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The Cloudcast #335 - Managing Waste in the Cloud
February 22, 2018 Aaron Delp & Brian Gracely
Brian talks with Andy Richman (Product Manager @ParkMyCloud) about which groups are responsible for cloud costs, how expectations and behaviors are changing as applications move to the cloud (Finance vs. DevOps), do we need DevFinOps, the technology that's making it easier to reduce costs, and tips for driving better cost management.

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Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Introduction of Andy
  • Topic 2 - This survey was focused on “waste” in a public cloud environment. Public cloud was supposed to be less expensive and more agile. Are you seeing people having to reset expectations?
  • Topic 3 - There seem to be two phases of managing costs in the cloud. One is focused buying the right instances at the right time. The other is focused on more day-to-day operations. Are you seeing this sort of separation of functions, and is one a finance function and other a DevOps function?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s get back to “waste”. We went down this road with virtualization many years ago - just turn off what you don’t use. It was the “turning it back on” that actually scared people. What are you learning about more intelligent ways to manage the “turning off/on” process?
  • Topic 5 - AWS has started making more of their services “Ops-less” (sort of), like Lambda, and now Aurora, where you don’t have to think about the infrastructure planning as much. Do you find that people ask why more of the cloud isn’t like this, or they understand that not all workloads run (as before) in these environments?
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Brian talks with Andy Richman (Product Manager @ParkMyCloud) about which groups are responsible for cloud costs, how expectations and behaviors are changing as applications move to the cloud (Finance vs. DevOps), do we need DevFinOps, the technology that's making it easier to reduce costs, and tips for driving better cost management.

Show Links:

Show Notes
  • Topic 1 - Introduction of Andy
  • Topic 2 - This survey was focused on “waste” in a public cloud environment. Public cloud was supposed to be less expensive and more agile. Are you seeing people having to reset expectations?
  • Topic 3 - There seem to be two phases of managing costs in the cloud. One is focused buying the right instances at the right time. The other is focused on more day-to-day operations. Are you seeing this sort of separation of functions, and is one a finance function and other a DevOps function?
  • Topic 4 - Let’s get back to “waste”. We went down this road with virtualization many years ago - just turn off what you don’t use. It was the “turning it back on” that actually scared people. What are you learning about more intelligent ways to manage the “turning off/on” process?
  • Topic 5 - AWS has started making more of their services “Ops-less” (sort of), like Lambda, and now Aurora, where you don’t have to think about the infrastructure planning as much. Do you find that people ask why more of the cloud isn’t like this, or they understand that not all workloads run (as before) in these environments?
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