them, what were they saying? Okay. Now there are two types of people. There are [00:12:00] ones who like Oh, wow.

[00:12:03] We have man, I'm I'm not used to seeing black people. Oh, but I'm seeing black people in flesh. Is this natural? Can I rub this off chambers color? Go off. That's innocently. Curious, and then they are the second people who might have had some negative interaction with some black dudes in the past, who don't just like you for being who you are or being from Africa or being black.

[00:12:34] There are those too, but they, the latter part of it, the latter group, I'm not really, that much are very few of them, but the fun part. As the other party that just want to interact with you and understand who you are and what is just how your car is naturally, or you slowly. Got that guy. I [00:13:00] guess you can understand that point of view because many people in Vietnam and in Asia use whitening cream to get whiter.

[00:13:07] So maybe in their mind, they saw that you came from a country where you do the opposite, but the truth is I, I love people still get frustrated by a lot of people still done. I agree. By that too, too. I mean, to be touched or to be seen or to be, you know how do I do I put it lightly to have this stigma when they are walking on the streets, you look at them in a funny way, you laugh at them or you mock them.

[00:13:45] Locally posted found it very upsetting. So, but most of the people now, when I try to explain to them, I just explained it to groups for them. So they understand that most of these people [00:14:00] and not mocking you. And so many times you'd be, when you walk into a shop, they are waving their hands like this. It's not because you're black or your whites it's because they actually don't know what to say to you say, nobody speaks English there.

[00:14:17] So the best thing for them to do is to wake you up so you can go away and look for another place to buy. That's a good point. And the S the symbol, if you, cause we're on a podcast you are making is the Shiki jazz hands. And I've had that before walking into a shop and they just shake their hands and you're like, so rude, why are they doing this?

[00:14:36] But then over time as you've lived here, long enough, you realize it's just them saying we don't speak English or we've run out of stock or we're closed on something. The funny thing was that if they, the black community. I think in that this is racism. They're doing it because of, Oh no, like 80% of my friends are white, [00:15:00] so they are like, I get that a lot too.

[00:15:03] So what's going on? So we are all foreigners in, in, in a foreign land. And this is going on irrespective of the fact that you're a white dude or you're a black dude. So you can't call that racism. It's just misunderstanding. They just don't know what to say to you. So they just let you go, please go, go, go.

[00:15:29] I don't have the strength to speak English. That's how I see it. And now I would imagine what's the difference reaction when you meet people versus living in Saigon or being in Saigon, which is obviously a big cosmopolitan. In quotation marks city versus going out to the countryside. Okay. The, the differences I've been to a couple of cities are already, most of the cities I've been to the responses, the reaction differs.

[00:16:00] [00:15:59] So the restaurants you might get in Canto is different from the restaurants you're getting maybe like Hanoi. I traveled to mean Bay. You know, they, you have a lot of tribes that have darker skin. Oh my gosh. There's so many like a lost brother. And coupled with the fact that I speak Vietnamese, Oh my gosh, you're welcome.

[00:16:26] This is your home. This is your place. It made me feel so at home. And then you go to some other cities that don't really relate to a lot of black dude, a lot of foreigners. Let me see, let me say a lot of foreigners. So they still see when you're walking past, they still look at you strangely. And those weird looks as so, so, so.

[00:16:50] Like awkward sometimes. And I guess I don't want to downplay racism or make it like, you know white people suffer too. [00:17:00] Cause I know we don't, but as you mentioned, I do. Yeah. I get those strings looks as well. Sometimes you can go, you can go somewhere and you feel that you're being looked at because you are, but it's because you're a foreigner, right.

[00:17:09] So I guess maybe for a black person whose is more. Definitely used to racism and maybe being looked to that in a negative way. So it's like that maybe is a really feels like a negative emotion. So I probably don't react the same way where I see that and think like, Oh, and have that negative emotion, because I've not had that experience in the past, but I do recognize what you're seeing.

[00:17:31] And I do still feel like it's not a nice feeling when you go somewhere and someone looks at you funny or they can, or they just recognize that you're an outsider, I guess. Yeah. The, the, the thing I've come to realize is that the more you try to think deeper about it, the more upsetting it is to you. So what I've I've come to like understand that people are different, but without [00:18:00] downplaying racism, as you said, there are people who are straight to your face.

[00:18:06] Very crazy. You look at them, you know, they just don't to you. Not because not even, just because you have foreigner, they just don't like you, I've gotten a lot of responses where people are telling me on my YouTube channel, get out of our country. We don't love them. We don't like black people, Vietnam.

[00:18:24] Don't like black people, you get out of our country and then you see sometimes I don't even respond to this. The next thing you see a couple of so many Vietnamese responding, shutting that person down immediately. Like, no, you don't speak for us. We love you. We want you here. We love what you're doing, please.

[00:18:48] You, I want to voice your brother, irrespective of where you come from. That's so beautiful to, to read and to, to see that. If one person hates you, there are 50 or 60 [00:19:00] or a hundred people who are willing to respond for you. I don't even have to fight the fight by myself. That's what I love about Vienna.

[00:19:07] That's really heartwarming. That's really cool. Yeah. Cause I guess you're always no matter where you are in the world, you're going to have people. Who are in the extreme on one end. Right. And it's not really surprising. One of the things that's a common thing I hear in Vietnam is racism towards black people when it comes to teaching English and I've worked for a company called Ile where.

