Getting the Juice With: Jenni Falconer

In this latest episode of Jason’s podcast, he catches up with fit and fabulous TV presenter, and Heart FM radio host– Jenni Falconer! Jason had the pleasure of chatting with Jenni during a fly-by visit to the Big Smoke. On the other side of the microphone, Jenni shares her love of juicing, her passion for running, but also how she wishes she could be that little bit healthier! Listen now to find out more.

Transcript

spk_0:   0:05
I don't know where you where you wanna beat you might be lucky Listening on a beach somewhere you could be in the gym Could be making dinner for the kids I mean, I don't know where you are, but thank you very much for your company. I am honoured to be joined by TV presenter extraordinaire. She's also health advocate Runs like Nova Hi ho is the one and only It is the legend that is already Jenny Focus everybody way just before we came on. How do you pronounce your name? Is it? Folks know

spk_1:   0:34
you know loads of people see a different way the correct way The way I see it is falconer like you know the bird, the focus on our focus even whose place he says Falcon throws us. Did they Falcone er

spk_0:   0:50
Is that your podcast? I would bring up your pocket, Mike parkers but straightaway because I love your pocket. I don't listen to that many pockets. You're against Europe. Really? Well, the fact that you have me on as a guest was amazing. He's got such a following. Your podcast

spk_1:   1:02
is doing really well. Actually, I had this idea while ago and It's called run put, and it's basically about the feel good of running. So you don't have to wear number from our sins. To listen is just about the feel good and why we dio when we heat it when we love it. What brings us back on actually phoned the Quite a lot of people out there do run. It's one of the fastest growing hobbies or pastimes over there. I mean, back in the seventies, it was only people like the 118 man was on. People like that around has

spk_0:   1:28
kind of been invented in a way, you know, like donkey wasn't a thing, I suppose to know concept, isn't it? So you're not really going anywhere. You want to be anywhere and you're just stepping outside on running. So I got a lot to come because I want to ask again a day in the life of all this kind of stuff. What you eat, nutritional, everything else because you look incredibly yourself. But you look incredibly skin's amazing. You obviously eat well weirdly, and this is a coincidence. But you on day three of them

spk_1:   1:52
know e I don't tell him that button speed him a freezer. This's a juice master delivered on DH. I'm doing for the first time ever. You're blend one juice planed,

spk_0:   2:06
Yeah, juice in play. We got plans and you together, but anyway, that was pure coincidence. Don't talk about some of that stuff as well, but running to get back to that because it's become a real passion for you. So how many have you done? You run a marathon, I presume you're so

spk_1:   2:18
I've done eight. Marathon thing is, I'm quite Lisi. So I live in London and I've only ever run the London Marathon because it's really easy. Just to get to the start line at the end gets you home again.

spk_0:   2:27
Like you say, it's really easy. Think

spk_1:   2:31
Lisi Option. The Lazy Runners gate

spk_0:   2:34
on the London Marathon. The fact that you can get to the start line easier doesn't make the 26 42 walls any easier. It's a little away.

spk_1:   2:44
Well, it is still difficult, but then you know the end. You just get home, critique quickly and you're in a bath drinking a glass of wine.

spk_0:   2:52
Afterwards, I remember doing the New York Modi Did Nooooo marathon on nothing but Jews on the London Marathon.

spk_1:   2:57
You know, I can't believe you did a whole because everyone's going. You must car blue, blah, blah, blah. But you didn't

spk_0:   3:02
know I didn't Just just right before each one. The challenge was, as you know, on our episode of Run Pot, I never trained, right. So which is the most stupid thing in the world? Obviously, you need to train, and that's why I genuinely couldn't walk around New York after I couldn't walk. Go downstairs.

spk_1:   3:16
I did train for a marathon a few years ago. One of the marathons I did on DH across the finish line. My tour might my fear tragic, but my tours had pretty much doubled in size. And so they took my socks off. And really sorry if you're eating or drinking at this minute in time and they took food tours because they've never seen such disgusting feet on what happened is the tour. Nils had come out the beds and then going back into my car, but not where they're meant to in my tool. So actually they were replacing my tours on. Then they'd swollen. I could feel this from about male five, like something's going. My feet were really bad and then take my socks off. But then I couldn't get my shoes or my socks back on, said to take all the insoles out. My trainers. I remember me and my husband and daughter and I literally walked like a sloth towards them. Just slow motion. And they just like you are a sorry state of a person.

