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So if people have a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3543.27,"endTime":3546.24,"body":"few extra dollars after they buy"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3546.24,"endTime":3549.15,"body":"the new kings X record or they"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3546.24,"endTime":3549.15,"body":"preorder it, then they can throw"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3549.15,"endTime":3550.89,"body":"a few dollars that way to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3549.15,"endTime":3550.89,"body":"donate."},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3551.01,"endTime":3554.34,"body":"Okay, yeah, and"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3551.01,"endTime":3554.34,"body":"take a shout out to Compassion"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3554.34,"endTime":3558.21,"body":"International. 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They teach them a lot of"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3569.76,"endTime":3574.2,"body":"cool things and you get letters"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3574.2,"endTime":3578.07,"body":"from them and pictures. It's"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3574.2,"endTime":3578.07,"body":"really cool. So give a shout out"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3578.07,"endTime":3582.57,"body":"to Compassion International."},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3578.07,"endTime":3582.57,"body":"Okay. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3582.66,"endTime":3584.82,"body":"Thanks so much,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3582.66,"endTime":3584.82,"body":"Doug. This is fun. I love your"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3584.82,"endTime":3586.56,"body":"opinions. I love the music. So"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3588.87,"endTime":3590.7,"body":"I have opinions. I"},{"speaker":"dUg Pinnick","startTime":3588.87,"endTime":3590.7,"body":"love"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3590.7,"endTime":3593.85,"body":"it. Fascinating."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3590.7,"endTime":3593.85,"body":"Thanks, Doug. I'll see you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3593.85,"endTime":3599.43,"body":"later. Thank you again to Doug"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3593.85,"endTime":3599.43,"body":"Pinnick. So open and real with"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3599.43,"endTime":3601.98,"body":"me, I think But that makes for a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3599.43,"endTime":3601.98,"body":"great interview. I really"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3601.98,"endTime":3604.47,"body":"enjoyed it and whether you agree"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3601.98,"endTime":3604.47,"body":"or disagree with some of his"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3604.47,"endTime":3607.8,"body":"viewpoints, it's interesting to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3604.47,"endTime":3607.8,"body":"hear because he has real, real"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3607.8,"endTime":3611.25,"body":"experience. Over seven years on"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3607.8,"endTime":3611.25,"body":"this earth. I found it"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3611.25,"endTime":3614.43,"body":"fascinating. And one thing we"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3611.25,"endTime":3614.43,"body":"can all probably agree on is"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3614.43,"endTime":3617.28,"body":"that kings X is a great rock"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3614.43,"endTime":3617.28,"body":"band and they are putting out"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3617.28,"endTime":3620.04,"body":"great music. And I think if"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3617.28,"endTime":3620.04,"body":"you're a fan, you're going to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3620.04,"endTime":3623.25,"body":"love this new record. So check"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3620.04,"endTime":3623.25,"body":"it out, see the band, buy the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3623.25,"endTime":3626.58,"body":"merch, support them. And if you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3623.25,"endTime":3626.58,"body":"enjoyed this episode, well let"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3626.58,"endTime":3628.98,"body":"me know in the comments, and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3626.58,"endTime":3628.98,"body":"make sure to subscribe so that"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3628.98,"endTime":3631.29,"body":"you catch all the future"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3628.98,"endTime":3631.29,"body":"episodes. Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3631.29,"endTime":3634.47,"body":"listening. And remember, shoot"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":3631.29,"endTime":3634.47,"body":"for the moon."}]}