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Well,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3630.3,"endTime":3632.73,"body":"the new album from womb to tomb."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3632.73,"endTime":3635.58,"body":"It's great stuff. And like I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3632.73,"endTime":3635.58,"body":"said, very mature songwriting. I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3635.58,"endTime":3639.48,"body":"enjoy it. I think people will"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3635.58,"endTime":3639.48,"body":"like it. Like you said, it's the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3639.48,"endTime":3641.67,"body":"best album that you put out is"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3639.48,"endTime":3641.67,"body":"what you feel right?"},{"speaker":"Steve Blaze","startTime":3641.82,"endTime":3644.16,"body":"I do. I really"},{"speaker":"Steve Blaze","startTime":3641.82,"endTime":3644.16,"body":"honestly do. It's our Opus."},{"speaker":"Steve Blaze","startTime":3644.61,"endTime":3645.75,"body":"Yeah, very cool. Well,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3645.75,"endTime":3647.64,"body":"I hope to hear some"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3645.75,"endTime":3647.64,"body":"of the songs live, if not the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3647.64,"endTime":3650.97,"body":"whole thing. That'd be cool. But"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3647.64,"endTime":3650.97,"body":"at least some of them and some"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3650.97,"endTime":3651.96,"body":"of the classics too."},{"speaker":"Steve Blaze","startTime":3652.02,"endTime":3654.96,"body":"So. Thanks for"},{"speaker":"Steve Blaze","startTime":3652.02,"endTime":3654.96,"body":"having me on the show, man. It's"},{"speaker":"Steve Blaze","startTime":3654.96,"endTime":3656.01,"body":"been a pleasure talking. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3656.04,"endTime":3657.69,"body":"Thanks for coming"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3656.04,"endTime":3657.69,"body":"on. It's a lot of fun. Now, a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3657.69,"endTime":3660.42,"body":"lot of good stories. Good man."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3657.69,"endTime":3660.42,"body":"You take care yourself. We'll"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3660.42,"endTime":3663.63,"body":"talk to you to see you later."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3660.42,"endTime":3663.63,"body":"Thanks. Bye. Bye. My thanks"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3663.63,"endTime":3667.17,"body":"again to Steve for coming on the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3663.63,"endTime":3667.17,"body":"show. Check out the new album"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3667.17,"endTime":3670.8,"body":"from womb to tomb. Listen to all"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3667.17,"endTime":3670.8,"body":"of Lillian X his entire"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3670.8,"endTime":3674.82,"body":"catalogue on streaming, or buy a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3670.8,"endTime":3674.82,"body":"physical copy if you can, or buy"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3674.82,"endTime":3678.09,"body":"some other merch. Go see a show."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3674.82,"endTime":3678.09,"body":"Or at least follow the band on"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3678.09,"endTime":3681.54,"body":"social media support these bands"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3678.09,"endTime":3681.54,"body":"or they won't be around for much"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3681.54,"endTime":3684.24,"body":"longer. So if you want to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3681.54,"endTime":3684.24,"body":"support my little show,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3684.24,"endTime":3687.81,"body":"listening to other episodes,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3684.24,"endTime":3687.81,"body":"sharing episodes, following on"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3687.81,"endTime":3690.99,"body":"social media, all those things"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3687.81,"endTime":3690.99,"body":"help or give us a rating a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3690.99,"endTime":3694.89,"body":"review on Apple podcasts or"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3690.99,"endTime":3694.89,"body":"Spotify. That helps to thank you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3694.89,"endTime":3697.65,"body":"so much for your support. Now,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3694.89,"endTime":3697.65,"body":"go out there have a great day"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3697.65,"endTime":3698.73,"body":"and shoot for the moon."}]}