spk_0:   4:13
If you're listening to somebody who doesn't give up, you can tell it's already just That's right away. Little coming you made their only kind of came on my five, My five. That's coming on my five. I'm leaving the race. I'm getting on the two blind. If I live in London, I'm going home for that bath that you mentioned. I'm guessing you're a kind person that if you're gonna do math and nothing will stop, you will definitely get into that finish line regardless.

spk_1:   4:32
Look, there are lots of people that really struggle to get round a marathon because of an illness or on, because it's hard. But just because it's hard is no enough reason to struggle there is challenging to everyone. I mean, Mo Farah, I presume. There some element of a challenge out there when you're sore. Kipchoge e when their sprint together from there. But for people like me is difficult is hard. But that's one of the brilliant things about the marathon. Anyone can have a go it taking part in this insane Reese, do you know? I don't know how many half marathons done done? Quite few.

spk_0:   5:08
You just like for fun. I like them. I really like you running, don't you? I like you work in the heart of London. It literally in the heart of London. That's a radio heart effort. Bait your morning show on all of them. It is so early in terms of few together is foretold Success.

spk_1:   5:24
Yeah, that's what I'm on air.

spk_0:   5:25
That's what you want. But you need to get there much earlier, presumably to

spk_1:   5:29
I mean yes. You know, I have mastered the art of getting there in time on with enough time to prep. So I I gather that have to Sometimes I have been known to snooze a significant number of time for you. A snoozer i'ma hit snooze person. So no, I do it quite often alone. Enough time to hit snooze like five times is totally pointless. If I just got up where? My lord, my law, I'd have more sleep.

spk_0:   5:54
No, no, no, you will. But I think there's a lovely psychology in snoozing. I'm on the other side of the fence With that, I think there's something about you wake up in your gap year kind of a new Karnak and you, although you don't get a minute, it's a little bonus. It feels like a bonus, whereas if it did,

spk_1:   6:10
and you can have an insane dream in eight minutes so I can have a few of them. And then I get up. Andi, I leave my host around three and then I'm at work around half past. And then I prayed my shoe on the way in and then just

spk_0:   6:26
for your house from the studio.

spk_1:   6:28
It's about 75 miles away.

spk_0:   6:30
Seven miles was so when I eat that nonchalantly because I just run home, yeah, generally think it's genius. Look, I'm all for very few, very, very few people understand how unusual that

spk_1:   6:44
way, just thinking. So I turned up to work in the morning and because I'm going to run home, I'm on the radio. I don't What do I need? So I got my phone. You can have your credit card on your phone. Okay? So you don't You don't need anything else. I have a phone holder. I just have a sleeve and take a lip gloss because that's you know you can't. Tio got my phone. I've got my house key, which have flight single down to one key. And I put that in my kind of arm wallet thing, but the fungus in their headphones on, that's a turn up for work on their right. Where's your stuff? Stuff like your stuff. Let your I'm not. I don't need anything is coming to your radio show on. I've prepped all on my phone and done all my research or whatever, and they're gonna finish the show just there. I'm good to run home

spk_0:   7:28
seven and 1/2 miles on. There's an element of freedom in all of what you just said because running to me equals freedom That there's something beautiful about running putting your trains on that you've mentioned. Actually, I'm not often in London on DH as part of a

spk_1:   7:40
great running in London. Like being a sightseer.

spk_0:   7:43
It is genuinely extraordinary. I actually love it. Where I'm staying is attached to a gym. They've got some passes just around the corner on. I went in the gym yesterday morning and I suddenly thought, What am I doing in the gym on DH? I thought ST James's Park is around the corner. What am I doing? So just running around and around ST James's Park and you go, OK, this is actually quite special,

spk_1:   8:05
because if I went to New York or if I went to New York or anywhere, actually, and I was going to smack size, the first thing I do is put my trainers on and get outside New York gold Don't centre part two Little runaround,

spk_0:   8:17
probably about to land wherever

spk_1:   8:22
I am. If I'm down, you're away. So the speed go on run along the promenade is amazing. And that's what I would do a going do some exercise, I say Go for a run. Explorer can have a look around. You get two new in the area, so I

spk_0:   8:34
think I mentioned on your podcast that I always say to people that even if you don't run a marathon, when when is there a time when a city closes for you, so they just close. I would advise anyone. Philistines is now. I think I can't do a marathon. Look, put a rucksack on Walk it. I mean, they've closed the city. Now, if you take a camera, say hello to people. Put your name on the front. Off your shirt, people you don't know Well, go, go on, Jason. Way to go, that it's a great day out, even if you don't run it. And then everything people or what is funny is that some people do find this structure in that some people that literally they couldn't even run a bath. And yet sometimes when they told you, Well, what time did you do it?

