Porn - Isaiah Green & Emmy Petrie

Part 3 with former Steelers player Isaiah Green and a surprise guest, Emmy Petrie. In the following episode we cover the impact of porn, childhood wounds and God's redeeming grace. Pretty much everything you'd expect from a Gospel centered & marriage focused podcast!

Transcript

Isaiah:   0:02
thank you for listening to the distinct podcast recorded live from Fresno, California. This is the distinct podcast. And now, in their beautiful home accent and slightly by the odor of dirty diapers Your host, Nick and Andrea Johnson. Wait a minute. Don't forget the black sheep of the group. I am here on distinct ministries Snake Andrea and my good friend We just met, but she's still my good friend. Emmy Petri.

Emmy:   0:42
Hello. Uh, the igniter and really talk. She

Nick:   0:48
was sitting on the sidelines, but she was just too much. We had to have her on. So maybe if you give us a little bit about your past, then we may be able to better understand where you're coming from.

Emmy:   1:00
Absolutely. So I was born in a small town in Iowa and I'm like, there's so much that has happened in my life. I'm like, how do we get it all now? But this is just the first of many someone arrest in that. But, um, I was molested when I was young, and that really changed my life, which I didn't realize how much it changed my life until being an adult and seeing how much my false identity has been in sex and I went to the University of Iowa and my degree was partying. That's left a lot of scars and a lot of damage that's followed me into my marriage that I can't that I honestly don't know how to deal with. But God is big enough to deal with, like so I'm in I to be honest, I'm raw and, um, still figuring this stuff out. But God is really Oh, he's big, bigger. I like I like Mama's.

Isaiah:   1:49
We're gonna call you Mama E. I love Mom and Dad even calling each other. Dad, I'm like, Okay, his marriage. OK. D'oh! You call. I know

Drea:   1:59
I call you Daddy.

Emmy:   2:02
There's so many facets toe what sex is meant to be, I believe, And so there's wounds that come with for me because I was at such a young age. Melissa Walls for raped at 15 just a lot of men. This is all I'm good for. And then so I have these feelings. When I was at a young age, that's like, Why am I feeling this anger inside? I'm feeling this in me, but I cannot identify what it is and just being able to step back in, Like, what is that? And then also really thinking about sex as serving are our spouse. What if we really were to do what God says to do? Insects. It's just served one another. Not what do I get out of it, right?

Nick:   2:46
Yeah. To see, I'm thinking about porn. Porn? A selfish. Yeah, I think the actual actually porn porn. Aaah! Yeah, the meaning is selfish.

Isaiah:   2:56
Set out to say, Yeah, I also wanted to add, You know, um, maybe you said something about your self worth. You know, when you're going to be sexual actions like, Oh, this all I'm worth And honestly, you know, we talked about being really I feel like I can't talk about sex because I'm single. I'm not married right now, right? So I feel like, Oh, I can't even jump in on this conversation. You know, they're like, Oh, he's single, you know, having sex. What? You know, I saw you know, I don't tell the church army church. Um, no, but you know, I'm not living in sin. We'll say that when I say seeing missing the mark. Because I just believe that as a single. I'm learning that women aren't objects, right? I think that due to we've all, as we've heard in the previous episodes, that everyone should go back and listen to. We've heard about, you know, Andrew's trauma. We've heard about Emmys. Trumbull. We've heard about the trauma. You've heard about my trauma like we've experienced trauma toe, where six has been a part of deceiving healing, right, like, Oh, we feel like we can have sex and it makes me feel right feel are self worth. But I think where I'm at in my journey was sex. It's like this God has shown me like, this is not all this young lady's worth, but as a man, I'm contributing to the lack of her self worth by treating her like an object like, Oh, we're just having six. But you were worth more than that, you know? And, you know, I had to, uh, my last relationship we were, And it was very tough because, you know, I had a heart for, like, I love this one, but it was like, you know, I can't give you a commitment, and you deserve that, you know? So I think as a single man learning, understanding how God sees women, you know, and how our actions as men can either help or hurt the woman's worth perception of herself. You know what I mean? Um, so I apologize to all the women out there, You know what I mean? Thank you. But, you know, this is just where my my process, where God has me is like, Yo, you were worth something. And me showing use your worth is a I can't do that, or I can't be with you or, you know, just remind you worth more than that. So I'm not gonna have sex with you. You know what I mean? I really commend them, you know. Thank you. No, I just think that's where God is. Because I've heard people of our people have a lot of women, you know?

