{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":30.703,"endTime":32.763999999999996,"body":"You're listening to Podcasting Made"},{"startTime":30.703,"endTime":32.763999999999996,"body":"Simple."},{"startTime":32.763999999999996,"endTime":34.885,"body":"I'm your host, Alex Sanfilippo."},{"startTime":34.885,"endTime":39.768,"body":"For this episode's guide and resources,"},{"startTime":34.885,"endTime":39.768,"body":"please visit podprose.com slash 265."},{"startTime":40.429,"endTime":42.349,"body":"And now let's get to the episode."},{"startTime":44.03,"endTime":46.992000000000004,"body":"I want to begin by telling you about the"},{"startTime":44.03,"endTime":46.992000000000004,"body":"worst question that I ever asked in an"},{"startTime":46.992000000000004,"endTime":47.693,"body":"interview."},{"startTime":47.693,"endTime":52.096000000000004,"body":"Now at the time I was a student at Kansas"},{"startTime":47.693,"endTime":52.096000000000004,"body":"State University, Go Wildcats, and I 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