spk_1:   9:15
People are obsessed times, and actually it doesn't mean anything. And also you could tell them the time and then that questions over, and they don't know what to ask next. I think I think the time question is, is this meeting and look like they don't know? That's good. I don't what's good, though. And if you got three hours or they go good, you're still another off the winner. You know, if I say Forever's still double the time of the parents, the one that I don't know what their benchmark is for good or bad, but it's irrelevant. The fact that you ran 26.2 males is really key, and I never really bother about time. If I don't haven't often put my time up anymore, I just kind of I mean,

spk_0:   9:52
I did mine people always, inevitably, what time do you do? And I'll go quicker than you quicker than the people that didn't get out? It's always, you know, I did it faster than any of those people, that's for sure.

spk_1:   10:03
You know, when I said when, I first wanted to deal with it, as I have been running for a while on DH, I used to go to the gym on a Sunday morning and do a run on the treadmill and every year on the Sunday morning, obviously the marathon would be on the telly and I would run watching the marathon and I'd run for ages for a couple of hours on the treadmill, just watching people run number, then eventually I got to the point where I can't watch them. I should be with them and then I started making kind of like a little bit of

spk_0:   10:29
a very few people know that I used to go there with half marathons in particular ones that were obviously being televised. Andi. I would go to the gym specifically on the day and start at the same time on the treadmill, and I used to think right, Well, if they're doing it, I'm doing it. And it's a funny figures that you're the only other person I know that they ever did. That tells the nutrition, Let's get back. So I'm really bad with this. The nutrition that I was going to say is that Why? Because I know a lot of people that use juice if they will use it in the same way that you put your car in for a service, right? So you're not particularly good most of time, but actually, you need a seven day or five day put your car for service, get back out on Good to go.

spk_1:   11:06
Actually, I'm not very good nutrition. I should probably have a plan, and I should really be on top. I should plan the week, know what I'm eating. It's difficult. I got a little girl who's just turned eight. I've got a husband who's annoying

spk_0:   11:19
times. He's just joking. I'm only joking

spk_1:   11:22
between us. I'll cook my husband, go world one that Oh my God, it's a nightmare. Cooking for the family is really difficult. And so I find it quite hard to plan meals and that from I get up and go to work. Three. And I'm no hungry to one break for them and then I run afterwards. I don't really know when to have breakfast, and when I do have that, I don't know, really what

spk_0:   11:42
only, for example, you're on day three of juice and blend at the moment. So when would you fit that in? Because the timings that we have on the hour or the suggestion when you get the juice delivered. Of course there's timings or

spk_1:   11:51
I'm going rogue, totally going. You're not going to prove Listen, So Okay, so hang on. So I had juice one thing this morning at 4 a.m. But I'm on there, so I kind of sip it between four and six. That's what I do, just kind of because I'm working. So that's is there, and then I've been working constantly since then. I went to the gym straight after work, so I went to, like, a CrossFit class on then. I've been working ever since, so it's no two o'clock and I'm on Jews too.

spk_0:   12:19
Well, now you're back on the normal programme

spk_1:   12:21
has had a banana banana and I had a banana and I've been drinking water and I've had a couple of herbal teas,

spk_0:   12:29
and that is the key. You know, you got to keep hydrated and you've got to be sensible about listening to your body. We call it a hunger S O s. So banana classes, hungry Western avocado and arrest arrest. So you do this a few times and you do five days or three days or whatever the case

spk_1:   12:41
I do. I tend to do the five day one mostly this time under seven deer on. The reason idea is because the way I describe it to people is that by the end, I've done a few times, and by the end, I feel like my eyes sparkle. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I gotta have two in the morning and I'm tired. I look to the time I feel like sometimes a bit narc electrics. I fall asleep mid conversation, and it's I don't mean that in a rude way, is awful. Genuinely do fall asleep mid conversation, especially in the evenings, and it's because my days being quite long. But I do feel that if I had the right nutrition, I would probably much healthier. So what I have to do is have to reset every known again. And then there are weeks like this week, which is really busy. Andi also, I have a few shoots on and what not? And so I don't want to pump my body full of rubbish. And also, I know that if I'm busy, it's easier to stick.