Emmy:   5:33
And that's I think, with pornography, which is just It's so sad because they hear from men multiple times, just like the fate they don't want to.

Nick:   5:42
I can say that drain. I walked through that, and, uh, it's been good to remind her. Like I hear your concern and focus on I can't match up as if That's what the man's looking at and, uh, you know, to talk to some of the region leaders. It's been reassuring to know it's not about who I'm looking at. It's not even about seeing something naked. It's a and you get the opportunity. And anyone listen, gets opportunity to believe what I'm saying right now that I think about that,

Isaiah:   6:10
it's not.

Nick:   6:11
It's about and in my mind, feeling desired. Eso When you witness a guy innit? In a in a

Isaiah:   6:19
porn in a video. Okay,

Nick:   6:24
when you witness that, that's what you're going after is Ah, that's what it looks like to be submitted to, to feel desired, to be this dominant. It's everything Satan wants you to think that sex is. That's what it is. It has nothing to do with who it is. I mean, I've said it before. It could be a goat. It could be, doesn't matter like looks. And I feel like it's just like the conversation that drain I will often have. Would you find attractive in a guy's? Is that the grey hair? Is that the Is that the jokes or so the characteristics and even some of these could be slightly on. But I have to remind myself it's about the attention that the female is receiving. And I think that those air very similar things, where for the guy, it's it's not necessarily the looks that while it's talked about, it's the feeling received. You

Isaiah:   7:11
know, I don't want to. I just want to say this and I stay away from the goats. It is getting very. But that's a real And I think as I'm here, you speak. I have to realize, too. I find myself in a space like Okay, why do you do it? I know for me the most vulnerable. Like when I wake up from naps, there's nothing else on my mind is like, Oh, I want to feel desired doors like, oh, vulnerable. And I'm feeling some type of way, you know, as a single man. I'm not living with my wife or anything. I'm like, Okay, what's on my iPhone? You know what I mean?

Nick:   7:46
They say that the most dangerous thing in the world is a bored man

Isaiah:   7:50
in Israel, and wow, that is so real. That is the

Nick:   7:55
truth. I think in terms of vulnerability, if I'm alone, danger zone if I'm tired, they would. They say hall hungry, angry, lonely, Tired.

Isaiah:   8:05
Is that the being?

Nick:   8:06
Yeah. All you need to halt because you're hungry, angry, lonely or tired. I would add another h to that. But I

Isaiah:   8:12
mean yeah, wait for it, baby.

Nick:   8:20
I mean, that makes me think so. I guess it would be around the table. How do you guys guard against temptation? Do you have, like, actual things that you put in place

Emmy:   8:31
before we dive in a temptation? I just wanna like, finish my thought, Just like with saying that my insecurities are with porn, that God is also revealing to me that I can't control what my husband does. I can't control anything. And it's the enemy. It's Satan that's coming in insane. You're not good enough. You're not worthy. Those are lies from the pit of hell. And so what do I need to do is with temptation with what your question is, Take those thoughts captive and filter. Is this true through? Is this a lie? Because sometimes it's hard to tell in you can hear voices in your head. So then I need to start speaking the truth out loud. So I can hear it. Um, but then I guess to fault with that question, Um, right now with region, I like letting people in, and it's taken a lot, but, um, like I am struggling right now and I'm I still struggle or may fall through them just but by knowing that these other women No, and I just it just gives They don't even have to respond. But it's just me being honest, like, Hey, I'm starting with us and I want to do this right now Or do

Nick:   9:37
you actually make that call?

Emmy:   9:39
I text you. I actually have a texting

Nick:   9:42
her, and I have tried that. I mean, you have to, I think even this and having a talk about it, putting it out there and stirring that pot, getting people talking. It's gonna help people in those situations. Uh, like I have a friend who I'll do that I'll text occasionally and often that friend ends up being her now where we have something on our fridge and it almost seems like a behavioral modification kind of thing. But her knife sat down, we talked about it, talked about my heart and my desires, and in my flesh and said, All right if I find myself in a spot where I'm tempted Oh, go

