#4 Police helicopters, rigid narratives, and the barrier to entry -Lauren Ludwig and Monica Miklas

Immersion Nation Podcast

Immersion Nation Podcast
#4 Police helicopters, rigid narratives, and the barrier to entry -Lauren Ludwig and Monica Miklas
Jun 06, 2019 Episode 4
Capital W: Lauren Ludwig & Monica Miklas

Monica Miklas and Lauren Ludwig travel through the fringe, to the front lines of immersive entertainment. Encountering overzealous onlookers, confused law enforcement, and a lifelong frustration with the 4th wall; they solve the problems that come with being on the front edge of a new wave. Based in LA, they are the skilled weavers of wonder that co-founded Capital W

Known for their shows: Red Flags, Rochester, 1996, and Hamlet Mobile. They have both spoken and taught at the Hollywood Fringe Festival, produced shows in Denver, and sustained a continuing run of the infinitely fascinating ‘Red Flags’ since 2017.

In this episode: we discuss immersive entertainment as a tool for cultural realignment, the hazards of confused onlookers, the barrier to entry, and why you shouldn't think that a Disney or Meow Wolf budget is needed to create impactful and inspiring immersive entertainment.

Make it immersive: [20:50]
‘His Dark Materials’ and ‘Clue’

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Show Notes:

  • World of choice: [2:15]
  • Their path to and with immersion [4:14]
  • The first why behind the creative drive [8:17]
  • Knowing it’s fake, critical distance, and safety [10:20]
  • Story: Cops, helicopters, and very confused samaritans [13:30]
  • The illusion of Danger [17:10]
  • Onboarding bystanders [18:50]
  • Make it immersive! [20:50]
    • His dark materials [21:28]
    • Clue [26:46]
  • Rapid fire [28:07]
    • Excited about upcoming immersion experience. 
      • Meow Wolf Denver [28:27]
      • Smell in immersion [28:50]
  • Immersion’s impact on today's culture [30:30]
  • About Capital W! [31:35]
  • Lauren and Monica's recommendations [32:46]

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