spk_0:   13:29
You know, it's a great way to think, because a lot of people think the complete opposite. So what a lot people do, especially comes to nutritional health. I'm really business. There's no way it was

spk_1:   13:36
easier when you're busy, because then there's there's less temptation because you're like, OK, I'm too busy to go to the cupboard and eat those

spk_0:   13:43
agree. But if people are looking for excuses, why their particular not doing it even if they're telling themselves it, then being busy while I'm in London, I'm busy and there's too many food outlets. And there's this debt in the other. And because here, I mean, you know where I live now is complete different here in London, literally every corner There's a price on every corner. There's somebody Last night said if I lived in London again, I probably beast thiss eateries everywhere. So for you to come in and just strangers on do shoot and do a radio show. And do this when? Because when you're tired, your blood sugar levels go lower. But of course, a lot of people don't realise Is that the eating the wrong foods makes you tired.

spk_1:   14:18
See, I think I'm acclimatised to the lack of sleep. Maybe, but I need to just balance the bad food. And also yesterday I was on a shoot on was with some amazing people doing amazing and at lunchtime and came all the delicious food. Jenny, do you want something? I'm known on the hole, right, Right. Thank you. They just like, why isn't she eating? And there I am over in the corner.

spk_0:   14:42
But when you say bad foot, let's put this in perspective when you say you know I don't get on the bad. For what? What is it? I mean, I reckon, even a day in the life of Jenny Bad.

spk_1:   14:52
What is it all the storage? It's all the sugars. It's stuff that's not fresh on DH. I'm not very good cook Experiment with cooking. I I really I just hate cooking. I'll be honest. I don't like it. So I buy a lot of ready made stuff or I'll do a lot of salads or stir fries because then at least I know it's not, You know, just come in a pack, but I'm not big on convenience. Food is far too convenient for me.

spk_0:   15:15
So obviously looked really well. You exercises. Would you say exercise is more important? Not more important, but you focus much more exciting. This's

spk_1:   15:22
the promise of for me. I will work out all the time, so I therefore can think that I can turn a blind eye to the nutrition. But I think there's gonna come a point where actually that makes no difference.

spk_0:   15:30
If I wonder when that is. If you're running eight miles, I always say you can't outrun hamburger, but I think you could. I think. I think that's the difference because a lot of people make the mistake of again. They do that kind of calorie thing, that calories don't even make any sense. But they pretend they do, and they think it's the science on this. So what they do is they go actually find on the treadmill. They

spk_1:   15:47
burn the calories, they're

spk_0:   15:48
there. But there's a reason that's what they think. And so even if they trying to do that, they're not doing the mass correctly either. But if they have something like a Mars bar or something like that, they go. I'm on the treadmill now. I don't did you run outside and stuff, but when you go to a gym is the difference when going up in the gym for two hours? Fine. Have you done? But what I saw yesterday morning, they got a lot of social media done. Yeah, there's

spk_1:   16:09
a lot of people that are exactly the same as they

spk_0:   16:12
were, not only the same. They're just in a bit of social media or they're running at a pace on a treadmill that if you're there,

spk_1:   16:18
be ve ry. I think if you're gonna have a workout I want to at the end of the workout. I want to have sweat. Yeah, I want to look red in the face on I wantto have tohave a shower that's basically tick that

spk_0:   16:31
do yoga or anything like that.

spk_1:   16:33
I've done your guy in the past. I used to do hot yoga, Thank ee I liked it. And also I felt like it was a bit more dynamic really into CrossFit. I'm the strongest person in the room by a long shot, but I like lifting weights and I feel there is 20 me up on making me stronger for more running as well. You know, I love the dealer golfers. Rahm,

spk_0:   16:57
did you do any sport? You could tell that somebody who has never picked up a golf bat in his life, you know, I was trying

spk_1:   17:06
You live and you have the most amazing properties in areas where the gulf is dreams.

spk_0:   17:12
Here there is, but I mean the nightmare for May. But there you go. I mean, people love it. They get a little ball, they get any old iron, they go. Well, let's hit this little ball with an iron on. Then this walk half a mile and then did it again on Then find a flat background is knocking around somewhere with a hole in it.

spk_1:   17:28
I only started that year and 1/2 ago.