[00:19:28] One of the most proudest things about working for that company was they had no discrimination. So they have teachers from all over the world, all races, creeds, colors, sexual persuasions. There's just no discrimination at that company, which I think is amazing. But I know it's something it's a problem at other companies.

[00:19:47] Have you come across that? All right. On that aspect, I think it still exists today. I might not be experiencing much of it because I've not been teaching for [00:20:00] awhile, but I've, I have so many friends, white, black, the especially the black folks that get experiences like this. So they've complained about it.

[00:20:11] Some have written about it some, but the, where I said, where I say it, it's something that. We need to look into even as a, as a Vietnamese or as a country, or as, as a world in general. It's I think equal opportunity and see people for who they are. Not because of their color, not because of the nationality, but giving them a fair chance to succeed.

[00:20:44] Then if they mess it up, you know, I give this person a chance, but they messed it up. So, first of all, see beyond the color first, if this guy is qualified or this lady is qualified to teach in this school and they have this certificate to do [00:21:00] that, give them a chance, give them like two months, three months probation, but they don't perform as you expect them to Ken.

[00:21:09] It's fine, but don't just, Oh, if you're black, don't even apply. Which can happen, right? No, we happens a lot. It happens if you're black, don't apply, you know, that's, that's not fair. I've had a friend tell me and it may have been on the podcast. I can't remember now that they were told, look, we're not racist, but the parents are that's true.

[00:21:36] Sometimes it is not really. The employers that you have problem with. Sometimes the parents are the ones that dictates the teachers that they want. If you get like a black African dude coming to teach, and that's cool. There'll be wondering why [00:22:00] white foreigner get as an American, get hers on Australian.

[00:22:05] Never Scottish. They never so scared. That's never happened. Yeah. But she's a different thing.

[00:22:19] Well but even with a first ever job here which was with Ile and one of the teachers was American. But Vietnamese American. And so his name on the classroom door was his Vietnamese name, even though he went by Josh, but they put you there to put your like, kind of legal name on the, on the door for whatever reason.

[00:22:40] And so again, your parents would complain and, and thankfully again, what, for a good company, they were like, no, this is our teacher. He works here, he's got the qualifications and he's American. And, but that, that, and I know that happens to many, many of the accused who come here, the parents would see the Vietnamese name and be, I don't want this teacher.

[00:22:57] He's been amazing. It's like, he's literally born [00:23:00] in America and abroad. That's my point because the C. This person now you see, it's not even about being blocked now. It's about because this person is from our country. How can he teach me? We are the same. He learns English this way does the same way I'm learning.

[00:23:17] So he's not American. He's not British. So why would you teach me? So by the time they get to find out why they were able to find out is they give a chance for you to explain. Okay. What if this guy is a Vietnamese man speaks fluent English. What if this guy is not an American, but he's good at his job?

[00:23:43] Why does it matter that he has to have a foreign name? He has to have a British sound, a name and an American name and English name to get a job there. That's that's what I'm talking about. When, I mean, you have to give a fair chance to the individual [00:24:00] first, if they don't perform or they don't fulfill your duties, then you know that you've given them a fair chance, but they.

[00:24:08] They can't perform now, let's go back. So you're from a mixed background of Nigeria and South African. Tell us more about that. Yeah. Growing up by, I grew up all my life in Nigeria, to be honest. So going about was not privileged to have a lot of things. Oh, I was fat. So let me rephrase that.

[00:24:29] I didn't have anything that's quite different. Isn't it? That's, that's a beautiful word of difference. Not having a lot of things, because even rich kids, they complain that they don't have a lot of things. I didn't have nothing. Man. I, I hopped on the streets at a very tender age, even while I was in, in, in, in primary school.

[00:24:49] So we went that without that rich, we went direct. So making interest cool was I was a miracle. Wow. You [00:25:00] know, even to have a normal food to eat was, was a miracle as well. So we lost my dad at a very, very tender age. I don't even know who he was. In fact, as far as I know, I don't, I only saw him in pictures because I was very little when he died.

[00:25:20] So I have one of the brothers of in fact who were seven, seven all boys and I was the I'm second to the last one. So are the brothers the, they are like tigers. You can't imagine what it is like to live in a house full of boys. Everybody's eating everybody. Like there's no girl to say, Oh, you guys stop, stop.

[00:25:44] No, nothing. There's nothing like that to me. If you want to kill yourself, go ahead. I mean, I imagine that if you're saying you didn't have much food and you were the second to youngest, you really didn't have much food. Oh no, that's for sure. I didn't have it before it gets to me. [00:26:00] And maybe it's it's the remaining ones that I left because I have tigers a lot of, bunch of tigers in front of me.

[00:26:06] So, but the good thing was that as they were growing up, my brothers are moving in, moving out, going to school and. Doing all different things. So as you were growing up, there was never a time where that's much in the house. At the same time, there was always like three or four, by the time they are the ones that are growing up, the other one's already moving up.

[00:26:24] So it was well still, it was, it was, it was a big big was I in my, in my household. So, but he was good. He was a good experience going through that background and understanding. How to survive when you are at your lowest? My mom was like, she, she like one in a million. You know, losing your husband at that time.

[00:26:52] And she was very young. She got married at a very tender age, you know, back then the, in Africa easily,  [00:27:00] 16, 17. They already married. So being left with seven kids at a very tender age, you have to, you have to fight, you have to buy it. You have to scratch whatever you can get to, you know, to keep raising your kids.

[00:27:14] But I still question why. Half seven. And did you get an answer? I did not ask that. I didn't ask that by the time I got to the eighth grade, I could ask that question. My mom passed away, passed away about 14, 15 years ago. So even my mom was still alive. I promise you I wouldn't spend six months in Vietnam.

