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There's St. Jude's out"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3381.96,"endTime":3384.45,"body":"there to kind of help help with"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3384.45,"endTime":3388.74,"body":"that because of the terrible"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3384.45,"endTime":3388.74,"body":"thing. Yeah. Cool. All right."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3388.74,"endTime":3390.9,"body":"Well, thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3388.74,"endTime":3390.9,"body":"doing this. And yeah, I'll see"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3390.9,"endTime":3393.72,"body":"you on Tucson the summer. I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3390.9,"endTime":3393.72,"body":"guess it'll be hot as hell. 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So"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3402.48,"endTime":3404.61,"body":"that should be fun."},{"speaker":"Paul Taylor","startTime":3404.79,"endTime":3408.33,"body":"Cool, man. Yep. Oh,"},{"speaker":"Paul Taylor","startTime":3404.79,"endTime":3408.33,"body":"we'll be in touch and okay. So"},{"speaker":"Paul Taylor","startTime":3408.33,"endTime":3410.67,"body":"literally, I'll play some of"},{"speaker":"Paul Taylor","startTime":3408.33,"endTime":3410.67,"body":"that stuff. Yeah. Okay."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3410.85,"endTime":3412.89,"body":"Cool. Sounds good."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3410.85,"endTime":3412.89,"body":"Thanks so much. See you later."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3413.13,"endTime":3417.09,"body":"Thank you, man. Bye bye. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3413.13,"endTime":3417.09,"body":"again to Paul Taylor for coming"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3417.09,"endTime":3420.75,"body":"on the show. Make sure to check"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3417.09,"endTime":3420.75,"body":"out the winger website for tour"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3420.75,"endTime":3423.33,"body":"dates and follow Paul and winger"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3420.75,"endTime":3423.33,"body":"on social media for more"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3423.33,"endTime":3427.17,"body":"updates. Paul's Instagram is"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3423.33,"endTime":3427.17,"body":"fun. He posts some good stuff on"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3427.17,"endTime":3430.41,"body":"there. That's how I found him."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3427.17,"endTime":3430.41,"body":"I'm on there too. If you want to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3430.41,"endTime":3435.06,"body":"follow me, my podcast account,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3430.41,"endTime":3435.06,"body":"and on Instagram and my podcast"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3435.15,"endTime":3438.3,"body":"on tick tock, I post short clips"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3435.15,"endTime":3438.3,"body":"of the episodes and get a little"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3438.3,"endTime":3442.29,"body":"preview. And make sure to follow"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3438.3,"endTime":3442.29,"body":"me somewhere or subscribe to the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3442.29,"endTime":3445.71,"body":"show on Spotify or Apple"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3442.29,"endTime":3445.71,"body":"podcasts or YouTube. Wherever"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3445.71,"endTime":3449.73,"body":"you listen to watch. We have"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3445.71,"endTime":3449.73,"body":"some exciting guests coming up"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3449.76,"endTime":3453.48,"body":"some music related people some"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3449.76,"endTime":3453.48,"body":"non music related people all"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3453.48,"endTime":3456.51,"body":"super interesting, in my"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3453.48,"endTime":3456.51,"body":"opinion. I love to keep the show"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3456.51,"endTime":3459.42,"body":"eclectic. It keeps it fun for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3456.51,"endTime":3459.42,"body":"me, and hopefully for the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3459.42,"endTime":3463.44,"body":"listeners too. So hope you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3459.42,"endTime":3463.44,"body":"enjoyed this episode. I do want"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3463.44,"endTime":3467.94,"body":"to make a short announcement. We"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3463.44,"endTime":3467.94,"body":"recently had a friend of mine"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3468.45,"endTime":3472.2,"body":"passed away unexpectedly in a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3468.45,"endTime":3472.2,"body":"car wreck. So I'd like to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3472.2,"endTime":3477.0,"body":"dedicate this episode to her."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3472.2,"endTime":3477.0,"body":"Not that she was a big fan of of"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3477.03,"endTime":3479.82,"body":"Paul Taylor wing or any of that"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3477.03,"endTime":3479.82,"body":"stuff. But she was just a good"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3479.82,"endTime":3483.99,"body":"friend, April. Well, I'm"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3479.82,"endTime":3483.99,"body":"thinking about you. So I just"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3483.99,"endTime":3489.51,"body":"want to dedicate this to her and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3483.99,"endTime":3489.51,"body":"she was very inspirational. So"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3490.11,"endTime":3493.05,"body":"life is short. So just something"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3490.11,"endTime":3493.05,"body":"to think about for everybody."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3493.35,"endTime":3496.2,"body":"Thanks for listening. Have a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3493.35,"endTime":3496.2,"body":"great rest of your day and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3496.2,"endTime":3497.25,"body":"remember to shoot for the moon"}]}