spk_0:   17:30
You were in trouble

spk_1:   17:31
and I was exactly had your ass you on. Then I started And then I realised four hours outside. You know, you carry the bag if you want and you walk faster. You do get that. Ever work out? Actually,

spk_0:   17:43
years when we got coach E

spk_1:   17:46
o train every now and again someone with

spk_0:   17:48
the inside

spk_1:   17:49
gives me like outside. So that's a driving reason

spk_0:   17:52
driving My theory is this everybody I've talked about God and maybe you've reached a year and 1/2 in and it is a great sport. I was teasing. I like to eat plenty of fresh air, plenty walks, and you can all of those things And it looks really sociable, really sociable. It looks really difficult. The challenges do you get to the point Where's this's my theory? Took off when you first start. Um, I right in thinking if you hit a good shot, you're over the moon. You've had a great day. There comes a point Soon after that. Actually, you just hate yourself. Definitely

spk_1:   18:24
our great show. And then there'll be another time where you hit the ball into abortion. That's your ball. Lost your oh, so and then you always go on. Well, that that's just a one off. Then you go again and it's straight back in the bush, Michael. And then you get yourself and then you can be really destroyed, and then you have a good show and you're like, I might

spk_0:   18:43
have a little But I mean, I just Patient

spk_1:   18:45
is just something that's really great when you finish work at 6 30 in the morning and you need to pass the time between finishing work and school pick up. And if I haven't got another job, I might Well,

spk_0:   18:53
I don't know anybody else that finishes work on. Then he's waiting to do the school run in the morning, you wake up. So I just looked through some of the info that someone like Google or Yahoo all being Don't forget this being as well probably everybody knows about your career seems kicked off in 99 for when he was on blind

spk_1:   19:11
date again. No awards as at school and the auditions came to tone on DH. It was like the circus came to town on me and on the meats were in the sixth form, journey levels. And I went Well, I think I'm gonna audition with loads of my friends when you were going to come because we thought that the answers he gave on the show were rubbish. Well, we could do better answers. And that way

spk_0:   19:34
your own answers. Waiters

spk_1:   19:36
went down to audition, and it was like X factor auditions who had to queue. There were hundreds or maybe thousands of people that applied Anyway. You get whittled down, there's more additions. And then one day I got a phone call we'd like you to. Come on, we'd like you to be a picker. So don't even have to answer to ask a question

spk_0:   19:54
that you knew you were going on the

spk_1:   19:55
date guaranteed holiday, which apparently weren't like psychology at CD. So knew was going on it. I just left school. I was waiting for a level results. Andi kind of said, that's happening. And then during my fresh er's week at Uni, I went off on film Blind date, so I turned out to you nearly people. And where have you been?

spk_0:   20:16
You didn't radio interview. From what I gather, Andi said You want to work in TV? A week later, somebody had heard the interview you for an audition for a programme. And then six weeks after after the show aired, you got your first presenting John, BBC Scotland,

spk_1:   20:28
My first, my first TV

spk_0:   20:30
job in sports, no less.

spk_1:   20:31
Well, it went on my 19th birthday, my first TV show. So it was on BBC two in Scotland, and it was it was a really great experience. I probably vomit if I saw it because it was so painful.

spk_0:   20:46
But there must be so like you said it was like Somebody comes on Blind date. Then all of a sudden they become a TV presenter. But as you've already illustrated that it's not all of a sudden.

spk_1:   20:54
I did a lot of work experience the radio station down there all the time, and then eventually, when the shoe was hearing they went, we come into a chat about Blind date. I went yes, now had already been working on working. We're volunteering in all my spare time at Uni there because I just got a real taste for telly. Otherwise, had I not gone on to blame date, I was going to uni. I was doing added Spanish, Italian and Latin on. I hoped one day, maybe to be an architect in Spain. I know that I was doing anything architectural whatsoever, but that's what's in my head. I may do.

spk_0:   21:24
So. Do you speak other languages? Used? Tio, You forgot. It was quite a

spk_1:   21:29
long time ago. Okay, fair enough. I get by. So

spk_0:   21:32
you also co host of entertainment today on Good morning television?

spk_1:   21:36
Yes. I had been presenting for six years and I don't think I TV shoes, but more factual and consumer and undercover journalism. So it was like that kind of evening slaw on. In the end, I went and met the guys at G m t v. And then when we want to create an entertainment show, would you like to present? Yeah. Entertainment was born and,

spk_0:   21:56
like Tom Cruise and will stay

spk_1:   21:57
on my first day on the job. Very first day they went Teo, for your first job, you're going to go to Venice on you're going to interview Clint Eastwood? Oh, my God, It was amazing. That was my first job for GMTV,

spk_0:   22:10
but also Tom Cruise E.

spk_1:   22:12
Yeah, I've interviewed him quite a few times if it was really interesting. So I've done quite a few things with the Royals, as in the real royal family. And then I've done a few things with Tom Cruise on that security cheques for Tom Cruise are more stringent than the art of the royal family. One of the films I did was War of the Worlds. Andi. They really like to cheque the questions because it was a bit scifi and, you know, here's Scientologists and they don't want you. Teo confuse any alien questions and mix up with religion, So there's a lot of approval that has to be done in security. And remember, he came to London one time and someone squirted water in his face. Big security issues. So they're very strict with Tom Cruise.