[00:27:42] She will never allow me to do that because while I was while I was in school, I got some jobs, right. Contrast to perform for USA ID and some you UNESCO stage concerts and performing arts. [00:28:00] So. I been in positions where my performance of married. So like one time I got like a letter from the Netherlands to travel there, to perform and to, so first thing my mom asks you asked me was, how long are you going to be there?

[00:28:19] Say, I don't know, maybe six months, maybe one year. You're not going. Perform here. I don't want any of my kids go in there. Stranded being compared to other Africans who are roaming the streets or fear rope with no job. And then before you know, it, you're forced to commit a crime. No, you stay here. I watch you.

[00:28:40] You stay here. If we are hungry, we hungry. If you're dying, we die. You're not going anywhere. So she wouldn't, she wouldn't like compromise principles for anything, for any amount of money. That was how she was. So if you are coming to offer us money because we are [00:29:00] hungry and you are insulting us because of the, I is because of the money you are given to us, keep your damn money she'd done.

[00:29:08] And she wouldn't allow us to take the money. So she just want to start on one. And that's one of the biggest things I got from her. I don't care how much money you offer me if it's not right for my conscience, I'm not doing it. That's why I told her that I've been on interviews here in Vietnamese television.

[00:29:25] I told one channel like that. I said, I know a lot of Africans commit crime, drug pushers, cameras, all sorts of crime. It's not just in Vietnam, everywhere in the world. Yeah. We are very fair. My infamously known for that, but that's not me. So that's why I go back again to what I said before. Don't use the same broomstick to measure all of us.

[00:29:51] We are not the same. We are not, we are individuals in Nigeria, alone. You have over 200 million people. All of them are [00:30:00] having 200 million characters. So I wouldn't want to generalize one behavior of a very few minority to the whole of the population. For myself. My biggest biggest critic is myself and I will never, ever involve myself in something that would challenge the image of my father, the image of my family, just because I want to get rich.

[00:30:26] I'd rather walk my way up. If you don't do the job. Thanks. But I rather go on the streets, picking up rubbers and selling they saw dancers and to do what will never ever bring glory to my name or to keep my discipline and respect. And my family. Well, as your channel has become bigger, have you had to turn down any work or any sponsors because of that conscious?

[00:30:54] Yes. A few of them, you don't need to name names right now. I'm not naming [00:31:00] them, but I'm just going to describe, I've had some companies that they came to me for advertisement or to work with them. But once I checked the, the, the, the. The integrity of the company and what they stand, what they stand for the client, even though.

[00:31:20] So I spent thousands and tens of thousands of dollars buying equipment for my YouTube channel. I've not even made 10% of the money I invested in my channel over two years, I've been doing YouTube videos, but still I respect myself well, enough to know. That if I get involved in this kind of promotion and people get to find out that it's not true, it's not just the company has benefited from my promotion, but my image is dangered for life.

[00:31:51] Defense can never trust me again. And people wouldn't want to like. Listen to what I have to say, but because it will say you've [00:32:00] already asked a shifted with this, with the scam of a company. So why would we trust you now? So those are the things I meant to into dots before I set in any promotion or any advertising, I need money.

[00:32:14] Seriously. I need money, but I rather, I'd rather not through that route to make that kind of money. I've rejected even very good money. Just because the identity doesn't align with what I stand for. That's awesome. No, your channel is now. I saw the latest it's 66,000 subscribers. That's incredible. So what when you started out, you said it was for fun.

[00:32:43] What was your goals or your aims and how did you grow to such a level? Yeah flips the fall when I started, like I told you, I wasn't doing YouTube video that I registered that signup. I said personal channel in 2018, I just cover [00:33:00] some Vietnamese songs. I just post there for my friends to see and, you know, enjoy.

[00:33:05] So, but after a couple of my friends started and I'm like, man, you are not going Nigeria. What are you doing you to be scared and be just caring to you? So I created the first series that I did welcome to Vietnam. From the first episode I introduced myself how I came to Vietnam with a script. I wrote about how I came to Vietnam, what the, the crazy things that I've seen Vietnam and all the difficulties I had when initially the first time I came here.

[00:33:37] So you know African boy I traveled, but DNM was a whole new experience for me. So all the difficulties and how my name got changed from novice to now. Now I'll put that in the video. In the first episode, it was through my, the, the owner of my house. The landlady was, your name is too difficult to [00:34:00] pronounce.

[00:34:09] she doesn't want to hear anything else. She just want to call me now. I was really upset. Why are you changing my name then? My friend that I live in his house was the one that said, Oh, You don't know my landlady, she already told you I'm Nam is a good name. I said, I don't even know what that means. And you're asking me to get a name that I don't know what it means.

[00:34:28] Then when I started doing some real numb, it's like number five, the main one is like, his man is masculine. Oh, okay. I can handle that. I can deal with that. So that was all my name got changed. And before, you know, everybody was calling me now, . Sorry. I got stopped with that. Well, it actually is a joke that I used to do on stage and I would get my friend to come up and help me lay.

[00:34:53] And it actually has now has seven meanings dependent on the tunes of the [00:35:00] inflection. So we're going to try this. There's a joke I used to do on stage, you know, with either get my friend to come up or even just sometimes it would have a random Vietnamese person come up. So I'm going to tell you the sentence in English, and then you're going to translate it into Vietnamese.