Isaiah:   10:15
away you go finish

Nick:   10:17
that. That number one I mean, I'm praying I'm praying I'm thinking of versus I'm trying to call on God for my help. I need you. I need you Get me out of the spot. And then the next thing is, I'm contacting her from taxing looking for accountability. Um, And then, like I said on the previous episode, open door, the physical door, Where can I leave that area? And I have failed at that. Ah, lot. But there are actually times where that has worked. And I think at I heard Matt Chandler talk about it where it was. While it seems like behavioral modification is showing that person that you're serious about changing that I do. Seriously, when I ask you to believe me, I don't want to. Here's some actions to prove that that I don't want to. I'm serious. I'll actually take these steps. Yeah, First call. I

Isaiah:   11:08
mean, she's

Nick:   11:08
like, Are you Did you are you leaving the room on? That does help. I had a question for

Isaiah:   11:14
you, Dre. A, um So when? And I think that's pretty cool like you, too, that you can take your wife and say, Hey, still, when I'm struggling with looking at point right now,

Nick:   11:27
that's exactly how the

Isaiah:   11:28
text goes, right? That's not right. You know, I just I really think that's so admirable. Like, honorable. You know what? I'm admirable. Admirable. Right. Okay, cool. Graduate. But how do you feel as a woman? Um, and whether Priore did it take some time? Like, how do you feel? Are you kind of touched on earlier? When Nick, since those messages, like, what type of spaces that put you in? Does that put you in the space? Do you have grace to kind of make you feel some time away first or like, what's your process for what's being your process?

Drea:   12:04
Well, I mean, as soon as I get those tax, I'm like, Oh, great. Here we go again. You know, thinking I had and like, I don't I don't want that for him, and I don't. But I don't want himto look to me either, besides God. And so it's like, Okay, pray first and then I'll send him a text. Bach and prayer that. Hey, I'm praying for you. Yeah, Um it also depends on the day, too. Because sometimes I could be, like, really like, Are we really doing this because we just got done doing something right? And it doesn't matter, because in what, um, before we had thought that Okay, well, if we just have sex every day or we do something every day, you'll be good, you know? But that then turned into something where he was relying on that now and then, always sexing me like, Hey, I need something. But it's still, um, hard to take in hard to hear, like he still struggles with that But remembering though, that it's his flesh. And that's not something that he actually wants and desires to. D'oh!

Emmy:   13:11
You really hit the nail on the head on multiple things there. And the biggest thing is it depends on the day because it depends on the day if I text. But then in the past just being completely honest when marriage has been hard, I don't head into my sin. And I was loving It feels good. I like it, but wow, the effect that it had on my marriage and then the bitterness that I mean that just it's just Satan's false promises. I hope this is gonna be good. No, it's not. And, um, recognizing that and I've been a wife to were had a husband come to me, and it depends on the day, but really, if I take myself out of it, I'm so thankful that my husband came to me because in the past he didn't come to me. He kept me in the dark. And so I think that's a huge thing, is like It hurts, but you're walking in the light and I respect that. Wow, nothing.

Nick:   14:12
You've told me something like that where I mean it's It's scary for me to every single time, tell you, because every single time that comes up, the thought is I can just get away with this. I can not say anything, and inevitably it comes out. I end up confessing it to you, sometimes an hour later. Sometimes it's like almost a day later, Um,

Drea:   14:36
but I feel like understanding that it is a scary thing to confess that to your spells, I mean, I may not have liked the porn issue, but I just keep thinking about my affair and where I was odd and with this man And

Isaiah:   14:53
what moon What? Go get me. Oh, wait.

Drea:   15:04
So just thinking about the guy and just like how you think it's so much fine on and in in the moment of it. And as soon as you're done, it's like you feel the guilt. You feel the shame, and then you're around your spells O r. Somebody anybody, and it's like, Oh, gosh, you have that deep feeling Like I just got done doing this with this guy. I just got done looking at something, and I I and I already know in neck. Like when he comes over, he comes home or something and he's just acting funny.

Isaiah:   15:43
Well, he's not acting himself like make right,

Drea:   15:46
right, And I and I can imagine that's how I was, too, when I came back home from work and

Nick:   15:52
what you're avoiding your ice. Anybody would isolate themselves. They don't want to deal with it. They're gonna be quiet. That's where I was.