spk_0:   22:52
So he was.

spk_1:   22:53
He was doing an interview, and a comedian squeezed Scurti microphone is like a water pistol. Square it alternative. Obviously it could have bean. I think so. And he's so generous with his time when he comes. I mean, you say what you want about him, right? He is one of the most generous actors when it comes to giving time to the press,

spk_0:   23:11
because I have seen him on a red car hours he was going to say he comes and he realises that has taken so long to be there out in the cold. And he does self is he makes calls to their friends. I mean, he really is.

spk_1:   23:22
When I was working for J M TV, I interviewed him and I said to him, We might hear for a while. It's lovely. Spend. My mum has been on the phone to Kenya's light. Let me speak to her on a past, my phone over my mom, right? How the hell did she bring up Haggis? I mean, ever. She does not like she's a true school. She has to talk about how this is not what it is. But she somehow brought Hagar's and I'm watching him, and he's like Jeanette High, and the next minute is like a hacker's. I'd love to try some hackers something. What the hell is she saying to him? It was so funny. So they had a little conversation and then turned into this speaks to the mom.

spk_0:   24:02
And also one thing we don't bring up on a nutrition park are surely is haggis. No, I

spk_1:   24:07
would not

spk_0:   24:09
call it Mystery Food. There's a category of food as you call mystery food. So we have categories. People say These

spk_1:   24:13
protests. I used to beat it because it's what you do, and it is actually quite nice, is really tasty, but I just doing eat. Many animal products were allowed to eat any meat, so and the veggie haggis is delicious. Oh my God, It's like kind of like a bit not rusty. It is amazing. Such a nice space, so that when you do hags, meats and tattoos on burn like just do a veggie Haggis is

spk_0:   24:36
through. This film has just come out of Netflix. I want to get your view on it. It's making all the rounds, is doing big guns. It's called game Change. So the

spk_1:   24:43
plant based one I haven't watched it yet. I'm really intrigued on. Are you plant based diet person?

spk_0:   24:48
No, I am primarily. Yes. Primarily yes, but for years I was a vegan vegan. Seven years. I

spk_1:   24:55
know people that have the control to be a vey

spk_0:   24:58
well, I'm not now because I'm also a human. The thing that changed for me really was understanding to concepts. One, The human body has the ability to deal with a certain amount of anything and remain in optimum health, right? So it was designed to deal with so much of anything. Secondly, there is a rich tapestry of life to be had in the world. And what I didn't want to do is offend certain cultures or anything else. If I'm travelling the world, if I happen to be in a Bedouin tent in somewhere and somebody goes, this person's made this thing, I don't say, Oh well, I'm we free dairy free sugar free. Would

spk_1:   25:29
you eat anything that was offered to them?

spk_0:   25:31
Anything that is,

spk_1:   25:32
if you're going to do it, offends someone.

spk_0:   25:34
What did you put? No, have this bull of rabbit ties? No, no, anything. But it's hard because you look on Netflix. Now you look at any of these films. Some films will convince you to be a carnival, some convention to be a vegetarian, whatever, but actually,

spk_1:   25:46
do you think is the best way

spk_0:   25:47
I think Plant based. So there's no question, it is

spk_1:   25:49
amazing. In this documentary, huge sporting legends are crediting their incredible achievement to plant based

spk_0:   25:57
on E. I get that. But there's also a number. If you look at different documentary that will. Also there's the otherwise lyrical about the other side. I think I've said it a few times. Show realistic forecasts are apologise for repeating myself, But I think, really the enemy is white, refined fats, salts and sugars. And I think that actually, when we have two sets of people arguing about is grass fed beef better than an avocado or this that the other actually fruits, vegetables, grains that season lean proteins. I think everybody ultimately is in agreement that in the right ratio in the right balance, it will do no harm and only good on what we're really where our focus should be is against what I call the drug food industry on the manipulation of food because there's a massive manipulation food. I don't say something earlier that, you know the guy can only eat so many oranges. Yes, but once you pop, you can't stop and there's a difference on one's been formulated, essentially by scientists to compel you to eat more on the other one hasn't. So it's a really funny because people are getting really big on this is me. Okay, Is plant based okay? And I would say primarily on when you asked me just minute ago. Yes, Plant based. However, I know some very unhealthy vegetarians because they're not vegetarians. It's all what they are. They're star chair or Carberry