[00:35:14] I haven't done this on stage for quite quite a while for a while. So I lay with a man called Nam, holding five mushrooms for five years. I'll say it again. I live with a man code Nam, holding five mushrooms for five years.

[00:35:37] Taylor Nam and Tom. Napkin now. Okay. Now, I mean, , I think there's more than that. So you got li like lie down, only isn't am, right? Yeah. Now I lay in bed  is a Yahoo in figure a li. Well [00:36:00] in bed with a man, I changed it to no like sleep. Oh, it should be now my leg Nam. Yeah. So I lay in bed with a man which is called Nam.

[00:36:09] It doesn't name holding, which is now five, no gum. And the way my whole thing is count the, I think there's another variation from Nam holding five Nam years, Nam mushrooms. Oh, yeah. Did five mushrooms. I've got like five names in that, so let's do it again. I lay in bed with a man called Nam, holding five mushrooms for five years.

[00:36:40] Sorry.  Kayla now,

[00:36:44] Dan cam Oh,

[00:36:53] what if I have my shoes in my shoes for five years? No,

[00:37:04] [00:37:00] one more time.

[00:37:11] Speak me to me. So I was sitting with my colleague in the office. She's Vietnamese. Her English is perfect. My English, maybe enemies is not existing. Find is difficult. And we sat on the whiteboard and we wrote down all the different meanings. If you change the inflections. And I think it's seven. So we'll do it one more time.

[00:37:29] I lay in bed with a man cold Nam, holding five mushrooms for five going down now thing you remote ongoing now. Come numb guiding them. No, ma'am, this is why I can speak to me three letter words, N a M, and it can have seven different meanings based on inflation. And you can make about that. Then you can make a sentence in the [00:38:00] sentence is obviously nonsensical sentence.

[00:38:03] That's exactly how to put it. Into phrases, the, the, the, the five, the seven different meanings of Nam.

[00:38:14] I'm very impressed that you can speak more to me because that's why I can't speak. . So your channel is in Vietnamese mostly, but you have the subtitles in English as well. So that must be so well received, but again, as well, people must be confused as well with a Nigerian African speaking Vietnamese.

[00:38:32] Yep. A lot of people get confused because when you go to my channel, if you're using an English products, I have, I have my channel subtitled, even the name. So if you're using like no normal, but the original name is Afro Viet TV. Then if you are using a Vietnamese browser, it comes out as number then official.

[00:38:53] So sometimes some of my friends were like, which one is yours? Which one are you having to touch your nose? I was like, no, we [00:39:00] subtitled, there is something we do on YouTube that you subtitled it to subtitle the title of your channel. So I subtitled as Nandan official. So the, the good thing about it is that.

[00:39:13] It's easier because many people know me as Nam than the black man. And I'm then so Afro via TV that I created it's It's a branch that I'm not just using for my YouTube channel, because I have goals of bigger things that I want to do with that. And I always have a roots here. I always have my connection in Vietnam, so I want it to be a combination of.

[00:39:36] Africa and Vietnamese. So when I say after Vietnam, you can relate that to two places. I have my African roots and I'm in, I'm in my second home, which is Vietnamese, which is Vietnam. So that's, that's what gave birth to after Vietnam. It's UV. Then I, it then to make it a company where I produce like media productions, [00:40:00] we have produced clips and music and so many other things.

[00:40:03] So that's why I'm not even recently posted on my YouTube channel, asking my fans because so many of them have been questioning what's going on. You have to channel the said no. So after them, did they want me to change? The name to just use one name after via TV, or did they want me to use numbers official or do they want me to use Mr.

[00:40:23] Nam official or they don't want me to change anything? The response so far this morning when I checked, it was about 49% said Afro via TV, because it showed that living in Vietnam of that in official, they said it's easier to find on YouTube. But Africa via TV is a bigger company, but Nandan is more of a personal channel.

[00:40:51] And I don't want that to be a personal channel. I wanted to be a channel of that way. I believe me is a channel that I'll create for other people to also be a part [00:41:00] of it that I can even invite for the universe to make a channel under the same brand. So that's why I forget TV is, is, is the official name that I'm using at the moment.

[00:41:11] And so will you change it and take away the Nam den official? It depends because now the non den and not fully, it's almost people who I have like 30, some percent say in London official. I have. So now you see, and then I have about the same percent say don't change anything. So you see the two names are running closely to each other.

[00:41:34] So now I'm confused. I read it. I live in that way. I live in the same way. You would hope that the answers would have been like a landslide in one direction. Now you're like, I still don't know. I still don't know. I still showing that. People like the London, they light after your TV. And then if you add, they don't change anything, that means it's winning.

[00:41:57] So you just live in the same way. I don't know. [00:42:00] I'm just waiting to, like, it's been three days. I want to give it up for like one week then after that I will make the, because once I'm hitching a hundred thousand subscribers, I can tell you I wouldn't change it anymore. So I wanted to make any changes that I will make to the channel.

[00:42:15] Now, before I needed a hundred thousand this year, I changed the name of the podcast from a Saigon podcast to a Vietnam podcast. Oh. To reflect the podcast. Oh no, I'm losing people. So it's still 7 million baits. It used to be 7 million bakes, a Saigon podcast. But I started interviewing an ex Pat who's based in Cyprus, like give Eaton a music paps.

[00:42:40] And then this series, we interviewed someone in Denang and then another EGPAF who's in New York city of a, B Q, so, and then the listeners are actually like all over the country. So I was like, yeah, I think a Vietnam podcast reflects the podcast better than that. Then I say, go on podcasts. So but similar thing as well, I thought about that.

