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Thank"},{"speaker":"Jimmy Gnecco","startTime":4369.38,"endTime":4370.49,"body":"you. It's good"},{"speaker":"Jimmy Gnecco","startTime":4369.38,"endTime":4370.49,"body":"stories."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4370.67,"endTime":4375.26,"body":"Okay, see you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4370.67,"endTime":4375.26,"body":"later. Okay. Bye bye. Well, my"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4375.26,"endTime":4378.65,"body":"mind was blown was yours. I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4375.26,"endTime":4378.65,"body":"mean, he almost joined Velvet"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4378.65,"endTime":4383.06,"body":"Revolver in Stone Temple Pilots."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4378.65,"endTime":4383.06,"body":"So I find that fascinating. It"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4383.06,"endTime":4385.91,"body":"was, the part that's so"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4383.06,"endTime":4385.91,"body":"interesting is basically was him"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4386.12,"endTime":4388.91,"body":"not wanting to do it instead of"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4386.12,"endTime":4388.91,"body":"you know, somebody else beating"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4388.91,"endTime":4392.9,"body":"him out or them turning him"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4388.91,"endTime":4392.9,"body":"down. He basically turned both"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4392.9,"endTime":4396.11,"body":"of those bands down from what it"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4392.9,"endTime":4396.11,"body":"sounds like. So I'd be curious"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4396.29,"endTime":4398.93,"body":"to have the guys from Velvet"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4396.29,"endTime":4398.93,"body":"Revolver and some Temple Pilots"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4398.96,"endTime":4401.9,"body":"on the show, to hear their"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4398.96,"endTime":4401.9,"body":"thoughts on the whole thing and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4401.9,"endTime":4404.51,"body":"what they thought of Jimmy in"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4401.9,"endTime":4404.51,"body":"his audition or whatever,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4405.02,"endTime":4408.74,"body":"definitely respect Jimmy's voice"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4405.02,"endTime":4408.74,"body":"and his music. Check out the new"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4408.74,"endTime":4412.85,"body":"self titled album from ours, and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4408.74,"endTime":4412.85,"body":"hit up their website for current"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4412.85,"endTime":4415.88,"body":"tour dates. And of course, make"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4412.85,"endTime":4415.88,"body":"sure to follow them on social"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4415.88,"endTime":4418.7,"body":"media. And while you're on"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4415.88,"endTime":4418.7,"body":"there, hey, you could give my"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4418.7,"endTime":4423.05,"body":"show a follow or myself on"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4418.7,"endTime":4423.05,"body":"Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4423.05,"endTime":4427.13,"body":"Tik Tok all that crap. You'll"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4423.05,"endTime":4427.13,"body":"stay up to date with future"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4427.13,"endTime":4430.16,"body":"episodes. And you can also"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4427.13,"endTime":4430.16,"body":"subscribe to the show on YouTube"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4430.16,"endTime":4433.52,"body":"or Spotify or Apple podcasts"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4430.16,"endTime":4433.52,"body":"wherever you listen. And if you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4433.52,"endTime":4436.88,"body":"are on Youtube, if you happen to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4433.52,"endTime":4436.88,"body":"be on there besides subscribing,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4436.88,"endTime":4440.09,"body":"if you hit the like button, and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4436.88,"endTime":4440.09,"body":"maybe throw me a comment, check"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4440.09,"endTime":4443.06,"body":"out some of the other interviews"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4440.09,"endTime":4443.06,"body":"I've done. That helped me out a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4443.06,"endTime":4445.37,"body":"lot and I think you'll enjoy"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4443.06,"endTime":4445.37,"body":"some of the other interviews"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4445.37,"endTime":4448.88,"body":"that I've done. And thank you so"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4445.37,"endTime":4448.88,"body":"much for listening. Have a great"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4448.88,"endTime":4452.15,"body":"rest of your day and remember to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4448.88,"endTime":4452.15,"body":"shoot for the moon"}]}