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Thank"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1521.21,"endTime":1524.51,"body":"you to Ian and his publicist for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1524.51,"endTime":1527.42,"body":"making this interview happen."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1524.51,"endTime":1527.42,"body":"And I hope you all have a great"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1527.42,"endTime":1529.73,"body":"rest of your day and remember to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":1527.42,"endTime":1529.73,"body":"shoot for the moon"}]}