[00:42:58] I spoke to a couple of people and [00:43:00] I, I did a poll as well, which only had about five people respond because I don't have as many followers as you. But I wanted to ask, you know, what is, and that my friend was like, just change it now, before, you know, it blows up. Yeah. Which hopefully will. Yeah, no, it's well it's well, what you're doing is amazing.

[00:43:15] I have to carry now the, the, the thing was that I didn't really ask, not really. Don any podcast interview before I've actually done so many TVs, so many newspapers, but not podcasts. It's like the first interview. And one sends me the link to your, to your podcast and to your channel hours. I was very impressed.

[00:43:39] I have to tell you what you're doing is amazing and I hope more listeners and more people tuning. And you know, you get to share, you get to see like, Most of the things that I've spoken to you today about? I've not really shared it on my platform. I've not really discussed that that much. [00:44:00] So I did like an interview with can't remember which TV channel they came to my office.

[00:44:05] We did for three days, they were like doing a documentary on me. And he went around with me where each, where I, I, I do have a thing at the end of the day It was all done in Vietnamese. It was all done in Vietnamese and Monday, surely you've done your TV and then they publish it on the YouTube. I had to ask for permission for them, from them to download it and to subtitle it in English.

[00:44:28] So before we understand what I'm saying, but even still at that, yeah. Not a lot was discussed actually. So this is like very relaxing atmosphere to have a conversation without the pressure of the, the cameras and the press. Thank you very much. No, and there's something I tried to do. And so I really appreciate that.

[00:44:49] And the tagline of the podcast is we all have a story and that's what I, that was what inspired me to start it. And I've talked about it before. It's. Everyone you meet has [00:45:00] a story, right? Like, and the thing we talked about in the last episode was I think a lot of people who are English teachers here get pigeonholed as English teachers, where they all have like a really interesting background, no matter what it is.

[00:45:11] And then not just English teachers, anyone you speak to a law call as well. Everyone has a story. And I think that deserves to be shared, you know, so that that's part of it. We'll finish now and move on to the final questions that I ask everyone at the end of each podcast. And now the name of the show is 7 million bikes.

[00:45:27] There's 7 million bikes in Saigon, which has no mind blowing over 45 million in Vietnam, but who knows the actual number of bikes on the road, but it's still an incredible statistic. There's about 9 million people in Saigon and 7 million registered motivate. What's your favorite unwritten rule of the road.

[00:45:47] Oh, wow. That's a tough one. Like I told you, it's a tough one, but you want to turn towards your right. And if you look in front of you, [00:46:00] bikes that are going fronts are still on your lane. That should be your lane to turn to the right. And you were wondering, I'll be blowing my horn lighten, get down. This is not your place moving like.

[00:46:13] Sometimes I'll be screaming in Vietnam. Move this bike in Don, stay here. He's not lane is for the people turning right. Then you see them standing in front of their online. You don't look back towards you. Like, what is wrong with this guy? I mean, I like to think I'm a pretty mellow chilled out guy. Not much gets me angry, but I think there's a special place in hell.

[00:46:34] Reserved for people who sit in the right-hand turning lane when you want to turn right. It's like, what are you doing to move that move like half a meter to the left. Wait for the light. Why are you blocking? I don't see them getting angry already. Excuse me. The second thing I really, really. Oh, man. I really don't know what to do to those people at the people that they drive in at high speed, [00:47:00] they don't even look the crews coming behind them in the middle of the road.

[00:47:03] They just. Yeah, that's disgusting. I haven't seen her in a long time, actually. No, you've reminded me. Yeah, I've never, I've nearly caught it on the leg, but I haven't actually caught it. My first one when your face. Oh, it was disgusting. Was one of the things

[00:47:25] that was one of the most disgusting things I've ever had to deal with on the road. Yeah. I mean, like, I wish that guys a rule or something, there's a law that if can you just park your bike, but it's what Sadie can speak. And then you move on. What are the high speed? Why do you even have to do that? You don't even want to consider the people that are coming behind you.

[00:47:46] You don't even know that's sewing concentrates. Yeah, that I'd forgotten about that one. That's a bad one. As you can get a sense from us talking the F the traffic in Vietnam can bring up a lot of frustration. [00:48:00] I'm just picking out a few, but there are so many that so discuss, we can do a whole episode on that.

[00:48:07] So we'll move on. We'll move on. So the next question for someone who is fluent in Vietnamese, what is your most useful Vietnamese phrase? If you watch my channel and you weigh this hindsight is straight forward. Everybody that watches my channel, you know, I love

[00:48:28] That's what I understood the Zoe part of it, but that's a Northern pronunciation

[00:48:38] inside. Go and reset. So the thing was that I picked her up. I actually picked that up. When I came, when I started learning Vietnamese, I didn't know anything else, but how is here? The woman, the ladies, especially the ladies thinking of yours, which I own  again. I want to be North

[00:49:02] [00:49:00] No one time I went to . That was when I started making videos. I went to eat at the restaurant that Obama 18 when he, when he came to Vietnam. So I was like, I went in there and like telling them this is, this is I am abide as a young boy.

[00:49:23] Did they believe you nigga?

[00:49:29] so some of the walkers are like, We were not here when Obama came here, but the pictures were all by the place, but the guy is whiter than you. How come? I was like, yeah, he looks like a Mo I look like on died. And they said, you must be Vietnamese. I said, Oh, you guys don't know him. The guy pretends a lot.