spk_1:   27:10
because they've just seen breads

spk_0:   27:11
with this. They haven't seen a vegetable in 20 years. Equally, I know some very unhealthy meat eaters to there in high human intervention. Me, you know, it's not grass fed. And this plus it is mystery food to see the sausages are posers. Barbecue on body can deal with something like that every now and then. Of course it can. And that's why the real argument should be against the white refined sugar mop. And I just think that actually, in between here, if we a bundle of vegetables, you know, a nice amount of fruit, whether we eat it, whether we get it in salad soup, juice blends, I think the vast majority of what we should consume is plant based. Then I think if you want some lean proteins along the way. If that's how your body functions and Ukraine fine, just make sure that it's good quality in this that

spk_1:   27:57
you see. That's what I think on the whole that we are hosts. I survive mainly on really big salad. So Saleh's filled evade Teo an avocado. But I do cook. She cannot put chicken on there as well. But avocado, definitely. Maybe some pomegranate seeds may be gruesome but not score. Shove that in there. Just do stuff like that.

spk_0:   28:17
Your torture you on day three of the Duce and blamed Iowa's must be killing. You don't have to talk about it, you know, give you a recipe book now, right? With a ll the food and the like. Porn wouldn't

spk_1:   28:29
have been interviewed for a run port, which is my running podcast. I've been interning loads of Olympians and they're saying that when they train for all these incredible Olympic events, that they're going to quite often win amazing medals at all. They want to do throw it all is eat something that's no in their diet, and the minute they win a gold medal, they will reward themselves. Like McDonald, I thought they'd go to tone. But no, they just want something like that or a pizza. It's fascinating, but that's it. They just want junk food. That's the dream scenario

spk_0:   28:59
so funny, because people honoured you. You probably be testament to this when you've done it a few times, but anybody comes in, I'll retreat genuinely. I mean, I would say 98% of people and I've been doing this for over 20 years that if you do it for five days along, if you do it well, thought through juice plan that actually do crave food at the end. But you physically want a decent salad. Awesome, because

spk_1:   29:17
you, because you've gone, I feel guilty. If I doing stick to this because I've done really well on I like the taste of really

spk_0:   29:24
good for some genuine switch for some Mr Genius, which they know they can have anything way only one. But yet they go. But I actually want a salad, you know, and sometimes think Well, how has this happened? And nobody knows. He's like we call it a reset because in seven days on the tree, people start looking at the book and start looking at the salads and everything else they're on day 52 days on

spk_1:   29:44
the retreat, though, is it easy to stick to it? They are because there's no one smuggles things in

spk_0:   29:51
while they do. We cheque your body's way stupid human rights so we can't. But we do, say two people at the beginning. If you brought any contraband in you invested time energy money coming for seven days, it's only seven days. I mean, if you can't focus for seven that you gotta ask yourself some questions. So we have people hand stuff into it were three way fact. After we found three packets of Jaffa cakes once in somebody's room, we didn't know Jaffa cake. Jaffa cakes are there. K crew office cast the V A T man in England. The housekeeping team said, What do we do? These has just taken. What will they say? I went nothing. That's the beauty of it. What they're gonna say because they're really owe you to be in court. You took. But people do hand stuff in. They want they're at the retreat, they suddenly realise, actually, only seven days. I do myself a disservice if I do that and so they're on it. But also the exercise, the sunshine, The fact that they have time to rest,

spk_1:   30:39
I bet is a bet is a really a really good sleep about. You feel

spk_0:   30:42
great. One believed the 1st 2 nights, and it's unbelievable lot people for the first time in a long time and I having alcohol, Right said. A lot of people drink wine every day. One of the cases and I'm not judging different structure from folks, but they all of a sudden they don't have any false stimulus going in their body at all. So the body just goes, I am. I'm ready for sleep on As the week goes on, the biggest thing we get, whether people's on juice like delivered or whatever it is, is people saying, I just slept that I slept better. I slept better and actually, when you get good sleep, then everything is easier in life. You come

spk_1:   31:14
home tanned until all of it, and looking at

spk_0:   31:17
people, I say the challenges you come back feeling so good, everybody always They weren't keen on you coming out anyway because I know that people are a bit weird. You can eat what you want gets bigger. You want nobody mentions anything, Have a green juice or is it safe? It's a bit weird world that we live in. But when they come on the juice climb, they come back. If they're enthusiastic about it, then of course, people go, Oh, you joined a cult movie. You've joined a cult. Did

spk_1:   31:41
people come for longer than two

spk_0:   31:42
people? Yeah, yeah, longest. Where somebody there was two months. You know, you

spk_1:   31:48
just you just use too much. Did they must have entirely changed every part of

spk_0:   31:54
you, didn't they? I mean, you got some people listen to that. Shocking. Were they overseen by Dr When somebody is genuinely morbidly obese and they have an eclectic mix off on the surface, different lifestyle diseases. People are happy for people to be liquid fed by the medical profession, but they're not happy. Teo Liquid fed by nature. So it's a very strange thing. So

spk_1:   32:16
Well, I'm quite impressed. What I was thinking most did have changed their mental outlook with well, because they've spent two months just kind of really a bit more the wing and meditating.

