Episode 376 of RevolutionZ, like other recent episodes, has two main themes, not one. First, what happens after Trump and how do we fight Trump in a way that prepares to continue to struggle after his end? There is a fork in the road—either remove Trump to drift back to the “normal” that bred the crisis or build to remove Trump and win a worthy future rooted in diversity, solidarity, equity, self‑management, and ecological sanity. From there, the episode moves on to its second fous, another in our series of excerpted interviews from the forthcoming book, The Wind Cries Freedom. The oral history's interviewer, Miguel Guevara, sits with Reverend Stephen Sharp, who describes his path from climate awakening to anti‑capitalist ministry, including renovating charity to become a doorway to empowerment and refining outrage into focused, collective action.

Stephen shares the moment that changed him—a confession from a young woman surviving rape and prostitution who displayed her plight and made him feel deeply how personal pain is generated and manipulated by policy and profit. Stephen also describes how faith communities shifted posture to offer unconditional aid while inviting learning, organizing, and public courage. He describes, that is, how revolutionary participatory society aspirations developed a sharp line between coercive charity that demands conformity, and informed solidarity that protects dignity and agency. He describes as well other aspects of religious renovation that complement political strategy: to open all roles to women, to democratize church authority and change the character of roles to be worthy of women who are welcomed, to audit and redistribute institutional wealth, and to confront the tribal reflex that turns adherents of different traditions into enemies.

The discussion also examines the rise of Christian nationalism as a loyalty cult wrapped in scripture, and how multi‑faith marches, youth pressure, and grassroots organizing pulled rituals toward justice. Stephen wrestles candidly with the power and peril of ritual—how it can bind communities and teach virtue, yet harden into control and regimentation. Looking ahead, he imagines a plural, innovation welcoming, protected religious landscape in revolutionary participatory societies where no faith seeks to conquer another and where belief is measured by the love it lives, the justice it advances, and the peace it secures.

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