[00:49:52] He pretends like, he's my brother and he doesn't want to speak any again. I mean, so you guys don't bother him a lot. [00:50:00] Does don't worry. He speaks more Vietnamese than I do.

[00:50:06] There's still people walking away right now. Thinking about must be feeding to me

[00:50:13] after that. I coined the term no. After where I picked on the term Boone showers, when I went and There are this group of fans from Indonesia. They said they love my channel. They don't understand what I said, but they read the subtitles because all of my videos, they have English and Vietnamese have that.

[00:50:34] Even, even when I do the videos in English or in Vietnamese, I always put the subtitles so everybody can relate to it. So they've been massive fans of my channel. It's a group. It's a big family from the grandfather to the father, to the son. They had like about 15 people on the tour. So they said that was the first time they were taking a trip to Vietnam.

[00:50:57] And they told me like, weeks ahead [00:51:00] that they were coming, they were coming for me. They want to see me. They, they, they, the Vietnam is their nests, vacation destination. I see. Oh, that's great. This is beautiful place. You guys should come. I love to have you guys. That was when I made a promise that I didn't know I was going to be taken.

[00:51:16] Literally. I said, Oh, I'm promising you. Come on, come on, come to Vietnam. That was before the COVID stuff. So they came and the time they were coming, I have totally forgotten that they were coming. So I feel to Hanoi because I had some video appointments with other YouTubers and some TV channels. So I feel it to Hanoi.

[00:51:39] Then they caught me that they are in Saigon. I said, all my won't. I mean, Hanoi, they say, where is the not? I say, Oh, I know he's another city in Vietnam. I said, Oh damn, we are flying to Hanoi. The whole family, they flew to Hammad. They were more than 15. The [00:52:00] granddad was the biggest with the biggest support.

[00:52:02] So he was the biggest fan. He said, he's the one that I introduced my channel to all the family members. They have, they have Indonesians. I don't know. It doesn't matter. I don't understand it. So when it came to Hanoi, I went from my hotel to see them. So yeah, I, we, they hired a tour guide, but I became the tour guide.

[00:52:26] So the tall guy, the first day, the tall guy came to pick us up. She had her kid a little boy, so the little boy was going with us. He was wild, everywhere. We were going. And I was making a video of it, even some of the video, the video on the video, on that trip. I've not even posted, it's been over a year. So I made the video about the trip.

[00:52:47] So as I was making the video, the kid would be pondering the moment where like, Movie  Jack Mary, come on, [00:53:00] blue. Jack people will be like

[00:53:05] So they keep this, this thing. It keeps happening every minute that we went for like hours and every time I'm hearing

[00:53:18] I got the.  something as why you have to eat.

[00:53:31] keep calm. Maggie, who I knew down. That was how he stuck in my head every time. And so when we got to the pleasant, boom, China's got the

[00:53:52] that phrase gets everybody at every time. Well, I use the trial. He's one of the first ones that I learned and I got to a point [00:54:00] a couple of years ago when I just overused it. But it's because of my friend Kim, whose closet we were in I would always say choy, man, because that's where she says and it just stuck all the time.

[00:54:14] I'd be like, Joey man. That's my, that's my

[00:54:26] And for anyone who doesn't know, what is Choi? You mean? What are you doing? Like who? Oh my God. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. So the next question is what's your favorite sunset spot in Vietnam? There's one in the two as one. I can, I don't even know the location here, but there's, there's one I think in 10 now or something.

[00:54:48] Jen. Now there's a place where I usually with my ex-girlfriend, where we usually hang out, especially towards the, in the morning. We just, when I was living around. So we just drive there in the mud. [00:55:00] Always fearful sunset that's in the morning. In the morning. Yes.

[00:55:07] Sorry towards the evening, because I don't even see her in the morning, so it wasn't even half to walk. I confused sunset in the morning, in the morning. So after one week hanging out, hangs out in the morning, do you mean it's kind of under the Saigon bridge? Well, it looks like I went there last week, this week for the first time.

[00:55:31] Yeah. It's just behind chat now. Now I know exactly what we're talking about and then there's not really much there. That's just like one stall and then they have the small chairs to sell and then you can go on the other side of the Saigon bridge and it's a beautiful spot as well. Actually, I just went there last night and I made a time-lapse video.

[00:55:51] So if you go on my Instagram channel or the YouTube channel, you see. I got really nice sunset time-lapse there. So are you're talking about, yeah, it's just on the other side of that. [00:56:00] That's the most beautiful place I've I've gone for sunsets. I mean, the furious is beautiful. No, it was spoiled in Vietnam.

[00:56:07] I, I do. I love a sunset. I don't know who doesn't know. Yeah, no. These questions so you've obviously been in Vietnam for 10 over 10 years. You've seen massive changes. Would you rather live in Vietnam now or 20 years ago? Well, that's, that's an interesting question actually, because let me put it this way.

[00:56:29] I love it. The, all the developments and all the changes that have come to say gone, but the beautiful thing about it is I, what if I'm going to get that experience of having that so many years ago, Saigon or Vietnam, I can go to a different city. So I can have it but ways, but I love what is happening. And especially in Saigon, the development I've been crazy.

[00:56:52] If you've been here 10 years, if I take a picture of 10 years ago and show you some of the streets now, you won't even know [00:57:00] you would even, there's no similarities being changed so much. I Oh, man. The, the, the quote here is it's, it's crazy. Even in fight, we've been here nearly five years and just last week, we will talk him with someone who'd only been here a couple of years and we were showing them pictures.