spk_0:   32:27
I believe your life is the result. What you feed yourself not just what you put into your mouth, but also your eyes and your ears. So while you're there, it's immersion into not just positivity into the ice because possibly a bit wishy washy. But it's about the right. Education is not. Brainwashing is counter brainwashing. You brainwashing people to eat healthfully, where you could argue people have been brainwashed to eat the wrong way. I mean, you know, nobody. There's not a toddler that suddenly woke up. I need a Pringle. You know, I don't think that ever happened. I think they were brainwashed somewhere along the line or advertising or whatever. So yes, astonishing What can be done in a week? Another Richard on the average person? 357 days more than enough as a shake up. What little reset you know, people is not sustainable is going to be sustainable for services to be stable. So the whole point is just a little. But that's what you're using.

spk_1:   33:11
Yeah, that's why it makes me makes me feel great, makes me feel great. Although I do find it, I find it hard yesterday evening D two evenings.

spk_0:   33:19
It's because I find the evening stuff

spk_1:   33:21
serving my eight year old dinner and I'm just looking at you. Cook

spk_0:   33:25
it yourself. My little fellas just turned 18 months old. I'm amazed he's not cooking already. What will you do while you still not taking care of yourself? I do have these conversations with little J. J. Things like, Well, hang on. When the draughts born, it could walk straight away. This isn't clever, you know, for little fella. Anyway, Listen, I wish I had tonnes more your podcast. I waxed lyrical about it, but I've listened to several episodes of I think It's Fantastic. If you want any inspiration to literally get running, get your body moving for different reasons than just wait, like is actually Lower Basin. It's really not focused on weight loss at all. It's about lifting the mental spirit. It's about just getting out there, feeling

spk_1:   34:05
very much away from that, because it's no, it's It's just about feeling healthy.

spk_0:   34:10
You know, you're not just for this week now, unless that's what people don't realise. Sometimes they get you, you probably get attacks. Are you promoting you on what

spk_1:   34:18
you call? There's a lot. There's calories.

spk_0:   34:20
I know they don't even get me started way revert to

spk_1:   34:23
the same is running. You don't have to run for anything other than and also a lot of people like it helps her mental state of Maine. There's a lot of advantages to running

spk_0:   34:32
shoes when it comes to gender, and there's a lot of talk about mental health right now, and there is no question that you put your shoes on. You get in the fresh air, you run around a park. I would challenge anybody no matter what mood you're in, especially in the role of running in the right, the rate if it if it's pouring down rain on a run in the rain, there must be some signs or something. I don't know. There's something that goes on where my mood is entirely different. When I come back, it really is. You just feel good. So the inspiration and it is ongoing. I mean, you're doing more upset more upstairs all the time,

spk_1:   35:00
But I tell you what. If you are going for a run, why don't you go for a run on? Put Jason's run hard episode on on guaranteed because what we like to think is it's like you're running with friends you're running. You do have to get involved in the conversation. Just listen. Which means you can save your breath on. Then we do the chatting. Run with you and you give loads of motivational tips. You will not slow down. In fact, you might find you run a little bit further or you might find you run a little bit faster. But more than anything, you just be doing it. And that's what's most important.

spk_0:   35:28
Well, I love I love report on. If you're up early enough, then obviously heart of U K through sixth in London, though. I mean, what do you got? A good listener Shipment from where? From Spain to sleep. But I

spk_1:   35:41
have a four o'clock club between four and five. Obviously. Is he having so many texts every

spk_0:   35:46
morning? People are up early these days. They want to get on it. I mean, there's a lot of pressure on people.

spk_1:   35:51
The earlier you start earlier, you finished

spk_0:   35:53
well, so they say. But actually E

spk_1:   35:55
o. I don't have enough flowers in my day, so I like starting early because then I can cram more into the rest of the day.

spk_0:   36:01
Well, the parkers inspirational. Listen to your show as well. There's times that I haven't had time to run through. Hopefully in Season three, we get you back again. They Joe is the one and only. Let's pronounce it correctly. It is Jenny.