Isaiah:   15:59
That's what sin does know. You know, we look back in the garden, you know, got when Adam and Eve ate their fruit. They was hide. You know, they ran from God, You know what I mean? E

Emmy:   16:11
feel like Satan comes in. It's like here's ah party at the Playboy Mansion. It's all funny and then gone. And then you got all the cleanup we've got all. I mean, just any part of man has ever been to a big part. But just like the mess and the gunk that's there to clean up back afterwards, like seems nowhere around. But who is God is there? Yes. And even though gods like, sent you guys, this isn't the best decision. I'm gonna let you do it. And even though he's not thrilled with it, he's still a heavenly, loving father. That's gonna you know,

Drea:   16:41
And then he calls you and says, Hey, what what are you doing? What did you guys d'oh! And then that's our point. That's our time to say out loud and confess that I mean, I'm just thinking of Genesis.

Nick:   16:54
It makes me think, um, for anybody that's kind of struggling with that is either gone through or found out. Um, I can speak for myself and maybe you can back me up. But having that affair, even watching porn or whatever it is giving into that sin, never satisfying like you think. And, uh, for somebody that has experienced being the victim and also the person that's done the wounding. But from the victim's standpoint, I always think it must have been so awesome for her to do what she did. And then I can I can rely it. I can look back at my own past or hear from her that know her sin was not enjoyable. It's not what you think. And, ah, I would encourage people to walk in that light and have those tough talks with your spouse, because I think that that's where we've done the most. Hailing is being ableto openly say, Hey, I'm gonna ask you all these really deep questions right now like I to be riel size And what What was it like? And where were you and make that person in a painful way, reliving and me relive that pain?

Drea:   18:02
What did you search?

Isaiah:   18:03
Yeah, but to get

Nick:   18:04
those answers, uh, eliminates my imagination from what she did.

Isaiah:   18:09
You know what? And as a person who has been, um, cheated on and I haven't been faithful in time too so you know. But I'm the same way that, like a man thing, because I'm gonna save them. I need to know details. Yes, Because if not, my mind is going to just imagine. And that's for me. That's just the worst thing. Like, Wait, you know, I can only imagine Isaiah's imagination, bro. Dude, I need thio. No, but, you know, I think as I've grown older it so as a married couple under question. First of all, I want to again Thank you too, for your honesty. Like just being able to speak about it. I just think that's so dope. Like, I believe that God is gonna use U two's marriage to just do wonderful things. Like I just believe it. And and and in singles and in singles, because as a single person, I'm always asking the question. Well, do I know about Can I ask about your path? Right? You know how far is too far? Should I know about your past? You don't know about. You know what? Your number, you know? I mean, like, do all those things like are those things like promise authority and you know what I mean. Um, but when you guys, you guys seem pretty open about talking about the fair and things like everything that you guys been through. Does it still kind of hurt a little bit for you, too? I had he could not wait. He was like, I had a pretty cool analogy of all right

Nick:   19:43
that I didn't I don't know how it came up in my head, but have you seen X men? The original Axeman? Uh, yeah. So, uh oh, my gosh. I'm blanking on Wolverine to name Huge again. Okay, Yeah. Logan. So there's ah, he's in the car is the very 1st 1 and he's just got out of a bar fight. His claws are out. Come back in in. Rogue is sitting there next to him, and he's kind of staring at the bloody knuckles and she's like, Does it hurt? He's like, every time. And that's exactly how I feel. Is that every time it comes up, yeah, yeah, be a joke. And you'd be lying to say it doesn't hurt, but it's not. We know it's not the end of the world,

Emmy:   20:19
man. Okay, so this is probably a totally different episode, But on what real forgiveness looks like, Right, Because I think about that, Like in my hurts and my marriage, Just like, yes, I forgive you. But then my twisted minds like, Well, if I forgive you, then I should be hurt anymore. And I'm like, Okay. And I forgive you. So I can't feel what I'm feeling where now I'm learning like, No, I forgive you, but my feelings are still valid. That's still really hurt me. I love you, and I forgive you, but but it still stings. And I need to be honest and open about that.

Isaiah:   20:49
Yeah, that's good for giving this, Dre, what about you Out. There's, um because I know you use two sides to the story and not just that are, say, the, um, that incident per se. But I know you. You shared affair. Yeah. Yeah. So how does that how do you do with that now, too?

Drea:   21:06
I think about it. And I mean, I guess, like, if I think about the affair that he did that happened, um, I can easily go right back to the day that he first told me and be angry all over again. But knowing that I have that we have a bigger gone, and I just know that he's forgiven me. He's priming him, and I need to show that same grace and forgiveness that he's shown me

Isaiah:   21:36
a man. E mail forgiveness. Wow, that's beautiful. It's so hard. You know, Amy brought her forgiveness and glue. We talked about not glorifying the scene, but glorifying Christ. You brought him forgiveness. That's glorifying Christ. Thank you for that.

