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Uh huh."},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2356.79,"endTime":2358.74,"body":"That's genius."},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2358.96,"endTime":2361.75,"body":"Another tip that was"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2358.96,"endTime":2361.75,"body":"shared on my podcast by Ariel"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2361.81,"endTime":2365.59,"body":"Nissenblatt, I love Ariel. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2361.81,"endTime":2365.59,"body":"For everyone listening. She's"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2365.59,"endTime":2368.71,"body":"the community manager at"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2365.59,"endTime":2368.71,"body":"Squadcast. She also has a couple"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2368.71,"endTime":2371.17,"body":"podcasts of her own. And she"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2368.71,"endTime":2371.17,"body":"really hones into like the"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2371.17,"endTime":2374.68,"body":"marketing space for podcasting,"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2371.17,"endTime":2374.68,"body":"but she shared a trick. So if"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2374.68,"endTime":2377.89,"body":"you can find the RSS feed, say"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2374.68,"endTime":2377.89,"body":"you're want to reach out to a"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2377.89,"endTime":2381.88,"body":"podcaster. And if you can't find"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2377.89,"endTime":2381.88,"body":"contact info, if you can find"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2381.88,"endTime":2385.48,"body":"their RSS feed, which is usually"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2381.88,"endTime":2385.48,"body":"pretty easy to find through the"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2385.48,"endTime":2389.38,"body":"hosting platform website. 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So find"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2430.18,"endTime":2434.08,"body":"and then @ symbol, oh, my"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2430.18,"endTime":2434.08,"body":"goodness"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2434.14,"endTime":2435.07,"body":"Did you find it?"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2435.28,"endTime":2437.86,"body":"Yep, I found my email"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2435.28,"endTime":2437.86,"body":"address."},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2438.06,"endTime":2440.79,"body":"It's such a genius tip if"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2438.06,"endTime":2440.79,"body":"you're trying to reach any"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2440.79,"endTime":2444.51,"body":"podcaster. 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Wow."},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2453.93,"endTime":2456.09,"body":"So those would be my two"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2453.93,"endTime":2456.09,"body":"tips for if you have to get"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2456.09,"endTime":2459.06,"body":"really crafty to find email"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2456.09,"endTime":2459.06,"body":"addresses."},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2459.09,"endTime":2462.6,"body":"Yeah, those are sneaky."},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2459.09,"endTime":2462.6,"body":"Yeah. They're very sneaky, like"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2462.6,"endTime":2466.29,"body":"you talked earlier about, like,"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2462.6,"endTime":2466.29,"body":"just really getting scrappy. And"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2466.29,"endTime":2469.98,"body":"maybe Yeah, your your claws are"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2466.29,"endTime":2469.98,"body":"out there. We're getting scrappy"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2469.98,"endTime":2477.48,"body":"about finding the information we"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2469.98,"endTime":2477.48,"body":"need. I love it. All right."},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2477.48,"endTime":2481.05,"body":"Well, I think that that wraps up"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2477.48,"endTime":2481.05,"body":"this episode of Podcasting Q\u0026A."},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2481.29,"endTime":2484.35,"body":"Andy, thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2481.29,"endTime":2484.35,"body":"coming on the podcast. Again."},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2484.38,"endTime":2489.42,"body":"Your insight is always so"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2484.38,"endTime":2489.42,"body":"appreciated. So I thank you for"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2489.42,"endTime":2491.61,"body":"taking time out of your day to"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2489.42,"endTime":2491.61,"body":"join me on this."},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2491.65,"endTime":2494.8,"body":"Thank you so much,"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2491.65,"endTime":2494.8,"body":"Jordan, I appreciate it more"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2494.8,"endTime":2497.68,"body":"than you know. I love Buzzsprout"},{"speaker":"Angie","startTime":2494.8,"endTime":2497.68,"body":"I'm so happy to be here anytime."},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2499.27,"endTime":2502.33,"body":"I hope this episode of"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2499.27,"endTime":2502.33,"body":"Podcasting Q\u0026A has been helpful"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2502.33,"endTime":2505.51,"body":"to you. If you have a question"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2502.33,"endTime":2505.51,"body":"you'd like us to answer on a"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2505.51,"endTime":2510.25,"body":"future episode, go to pod"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2505.51,"endTime":2510.25,"body":"inbox.com/buzzsprout or click"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2510.25,"endTime":2513.43,"body":"the link in the show notes to"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2510.25,"endTime":2513.43,"body":"leave us an audio message. And"},{"speaker":"Jordan","startTime":2513.43,"endTime":2515.2,"body":"as always, Keep podcasting"}]}