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So Yeah, true. bison.com"},{"speaker":"Tripp Eisen","startTime":4747.23,"endTime":4749.3,"body":"and then the podcasts for that."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4749.6,"endTime":4751.94,"body":"Okay. Well, thanks"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4749.6,"endTime":4751.94,"body":"so much trip. I'll talk to you"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4751.94,"endTime":4757.76,"body":"soon. Thank you. All right, bye."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4751.94,"endTime":4757.76,"body":"Well, very habit, trip eyes and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4758.09,"endTime":4761.12,"body":"open up about a bunch of things,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4758.09,"endTime":4761.12,"body":"including his legal troubles,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4761.3,"endTime":4764.36,"body":"his current issues with his ex"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4761.3,"endTime":4764.36,"body":"bandmates, other musical"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4764.36,"endTime":4767.63,"body":"projects and more. And I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4764.36,"endTime":4767.63,"body":"understand there are some people"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4767.63,"endTime":4772.55,"body":"who will never able to get past"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4767.63,"endTime":4772.55,"body":"what he did and that's okay. You"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4772.55,"endTime":4775.73,"body":"have the freedom to follow his"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4772.55,"endTime":4775.73,"body":"new products projects and go see"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4775.73,"endTime":4779.24,"body":"him or if you never want to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4775.73,"endTime":4779.24,"body":"support him or anything he does"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4779.27,"endTime":4782.51,"body":"you have that right to, but"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4779.27,"endTime":4782.51,"body":"hopefully you at least listened"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4782.51,"endTime":4785.24,"body":"to this episode and heard what"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4782.51,"endTime":4785.24,"body":"he had to say before he made"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4785.24,"endTime":4788.72,"body":"that decision. If you enjoyed"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4785.24,"endTime":4788.72,"body":"this interview, check out some"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4788.72,"endTime":4790.88,"body":"of the other ones I have and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4788.72,"endTime":4790.88,"body":"make sure to subscribe for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4790.88,"endTime":4794.12,"body":"future episodes. If you hated"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4790.88,"endTime":4794.12,"body":"this interview. You should still"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4794.12,"endTime":4796.7,"body":"check out some of the other"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4794.12,"endTime":4796.7,"body":"episodes and subscribe because"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4796.7,"endTime":4799.25,"body":"you might like some of the other"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4796.7,"endTime":4799.25,"body":"ones. Thank you for listening"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4799.28,"endTime":4802.43,"body":"and all your stuff. work, have a"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4799.28,"endTime":4802.43,"body":"great day and shoot for the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4802.43,"endTime":4802.73,"body":"moon."}]}