Emmy:   21:51
Thank you. And I guess I hadn't said I'm married for you. I'm not a single lady. Um,

Nick:   21:57
two hours later,

Emmy:   22:01
um, but with the three of us, I t in Andrea and Emmy, we all have dad wounds. And, um, I just realized that that's been really difficult for me lately. And, um, with father's that just think that people haven't good father. I guess my dad did the best he could. He didn't know. He doesn't know the Lord, but it's made it very difficult to understand God's love for me because of my earthly father. And so I'm getting into a season like man, I really need to forgive my dad, and I'm working on that. But also before you can forgive, you have to acknowledge what happened. And, um, I guess I'm in that stage right now. I just

Nick:   22:45
I talked to somebody. He, uh, was a pastor from a church who will be on hopefully the next episode. I was talking about that In order to get there, you can have to relive it, which could be I mean, it's a trauma. Painful,

Emmy:   22:58
painful. It's messy. It doesn't feel good, but it's needed because God can heal that. We've got to get this, you know, puss and ickiness. We gotta debris this burn, this hot mess because, girls, it's what I recognize is that I have, like, armor I put on to protect myself. But I've had it on since I was a little girl was I also had a trump like a 2.5, and, um, I'm recognizing, like, what the heck think this armor is like my skin is growing on top of it, and God starting to break, pry it up and get some savvy underneath there, but it's it's painful. It really is painful. But I believe it's taken 15 years to really trust. Got Neto, leave faithful and like, all right, I finally trust you. He's got what's best. You said that in an earlier episode that God's not going to give you something that's your take away something that's not a greater You said it much more delicate thing.

Nick:   23:51
She said, God would never ask you to give up something greater for something lesser. Yeah, it's always something greater. Uh, yeah, I think of when we had put everything out there, why I'd put everything out there. It was just that we were trying to heal, and I wasn't fully exploring everything. And so it really did take a moment of Do I truly trust God with my marriage at that point, Like I gotta trust God and that's where Why I say I was led up to allege was like, You trust God. But do you trust him with your marriage? Or I could think of Abraham. Do you trust him with you know, your son? Do you really trust him and being put up to the test on that?

Drea:   24:32
And I feel like that's like an everyday thing for me. I can't I It's hard to say that one day can say, Oh, I trust him. I trust him now and then not to say the next morning I'm gonna wake up. And how'm I gonna fill that day? Like I'm just saying in my own humanness, like, really? Like, Can I actually trust him that my daughter is gonna be okay? You know, when she's sick or has something happens to her? Like, do I know that I'm really gonna feel that trust for God in that moment of trauma are tragedy like

Emmy:   25:04
And I just want to say it with the two of you with your trusting God is so beautiful because, well, and maybe I'm wrong. But just as an outsider, what I've been kind of taught in the church is when it's an affair like, that's a biblical reason. Oh, yeah, you know, But so So you had that. But so but looking at how God is using you, how goddess strength you how God is showing redemption because divorce rate is so high. I mean, it's got to be more than 50%. Think it's this because it's people don't know what it really is. Nothing.

Drea:   25:41
I just feel like when if you were to get a divorce, that that just shows the hardness of your hurt.

Nick:   25:46
Yeah, it's good I think that it's tough. It does take two people. You know, We've witnessed a lot of people that there's someone that's really fighting for their marriage and the other won't do that. Um, but in the case that to our it's gonna be a fight, it's gonna not gonna be pretty. There will be a lot of forgiveness and grace needed. And

Emmy:   26:04
when. What? A gift to your Children are being in broken homes because real and honestly, like when the days are tough, that's what I think about because of the trauma and how the broken home has affected me. I will not pass down that generation.

Nick:   26:21
We sat at the counter when I have found out in someone. Text me, Michael, text me at the guy that did our intra and he said, Ah, your marriage has no hope without Jesus And that was in for me. That was the marker and the game changer, and I was like, I'm committed, I'm all in. Whatever it takes, I'll fight on. And then for her, I think maybe a a day later that day I was like, You know, I can forgive you and it came down to I don't know if I want to do is for you. And eventually jury said all right for the kids. And I would encourage people going through wherever you're at in your walk. Find something. I imagine it like you're falling down a dark hole. Grab on to whatever until you find better footing. Find something to go against divorce school. We can say that biblically. We know God's will for your marriage if you're married. We know

Emmy:   27:13
goddess for marriage,

Nick:   27:15
right? While it maybe biblically allowed because of infidelity, you're cheating or whatever it is. Um, it only ultimately shows the hardness of your heart.

