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It's giving them"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4023.33,"endTime":4026.15,"body":"good advice, you know, because"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4026.15,"endTime":4031.52,"body":"good advice is at a certain"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4026.15,"endTime":4031.52,"body":"point in your career. It's"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4031.52,"endTime":4033.65,"body":"something that I didn't have"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4031.52,"endTime":4033.65,"body":"back then, you know, I mean, we"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4033.65,"endTime":4037.22,"body":"didn't really have that, you"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4033.65,"endTime":4037.22,"body":"know, because we just didn't so"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4037.22,"endTime":4039.86,"body":"we made mistakes. We you know,"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4037.22,"endTime":4039.86,"body":"we might we may have six, that's"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4039.86,"endTime":4040.94,"body":"all. Oh,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4041.18,"endTime":4043.04,"body":"what's the advice"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4041.18,"endTime":4043.04,"body":"that you wish that you had when"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4043.04,"endTime":4044.12,"body":"you were younger that you didn't"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4045.65,"endTime":4052.04,"body":"get a lawyer? Don't"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4045.65,"endTime":4052.04,"body":"sign any stupid. Don't sign any"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4052.04,"endTime":4055.64,"body":"stupid pieces of paper that you"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4052.04,"endTime":4055.64,"body":"don't know exactly what that"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4055.64,"endTime":4060.65,"body":"shit says, bro. Period. Be as"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4055.64,"endTime":4060.65,"body":"humble as you possibly can be."},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4061.4,"endTime":4064.49,"body":"And be be be a nice human being."},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4061.4,"endTime":4064.49,"body":"That's it."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4065.9,"endTime":4067.67,"body":"I love it. That's"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4065.9,"endTime":4067.67,"body":"perfect. All right. Well, thanks"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4067.67,"endTime":4069.65,"body":"so much for doing this. Rick,"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4067.67,"endTime":4069.65,"body":"anything else you want to"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4069.65,"endTime":4070.1,"body":"promote?"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4071.48,"endTime":4073.07,"body":"Want to say thank"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4071.48,"endTime":4073.07,"body":"you for having me on your show,"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4073.07,"endTime":4075.56,"body":"bro. And I appreciate it. I love"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4073.07,"endTime":4075.56,"body":"all the people out there. I love"},{"speaker":"Rick Hunolt","startTime":4075.56,"endTime":4075.68,"body":"you."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4076.07,"endTime":4077.9,"body":"Okay, thanks, Rick."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4076.07,"endTime":4077.9,"body":"I'll talk to you later."},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":4078.26,"endTime":4079.55,"body":"Thank you, Chuck. Okay,"},{"speaker":"Unknown","startTime":4078.26,"endTime":4079.55,"body":"bye"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4079.55,"endTime":4081.92,"body":"bye. Well, that was"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4079.55,"endTime":4081.92,"body":"a really fun interview with"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4081.92,"endTime":4085.25,"body":"Rick. My thanks again to him for"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4081.92,"endTime":4085.25,"body":"taking the time to come on the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4085.25,"endTime":4088.49,"body":"show. Check out his new band die"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4085.25,"endTime":4088.49,"body":"humane and make sure to follow"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4088.49,"endTime":4092.18,"body":"his band and Rick on social"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4088.49,"endTime":4092.18,"body":"media. And as always, your"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4092.18,"endTime":4096.29,"body":"likes, comments and shares. Help"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4092.18,"endTime":4096.29,"body":"us both out on social media and"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4096.29,"endTime":4101.0,"body":"YouTube for this interview or"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4096.29,"endTime":4101.0,"body":"any videos done by his band. If"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4101.0,"endTime":4104.06,"body":"you really want to go all out"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4101.0,"endTime":4104.06,"body":"and help me out with the show."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4104.06,"endTime":4107.06,"body":"You can write a review of the"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4104.06,"endTime":4107.06,"body":"podcast on Apple podcasts or"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4107.06,"endTime":4109.76,"body":"wherever you listen. I"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4107.06,"endTime":4109.76,"body":"appreciate all your support."},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4109.97,"endTime":4112.19,"body":"Have a great rest of your day"},{"speaker":"Chuck Shute","startTime":4109.97,"endTime":4112.19,"body":"and shoot for the moon."}]}