[00:57:16] We've got pictures. We used to live in district four in our view, looked all over and Fu where we are now. And, and food was just a Marsh. There was no landmark 81. The bridge is nearly finished. Have you seen the new bridge that wasn't even started? That whole area was just a marshland, but a couple of buildings.

[00:57:34] And no, if you look at that same view, those high-rises those developments as landmark 81, there's a new bridge, those highways. And it's like, That's in four years. It's insane. So that's my ass because 20 years ago doesn't seem that long ago, like 20 years ago it was 2001, but that's a totally different world in Saigon, right.

[00:57:51] I guess. But that's a good point you make about, you could just travel out to, but I guess even can't turn all of those places. Maybe they are not that different to [00:58:00] 20 years, even 10 years from now, what is going to happen in this country? Yeah, it is exciting. It's exciting, man. And do you not think, I usually tell a story?

[00:58:12] Starting my YouTube channel. Even yesterday, I got a friend, not a friend, one of the fans that sent me. I get messages. No, his email is two comments on my YouTube channel a lot, especially now from so many Vietnamese and a bit caves. So the thing is that. They are so inspired by black dude in their country, speaking their language.

[00:58:42] And some of them, they confess that they can't even speak half of the Vietnamese that I speak. And I found that fascinating that. I inspire somebody to go back to their roots. If I can do that to 10, 15, 20 people, I think I've, I've, I've, I've [00:59:00] achieved some of the goals that I set out to achieve in, in, in Vietnam.

[00:59:04] When I, when I started my channel and I remember there was a particular woman in her forties, she sent me a message. Sometimes she said, do you know, I have been. I'm a Vietnamese, but I was born and I grew up in America. I usually come to holidays in Bangkok in Malaysia, but I've never said my feet in Vietnam.

[00:59:27] I say what she was so, so excited to see me doing what I'm doing in Vietnam. And she said, I now wouldn't have we made a bet before the COVID hit. I said, on your next vacation, give me two days. Just two days in Vietnam. If I don't convince you to make this your holidays for I'm like the salesman. Now I say, if I don't convince you to make this place, your home base for don't come back.

[01:00:00] [01:00:00] She said she would take me up on that. Awesome. So I have low confidence disrupted a lot of things. She will come with a family, the next vacation for the first time in 40 something years, she will be in Vietnam. That's like the Indonesia and family. I'll be, I'll make a time to show them around them too.

[01:00:19] Take them around Vietnam when it's on there. Yeah, that's cool. Did she mention, when I talked to previous guests on the short term layer, and we talked about how Vietnamese people who left about 40 years ago still have a real apprehension to come back because of the history of Vietnam. And that, that can be a thing where they don't realize that it's different now, because for them it's always the way it is when they left.

[01:00:41] They had had that come into her consideration. Okay. Now the thing is this. When I started my channel. Oh no. When I came to Vietnam and when I decided to stay here to work here and to live here, one of my cousins in Asia, in the States called me shit. Where are you? [01:01:00] Sure if you remember, of course in Vietnam, what are you doing there?

[01:01:06] Are you a soldier because people, once you say you're in Vietnam, the picture that appears to people is war. The thing Vietnam is so messed up. The Vietnam is in such a crisis that no human, no right thinking human being should live there. So that's, that's even one of the motivations for me to start my YouTube channel, to showcase Vietnam, the whole of Vietnam, the beautiful places, the data places, the obvious places, the lowest places, the nicest places.

[01:01:39] So people can know that if I, a black dude from Africa can Excel in this country to live freely, to enjoy this country. And with my other foreigners that I come in here, live in here. I'm telling you over the last five years, I've had so much people relocate to [01:02:00] Vietnam than previous years, many foreigners, many Vietnamese there that previously we are, we are reluctant to even visit.

[01:02:09] Now they're back in their things are moving to Vietnam COVID situation. For instance, where would you rather be? And this whole word right now, the only place would be in New Zealand, but New Zealand, New Zealand had more cases than Vietnam. So you see sometimes the things that we hear, that's why I always go back to the, the same thing I said earlier.

[01:02:37] Always give people a fair chance, let them convince you or confuse you. Your duty is to give them a chance. It doesn't matter if it's an individual or if it's a country like so many people, they have this mindset that Africa is extremely poor Desi. It's a hub of criminals. If you don't even go there, you would [01:03:00] die.

[01:03:02] Go experience it for yourself. Go and see. So many places that you don't get to see in the news. So I use my experience and all the negative things that have been said about African the same and bringing, and anytime I, I traveled to Africa since I started my YouTube channel, I have not, I have not traveling to Africa.

[01:03:22] I mean, he's been COVID time or this time. So if I travel again, anytime I travel to Africa, trust me, I was showcase Africa, show kids, different countries, different places that people. Were apprehensive to vessel, just like people are very scared about Vietnam. Oh, they it's a communist country. Oh, the security here is terrible.

[01:03:47] Or you get killed. Why don't you just spend a day? If you, if you are going to get killed, if you are going to be that scared that you get killed, you don't deserve to [01:04:00] live. A lot of Galveston had foreigners there, Syria, foreigners live there and Vietnam is the most beautiful place. Like you can live right now, super safe as well.

[01:04:11] Anyway, we could go on all day. They no question what's missing from Vietnam, how what's missing. Mm. Quite a few to me, I think one of the major things I. I love and I saw hates about Vietnam and my country. Number one is we don't all obey the traffic laws that we know. If we say we always, even me, sometimes I've been guilty of that.