Emmy:   27:27
And I feel if you have a way out, you're gonna take away up. It's not until marriage that I learn that one. I understand why people get divorced. And two, I understand why people kill people like I say that doing, But also just say it.

Isaiah:   27:42
And I understand why I'm not married now. Here it is, right there. There is just

Emmy:   27:50
like, just the honest, real emotion that come up, and especially when you have two broken homes and you've got all this baggage and you, how are you going to deal with this, it gets messy.

Nick:   28:00
Yeah. Yeah, well,

Isaiah:   28:02
that's, you know, you look at our relationship with Christ. How often do we go against his word, or how often do we trespass? Or how often do we rebuild their sin, You know, And it's because he first loved us that we're able to love others. You know, I work with the young kids. I'm not married, but I work with kids and, ah, man, you You talk about trying to help on having a heart for kid, you know? But they're not seeing their self worth or not knowing who they are yet. And, you know, you want to give everything to help them. And, you know, you pour everything into him in, you know, they go the other way, or, you know, do would they're not asked to do, or whatever the case may be. You're like, Come on, you gotta get it. And I remember one day sitting in my car

Emmy:   28:54
was like, Wow, God, is this how you feel? E. I

Isaiah:   28:57
was like, Grace, Grace, forgiveness. Love like this is what it iss. You know, this is because I that's how I act towards the Lord. That's how I act towards Christ. You know, we all do, because we're fallen people, you know. And that's why God sent his son to cover our sins to get back up. You know, we fall down. Not under the law, but okay, Lord, thank you for your Thank you for your blood that covers me lower. Put it out there walking the light, confess it toe one. Another confessor to him have grace on each other. Forgive. And we just keep putting one foot in front of the other.

Emmy:   29:33
And remember that his mercies air New every morning is a new day for yesterday. Whatever stumbles happened. Today's a new day and a

Isaiah:   29:40
new day. So now you know, I I just say I say that to say, like me and I, I command you to for being committed to forgiveness, being committed to love, being committed to Christ, You know what I mean? And it's showing, because I know is that humans, like, you know, that hurts. We've you know, we've all been in certain spaces and I'm sure a lot of listeners have been a certain spaces Where a That person hurt me, you know? But your commitment to Christ allows you to to be committed to each other. And your God is just using. You are so many with man.

Emmy:   30:17
And I just said you're gonna help a lot of people on be used in a lot of ways. But I again want to say you already have just within my marriage just within coming here today. Just inspired man away. It got to use. I don't know. I can't describe it. But God knows what it is, and God did it. So he's using. You are ready. I think it's gonna be awesome. Journey ahead. I'm stoked to be a part of it.

Isaiah:   30:41
It might be bad. E. Do it. I think

Nick:   30:47
that's a good place to end right there to switch gears completely. Meeting

Isaiah:   30:52
on the mind of the minds Everybody. Meeting of the minds is a social. It's a mixer for young professionals, established professionals, married, single. We want to create an experience where you can come enjoy like minded individuals. See how established professionals of upcoming professionals along their journeys share their journey with you and there's gonna be wine. There's gonna be coffee. There's going to be appetizer is just gonna live man Say life you like So music Come half a good night. Leave a kid at home but the event is free. You gotta pay for your baby sitter. The event is free. Come have a good night with us. Meet new people. See Oh faces Enjoy. Evening out Meeting of the Monets August 1st 6 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. Thursday August 1st and it's a free event. Check chancy part if you want to know more, Follow me at stand up guy, underscore I g That's my instagram Stand a guy Underscore i g

Emmy:   31:54
and you are a stand up guy. Oh,

Isaiah:   31:56
thank you. Thank you way

Nick:   31:58
Want to thank you guys for coming over and for being a part of this. Looking forward to many more episodes like you said with you guys on it and just having people kind of glean into your lives.

Drea:   32:08
Oh, thank you so much for being here

Isaiah:   32:11
having this. Alright, guys, Till next time, I guess. Have a good one. For additional information about distinct ministries, go two distinct ministries dot org's. You can also follow the distinct podcast on Facebook and instagram and email your questions and comments toe Andrea at distinct ministries dot org's Don't tell it, Sergio. Me