[01:04:45] If the traffic laws should be a little bit stricter, that will be less Singapore. That will be nice. And something else is There are a couple of laws that I, couple of things that they are bringing [01:05:00] changes to now, like for investments like foreigner owning a house, like a foreigner. No, I've been, I've been here for 10 years.

[01:05:09] If I was in any other country for 10 years, I should be qualified for citizenship. Right. If I wanted. So those are the kinds of changes that you think about it. If you interview this individual, if you think they are married, if you think they deserve to own a place, if you think they can buy things in your name and don't have to use the Vietnamese wife of Vietnamese partner.

[01:05:32] That, that would be kind of nice to bring a lot of investment to Vietnam. I've talked about this before with my wife and with others. It boggles my mind that this country is not truly open to foreigners, right. Because can't even get a savings account here. You can't buy a house and for someone like a sample, like that blows my mind.

[01:05:50] You've been here for 10 years. So we lived in Vietnam. So we lived in New Zealand before here. For five years and we are now permanent residents of New Zealand. So we're [01:06:00] not citizens, but we, we are permanent residents. So we can go back there at any time. And it blows my mind that we'd been in Vietnam for the same amount of time.

[01:06:08] And we have zero Right. I guess, I mean, just some people will maybe be like, well, you don't, you're not from here. You don't deserve any rights, but every other country in the world, if you live there for long enough, you are afforded a certain amount over 10 years, 10 years, do you have to go on a stand like papers every now and then I still have to do all the things like, and yours came to Vietnam today.

[01:06:32] Yeah, so that if that is missing from Vietnam, but again, hopefully with the development and what not, we'll move on. What changes have happened over the last five years? Since 2015, a lot of laws have come into play that at least it's easy enough, the restrictions on foreign as a bit. So I'm hopeful. And I'm very excited for the new things that will come into place because Vietnam is a beautiful place.

[01:06:57] You just need more management and [01:07:00] no opening up for the foreigners to feel comfortable like us and be a part of the community, especially people like you and I, that we, we have the interest and the best interest of the country at heart. I think it will happen. Right. It's just just take time, Rome.

[01:07:18] We'll look. Thank you so, so much, this has been awesome. It's so good to get to know you and chat to you. And, and I'm really happy to hear that you've enjoyed it. And we're getting a bit deeper than maybe other interviews. And before we finish up tell people that are listening, where can they find your channel?

[01:07:31] Where can they connect with you? What are you doing next? There's where we didn't even talk about your music. So just quickly give your music a plug as well. Okay. First of all, I want to. Thank you for what you're doing. And for inviting me, I, I really had a blast coming here and taking part in your podcast today and hopefully you can, you keep doing what you're doing and don't, don't listen to whatever criticism ticket on board and, you know, make the best of it.

[01:07:59] Yeah, but what you're [01:08:00] doing is amazing and I applaud you for that. So about my channel, my channel is simply the name Afro

[01:08:09] TV. Ed TV. I had the same name I use on Instagram, on Facebook page and on Twitter. And I have it on Tik TOK as well. Yeah, I do a lot of tick-tock tick-tock is blowing up now. I have almost 30,000 followers on tick-tock. I'm working with angel music, but I've not really released in our original song.

[01:08:30] There's a song that I did recently wheat which my son is eight. And then with blaze. So we covered like a very popular Vietnamese song that I was thinking about black people and black minority. So so I, I, I spoke to the guy that owns the song, the original artist. So he said, Oh, no, Oh, well, I'm a friend.

[01:08:54] I like collect your TV channel, like your YouTube channel. Oh, you can. Let me see what you're doing to my son. [01:09:00] So we took the song and remit the beat blaze Sarah to Uman blazer. We made the beats and then I'm bleeding the rap in English. So when did I D I, I sang the chorus. My son did the Vietnamese rap.

[01:09:15] And then plays, we added English rap. I mix it up. It it's a beautiful song. I just, the video is almost done and hopefully the video will be on my YouTube channel pretty soon. Cool. We'll look out for him. Awesome. So thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Thank you for listening as well. I really hope you enjoyed that.

[01:09:33] Make sure you check out all of Mr. Nam Dan's channels. They are really funny videos, really interesting as well. And hopefully, maybe I can appear on one of those videos one day. So look, Oh, you're in now. There's no going out for real. Well, the last video I watched was when you and your friend walked through water that you couldn't see, and there was maybe sneaks and stuff.

[01:09:55] I don't want to just, I don't want to just stop with that. Thank you so much for listening. Stick around for just [01:10:00] 30 more seconds to hear a couple of shout outs at the end of the episode and stay tuned for more. Cheers. Thank you guys. Right. Thanks for listening to this episode of 7 million bakes on Vietnam podcast with Mr.

[01:10:14] Nam den of Afro Viet TV. I really hope you enjoyed that as much as I did. Look out for future collaborations between me and Mr. Nam. I'm looking forward to that. And also look out on his channel. There will be a short video of this podcast, which is the first time we've ever done something like that. So make sure you check that out and follow him on YouTube and Facebook and all of those channels as well.

[01:10:34] A massive thank you to two of the members of 7 million bakes of Vietnam podcasts. Thank you so much to Brandon Thompson and Zion Johnson. Your support is appreciated more than you can imagine. So thank you so so much, that is unbelievable. If you want to become a on as well and get a show at the end of each episode, make sure you go to patrion.com forward slash 7 million bakes.

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[01:11:11] Thank you so much. Have a great day. Nope.